Texas A&M fires Mike Sherman

[Sisk]

Should be interesting to see who we get.

Sumlin from U of H is targeted
Kirby Smart from Bama

Those two I've heard the most about.

[JayTheClown]

Wow, when A&M first got Sherman I thought A&M finally hit the jackpot. I mean how many programs manage to get a pretty good NFL coach to head their football team. It kinda sucks they made this move after Leach went off the market. I cant think of any big names out there that equals Sherman's name when A&M first got him. June Jones? Kevin Sumlin? Mike Singletary? Maybe, just maybe they could convince a Jack Del Rio to come to College Station.

Or maybe they go young and get an upcoming assistant like a Major Applewhite? (I know will never happen).:lol

[johngateswhiteley]

..been following this on the internet the last few days. course, you never know what the outcome will be, but he is gone. i like it, but the uncertainty of our new coach is a little unsettling.

My pick of possible gets is Chris Peterson & Jim Tressel. I do not like the idea of Sumlin and am unsold on smart.. not that my opinion matters, of course.

[JayTheClown]

..been following this on the internet the last few days. course, you never know what the outcome will be, but he is gone. i like it, but the uncertainty of our new coach is a little unsettling.

My pick of possible gets is Chris Peterson & Jim Tressel. I do not like the idea of Sumlin and am unsold on smart.. not that my opinion matters, of course.

I forgot about Chris Peterson. It will be a while before Tressel sees another D1 coaching job (just my opinion, I could be wrong tho).

[johngateswhiteley]

I forgot about Chris Peterson. It will be a while before Tressel sees another D1 coaching job (just my opinion, I could be wrong tho).

I think Peterson would be great, do not know if we could get him. I know Tressel has baggage.. but dude is not a bad guy and, imo, would run a clean program. But, it certainly would not be a popular hire abroad.. though you cannot worry about that.

[ChumpDumper]

OK, tell me if I have the numbers right.

A&M paid Franchione $4 million to not coach football.

Now it will pay Sherman $7-9 million to not coach football.

And it will pay $28 million to not play Big 12 football.

Damn.

[Sisk]

Highly doubt we get Peterson.

If we get Sumlin I'll be so fucking mad. Fuck him.

[Sisk]

OK, tell me if I have the numbers right.

A&M paid Franchione $4 million to not coach football.

Now it will pay Sherman $7-9 million to not coach football.

And it will pay $28 million to not play Big 12 football.

Damn.

We'll pay sherman 3-5 million
Exit fee will be closer to 15 million

[Sisk]

Read that the buyout is 1.8 annually for 3 years. It's not paid up front.

5.4 total

[johngateswhiteley]

OK, tell me if I have the numbers right.

A&M paid Franchione $4 million to not coach football.

Now it will pay Sherman $7-9 million to not coach football.

And it will pay $28 million to not play Big 12 football.

Damn.

while the #'s are not quite that high, still, brings to light what is even more frustrating. A&M has resources, and refuses to put them in proper use..

somebody help us..

[shyne]

I like Sumlin, would be good hire I think

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lmao:lmao:lmao sissy cuck ASU fans butthurt Sumlin would rather go to A&M than their piece of shit school

[Sisk]

:lmao:lmao:lmao sissy cuck ASU fans butthurt Sumlin would rather go to A&M than their piece of shit school

There's a report they're offering $4 million a season :wow

ASU that is.

[johngateswhiteley]

I would not pay Sumlin half that.. jesus, do not let us hire him. I may be wrong, but I just do not think it would be the right hire.

[DesignatedT]

While there are definitely worse options than Sumlin, He is definitely not my top choice and I would never give him 4mil/year.

[ChumpDumper]

We'll pay sherman 3-5 million
Exit fee will be closer to 15 millionCould you give me some links to those numbers?

I saw nothing like them.

Thanks.

[DesignatedT]

Sherman never signed his contract extension. He has 3 years at 1.8 mil/yr left on contract.

Big12 fees could be anywhere from 10-20. R Bowen Loftin himself says he expects it to be around 15. Go find the links yourself.

[Pelicans78]

Stay away from Kirby Smart. He's gonna be shitty just like Muschamp.

[Fpoonsie]

Well, it's a start.

Next, to replace the Ags collective vagina with something resembling testes.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

There's a report they're offering $4 million a season :wow

ASU that is.
lol wow and I thought the a little under $2 Million a season dick rod got was absurd

I understand the Pac-12 has a new TV contract but methinks there's a better way to spend the money than throw it at the first decent coach who's available. For that price ASU has enough of a history to go after a better coach.

[DesignatedT]

Stay away from Kirby Smart. He's gonna be shitty just like Muschamp.

It's certainly possible. They are very similar. Although I would rather take the chance on him than hire Sumlin IMO. High risk, high reward.

Would rather have a proven coach but I just dont see anyone out there. Time to start making calls into unfamiliar places.

[ChumpDumper]

Sherman never signed his contract extension. He has 3 years at 1.8 mil/yr left on contract.

Big12 fees could be anywhere from 10-20. R Bowen Loftin himself says he expects it to be around 15. Go find the links yourself.Should be easy for at least one of you.

