View Full Version : Did anyone hear that PJ flew back to SA
Kori Ellis
06-16-2005, 01:04 PM
because his wife is very sick?
Apparently this was reported on KSAT. I hope she's okay; she just had a baby last week or so.
Kori Ellis
06-16-2005, 01:24 PM
Unfortunately it is true that he flew back to SA. :( I hope she's okay.
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 01:25 PM
oh man that sucks.
sending you positive vibes, Mrs. PJ.
easjer
06-16-2005, 01:26 PM
Oh geez. That doesn't sound great. I'll say prayers for her tonight. Maybe she's just exhausted with the new baby?
On that line, what happens if Amy Duncan goes into labor before this series is done? Anyone know?
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 01:27 PM
Whatever Tim wants to do, is ok with me. Wife and child come first.
Jimcs50
06-16-2005, 01:29 PM
How old is his wife anyway, since he is 57, it seems odd to be having kids at this age, Larry Brown and Tony Randle, not withstanding.
:)
GrandeDavid
06-16-2005, 01:29 PM
^Word up!
I hope PJ's wife gets better, whatever happened.
easjer
06-16-2005, 01:29 PM
That's my feeling too. But I didn't know if they had some sort of contingency plan or anything. I just don't think I want to be around SA if it happens that he goes to be with her before a big game.
Jimcs50
06-16-2005, 01:30 PM
Spurs have won w/o TD, they can do it again.
Rasho would have 30-20 game.
mrcoon29
06-16-2005, 01:31 PM
I hope it's not too serious with PJ's wife or child. Good thoughts going their way.
You mean there is a chance that Amy could deliver soon?? How far along is she??
SpursWoman
06-16-2005, 01:33 PM
I hope it's not serious.... :(
You mean there is a chance that Amy could deliver soon?? How far along is she??
I think I heard her due date is MONDAY. :wow :wow
Hopefully, like with any good first child, she'll be LATE. That's why we need to wrap this series up by Sunday. :fro :baby
At her age, I would guess that it may be her gall bladder. Soon after my wife delivered, she had a massive attack (Thought she was having a heart attack) and was rushed to the ER. I got the word on my cell as I was leaving Sinton and drove the next 2-1/2 hours with all sorts of stuff running around in my brain. The doctor said it is fairly common for pregnancy hormones to cause gall stones to form in women over 30.
mrcoon29
06-16-2005, 01:47 PM
I think I heard her due date is MONDAY. :wow :wow
Hopefully, like with any good first child, she'll be LATE. That's why we need to wrap this series up by Sunday. :fro :baby
eeeKkk!! Well, since it's her first let's hope for the old adage that they always come late. :p
1369, That is absolutely true. Gallbladder problems are abundant with pregnant women. So are deep vein thrombosis. :( Again, sending good thoughts to both PJ wife & Duncan's!!
GrandeDavid
06-16-2005, 01:59 PM
EXACTLY, Spurswoman. Now there's even more incentive for Tim to dominate and try to close this out in five.
Shelly
06-16-2005, 02:11 PM
I hope it's not serious.... :(
I think I heard her due date is MONDAY. :wow :wow
Hopefully, like with any good first child, she'll be LATE. That's why we need to wrap this series up by Sunday. :fro :baby
I dunno, SW. Both my kids were within one day of their due date!
Jimcs50
06-16-2005, 02:15 PM
I dunno, SW. Both my kids were within one day of their due date!
That is because you are anal Shelly, you do not tolerate being off schedule.
:)
T Park
06-16-2005, 02:16 PM
Shes already had the kid.
I garauntee there will be one moron that will post
"Were fucked, Pop has total control, this game is a loss"
Vashner
06-16-2005, 02:16 PM
Get well soon to his wife.
bigzak25
06-16-2005, 02:17 PM
man, prayers go out to PJ and his wifey and family... :(
I hope she is ok. Best wishes PJ and family.
Slomo
06-16-2005, 02:20 PM
Best wishes to Mrs. PJ, PJ and PJ Jr.!
I hope it turns out to be a false alarm.
I dunno, SW. Both my kids were within one day of their due date!
All of mine were early.
Gosh, I didn't know she was so close to delivering. TIM, you need to WIN tonight.
Jimcs50
06-16-2005, 02:21 PM
PJ is being interviewed on Dan Patrick right now.
Jimcs50
06-16-2005, 02:31 PM
He did not comment of Spre telling KG that they should not hire him in Minn.
Sprewell is still an asshole, I see.
Jimcs50
06-16-2005, 02:31 PM
Why are they not talking about his wife???
Jimcs50
06-16-2005, 02:32 PM
He said Manu is not 100%, but should play.
Jimcs50
06-16-2005, 02:33 PM
He said Manu is always hurt because of his style of play, so it is nothing new. :)
Jimcs50
06-16-2005, 02:34 PM
He said Manu is so competitive that he is better in the 4th Q when the game in on the line, and that he is just so special.
