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Dunc n Dave
11-27-2011, 10:46 PM
Just heard David Aldridge on NBATV say:

"They're (the players cut by the amnesty clause) not just gonna be able to go to the Heat or the Lakers. There's gonna be a bidding system for them, where they can be claimed off of waivers, basically, by the teams that are under the tax."

Kinda throws a wrench in the Laker's plan to add Baron davis AND Rashard Lewis, doesn't it? Spin that shit, Laker fans!:downspin:

pass1st
11-27-2011, 10:47 PM
What fan would want Baron Davis and Rashard Lewis on their team?

JayTheClown
11-27-2011, 10:49 PM
Just heard David Aldridge on NBATV say:

"They're (the players cut by the amnesty clause) not just gonna be able to go to the Heat or the Lakers. There's gonna be a bidding system for them, where they can be claimed off of waivers, basically, by the teams that are under the tax."

Kinda throws a wrench in the Laker's plan to add Baron davis AND Rashard Lewis, doesn't it? Spin that shit, Laker fans!:downspin:

:lmao Pieces of shit

Dunc n Dave
11-27-2011, 10:49 PM
What fan would want Baron Davis and Rashard Lewis on their team?

Since the fans don't get a say in who a team signs, I fail to see your point.

DPG21920
11-27-2011, 10:55 PM
All things being equal I would take Shard over RJ. But props to Bruno for calling that before anything was even said. That makes things very interesting. If the bidding system is like Bruno said, then what happens is when a player is amnestied and on waivers, a team will bid on how much they will pay of the players salary and the highest bidder will get him.

So for example, if the Spurs use it on RJ and the winning bid is 40% of his salary, the Spurs would get all of his salary off their cap and owe him 18.3M over 3 years and the other team would pay 12.2M for 3 years which equals the rest of his contract.

Dunc n Dave
11-27-2011, 11:01 PM
All things being equal I would take Shard over RJ. But props to Bruno for calling that before anything was even said. That makes things very interesting. If the bidding system is like Bruno said, then what happens is when a player is amnestied and on waivers, a team will bid on how much they will pay of the players salary and the highest bidder will get him.

So for example, if the Spurs use it on RJ and the winning bid is 40% of his salary, the Spurs would get all of his salary off their cap and owe him 18.3M over 3 years and the other team would pay 12.2M for 3 years which equals the rest of his contract.

Hey DGP,were the Spurs OVER the tax threshold last year, or were they able to get barely under it? Just wondering if they will be able to bid on amnestied players at all.

Koolaid_Man
11-27-2011, 11:04 PM
Just heard David Aldridge on NBATV say:

"They're (the players cut by the amnesty clause) not just gonna be able to go to the Heat or the Lakers. There's gonna be a bidding system for them, where they can be claimed off of waivers, basically, by the teams that are under the tax."

Kinda throws a wrench in the Laker's plan to add Baron davis AND Rashard Lewis, doesn't it? Spin that shit, Laker fans!:downspin:

all that does is allows the players the option to choose between a slightly higher salary or going to play where they want to...You're getting excited and misunderstanding what it means...:lmao they are not forcing the cut players to play where they don't want to only allowing other teams to throw more money at them if they wish...ultimately they'll choose LA the preferred destination. You guys are intellectual dumbfucks....geez...:lmao

Dunc n Dave
11-27-2011, 11:17 PM
all that does is allows the players the option to choose between a slightly higher salary or going to play where they want to...You're getting excited and misunderstanding what it means...:lmao they are not forcing the cut players to play where they don't want to only allowing other teams to throw more money at them if they wish...ultimately they'll choose LA the preferred destination. You guys are intellectual dumbfucks....geez...:lmao

so did DA tell you this? If not, I call bullshit...

DPG21920
11-27-2011, 11:18 PM
Hey DGP,were the Spurs OVER the tax threshold last year, or were they able to get barely under it? Just wondering if they will be able to bid on amnestied players at all.