I'll wait.

[johngateswhiteley]

Jim Tressel

[Sisk]

Could you give me some links to those numbers?

I saw nothing like them.

Thanks.

no

[johngateswhiteley]

Should be easy for at least one of you.

I'll wait.

listen carefully wanker, this is high stakes and we do not have time for childish behavior.

[DesignatedT]

They should at least call Tressel

[ChumpDumper]

Sherman never signed his contract extension. He has 3 years at 1.8 mil/yr left on contract.

Big12 fees could be anywhere from 10-20. R Bowen Loftin himself says he expects it to be around 15. Go find the links yourself.


no


listen carefully wanker, this is high stakes and we do not have time for childish behavior.OK, I figured you guys were lying to make your school look less stupid.

[johngateswhiteley]

OK, I figured you guys were lying to make your school look less stupid.

less stupid, infers that we are partially stupid which makes no sense. one either is or is not stupid, there cannot be fractions regarding this matter.

[ChumpDumper]

less stupid, infers that we are partially stupid which makes no sense. one either is or is not stupid, there cannot be fractions regarding this matter.Sure there can.

Paying $20 million to coaches to not coach and to not play in the Big 12 is less stupid than paying $40 million to do the same thing.

[johngateswhiteley]

Sure there can.

Paying $20 million to coaches to not coach and to not play in the Big 12 is less stupid than paying $40 million to do the same thing.

as a matter of slang, sure. but in reality, it was simply negotiations.. and smart ones at that. A&M realized they needed to make a move; selling a stock before it hits bottom as something is better than nothing.

Smart.

[Sisk]

less stupid, infers that we are partially stupid which makes no sense. one either is or is not stupid, there cannot be fractions regarding this matter.

Just ignore him. Like a child, if he doesn't get attention, he will quit typing.

[johngateswhiteley]

Just ignore him. Like a child, if he doesn't get attention, he will quit typing.

its fun to make people look foolish sometimes, besides his school does not have a football team. i have alway had a soft spot for the inclusion of others, nobody should be alone.

[ChumpDumper]

as a matter of slang, sure. but in reality, it was simply negotiations.. and smart ones at that. A&M realized they needed to make a move; selling a stock before it hits bottom as something is better than nothing.

Smart.It's not slang. It's stupid to call it slang.


Just ignore him. Like a child, if he doesn't get attention, he will quit typing.Actually, all you had to do was give a link to your numbers.

You rather stupidly refused.

[ChumpDumper]

its fun to make people look foolish sometimes, besides his school does not have a football team. i have alway had a soft spot for the inclusion of others, nobody should be alone.What a stupid thing to say.

[JayTheClown]

If A&M is smart (and thats a big "if") they would hire a defensive minded coach familiar with the SEC. Jack Del Rio has to be at least a wildcard option. He did coach NFL football in SEC country. He is a defensive minded coach.

[Sisk]

If A&M is smart (and thats a big "if") they would hire a defensive minded coach familiar with the SEC. Jack Del Rio has to be at least a wildcard option. He did coach NFL football in SEC country. He is a defensive minded coach.

Kirby Smart

[johngateswhiteley]

If A&M is smart (and thats a big "if") they would hire a defensive minded coach familiar with the SEC. Jack Del Rio has to be at least a wildcard option. He did coach NFL football in SEC country. He is a defensive minded coach.

no idea what to think of Del Rio, though his fire and demeanor are probably positives in the college athletics world.

[DesignatedT]

Hell no to Del Rio.

If we could get Tressell or Petersen than I would def prefer that.

Would rather Smart over Sumlin though.


Charlie Strong is another name being thrown out alot by people. He has had some great defenses most notably at Florida.

[JayTheClown]

Kirby Smart

Yeah, he would fit the profile to I guess. It wouldn't be a big splash like a Del Rio hiring, but it would be a nice choice.

[coyotes_geek]

Good riddance to sherman. I'm kinda surprised they pulled the trigger though. I thought they'd give him one more year. Not complaining though.


If A&M is smart (and thats a big "if") they would hire a defensive minded coach familiar with the SEC. Jack Del Rio has to be at least a wildcard option. He did coach NFL football in SEC country. He is a defensive minded coach.

Agree that Del Rio could be a good college coach, but I the Ags would be better off looking for someone who's got the Texas HS connections. Del Rio has been coaching in SEC territory, but it's been in Florida. Not exactly an area A&M's going to be plucking a bunch of recruits out of...

[shyne]

Gary Patterson would be my # 1

[DesignatedT]

Gary Patterson would be my # 1

Agreed. He knows Texas and recruits very well.

That's the one good thing about Sumlin. He knows Texas and recruits the state very well. He brought Adrian Peterson to OU way back when.

I just feel like we need to make a defensive hire. I think Sumlin is a great coach and would do great at a place like Arizona State though.

[shyne]

I think Sumlin appeals to these recruits y'all have coming in.

[The Reckoning]

:lmao

patterson isnt going anywhere. he has it REAL nice at TCU.