He said that he was surprised that Jackson went back to LA. He sees no problem with him and Kobe being together though.
ducks
06-16-2005, 02:49 PM
tape delay
Summers
06-16-2005, 02:52 PM
I dunno, SW. Both my kids were within one day of their due date!
I'm not listening! La-la-la-la
I can't hear you!! La-la-la-la!
But seriously, I hope Mrs. C is okay. Can't help thinking as a woman who's gone through PPD, I hope he didn't leave her alone! I understand his needing to leave town, but I hope her mom or someone came and stayed with her because I could not handle being left alone with the baby after I had him.
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 02:59 PM
i dont see why duncan would skip a finals game for the birth of his daughter, unless his wife is sick or has complications, i know he'd want to be there, but i dont think he'd want to let the team down and hopefully his wife would understand
desflood
06-16-2005, 03:01 PM
i dont see why duncan would skip a finals game for the birth of his daughter, unless his wife is sick or has complications, i know he'd want to be there, but i dont think he'd want to let the team down and hopefully his wife would understand
God, I hope you never have kids. And if you do, hopefully they'll never find out that they're not as important as basketball.
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 03:02 PM
God, I hope you never have kids. And if you do, hopefully they'll never find out that they're not as important as basketball.
no shit.
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 03:05 PM
ok your almightness
im being honest
1. the chance of her going into labor the night of a game is slim to none
2. duncan owes it to his teamates, most of whom are like family and a city of a million+
desflood
06-16-2005, 03:06 PM
Duncan owes his wife, who is giving him a child. Like family and family are not the same.
And if she is due any time now, the odds are actually pretty good.
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 03:07 PM
i dont see why duncan would skip a finals game for the birth of his daughter, unless his wife is sick or has complications, i know he'd want to be there, but i dont think he'd want to let the team down and hopefully his wife would understand
By saying this...you are wanting Tim to choose his team over his family.
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 03:09 PM
he's not choosing anything, i wouldnt be mad if he missed the game, id understand but i would EXPECT him to play
his wife hopefully would understand and in the future he'll tell his daughter he was working, winning a fucking championship
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 03:11 PM
He is choosing to be with his wife and child. You would expect him to choose a game over that?
T Park
06-16-2005, 03:12 PM
Mookie your a complete moron.
If his child was being born, dont know what this has to do with PJ,
If he missed the game, I wouldn't think anything of it.
I wouldn't EXPECT him to be there.
He doesnt owe anything to THIS City, nor the team.
Family > Basketball
That simple.
Is Mookie the same moron that ripped up Glenn Robinson for not being at game 4 because his mother died???
desflood
06-16-2005, 03:13 PM
he's not choosing anything, i wouldnt be mad if he missed the game, id understand but i would EXPECT him to play
his wife hopefully would understand and in the future he'll tell his daughter he was working, winning a fucking championship
"Sorry I wasn't there when you were born, sweetie, but Daddy was playing basketball."
See how that sounds?
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 03:15 PM
a game no, game 4 of the finals,yes, which he's not guaranteed to ever play in again
i expect duncan to make the decision to rather watch his daughter be born later on tape than to leave a his TEAM hanging and all the fans hanging im not being an asshole i understand family, but how great would it be to fly back later that night after winning a game or possibly the championship and then see your daughter, talk about the greatest day of your life
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 03:17 PM
daddy was working bringing joy to millions and making a fatassfucking pay check so that you and your grandchildren never haver to work a day in their lives
desflood
06-16-2005, 03:17 PM
You obviously don't understand family at all.
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 03:17 PM
dude...if you expect Tim Duncan to miss the birth of his first child for a basketball game...even the finals....you do not understand family. What you are saying is that an NBA Finals game is more important than the birth of your first child.
T Park
06-16-2005, 03:19 PM
This guy should be banned just for this.
Guru of Nothing
06-16-2005, 03:20 PM
I'm down with Mookie on this one.
If there are medical complications, that's one thing; otherwise, the show must go on.
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 03:23 PM
no glenn robinson could do what he wants, that was a death too, not a birth
ok yall are right im an orphan and ive been alone all my life
im sure some people see where i'm coming from
do any of yall remember your dad being at your birth?
he does owe this city and he does owe the team, i wouldnt scoff the guy if he missed the game, shit sorry he only gets $120,000,000 compensation
i EXPECT duncan to play and fly home after the game, god does he have to be there to catch the baby?
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 03:23 PM
I'm down with Mookie on this one.
If there are medical complications, that's one thing; otherwise, the show must go on.
so then you also believe a game is more important than the birth of one's child.
desflood
06-16-2005, 03:24 PM
Having family is not the same as appreciating them.
spurschick
06-16-2005, 03:24 PM
Why is there a debate over something that hasn't happened or may not happen at all? As far as Tim's baby goes, why not cross that bridge when we get to it? As for PJ, hopefully it's nothing too serious and that she will recover soon.