The Spurs were not LT payers last year, which is why many argued the RJ contract was smart. Without restructuring that, they would have paid tax last year. However, from my understanding of the new CBA so far, since this year the Spurs are over the LT, they would not be able to bid (*Keep in mind I have not read anything official on this bidding system yet and the rules on that).

If they use it on RJ, at that point they would likely be able to bid (likely up to an amount that gets them to no more than 4M over the LT line if it's in line with the MLE rules and such)

DPG21920
11-27-2011, 11:19 PM
all that does is allows the players the option to choose between a slightly higher salary or going to play where they want to...You're getting excited and misunderstanding what it means...:lmao they are not forcing the cut players to play where they don't want to only allowing other teams to throw more money at them if they wish...ultimately they'll choose LA the preferred destination. You guys are intellectual dumbfucks....geez...:lmao

Don't think that is accurate at all. The only way I see that happening (meaning the players get to choose) is if the clear waivers without a bid. If it's a decent player, they will likely get claimed. It's how waivers work.

Dunc n Dave
11-27-2011, 11:20 PM
you don't get to choose where you play when you are claimed off waivers, welcher. Who's the intellectual dumbfuck now?

ElNono
11-27-2011, 11:23 PM
I want BDiddy in LA... Fish/BDiddy against the quick guards in the league is an absolute mismatch...

Giuseppe
11-27-2011, 11:36 PM
you don't get to choose where you play when you are claimed off waivers, welcher. Who's the intellectual dumbfuck now?

Dunc, easin' on down into the do-do.

You look pisser.

Giuseppe
11-28-2011, 12:06 AM
Just heard David Aldridge on NBATV say:

"They're (the players cut by the amnesty clause) not just gonna be able to go to the Heat or the Lakers. There's gonna be a bidding system for them, where they can be claimed off of waivers, basically, by the teams that are under the tax."

Kinda throws a wrench in the Laker's plan to add Baron davis AND Rashard Lewis, doesn't it? Spin that shit, Laker fans!:downspin:

& yet another hint that DoK was grossly mistaken when he said the players would rule the owners in the new CBA.

Just shows ta go ya.

DPG21920
11-28-2011, 12:11 AM
In order for LA to get any amnesty player, they will have to clear waivers completely. Baron may very well be one of those guys.

DPG21920
11-28-2011, 12:12 AM
Hey Cull, remember when you panicked about The Cliff and I told you that you were wrong and you were? I do.

Dunc n Dave
11-28-2011, 12:13 AM
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2011/11/nba-cba-official-nba-agreement-document.html

14. Amnesty

Each team permitted to waive 1 player prior to any season of the CBA (only for contracts in place at the inception of the CBA) and have 100% of the player’s salary removed from team salary for Cap and Tax purposes.

Salary of amnestied players included for purposes of calculating players’ agreed-upon share of BRI.

A modified waiver process will be utilized for players waived pursuant to the Amnesty rule, under which teams with Room under the Cap can submit competing offers to assume some but not all of the player’s remaining contract. If a player’s contract is claimed in this manner, the remaining portion of the player’s salary will continue to be paid by the team that waived him.

Giuseppe
11-28-2011, 12:14 AM
Hey Cull, remember when you panicked about The Cliff and I told you that you were wrong and you were? I do.

& then you came by today and panicked on my behalf.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Dunc n Dave
11-28-2011, 12:17 AM
Also no more trading a player, seeing him get waived by new team, and then returning to old team as free agent (ala Brent Barry to SA or McDyess to Pistons).


http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2011/11/nba-cba-official-nba-agreement-document.html
Waiting period for trading team to re-sign traded player who is waived by recipient team is extended until the earlier of (i) one year from the date of the trade, or (ii) the July 1 following the last season of player’s contract.

DPG21920
11-28-2011, 12:17 AM
& then you came by today and panicked on my behalf.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

No.

