*Rogue's help needed* China says that any threat to pakistan is a threat to them

[mavs>spurs]

somebody get rogue in here to translate

http://www.junshijia.com/article/201111/83165_3.html

after recently coming out and saying that they would defend iran even if it meant a ww3. wtf is going on here?

http://thenewworldreporter.com/2011/11/28/china-to-protect-iran-even-with-a-third-world-war/

[4>0rings]

America will drop kick the fuck outta both of those countries. China would not do anything, it's all saber rattling.

[Halberto]

This is Obama's fault

[mavs>spurs]

Russia is threatening to block out supply routes into afghanistan as well as military intervention if something isn't agreed upon about our missile defense shield plans

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/24/russia-targets-us-missile-shield

this could get ugly...the whole asian continent is uniting against us.

[mavs>spurs]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27964

Russia could deliver death blow to Nato, say analysts

ISLAMABAD: With the Russian threat to cut land routes for supplies to NATO troops in Afghanistan, the Afghan battleground may turn into a cold death trap for NATO, defence analysts believe. They say that Pakistan should utilise the opportunity for a peaceful and prosperous Pakistan by pulling it out of the American war.

Russia has threatened to cut off NATO supply routes to Afghanistan if the alliance doesn’t compromise on its missile defence plans. “If NATO doesn’t give a serious response, we have to address matters in relations in other areas,” Russian news services reported. Russia’s cooperation on Afghanistan may be an area for review, the news services reported.

Pakistan has already cut NATO supply routes after the Mohmand Agency attack by NATO troops that killed twenty-six Pakistani soldiers. Lt General (retd) Hameed Gul, while talking to The News, said that Russia would utilise every option to take revenge on the Americans and the time has come for the Russians to do this. He said that Russia wants to join hands with Pakistan and Pakistan should re-consider its policy towards Russia. “Americans and NATO troops have been strangled in Afghanistan and the time has come for Pakistan to avail itself of the opportunity that it missed on 9/11 to regain respect and sovereignty”, Gul said.

He mentioned that Americans will have to leave Afghanistan and will ask for concessions and Pakistan should negotiate with them on their exit. If Russia cuts its supply routes then the route will be from Georgia to Baku and then to Azerbaijan, which means NATO will never get the supplies, said Gul.

“Now NATO troops will have to exit Vietnam-style, and that too by using Pakistan’s airspace because Iran will never let the USA use its airspace”, the retired General said. He mentioned that the war against terror that was started with our own people will come to an end at once and there will be peace in no time once the Americans leave Afghanistan. He said that Indian interests in Afghanistan were growing but India will get nothing from Afghanistan.

Maria Sultan, defence analyst, while talking to this correspondent said that if the Russians also cut the supply line of NATO then it will turn out to be a cold death for NATO troops. “They will literally be strangled in Afghanistan with 90,000 troops, and as they admit that they have reserves for three months, which actually means they have reserves for two months, then NATO will have to airlift the troops and during the airlift only 15 to 20 percent can get out alive out of the 90,000 troops”, Maria said.

She mentioned that in Afghanistan everything comes from outside and the insurgency this year has been very high as 700 [NATO] causalities have been reported. Therefore, after the Russian decision, Afghanistan will turn into a reverse Kargil for NATO. “They will have weapons but no bullets to fire; and if Pakistan shuts the air corridors to NATO then it would be a cold death for them and America will have to renegotiate with Pakistan”, she said.

[Agloco]

Pakistan may certainly request that we not fly in their airspace.

[mavs>spurs]

Pakistan may certainly request that we not fly in their airspace.

wtf happens then?

[Agloco]

Russia is threatening to block out supply routes into afghanistan as well as military intervention if something isn't agreed upon about our missile defense shield plans

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/24/russia-targets-us-missile-shield

this could get ugly...the whole asian continent is uniting against us.

Where does it say they will block the supply routes?

[Agloco]

wtf happens then?

A whole lot of nothing tbh. Just as in 2001.

[mavs>spurs]

Where does it say they will block the supply routes?

the other article below it makes note of it, they've mentioned it in recent days there are several sources floating around


A whole lot of nothing tbh. Just as in 2001.

so you're saying we'll just do it anyway or what?

[Agloco]

so you're saying we'll just do it anyway or what?

Just as in 2001

[Agloco]

the other article below it makes note of it, they've mentioned it in recent days there are several sources floating around



Ok

[Wild Cobra]

wtf happens then?
It can be considered an act of war if we do.

[mavs>spurs]

Just as in 2001

what happens when china steps in this time? they just did a huge military drill near the border, and troops are massing there as well.

[4>0rings]

what happens when china steps in this time? they just did a huge military drill near the border, and troops are massing there as well.

Woopty-freaking-do, we'll just park some carriers off their coast and mobilize huge sorties of b-52's.

China's soldiers going to shoot our bombs out of the air before they hit them?

I seriously wish China tests America. A good smack to the face should teach'em.

[ElNono]

Posturing...