WayDowntownBang
06-16-2005, 03:25 PM
Wow. TWO people that put a game before your family. I think the rest of them have it covered, but I'm glad to see the majority see the forest through the trees. I actually didnt realize that Amy Duncan's pregnancy was ending so soon, and didn't even think about this possibility. As a Piston fan, I want Tim to be there through the end. To win a championship, you have to beat a team at it's best. On the other hand, I'm sure as much as a Title means to Duncan, a child means infinity more. Congrats to them.
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 03:25 PM
he does owe this city and he does owe the team
What does he owe this city? And the members of the team would be the first to tell him to go be with his wife.
Guru of Nothing
06-16-2005, 03:25 PM
I don't think the child will know the difference.
WayDowntownBang
06-16-2005, 03:26 PM
I don't think the child will know the difference.
Amy will.
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 03:27 PM
ok i hope it doesnt happen but all yall who are going off like sean hannity rant
what happens if duncan DID decide to play, would you scoff him as much im im getting scoffed? he'd then "CHOOSE" basketball "over" family?
picnroll
06-16-2005, 03:28 PM
Even if Duncan played what are the chances his mind would be on the game. Zero. Duncan's responsibility is to be with his wife. Just pray it isn't during an elimination game if she goes into labor.
ducks
06-16-2005, 03:28 PM
sa is not paying duncan
the spurs are
desflood
06-16-2005, 03:30 PM
ok i hope it doesnt happen but all yall who are going off like sean hannity rant
what happens if duncan DID decide to play, would you scoff him as much im im getting scoffed? he'd then "CHOOSE" basketball "over" family?
Yes, Duncan would lose status in my eyes if he chose to play basketball over watching his child be born.
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 03:31 PM
If his wife was cool with it, then I would be too. If his wife wanted him there and he chose not to be, I would think that was uncool.
T Park
06-16-2005, 03:32 PM
ok i hope it doesnt happen but all yall who are going off like sean hannity rant
what happens if duncan DID decide to play, would you scoff him as much im im getting scoffed? he'd then "CHOOSE" basketball "over" family?
First off, STFU with the stupid Sean Hannity dig, just because your a flamin wacko lefty has nothing to do with this.
And to answer your dumbass question.
If He chose the game over his child and his wife???
Yeah, hed lose quite a bit in my eyes.
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 03:32 PM
ducks the spurs get their money from the city of san antonio
SpursWoman
06-16-2005, 03:33 PM
Yes, Duncan would lose status in my eyes if he chose to play basketball over watching his child be born.
What if Amy wanted him to go play? Would that still make him a prick if he did?
nkdlunch
06-16-2005, 03:33 PM
This is the finals. Duncan would play. Get over it.
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 03:34 PM
t park why are you so enraged? nothing personal man
i didnt say anything political... and my original post, if you read it, was very understanding
i just think duncan is the kind of guy who want to play
spurschick
06-16-2005, 03:35 PM
Oy! They obviously didn't get out a calendar to plan the pregnancy around the playoffs, so I'm sure they've now planned for anything. Shit happens. I really don't know why we're talking about this when nothing has happened yet. This thread is about PJ and his wife and that's where our thoughts should be.
T Park
06-16-2005, 03:35 PM
ducks the spurs get their money from the city of san antonio
they get it from the PEOPLE, not the city.
Whats your point.
Once again, he doesn't owe shit to the people of San Antonio.
Its a fuckin game, not life.
This is the finals. Duncan would play. Get over it
Link?
Summers
06-16-2005, 03:35 PM
hopefully his wife would understand
I can almost guarantee you she will not. Have you ever seen a woman in labor? :lol
It's just one of those things a man should be there for. I suppose if Amy says, "Really, sweetie, I'll be fine; I've got the best doctor in SA, my mom's here, just get home when you can..." then that's his decision. But it's not very likely, and I for one would think it extremely odd if he chose to play instead.
desflood
06-16-2005, 03:36 PM
What if Amy wanted him to go play? Would that still make him a prick if he did?
I wouldn't call him that. But I would definitely think he had made the wrong decision. I can't imagine that she would feel a game is more important than the birth. She might say he should play, but I'd be willing to bet she'd be lying to make him happy (as women do for their men).
T Park
06-16-2005, 03:37 PM
t park why are you so enraged? nothing personal man
because I hate fuckin people expect other human beings to put GAMES
YES GAMES
ahead of life.
Thats why.
Yes you brought politics into it by doing your stupid ass jab at Sean Hannity.
So STFU and support Duncan when he does miss a game for his wife.