Leetonidas
11-28-2011, 12:19 AM
lol Koolaids not understanding the concept of clearing waivers

DPG21920
11-28-2011, 12:21 AM
Or Cully understanding the concept of anything basketball related.

Giuseppe
11-28-2011, 12:22 AM
Or Cully understanding the concept of anything basketball related.

Come ta Pappy.

DPG21920
11-28-2011, 12:29 AM
Are you going to stick around posting when B-dog is gone and mock his friendship or will you be a man of principle and leave with him since he was done a great deal of dirt?

Giuseppe
11-28-2011, 12:47 AM
^

- "Promises, promises."

- Ernie "The Cat" Ladd

DUNCANownsKOBE
11-28-2011, 12:51 AM
- "We are here to hand over to you the power in order to avoid bloodshed."

- General Duong Van Mihn, April 1975, Saigon, South Vietnam

Giuseppe
11-28-2011, 12:52 AM
- "We are here to hand over to you the power in order to avoid bloodshed."

- General Duong Van Mihn, April 1975, Saigon, South Vietnam

tee, hee.

nevetslc
11-28-2011, 12:54 AM
Don't the Lakers still have that 5 mill trade exception from the Sasha trade?

Giuseppe
11-28-2011, 12:59 AM
^That's the 5 that trumps the shit bag's 4.

tee, hee.

pass1st
11-28-2011, 01:04 AM
Since the fans don't get a say in who a team signs, I fail to see your point.

It's not a point, it's a question. What real fan would want either of those two, let alone both?

Nathan89
11-28-2011, 01:10 AM
Lakers= F:lolcked

TDMVPDPOY
11-28-2011, 01:23 AM
lol this only benefits dallas if teams under cap can bid

the only person on there roster atm is dirk i think....shit cubans is going to rebuild with amnesty players

Giuseppe
11-28-2011, 01:26 AM
Lakers= F:lolcked

But, DoK guaranteed it wouldn't happen that way.

tee, hee.

fevertrees
11-28-2011, 02:26 AM
"hatas gonna hate but we aint going anywhere"

Koolaid_Man
11-28-2011, 08:19 AM
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2011/11/nba-cba-official-nba-agreement-document.html

14. Amnesty

Each team permitted to waive 1 player prior to any season of the CBA (only for contracts in place at the inception of the CBA) and have 100% of the player’s salary removed from team salary for Cap and Tax purposes.

Salary of amnestied players included for purposes of calculating players’ agreed-upon share of BRI.

A modified waiver process will be utilized for players waived pursuant to the Amnesty rule, under which teams with Room under the Cap can submit competing offers to assume some but not all of the player’s remaining contract. If a player’s contract is claimed in this manner, the remaining portion of the player’s salary will continue to be paid by the team that waived him.

I know you hurting over the Spurs touch lucketh but that's just how it is...:lol listen up carefully Dunkie / Davie...:lol if a player wants to control the team they go to, then all they need to do is accept a reduced buy-out or retire (forfeit the remainder of their salary). In most cases they will agree to a reduced buy-out; no good player is going to allow himself to be forced to play where he doesn't want to and no smart owner will sign a player that says he doesn't want to play for them. It would be a cancerous situation.. It would be nothing but more money down the drain and yet again another indictment on the owners bad business decisions...You guys don't get it...if a team wants to keep players away from LA by signing them then that's on them but don't expect Baron to play for the SPurs just because they put in a 1 million dollar bid for him. You guys don't quite understand how this works. :lol

All of these rules designed to try and hold to the Lakers back will only backfire in the end. Players will get to the final destination which is home to LA :lol

DMC
11-28-2011, 09:06 AM
What kind of a shitty player do you have to be for a team to be anxious to pay you millions just to get rid of you?