[Agloco]

what happens when china steps in this time? they just did a huge military drill near the border, and troops are massing there as well.

What will they be stepping in with?

[ElNono]

what happens when china steps in this time? they just did a huge military drill near the border, and troops are massing there as well.

Fear the chinese's WMD...

http://www.taiwanese-secrets.com/image-files/chinese-traditions.007.jpg

[Heath Ledger]

http://www.deviantart.com/download/168941908/shall_we_play_a_game__by_newSaint.jpg

[Heath Ledger]

http://www.deskpicture.com/DPs/Miscellaneous/kaboom.jpg

[RandomGuy]

somebody get rogue in here to translate

http://www.junshijia.com/article/201111/83165_3.html

after recently coming out and saying that they would defend iran even if it meant a ww3. wtf is going on here?

http://thenewworldreporter.com/2011/11/28/china-to-protect-iran-even-with-a-third-world-war/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Republic_of_China%E2%80%93Pakistan_relati ons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Republic_of_China_%E2%80%93_Iran_relation s

It kind of goes without saying that an attack on Iran, being the primary source of Chinese oil, would... concern the Chinese.

Yet another way the fucktards on the right in this country that call for an invasion/attack show their supreme ignorance of the rest of the world.

Part and parcel of the isolationist streak in American politics.

[mavs>spurs]

You guys are sadly mistaken if you think china would be a cakewalk. We have 90,000 troops sitting there trapped if Russia, China, Iran, and Pakistan decide not to let us leave. Can't stop us? Lol oookay. Wed have to leave by air in somebody's airspace. Russia and china have the capabilities to shoot us down. You guys underestimate the rest of the world, they seem to be beginning to unite and fighting back against American aggression.

[Agloco]

You guys are sadly mistaken if you think china would be a cakewalk. We have 90,000 troops sitting there trapped if Russia, China, Iran, and Pakistan decide not to let us leave. Can't stop us? Lol oookay. Wed have to leave by air in somebody's airspace. Russia and china have the capabilities to shoot us down. You guys underestimate the rest of the world, they seem to be beginning to unite and fighting back against American aggression.

We leave through Pakistani airspace. Why is this so hard for you to piece together? Nothing 6 or 7 carrier groups cant handle.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but there is a sizeable NATO contingent over there as well. How do you think an entrapment of NATO forces would go down? It not as if the action is unilateral at this stage.

[cheguevara]

Russia is just fearmongering for their elections next year. And that is helping the GOPers do the fearmongering here. Both helping each other out.

[TDMVPDPOY]

wtf is china and russia always veto shit

why doesnt the rest of teh world just cut off and not trade with these 2 countries...its not like you need them, more like they need your capitalise money to fund their economy whether ur a buyer of their goods

[101A]

Cold war = 50 + years of sustained growth and prosperity for the U.S., as well as unparalleled world power and prestige for the Soviets (now Russia).

No doubt some believe ratcheting that back up is a win/win.

[101A]

China is NOT going to war with us. Not only would they get their asses completely handed to them (they would have no way of transporting troops ANYWHERE in the world without us sinking or shooting them out of the sky) - but beyond that we are, far and away, their biggest client! They would be third world again in short order. Twenty years from now? Probably will be a match at their current growth rate, but not now. Not even close.

[Heath Ledger]

You guys are sadly mistaken if you think china would be a cakewalk. We have 90,000 troops sitting there trapped if Russia, China, Iran, and Pakistan decide not to let us leave. Can't stop us? Lol oookay. Wed have to leave by air in somebody's airspace. Russia and china have the capabilities to shoot us down. You guys underestimate the rest of the world, they seem to be beginning to unite and fighting back against American aggression.

False. We would fly over Pakistans airspace and they cant or wont do shit about it because they are in our back pocket. You really think they would shoot us down?

[Heath Ledger]

China is NOT going to war with us. Not only would they get their asses completely handed to them (they would have no way of transporting troops ANYWHERE in the world without us sinking or shooting them out of the sky) - but beyond that we are, far and away, their biggest client! They would be third world again in short order. Twenty years from now? Probably will be a match at their current growth rate, but not now. Not even close.


Agreed. China would literally starve if our commerce with them ended.

[cheguevara]

China is NOT going to war with us. Not only would they get their asses completely handed to them (they would have no way of transporting troops ANYWHERE in the world without us sinking or shooting them out of the sky) - but beyond that we are, far and away, their biggest client! They would be third world again in short order. Twenty years from now? Probably will be a match at their current growth rate, but not now. Not even close.

can you please describe the scenario where China would get their asses handed to them?

at the first sign of US ships surrounding China, we would already be at defcon 1. At the first bomb dropped in China soil, the doomdsday clock will strike 12 o clock.

a few weeks later you and me will be looking for ketchup to season the cadavers that we have to eat to survive the Fallout

[cheguevara]

Agreed. China would literally starve if our commerce with them ended.

the world's biggest economy will probably outsurvive the rest of the sub economies (US and the rest)