FromWayDowntown
06-16-2005, 03:38 PM
I just can't imagine that anyone would have a problem with Tim missing a basketball game -- any basketball game -- for the birth of his first child. Tim doesn't owe a damned thing to the city of San Antonio; he has amply paid most of us back by bringing such unprecedented joy over a basketball team. If you demand more than what Timmy has given, it's time to re-examine your priorities.
Timmy missed a "crucial" game in the 2002 playoffs when his father passed away, and everyone understood. Popovich told Tim then to do what was best for Tim and his family. Timmy came back for Game 5, but nobody on the Spurs roster or in the Spurs organization would have batted an eye if he had chosen to stay in St. Croix. He deserves the same consideration now, should the birth happen to coincide with a game.
It's a child, people; basketball is only a freakin' game!
T Park
06-16-2005, 03:38 PM
I wouldn't call him that. But I would definitely think he had made the wrong decision. I can't imagine that she would feel a game is more important than the birth. She might say he should play, but I'd be willing to bet she'd be lying to make him happy (as women do for their men).
Exactly right.
T Park
06-16-2005, 03:39 PM
just can't imagine that anyone would have a problem with Tim missing a basketball game -- any basketball game -- for the birth of his first child. Tim doesn't owe a damned thing to the city of San Antonio; he has amply paid most of us back by bringing such unprecedented joy over a basketball team. If you demand more than what Timmy has given, it's time to re-examine your priorities.
Timmy missed a "crucial" game in the 2002 playoffs when his father passed away, and everyone understood. Popovich told Tim then to do what was best for Tim and his family. Timmy came back for Game 5, but nobody on the Spurs roster or in the Spurs organization would have batted an eye if he had chosen to stay in St. Croix. He deserves the same consideration now, should the birth happen to coincide with a game.
It's a child, people; basketball is only a freakin' game
AWESOME POST FWD
AWESOME!!!!
THANK YOU!!!
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 03:39 PM
What if Amy wanted him to go play? Would that still make him a prick if he did?
If his wife was cool with it, then I would be too. If his wife wanted him there and he chose not to be, I would think that was uncool
ducks
06-16-2005, 03:40 PM
I heard rumors that duncan played worse this year then last year
was duncan's mind was on his kid and wife
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 03:41 PM
yes tpark from the residents not the government, way to further explain what i meant
anyway its cool but dam this is pretty heated
do not talk about the following things at the dinner table
religion
politics
if tim duncan should play in the finals if his wife goes into labor and just fly right home after the game on a private jet. or just skip the game
Shelly
06-16-2005, 03:41 PM
I'm sure they've discussed all this already. And whatever they've decided, I'm cool with it.
Honestly, my husband being there (which he was) was the least of my worries. I didn't want him comforting me, I wanted a fricking epidural. STAT!
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 03:42 PM
yes tpark from the residents not the government, way to further explain what i meant
I really don't think the residents of SA would think badly of him. I am one and I wouldn't.
SpursWoman
06-16-2005, 03:42 PM
I wouldn't call him that. But I would definitely think he had made the wrong decision. I can't imagine that she would feel a game is more important than the birth. She might say he should play, but I'd be willing to bet she'd be lying to make him happy (as women do for their men).
Or, she might also be of the opinion that what he does for a living is giving her and her children a life most people can only dream about...and for him & his career, it's a pretty big deal. Who knows? I'm sure they have it all worked out. :)
Definitely some bad family planning. :lol
...and I hadn't ready your post yet, Mikey. :)
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 03:42 PM
Honestly, my husband being there (which he was) was the least of my worries. I didn't want him comforting me, I wanted a ficking epidural STAT!
"honey breathe!"
"you shut up! you did this to me!"
:lmao :lmao
FromWayDowntown
06-16-2005, 03:43 PM
I'm sure they discussed before hand. And whatever they decided, I'm cool with it.
Can't go wrong with accepting a family decision.
By the way, best wishes to P.J. and his wife. Hope that all is well.
Guru of Nothing
06-16-2005, 03:43 PM
because I hate fuckin people expect other human beings to put GAMES
YES GAMES
ahead of life.
Thats why.
Yes you brought politics into it by doing your stupid ass jab at Sean Hannity.
So STFU and support Duncan when he does miss a game for his wife.
Y'all crack me up. I'll bet a few of you have devoted more emotional thought to the "should he stay or should he go" of Tim Duncan's personal life than you have to all the pregnant wives whose husbands are getting shot at in Iraq.
[/no more political commentary]
It's not on Amy. TIM will choose to experience the birth of his child over his job - his coworkers have to pick up the slack. It happens thousands of times all over the city.
If Tim is able to bring it through these finals, knowing what the impending birth of a child means - and then the exhausting aftermath, then I will be suprised. He is bound to be distracted and torn right now - forget about the labor; he's talking to his wife, she feels like crap (it's summer in SA - and she's probably + 40 - 50 lbs - and it HIS fault!), he wants to be there for her, and because of this 2-3-2 BS he's away for an entire week!