[DesignatedT]

:lmao

patterson isnt going anywhere. he has it REAL nice at TCU.

Ok. Nobody said he was...

[DesignatedT]

I think Sumlin appeals to these recruits y'all have coming in.

He definitely does but A&M needs to change it back to where defense is the main priority going into the SEC.

[coyotes_geek]

Gary Patterson would be my # 1

Pretty much where I'm at too. Longer track record of success.

[shyne]

Naww they just needed to grow some balls. Should have went for it on some fourth downs, played to win instead of not to lose. Sumlin would bring that type of attidude.

Thought y'all said derutyer was a badass on d.

[coyotes_geek]

:lmao

patterson isnt going anywhere. he has it REAL nice at TCU.

He did when TCU was the king of whatever non-AQ conference they were in at the moment. Does he still think that now that he's in a conference with OU & Texas? Not saying he doesn't, but it's possible. Either way, A&M's got to make a run at him to find out what he's thinking.

[DesignatedT]

Thought y'all said derutyer was a badass on d.

That turned out to be Von Miller.

[coyotes_geek]

Thought y'all said derutyer was a badass on d.

Looks to me like we were underestimating how big a badass Von Miller was on d.

[leemajors]

why would you want tressell?

[shyne]

Joe shad saying Sumlin is on top of list

Also Sherman wants 8.8 million a&m saying 5.8

[shyne]

Paul Rhodes would be good too.

[DesignatedT]

1 NC, 3 NC games, 7 BCS bowl games at OSU. 8-1 record against arch rival Michigan.

[DesignatedT]

Sumlin is the easy guess at this point. He is right down the road and has coached here before. It's no surprise people keep listing his name first but nobody knows what Loftin and the regents are thinking.

[TFloss32]

Fedora of Southern Miss is being mentioned. Could be completely inaccurate, but I read he's was born in that area of Texas and went to A&M Consolidated HS. My biggest issue is the money (or lack of it) for buyouts and exit fees and then throwing a first year coach into the SEC fire on top of that. It's like he's being set up for failure.

[DesignatedT]

Fedoras dream job is Texas A&M. He would do anything to land the job. I don't see it happening though unless all other candidates don't work out.

[leemajors]

1 NC, 3 NC games, 7 BCS bowl games at OSU. 8-1 record against arch rival Michigan.

and dirty as fuck. I'm just saying Sherman was a pretty good recruiter and a shitty in-game coach, like Tressell.

[TFloss32]

1 NC, 3 NC games, 7 BCS bowl games at OSU. 8-1 record against arch rival Michigan.

Tressel is dirty. Not a good choice, imo.

[Sisk]

Fedora of Southern Miss is being mentioned. Could be completely inaccurate, but I read he's was born in that area of Texas and went to A&M Consolidated HS. My biggest issue is the money (or lack of it) for buyouts and exit fees and then throwing a first year coach into the SEC fire on top of that. It's like he's being set up for failure.

He's from CS. Don't think he'll be the guy though.

[Sisk]

Tressel is also currently not hire-able according to SI. I'd take him though

[DesignatedT]

Everyone is dirty, esp in the SEC.

Shermans recruiting was average before this season. This was by far his best recruiting year.

[DesignatedT]

I wish we could land Mark Dantonio.

[TFloss32]

Fedoras dream job is Texas A&M. He would do anything to land the job. I don't see it happening though unless all other candidates don't work out.

The Aggies need to avoid overspending on an underwhelming hire. There aren't any "wow" candidates right now but I think Smart and Strong are a good start because they're defensive-minded coaches. Even if A&M takes some hits to their recruiting class, I think it's worth it to take the proper time and not rush into the decision.

[DesignatedT]

I would rather have Smart or Strong over Fedora.

Mine would probably go

Smart
Strong
Sumlin
Fedora

out of those 4 guys.

[ThePop]

Nwachukwu
"Way way wayyyy beyond livid. Furious”
“funny how all these decisions are made without thinking of the players. Funny how things work.”

Ogbuehi
“Everybody in the front office are so fake I swear, come to us smiling all the time … then do this.”

[DesignatedT]

I think it's worth it to take the proper time and not rush into the decision.

I've been saying the same thing. Really need to get this one right.

[DesignatedT]

Of course the players are going to be upset.... They'll get over it.

[johngateswhiteley]

I do not think what went down at Ohio State was that bad, actually. Sure, Tressell lied and tried to cover up a few things to protect the program and players (maybe himself).. but in the grand scheme of things, it was so very trivial. He's not perfect, nobody is, but I do believe he ran a relatively clean program and would do so at A&M.

He is my top choice. I do like the Fedora mention, too.

[Sisk]

Nwachukwu
"Way way wayyyy beyond livid. Furious”
“funny how all these decisions are made without thinking of the players. Funny how things work.”

Ogbuehi
“Everybody in the front office are so fake I swear, come to us smiling all the time … then do this.”

McGee was pissed when Fran got fired.

If they played better, Sherman might not be fired.

Don't care what they say tbh. Make the right hire and it's water under the bridge.