DMC
11-28-2011, 09:07 AM
It's not a point, it's a question. What real fan would want either of those two, let alone both?
Your fellow turds have multiple threads about it, and you have to ask?

cheguevara
11-28-2011, 10:22 AM
What kind of a shitty player do you have to be for a team to be anxious to pay you millions just to get rid of you?

http://dimemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/jefferson_06_01-476x360.jpg

dbestpro
11-28-2011, 10:49 AM
An expected windfall for NBA contending teams in search of affordable talent could wind up short-circuited by the league's soon-to-be-approved collective-bargaining agreement. The Sun Sentinel confirmed Sunday that instead of players being released under the league's "amnesty" provision going directly to the open market, a bidding system has been put in place for teams operating below the league's salary cap to add such players at a deep discount. "That's what the clause is in there for," a party familiar with the impending process Sunday told the Sun Sentinel. "It's so the Lakers can't go in and scoop up all the players." South Florida Sun-Sentinel

cheguevara
11-28-2011, 11:31 AM
Lakers should exercise this on bag of shit Kobe and his shitty contract tbh.

NRHector
11-28-2011, 11:45 AM
so did DA tell you this? If not, I call bullshit...

everything he post is bullshit

Nathan89
11-28-2011, 12:03 PM
I wonder who Miami is going to go after.
B. Davis would be a significant upgrade for them.
Not so sure I wouldn't amnesty Joel Anthony or mike miller to clear up some more spending.

DJ Mbenga
11-28-2011, 12:25 PM
there arent many teams under the cap. another thing that might play into this is if you bid sure the salary can be cheap but it has to be for the life of the remaining contract. so if you want Roy it wouldnt be a 1 yr test it would be 4 years.

Giuseppe
11-28-2011, 01:08 PM
bag of shit

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

DMC
11-28-2011, 03:58 PM
I'm a sound board.

I sound bored.

Dunc n Dave
11-29-2011, 12:15 AM
there arent many teams under the cap. another thing that might play into this is if you bid sure the salary can be cheap but it has to be for the life of the remaining contract. so if you want Roy it wouldnt be a 1 yr test it would be 4 years.

What team wouldn't take Roy for 4 years at $1-2 million a year? That's a steal for a scorer like him, even if his knees will never be the same, the guy can still score.

I can see teams like Denver loading up their roster with amnesty players. With nearly $30 million is cap space, they can fill out their roster with sveral talented guys. If it really is only teams under the CAP, rahter than under the TAX, there won't be a lot of competition for those guys.

Dunc n Dave
11-29-2011, 12:31 AM
Looking over the salary numbers for teams this season, I stand corrected.... there will be PLENTY of competition for the amnestied players. Didn't realize there were so many teams under the cap...


Teams with Cap Space this Year: (cap space if all Free agents are renounced)
Charlotte Bobcats: $8million
Cavs: $4 million
Nuggets: $28 million
Pistons: $10 million
Warriors: $14 million
Rockets: $12 million
Pacers: $23 million
Clippers: $12 million
Grizzlies: $5 million
Bucks $8 million
T-Wolves: $14 million
Nets: $17 million
Hornets: $5 million
Thunder: $7 million
Sixers: $4 million
Kings: $30 million
Raptors: $11 million
Jazz: $4 million
Wizards: $17 million

Pacers, Nuggets, and Kings could get a king's ransom from this amnesty crop...

pass1st
11-29-2011, 01:29 AM
Kings have a lot of potential for make a run if their FO plays it right. Good players, low payroll.

Dunc n Dave
11-29-2011, 01:34 AM
Kings have a lot of potential for make a run if their FO plays it right. Good players, low payroll.

It's possible two amnestied players could end up in L.A. after all.....

...playing for the Clippers, that is....

Although they've "been there, done that" with B.Davis, they might want a guy like Rashard Lewis or Arenas to go alongside Gordon, Blake, and D'Andre Jordan

Arenas
Gordon
R.Lewis
B.Griffin
D.Jordan/Kaman

Pretty solid team, not a contender, but a threat to make the playoffs...