Major, major, major distraction. And don't talk to me about professionalism, or focussing on the job at hand - this is his family, his love, his first born we are talking about - hell, most of us are so obsessed with the Spurs right now we aren't doing OUR jobs - we're doing this!
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 03:45 PM
Y'all crack me up. I'll bet a few of you have devoted more emotional thought to the "should he stay or should he go" of Tim Duncan's personal life than you have to all the pregnant wives whose husbands are getting shot at in Iraq.
in my case...you would be wrong.
desflood
06-16-2005, 03:47 PM
Ditto
ducks
06-16-2005, 03:49 PM
PEOPLE SIGN UP TO JOIN THE MILITARY THEY SHOULD HAVE thought about that when they did it. They might be over seas when if they got their wives or girlfriends pregnat. Everyone knows what makes kidds....
nkdlunch
06-16-2005, 03:50 PM
Damn those NBA players for having sex 9 months prior to the finals.
Shelly
06-16-2005, 03:50 PM
PEOPLE SIGN UP TO JOIN THE MILITARY THEY SHOULD HAVE that about being over seas when if they got their wives or girlfriends pregnat. Everyone knows what makes kidds....
oh, my!
Shelly
06-16-2005, 03:51 PM
Damn those NBA players for having sex 9 months prior to the finals.
The condem broke....
FromWayDowntown
06-16-2005, 03:53 PM
Everyone knows what makes kidds....
Kidds? Is this another thread about the Spurs decisions in 2003?
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 03:56 PM
tpark i didnt say anything bad about sean hannity, what the hell do you care anyway
i know basketball is a game, because im smart enough to get on the internet and type responses and spell some words correctly
its just obviously very important to many people and duncan knows that. he also knows that he can fly home after the game and be here in a few hours at his wifes side
we'll see, youd think i was talking about roe vs wade or something, dam
bdubya
06-16-2005, 04:08 PM
$.02 - If it were, say, Ben or CBill facing the same decision, I'd expect them to put family ahead of the game, ahead of the team, and way ahead of my own petty wants as a fan.
That said, if TD actually has to make that choice, I'd like to see the game postponed (yah, like the NBA would let that happen :rolleyes ) ; if the Pistons are going to repeat, I'd want it to be against a full-strength Spurs team, and if they're not capable of taking the series with Duncan on the floor, then they shouldn't.
And health, healing and best wishes to Mrs. C.
Oh, and GO PISTONS!
ducks
06-16-2005, 04:08 PM
Kidds? Is this another thread about the Spurs decisions in 2003?
NO WHAT MAKES BABIES :lol
Shelly
06-16-2005, 04:09 PM
Yeah, mookie...but if there happen to be some complications with the birth (and you never know), I'm sure he'd never forgive himself for not being there.
T Park
06-16-2005, 04:09 PM
know basketball is a game, because im smart enough to get on the internet and type responses and spell some words correctly
lol.
That sentance is Ducksesque.
pseudofan
06-16-2005, 04:17 PM
alrighty then.... :rolleyes
back to our original programming.... :blah
Anyone know what's up with the C family yet???
WayDowntownBang
06-16-2005, 04:28 PM
lol.
That sentance is Ducksesque.
I can't help but point out the irony.
You're poking fun at his spelling, yet you spelled "sentence" wrong.
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
Kori Ellis
06-16-2005, 04:32 PM
alrighty then.... :rolleyes
back to our original programming.... :blah
Anyone know what's up with the C family yet???
I didn't hear anything else about Mrs. Carlesimo. And she's not that old (someone said in regards to PJ being 57 that she must be old).
I don't know why this thread turned into a debate whether it's okay for Tim to take off when Amy gives birth. Of course it's okay. If the Spurs tell their players "take as much time as you need" regarding family issues, then they can do just that. There's not much debate.
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 04:35 PM
of course its ok
i just thought tim would choose to play
Kori Ellis
06-16-2005, 04:36 PM
of course its ok
i just thought tim would choose to play
Well maybe when you are married and having the birth of your first child you will think differently. It's just a personal decision, nothing for anyone to judge.
SpursWoman
06-16-2005, 04:36 PM
I can't help but point out the irony.
You're poking fun at his spelling, yet you spelled "sentence" wrong.
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
If you're planning on sticking around, you'll have to get used to that. :cooldevil
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 04:43 PM
yes yes thanks kori
i wouldnt understand because im not married and have no kids, dam how i long to get married and have kids and i cant wait for the opportunity to skip the finals and go see my wife. also the $120,000,000 contract too
i have no family, poor poor pitiful me i dont understand what it means to love and have children
thanks guys youve made me realize me erronous thinking
Shelly
06-16-2005, 04:45 PM
No, the point is that people who aren't a parent or aren't about to become a parent have no clue what it's like to be one or about to be one. And when you are or about to be one, you see things a hell of a lot differently.