[Fpoonsie]

Nwachukwu
"Way way wayyyy beyond livid. Furious”
“funny how all these decisions are made without thinking of the players. Funny how things work.”

Ogbuehi
“Everybody in the front office are so fake I swear, come to us smiling all the time … then do this.”

Eh. Fuck those guys. Their names are too hard to pronounce/spell anyways...

[DesignatedT]

Eh. Fuck those guys. Their names are too hard to pronounce/spell anyways...

:lol

[PublicOption]

First of all, Tannehill's fiance is damn hot. Secondly, I think Sumlin, or Peterson would be great picks. Sumlin would be great, but if I were Houston I would LOCK this guy down.

[The Reckoning]

He did when TCU was the king of whatever non-AQ conference they were in at the moment. Does he still think that now that he's in a conference with OU & Texas? Not saying he doesn't, but it's possible. Either way, A&M's got to make a run at him to find out what he's thinking.


lol SEC

[The Reckoning]

aggies turning on each other...never thought i'd see the day

:lmao

relish

[Sisk]

aggies turning on each other...never thought i'd see the day

:lmao

relish

Make the right hire and it disappears

[PublicOption]

I think Fedora is also a good fit.

[DMX7]

Sherman, 25-25 in four seasons at A&M, had three years remaining on his contract and the buyout will be about $5.8 million.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/sec-bound-texas-aandm-fires-coach-mike-sherman-after-6-6-regular-season-in-his-fourth-year/2011/12/01/gIQAtXAYIO_story.html

AP thinks it's 5.8 but they may just be reporting what A&M hopes it is.

[Sisk]

Apparently Loftin didn't sign his contract. I don't know. Don't really care to speculate anymore either.

I'm just worried about who they want to replace him.

[DesignatedT]

Every hire looks like a risk at this point. Pretty tough spot they put themselves in.

[Blake]

The timing of this firing is extremely odd.

[ChumpDumper]

They either have someone ready to go or they have no idea what they are doing.

[DMX7]

They either have someone ready to go or they have no idea what they are doing.

If the past is any indication, then here's a hint: it's the latter.

[Blake]

They either have someone ready to go or they have no idea what they are doing.

I believe the aggies still have a bowl game to play, so my guess is that they have no idea what they are doing.

I can't say I've ever seen such a dysfunctional administration from top to bottom at a university like this before.

And from a flagship school no less.

Incredibly embarrassing.

[DMX7]

I bet they let the season ticket holders and boosters force their hand and they paniced. There aren't a lot of great options out there right now but angry aggies probably aren't thinking about there.

[DesignatedT]

Pretty sure there man has been Sumlin this whole time. If they ink him up soon it will make sense on the timing. His name was definitely being thrown around a lot and I guess they didn't want to lose him.

Whether that's the right move or not is a totally different question and time will only tell.

The problem is the regent or whoever it is on the inside that keeps spilling secrets to reporters on the side. It really made todays events look bad with all this information leaking out.

[coyotes_geek]

The timing of this firing is extremely odd.

Not really.

[DMX7]

ASU is also trying to get him.

JERRY SANDUSKY is another possible candidate for A&M.

[The Reckoning]

Mcnabb all the way baby!

[Fpoonsie]

ASU is also trying to get him.

JERRY SANDUSKY is another possible candidate for A&M.

Is this, like, what? Tha 7th time you've tried this nonsensical, crickets-inducing joke?

[jag]

Nwachukwu
"Way way wayyyy beyond livid. Furious”
“funny how all these decisions are made without thinking of the players. Funny how things work.”

Ogbuehi
“Everybody in the front office are so fake I swear, come to us smiling all the time … then do this.”

Those underachieving retards are the reason Sherm got fired.

[Blake]

Not really.

Since it's A&M, I guess you have a point.

[coyotes_geek]

Since it's A&M, I guess you have a point.

What's odd about the timing?

[leemajors]

What's odd about the timing?

bowl game left, and if it did leak before he knows that is pretty shitty of them.

[coyotes_geek]

Coaches getting canned before bowl games is pretty routine. If you've already decided you don't want to keep a coach, what do you accomplish by keeping him around to coach a meaningless bowl game?

Agree with you about the leak though. Pretty shitty if they deliberately leaked it before telling him.

[leemajors]

Coaches getting canned before bowl games is pretty routine. If you've already decided you don't want to keep a coach, what do you accomplish by keeping him around to coach a meaningless bowl game?

Agree with you about the leak though. Pretty shitty if they deliberately leaked it before telling him.

true, but i think it is silly every time they fire before the bowl game.

[Blake]

Coaches getting canned before bowl games is pretty routine.

For performance issues?

[coyotes_geek]

For performance issues?

Yep.

[Blake]

Yep.

I think it's uncommon enough for me not to recall any.

[coyotes_geek]

Arizona State.

[coyotes_geek]

Ucla.

[coyotes_geek]

Illinois.

[coyotes_geek]

Ohio State.

[coyotes_geek]

North Carolina.

Edit: Not north carolina.

[coyotes_geek]

http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/coaching_changes.html

[DesignatedT]

Lol.