Kori Ellis
06-16-2005, 04:47 PM
yes yes thanks kori
i wouldnt understand because im not married and have no kids, dam how i long to get married and have kids and i cant wait for the opportunity to skip the finals and go see my wife. also the $120,000,000 contract too
i have no family, poor poor pitiful me i dont understand what it means to love and have children
thanks guys youve made me realize me erronous thinking
Look dumbass, I didn't say you don't understand.
I only said that you might change your mind once you are married and ready to have a kid. And you might not.
So get off your sarcastic high horse and drop the prick attitude.
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 04:48 PM
^^ok ok
thats what i meant people who have procreated are better than me, i get it, my life will not be complete until i do so
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 04:49 PM
I'm on the high horse??????
Kori Ellis
06-16-2005, 04:52 PM
I'm on the high horse??????
Yeah you are putting words in people's mouths. I only said maybe you'll think differently (which means maybe you will, maybe you won't) and that it was a personal decision. It didn't say anything about you not be worthy or not understanding being you don't have kids yet. So why don't you just simmer down and check yourself.
easjer
06-16-2005, 04:52 PM
Dude. Calm the hell down. She gave you an out to take - you should take it gracefully, because you look like a total ass.
It has nothing to do with being better or contracts or anything. It has to do with family and the importance of family to individuals.
My friend just had her baby 10 weeks early and nearly died on the table due to complications. Her husband would never have forgiven himself if she passed away and he wasn't there. Childbirth is routine, but it is also still dangerous and all the best hospitals can't guarantee a routine birth.
For those reasons I would never begrudge a player who decided to be with his wife at that time, even if it's game 7.
You may disagree. Fine. But you don't need to be an idiot. If something were to happen to her or the baby, you think a ring or the 'love' of a city would comfort him?
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 04:53 PM
thats what i meant people who have procreated are better than me, i get it, my life will not be complete until i do so
Some people just shouldn't breed...you are one of them.
spurs_fan_in_exile
06-16-2005, 04:54 PM
Best wishes to PJ's wife and the little one. No good thoughts for PJ, because he is actively seeking employment with someone than the Spurs (j/k).
As far as Tim goes, he's played in the finals twice, he's never had a kid before. Simply from that I wouldn't blame him for not playing should the kid decide to make an arrival at an inoportune time.
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 05:00 PM
i'm calm
the thing is people in here are acting like having a child is some great skill that you posses and must be smart and mature enough to do so
ask some little 14 year old thug and his 12 year old gf what it involved
i respect parents and i have the most respect for tim duncan, thats why i think he'll choose to play, fine we disagree, but dont make it seem like im scoffing the families or amy duncan
bigzak25
06-16-2005, 05:05 PM
if her water breaks during a finals game, she better go straight to the sbc center and she can have the baby on the sidelines if need be...with the best medical staff and equipment available of course.... :smokin
FromWayDowntown
06-16-2005, 05:08 PM
i respect parents and i have the most respect for tim duncan, thats why i think he'll choose to play, fine we disagree, but dont make it seem like im scoffing the families or amy duncan
I think the point is that you don't seem to acknowledge that it would be reasonable for Tim to choose to be with his wife. You seem absolutely focused on this notion that Tim somehow owes the Spurs and the City of San Antonio his participation in a game, even when his wife is giving birth. I think, mookie, that's where the problem is. I don't think anyone is trying to suggest that you're somehow a bad dude, so don't take it that way.
P.S. -- I can't think of an employer that wouldn't allow an employee an off-day or two where child birth is involved. At bottom, the Spurs are Tim's employer.
spurs_fan_in_exile
06-16-2005, 05:10 PM
if her water breaks during a finals game, she better go straight to the sbc center and she can have the baby on the sidelines if need be...with the best medical staff and equipment available of course.... :smokin
That would be such a wonderful TV moment. And then after the cord's cut the Spurs could call a timeout so Tim can go over and lift the child up before the SBC center like in the opening to "Roots"
"Behold, the only thing in this world greater than yourself!"
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 05:19 PM
fromwaydowntown you need to go back and read some of my first posts in this thread
and yes duncan owes the city of san antonio, his fans and his team just like the city and his fans and team owe him
duncan has a great life, he's left alone, we embrace him for what he is he's got a contract that i know that none of us can comprehend, he's played here 8 years and been voted an allstar everytime possible, he understands that, he's an intelectual, he also understands people wont be mad because he's got the ultimate excuse for missing a game, he knows it would be a hard choice to make
but me in my spursfanforlife opinion would expect him to play in the game and fly home afterwards, thats what id do, but then again im a childless, nofamily having liberal
Kori Ellis
06-16-2005, 05:22 PM
but then again im a childless, nofamily having liberal
Do yourself a favor and shutup.