If the hire is Sumlin (which I'm pretty much expecting) Then I think this wasn't as much of the regents wanting Sherman out but more of them not wanting to miss on Sumlin who they reportedly are very high on.

If that's the case then it all makes more sense although I'm not just sure yet I totally agree with the hire.

[leemajors]

North Carolina.

Edit: Not north carolina.

weren't all those examples scandal fallout coaches?

[coyotes_geek]

Lol.

If the hire is Sumlin (which I'm pretty much expecting) Then I think this wasn't as much of the regents wanting Sherman out but more of them not wanting to miss on Sumlin who they reportedly are very high on.

If that's the case then it all makes more sense although I'm not just sure yet I totally agree with the hire.

Be it for Sumlin or someone else, this is exactly why it makes sense for A&M to can Sherman now instead of waiting for the bowl game. Coaches typically don't like to interview for jobs that aren't open, plus there's a recruiting class that needs to be reaffirmed by February. A&M is much better off not wasting 3-4 weeks of time letting Sherm have some glorious ride off into the sunset moment at whatever gallery furniture-esque bowl game A&M ends up in.

[DesignatedT]

Ucla, Arizona State and Illinois had a scandal?

[DesignatedT]

Be it for Sumlin or someone else, this is exactly why it makes sense for A&M to can Sherman now instead of waiting for the bowl game. Coaches typically don't like to interview for jobs that aren't open, plus there's a recruiting class that needs to be reaffirmed by February. A&M is much better off not wasting 3-4 weeks of time letting Sherm have some glorious ride off into the sunset moment at whatever gallery furniture-esque bowl game A&M ends up in.

Agree

[jag]

Arizona State.


Ucla.


Illinois.



http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/coaching_changes.html


:corn:

[coyotes_geek]

weren't all those examples scandal fallout coaches?

Not that I'm aware of.

[jag]

Sherman's performance this season was poor enough to qualify as a scandal.

[Blake]

Arizona State.

Erickson will be coaching in the bowl game.

[leemajors]

Ucla, Arizona State and Illinois had a scandal?

It's not out of the question when two of those coaches are Neuheisel and Zook. But Zook was probably fired before this I guess.

[Blake]

Ucla.

Will most likely finish 6-7.

...and Rick will still be the coach in the Pac 12 title game.

[Blake]

Ohio State.

are you talking about Cooper 8-9 years ago?

[Blake]

Illinois.

If Illinois accepts an invitation to a bowl, then this will be an oddly timed firing as well, imo.

Since we now have evidence of a second similar situation as A&M, I retract the adjective "extremely" from my original post and just leave it at "odd".

[DesignatedT]

Why does it matter if they coach the bowl game or not? Not like it matters. They were still fired.

and what does Ucla finishing 6-7 have to do with anything.

[coyotes_geek]

Why does it matter if they coach the bowl game or not? Not like it matters. They were still fired.

and what does Ucla finishing 6-7 have to do with anything.

Apparently it matters because blake feels the need to move the goalposts instead of just admitting that he was talking out of his ass.

[DesignatedT]

Definitely a class act. Hope him well in the future that's for sure. Unfortunate that he couldn't get the job done.

[Blake]

Why does it matter if they coach the bowl game or not? Not like it matters. They were still fired.

and what does Ucla finishing 6-7 have to do with anything.

I find it odd to not let a coach be at the bowl game he led his team to.

6-7 means no bowl for ucla, unless I'm mistaken.

[Blake]

Apparently it matters because blake feels the need to move the goalposts instead of just admitting that he was talking out of his ass.

We are talking opinion, not facts.

You don't know what my goal posts are.

[pkbpkb81]

Why does it matter if they coach the bowl game or not? Not like it matters. They were still fired.

and what does Ucla finishing 6-7 have to do with anything.

It matters because if they finish 6-7 they have to get a waiver to play in a bowl and may not get it

[Sisk]

I find it odd to not let a coach be at the bowl game he led his team to.

6-7 means no bowl for ucla, unless I'm mistaken.

You are mistaken. They're getting a bowl.

HTH

[Blake]

You are mistaken. They're getting a bowl.

HTH

lol turns out they are only the 2nd school ever to be allowed to accept a bowl bid at 6-7.

How odd. I'm sure DesignatedT was well aware of this fact.

It's also pretty odd that Rick will be on the sidelines for the Pac12 title game, but not the prospective bowl game, imobaibhticto.

[The Reckoning]

good bye to louisiana state, univerrrsity

so long to purple and yellow!

good luck to dem dear old texasec aggies!

they are the boys that show how to fire!

[DesignatedT]

good bye to louisiana state, univerrrsity

so long to purple and yellow!

good luck to dem dear old texasec aggies!

they are the boys that show how to fire!

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[Sisk]

good bye to louisiana state, univerrrsity

so long to purple and yellow!

Good luck to dem dear old texasec aggies!

They are the boys that show how to fire!

i see what you did there

[The Reckoning]

oh come on get marooned out and fired up! you have an exciting future with a new rival!

heres the real question for a neutral site: astrodome or dragon stadium in nacogdoches?

[coyotes_geek]

You don't know what my goal posts are.

This is true. I could have sworn we were talking about whether or not it was odd that coaches get fired before bowl games, but once I proved that it actually happens several times a season, that didn't seem to be the topic anymore.

[johngateswhiteley]

lol turns out they are only the 2nd school ever to be allowed to accept a bowl bid at 6-7.

How odd. I'm sure DesignatedT was well aware of this fact.

It's also pretty odd that Rick will be on the sidelines for the Pac12 title game, but not the prospective bowl game, imobaibhticto.

wouldn't be surprised, but this is old information. ucla got the waiver a couple days ago..

[Huey Freeman]

Good luck A&M

[JayTheClown]

I have a question, after A&M hires their new coach they will have 3 coaching contracts on the books. A&M also is required to pay the Big 12 exist fee. Can A&M even afford to hire a big name coach?

[Blake]

This is true. I could have sworn we were talking about whether or not it was odd that coaches get fired before bowl games, but once I proved that it actually happens several times a season, that didn't seem to be the topic anymore.

When I think of getting fired before a bowl game, I'm thinking immediately getting dismissed.......which is the case here with Sherm, right?

I'm well aware it's more common that a coach will be told he is being let go after the bowl game.

It's bad form to not let him finish one last game with the kids he recruited, imo.

and it's rather odd, imo.

[DesignatedT]

I have a question, after A&M hires their new coach they will have 3 coaching contracts on the books. A&M also is required to pay the Big 12 exist fee. Can A&M even afford to hire a big name coach?

They will have 2 coaches. Sherman who is being owed 6 million over the next 3 years and the new coach. Fran was payed off 2 years ago. The exit fee is rumored to be about 15mil. Kevin Sumlin will be the new coach (not sure if you consider that a big name or not)

[DesignatedT]

When I think of getting fired before a bowl game, I'm thinking immediately getting dismissed.......which is the case here with Sherm, right?

I'm well aware it's more common that a coach will be told he is being let go after the bowl game.

It's bad form to not let him finish one last game with the kids he recruited, imo.

and it's rather odd, imo.

A&M wants Sumlin. Sumlin to ASU was heating up a lot and A&M didn't want to miss out, hence they made the move. I expect Sumlin to be named coach after his game this weekend.

[Blake]

A&M wants Sumlin. Sumlin to ASU was heating up a lot and A&M didn't want to miss out, hence they made the move. I expect Sumlin to be named coach after his game this weekend.

If they hire Sumlin tomorrow, will he coach A&M in their bowl game?

[DesignatedT]

No, but you're not going to hire a new coach with one currently employed. Plus, it looked like A&M wanted to wait it out for awhile longer to announce the firing/hiring of both but somebody inside leaked the information which created the whole miscommunication/problem. People are very upset with that person.

They also were scared Sumlin would commit to Arizona State. Especially when rumors came out they were going to offer 4mil/yr or something ridiculous.

[JayTheClown]

If they hire Sumlin tomorrow, will he coach A&M in their bowl game?

No way in hell
His first day will be next year

[LakerHater]

Sherman was about to step into a recruit's home.


Mike Sherman Was Fired Over The Phone, In A Recruit's Driveway

[DesignatedT]

That's a little extreme. Sherman said he was almost to Davis' house, not that it makes it any better, but he wasn't walking in the door or sitting in the driveway.

[Blake]

No way in hell
His first day will be next year

I tend to agree

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Yeah I'd count on Sumlin to A&M. ASU doesn't even consider itself on Sumlin's radar anymore.

lol offering someone 4+ million a year and getting rejected by him

[leemajors]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7308074/ex-texas-aggies-coach-mike-sherman-unhappy-firing


He had just pulled into the driveway of a recruit's home Thursday night when athletic director Bill Byrne called to dismiss him. Sherman was disappointed the news leaked to his family and players before he was told.

Classy, I imagine coaches are lining up to be treated so well!

[DesignatedT]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7308074/ex-texas-aggies-coach-mike-sherman-unhappy-firing



Classy, I imagine coaches are lining up to be treated so well!

Once again, it wasn't supposed to go down like that. Someone from inside leaked the information (people are very upset about this and I suspect this person will be punished) Once the information got out to the media, A&M had to make the phone call.

[leemajors]

Does it really matter how it was supposed to go down? It happened that way.

[DesignatedT]

Sure it matters.

It's not like they said " Oh, fuck Mike Sherman, call his ass up and fire him. Do it while he's on the recruiting trail while you're at it".

A&M will take care of the person who leaked information he wasn't supposed to leak and show that it won't be tolerated.

[leemajors]

Sure it matters.

It's not like they said " Oh, fuck Mike Sherman, call his ass up and fire him. Do it while he's on the recruiting trail while you're at it".

A&M will take care of the person who leaked information he wasn't supposed to leak and show that it won't be tolerated.

Sorry, I meant more to Sherman and people outside the University. It's reprehensible.

[shyne]

Fedoras offense looks made for manziel

[DesignatedT]

Not so sure it will be Sumlin anymore. I was convinced he was their man (and I still think it was) but it seems they have decided to slow the process down and hold some interviews.