FromWayDowntown
06-16-2005, 05:24 PM
:bang
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 05:26 PM
i'm being honest
dont take it personal
Kori Ellis
06-16-2005, 05:27 PM
No you are being a fuckin' idiot and putting words in people's mouths. So I'm tired of you.
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 05:31 PM
but me in my spursfanforlife opinion
im a spursfanforlife and guarantee that has been longer than yours. You need to relax junior.
FromWayDowntown
06-16-2005, 05:32 PM
im a spursfanforlife and guarantee that has been longer than yours. You need to relax junior.
Amen to that.
adrienne
06-16-2005, 05:35 PM
The birth of Tim Duncan's posterity would make a lovely half time show. I think they should arrange it.
Seriously though, it shouldn't even be a question. I'm sure winning a championship is one of the greatest things an NBA player can ever experience....but it doesn't last forever. In 50 years the memory of seeing his first child entering the world, something that he helped create, will be worth much more to him then a ring.
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 05:35 PM
sorry kori i didnt quote anyone and only said your name once
and i'll turn 23 this summer, which is not exactly red arubach but i went to the hemisphere and i can tell you about terry cummings game, dam i'm not alvarez
JustEnough
06-16-2005, 05:35 PM
If the Spurs win in five..... does that mean Tim's baby will be named Larry?
Kori Ellis
06-16-2005, 05:43 PM
sorry kori i didnt quote anyone and only said your name once
and i'll turn 23 this summer, which is not exactly red arubach but i went to the hemisphere and i can tell you about terry cummings game, dam i'm not alvarez
You addressed me with this post ...
yes yes thanks kori
i wouldnt understand because im not married and have no kids, dam how i long to get married and have kids and i cant wait for the opportunity to skip the finals and go see my wife. also the $120,000,000 contract too
i have no family, poor poor pitiful me i dont understand what it means to love and have children
thanks guys youve made me realize me erronous thinking
And it's not about how old you are. It's about you bringing in stupid crap to why people are "against you". All I said is that you might change your mind. And went on this weird tirade about how we are saying you can't have an opinion because you are a childless, young liberal. No one is saying you can't have opinion. I only say MAYBE you'll change you mind when you get older and it's no place for anyone to judge. And you just keep going back to your young, liberal, woe is me diatribe. Just shutup. You stated your opinion. People disagree with you. But cut the crap.
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 05:52 PM
t park originally called me "liberal" in this thread
and samikey just called me "junior" on this page
i did not scoff anybody or use foul language against anybody
you told me to shut up because i called myself childless and had a sarcastic woe is me post
i dont understand
i hope mrs c feels better
constantstate
06-16-2005, 05:58 PM
hey this thread better not leak out to detroit fans... they might start throwing babies out on the court tonight if they start losing...
JustEnough
06-16-2005, 06:00 PM
hey might start throwing babies out on the court tonight if they start losing...
Best if eaten with quacamole.
ducks
06-16-2005, 06:07 PM
no celebration sex with his wife for duncan after they win it all
Kori Ellis
06-16-2005, 06:08 PM
t park originally called me "liberal" in this thread
You brought up Hannity and TPark responded. But to TPark I say keep your pseudo political jabs to yourself unless you are in the Political Forum.
and samikey just called me "junior" on this page
Mikey often pulls the young vs old card in these sort of threads. It's not a matter of you being young, it's just a matter of it being a really personal decision that a person who is going through it can make. Many Spurs fans went crazy when Duncan took the game off a couple years back when his dad died. People thought he "owed" it to San Antonio to play then too. Most rational people believe that you owe things to your family before your job and your city. I believe that you owe things to yourself -- whatever decision you make you have to live with.
you told me to shut up because i called myself childless and had a sarcastic woe is me post
Yes.
i dont understand
Sorry.
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 06:11 PM
Mikey often pulls the young vs old card in these sort of threads
My point was that being a "spursfanforlife" is irrelevant in a personal desicion. Our points were the same, just from different angles. I probably could have communicated it better.
T Park
06-16-2005, 06:11 PM
But to TPark I say keep your pseudo political jabs to yourself unless you are in the Political Forum.
Okie Dok.
Kori Ellis
06-16-2005, 06:13 PM
My point was that being a "spursfanforlife" is irrelevant in a personal desicion. Our points were the same, just from different angles. I probably could have communicated it better.
Yeah, calling him "junior" is probably not appropriate if you aren't jabbing at his young age.
Timvp is close to Mookie's age. Do you ever call him "junior"?
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 06:14 PM
i didnt do anything...at all, look it up
LOL
no lowblows
its cool though
its uncanny after all my post- saying that id expect tim to play would hit such a nerve
Kori Ellis
06-16-2005, 06:15 PM
its uncanny after all my post- saying that id expect tim to play would hit such a nerve
Your stupid woe is me post to me hit a nerve. I don't care if you think Tim shouldn't play.