Rumor is Kevin Sumlin, Charlie Strong and Kirby Smart will all interview within the next few days and Larry Fedora is still a possibility as well. There is also some smoke about Gary Patterson but I doubt that's likely.

UCLA is also very interested in Sumlin so I wouldn't be surprised if he took that job if he feels we are moving in a different direction.

[coyotes_geek]

FWIW....

http://tamu.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=893&CID=1304127

[The Reckoning]

black coach at A&M?

(2012 is coming)

[johngateswhiteley]

i am less than excited.

[Thompson]

black coach at A&M?

(2012 is coming)

Why does that surprise you? Texas might have issues with it (what with its dorm named after a Klan leader and everything), but we obviously don't have a problem with it.

I don't know much about this source, but they're saying it's a done deal. I would have preferred Fedora or Strong, but oh well.

http://houston.culturemap.com/newsdetail/12-07-11-texas-am-lands-its-coach-kevin-sumlin-agrees-in-principle-to-deal-set-to-inform-his-houston-players/

[The Reckoning]

Why does that surprise you? Texas might have issues with it (what with its dorm named after a Klan leader and everything), but we obviously don't have a problem with it.
/ (http://houston.culturemap.com/newsdetail/12-07-11-texas-am-lands-its-coach-kevin-sumlin-agrees-in-principle-to-deal-set-to-inform-his-houston-players/)

lol prairie view a&m

[The Reckoning]

Why does that surprise you? Texas might have issues with it (what with its dorm named after a Klan leader and everything), but we obviously don't have a problem with it.
/ (http://houston.culturemap.com/newsdetail/12-07-11-texas-am-lands-its-coach-kevin-sumlin-agrees-in-principle-to-deal-set-to-inform-his-houston-players/)

lol prairie view a&m

[Thompson]

2010.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/university-texas-poised-re-title-dormitory-named-kkk-leader-article-1.181751

[The Reckoning]

lol still segregated

almost 2012

[Blake]

i am less than excited.

Better hire than Sherman, but I wouldn't be excited about Sumlin either.

[Thompson]

lol still segregated

almost 2012

lol clueless

[johngateswhiteley]

(moving away from the previous topic and back on track..)

What in the world is taking so long? maybe we are not getting Sumlin, and its someone much bigger, dare I say?

[leemajors]

(moving away from the previous topic and back on track..)

What in the world is taking so long? maybe we are not getting Sumlin, and its someone much bigger, dare I say?

Greg Davis?

[Thompson]

(moving away from the previous topic and back on track..)

What in the world is taking so long? maybe we are not getting Sumlin, and its someone much bigger, dare I say?

There were rumors yesterday that Mark Richt from Georgia might be interested since Georgia hasn't extended his contract yet (though he might just be leveraging the prospect to force an extension). I think Petersen may have turned us down.

Quite a few people seem to think Sumlin was already the choice, and the 'search' was merely to provide the appearance that the administration had done its due diligence (though if that was all it was, you think they'd have come out with it by now; dragging it out this long is giving people hope it will be someone else - 5-7 in C-USA last year, plus the loss to USM in Sumlin's most important game does not inspire confidence).

Also, there was a rumor that Byrne wanted Fedora, but the BOR wouldn't approve it. Who knows; I just wish they'd announce someone already.

[johngateswhiteley]

There were rumors yesterday that Mark Richt from Georgia might be interested since Georgia hasn't extended his contract yet (though he might just be leveraging the prospect to force an extension). I think Petersen may have turned us down.

Quite a few people seem to think Sumlin was already the choice, and the 'search' was merely to provide the appearance that the administration had done its due diligence (though if that was all it was, you think they'd have come out with it by now; dragging it out this long is giving people hope it will be someone else - 5-7 in C-USA last year, plus the loss to USM in Sumlin's most important game does not inspire confidence).

Also, there was a rumor that Byrne wanted Fedora, but the BOR wouldn't approve it. Who knows; I just wish they'd announce someone already.

I am aware. Was looking for something more interesting..

[DesignatedT]

Nobody knows shit. They are keeping it so quiet after that Sherman leak that people aren't saying 1 word about anything.

[Thompson]

http://tamu.rivals.com/

They're saying it's Sumlin and will probably be announced tomorrow. Rumor is Richt turned us down.

They're also saying he's firing all assistants (DeRuyter's gone). He wasn't really my first choice (or third or fourth...), but hopefully this works out. I'm interested to see who he brings in at DC (hopefully not the one he had at Houston).

[DesignatedT]

Richt crap is all speculation (no certain truth that he turned us down or even got an offer) Petersen crap was all speculation, as was most other things out there.

Only facts are Sumlin, Fedora, Smart and Calhoun interviewed. Sumlin was ultimately picked. Everything else is a waste of breath talking about.

[The Reckoning]

:lmao

[LakerHater]

Sumlin accepts Texas A&M coaching job




Kevin Sumlin has accepted an offer to become the next head coach at Texas A&M, a source confirmed Saturday to CBS Sports. The 47-year-old Sumlin, a former Aggies offensive coordinator a decade ago, led Houston to a 12-1 record this season. He replaces Mike Sherman, who was fired after coaching the Aggies, ranked preseason No. 8 in the AP poll, to a 6-6 record this year. Sherman was 25-25 in four seasons at A&M and just 15-18 in Big 12 play.


Sumlin, 35-17 in his four seasons at Houston, takes over at A&M as the Aggies are making the jump into a much deeper conference in the SEC. It is a A&M proud program with top facilities and great resources, but has only finished ranked one time in the past dozen years.


Having worked under Bob Stoops, R.C. Slocum, Joe Tiller, among others, Sumlin has long been pegged as "a rising star" in the business. Staffers who have worked with him gush about what a great motivator he is, saying that he is "a player's coach" yet a real discipline guy at the same time. The Birmingham, Ala. native is also regarded as a great closer with recruits and their parents, according to colleagues.


Sumlin's name had come up in connection to other vacancies at UCLA, ASU and Illinois this year, but from the moment Sherman was fired on December 1, it appeared likely College Station would be the place he ended up. Sumlin did wonders there in his first time on staff. He took over the Aggies offensive coordinator role three games into the 2002 season and the team went from averaging 16 points per game to 33 points per game. They even upset No. 1 Oklahoma, 30-26 using a back-up freshman quarterback (Reggie McNeal). After two seasons at A&M, Sumlin moved on to OU before eventually getting hired to take over at Houston in December of 2007.


At UH, Sumlin built on what Art Briles had done. He gave an unheralded Texas Tech assistant Dana Holgorsen the chance to call plays. That proved to be a shrewd move. The Cougars turned into one of the country's most prolific offenses. After Holgorsen moved on, the UH attack continued to pile up points as Sumlin picked Kliff Kingsbury to run the offense. This year, the Cougars averaged 51 points per game and 599 yards of total offense, both are No. 1 in the nation. Houston made it up to No. 6 in the BCS rankings before being upset by Southern Miss last Saturday in the Conference USA title game. They will face Penn State in the TicketCity Bowl in Dallas on Jan. 2. Sumlin will not coach UH in the bowl game.

[The Reckoning]

It is a A&M proud program with top facilities and great resources, but has only finished ranked one time in the past dozen years.


ouch

[shyne]

ouch

didnt know they were that bad :lol

[spurs1990]

Butch Davis would have looked good in college station.

[Blake]

So Sumlin will be bringing the Leach offense to A&M and the SEC?

That should be fun to watch.

[The Reckoning]

RIP wrecking crew

[The Reckoning]

texags already breaking down...seems like alot of negative posts are being deleted by mods and theres even new team mottos theyre throwing out such as "we tried" lol and nicknaming sumlin "sumwins"...pulling for 7-5 program expectations

[DesignatedT]

So Sumlin will be bringing the Leach offense to A&M and the SEC?

That should be fun to watch.

He wont. He will adjust to what he has like he's always done. Be interesting to see who he hires as OC. His offense should be closer to what Oklahoma runs. It won't be an air raid offense though.

[Blake]

He wont. He will adjust to what he has like he's always done. Be interesting to see who he hires as OC. His offense should be closer to what Oklahoma runs. It won't be an air raid offense though.

If that's true, then it's even more of a mediocre hire than I thought.

[DesignatedT]

If that's true, then it's even more of a mediocre hire than I thought.

Think what you want. We'll see what he can do.

[johngateswhiteley]

I am obviously less than thrilled.. but what can you do, except hope for the best.

[Blake]

Think what you want. We'll see what he can do.

I think you're nuts if you think Sumlin is title material.

[DesignatedT]

I think you're nuts if you think Sumlin is title material.

I have to see how he fills out his staff before I judge the hire too much. Haven't even heard him speak yet.

I know he can recruit and I don't see that being a problem whatsoever, pretty much up to who he hires as OC and DC. I have mixed feelings about keeping DeRuyter.

[DMX7]

He didn't even win a conference title at Houston in C-USA. He'll be just as good as Sherman would have been in the next few years AT BEST.

[johngateswhiteley]

i might feel bad for cowboys fan.. but any compassion quickly dissipates suffering through what an Aggie fan must.

[DesignatedT]

I feel for those who are fans of both.

[coyotes_geek]

I have mixed feelings about keeping DeRuyter.

Looks like DeRuyter is going to get Fresno St's HC gig.

[DesignatedT]

Good for him. Hopefully we can make a big DC hire like Mike Stoops or Randy Shannon.

[johngateswhiteley]

Good for him. Hopefully we can make a big DC hire like Mike Stoops or Randy Shannon.

..thats what its going to take.

[Bill_Brasky]

:lol Sumlin getting run off will probably coincide with Kubiak's firing in Houston. Aggy hires Kubiak in 2-3 years.

[Blake]

OK, tell me if I have the numbers right.

A&M paid Franchione $4 million to not coach football.

Now it will pay Sherman $7-9 million to not coach football.

And it will pay $28 million to not play Big 12 football.

Damn.

Lol