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 06:17 PM
I don't think I have. :) then again, I don't remember calling anyone else that either. Plus he has my respect and in the rare times we have disagreed, I hope I have communicated that.
timvp
06-16-2005, 06:22 PM
This is a weird azz thread. First of all, hopefully Mrs. Carlesimo is okay.
Second of all, the fierce discussion about something that probably won't happen is pretty funny. Plus, in that situation we all know it is the wife's call. Either Amy will tell Tim to go play or she'll say to be by her side. Unless Tim doesn't GAF about what she wants, he'll follow her lead. There have been instances in sports where the players have played the same day their wife gives birth. There have been instances where the players skip a game. And I'm guessing in pretty much each incident, it's been the wife's call.
Now if Duncan misses a Game 7 to be by his wife's side, then I can't promise you I wouldn't be somewhat miffed. Not only could they have induced the labor during an off day somewhere along the line, the couple probably should have known better than to be slamin' on days that would interfere with the Finals. There is like a two week window that Spurs players should be careful. Either Tim and Amy are bad at math or Tim didn't care.
I'm sure people will come in and try to say that I'm off base for saying I'd be upset with Duncan missing a game seven, but Duncan gets $100M to play a game and there is one two week stretch where he can't afford to be missing. A little forward planning never hurt anyone.
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 06:25 PM
the couple probably should have known better than to be slamin' on days that would interfere with the Finals
:lmao :lmao
mrcoon29
06-16-2005, 06:25 PM
^^ I must "yeah that" Timvp's post.
zedman
06-16-2005, 06:32 PM
^^ok ok
thats what i meant people who have procreated are better than me, i get it, my life will not be complete until i do so
OK, now I understand that you are just a kid.
Sometimes all the planning in the world does not work Timvp. We don't know what went on and maybe it was totally unplanned.
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 06:40 PM
heres some words in peoples mouths
timing and understanding...
1. the chance of her going into labor the night of a game is slim to none
the odds are actually pretty good.
You obviously don't understand family at all.
....you do not understand family.
Have you ever seen a woman in labor?
the point is that people who aren't a parent or aren't about to become a parent have no clue what it's like to be one or about to be one.
fromwaydowntown you need to go back and read some of my first posts in this thread
and yes duncan owes the city of san antonio, his fans and his team just like the city and his fans and team owe him
duncan has a great life, he's left alone, we embrace him for what he is he's got a contract that i know that none of us can comprehend, he's played here 8 years and been voted an allstar everytime possible, he understands that, he's an intelectual, he also understands people wont be mad because he's got the ultimate excuse for missing a game, he knows it would be a hard choice to make
but me in my spursfanforlife opinion would expect him to play in the game and fly home afterwards, thats what id do, but then again im a childless, nofamily having liberal
I truly hope that one day you have a beautiful pregnant wife who is about to deliver. When this does happen I sincerely hope you have the balls to admit to yourself that you were wrong. Experiencing the birth of your child is something that you would not want to miss if you had the choice between that and your job....not matter the fame and fortune that comes with this job.
T Park
06-16-2005, 06:43 PM
mookie.
Grow up.
mookie2001
06-16-2005, 06:46 PM
alright i swear to god right here if i ever have the chance to see my wife give birth i will go see her, thats sounds great
unless
a. i have to work and the job pays me >$100,000,000.00
b. i'm playing in the nba finals
Shelly
06-16-2005, 06:46 PM
Sometimes all the planning in the world does not work Timvp. We don't know what went on and maybe it was totally unplanned.
Not only that, but inducing labor does not mean you'll deliver right away. I've known people that were induced that didn't deliver for another 12 to 24 hours and it's not fun.
samikeyp
06-16-2005, 06:47 PM
Not only that, but inducing labor does not mean you'll deliver right away. I've known people that were induced that didn't deliver for another 12 to 24 hours and it's not fun.
Yeah but the closer to delivery...the younger you look! :)
T Park
06-16-2005, 06:48 PM
Agreed.
Shelly
06-16-2005, 06:54 PM
.
Yeah but the closer to delivery...the younger you look! :)
:lol
6 and 3 hours respectively, thank God!
mrcoon29
06-16-2005, 07:28 PM
yep, ksat just said PJ never left Detroit.
:lol
6 and 3 hours respectively, thank God!
Aw you suck, all mine were loooooong.
Kori Ellis
06-16-2005, 07:39 PM
yep, ksat just said PJ never left Detroit.
Well that's good news because he was supposedly on his way to the airport earlier today. That must mean it's not that serious. Good news.
alright i swear to god right here if i ever have the chance to see my wife give birth i will go see her, thats sounds great
unless
a. i have to work and the job pays me >$100,000,000.00
b. i'm playing in the nba finals
Nope, I want you to come back and admit you were wrong. :)
That is good news!!!! :spin
desflood
06-16-2005, 08:30 PM
Good, hopefully everything is well.
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