View Full Version : Jesus was a free marketer, not an occupier
apropos to certain discussions of late . . .
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/06/my-take-jesus-was-a-free-marketer-not-an-occupier/comment-page-12/
boutons_deux
12-06-2011, 04:03 PM
FRC = "Christian" supremacist hate group. GFThemselves.
So you agree Jesus wouldn't support the occupiers then?
coyotes_geek
12-06-2011, 04:06 PM
Interesting read.
LnGrrrR
12-06-2011, 04:12 PM
Well, at least the author is unbiased.
But just what does Jesus' order to occupy mean? Does it mean take over and trash public property, as the Occupy movement has? Does it mean engage in antisocial behavior while denouncing a political and economic system that grants one the right and luxury to choose to be unproductive?
Who is OWS against? Wasn't it the people who run finances? And didn't Jesus have some famous quote about people who run finances... hm...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleansing_of_the_Temple
LnGrrrR
12-06-2011, 04:14 PM
To be sure, one could argue that Jesus was more pissed they were doing such in a house of worship. But I think trying to paint Jesus as some sort of free market paragon is foolish.
Why do you all hate the free market? And Christmas?
ElNono
12-06-2011, 04:18 PM
If all he would do is just write opinion pieces, I wouldn't have a problem with him.
Unfortunately, this is just another guy that wants to use the bible-thumping to tell everybody how they have to live. His words:
The definition of marriage as the union of one man and one woman is rooted in the order of nature itself. It promotes the continuation of the human race and the cooperation of a mother and a father in raising the children they produce. This union can only be protected through amending the United States Constitution. If it's not, activists will continue using the courts to sell a five-legged dog. But as we say where I'm from in Louisiana, 'that dog won't hunt.'
LnGrrrR
12-06-2011, 04:20 PM
Why do you all hate the free market? And Christmas?
Christmas raped my mom. :(
If it's not, activists will continue using the courts to sell a five-legged dog. But as we say where I'm from in Louisiana, 'that dog won't hunt.'[/I]
wtf does that even mean?
ElNono
12-06-2011, 04:23 PM
I can't believe that guy took the time to write a serious take on "supply-side jesus" :lol
On a serious note, just alarming a guy like him is in a position of power...
Where's the part of the bible where Jesus tells his disciples to buy US T-Bills? Or Ford Trucks?
Winehole23
12-06-2011, 04:23 PM
how perfectly tedious
ElNono
12-06-2011, 04:24 PM
wtf does that even mean?
I'll let phenomenaul explain it to you... :lol
http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/War_on_Christmas.jpg
I'll let phenomenaul explain it to you... :lol
I'd rather he tell me which circle of hell I'll be relegated to for saying crap like "jesus fucking christ"
Winehole23
12-06-2011, 04:25 PM
i've already got enough sunday school in my sunday school, vy. i don't need Tony Perkins stirring by sunday afternoon cocktail...
This'd be a lot more fun if someone tried defending Jesus "Adam Smith" Christ, for srs
Winehole23
12-06-2011, 04:43 PM
it's a pity you started this mess, yes
Wild Cobra
12-06-2011, 04:45 PM
http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/War_on_Christmas.jpg
A Christmas tree is not a symbol of Christianity, but of paganism.
Meh, it had the potential for so much more ...
WC. Yo dawg. Do you have a christmas tree up in your crib?
FuzzyLumpkins
12-06-2011, 04:47 PM
Where's the part of the bible where Jesus tells his disciples to buy US T-Bills? Or Ford Trucks?
You are familiar with the tantrum Jesus threw in the Temple of David and why right?
people llike to cite paul more than jesus it seems.
FuzzyLumpkins
12-06-2011, 04:48 PM
This'd be a lot more fun if someone tried defending Jesus "Adam Smith" Christ, for srs
Adam Smith along with his contemporary and close friend David Hume were staunch empiricists.
Wild Cobra
12-06-2011, 04:55 PM
WC. Yo dawg. Do you have a christmas tree up in your crib?
Sure, but I recognize it for what it is. Christianity, in it's movement to convert, took a pagan winter solstice holiday, and turned it into Christ's birthday. It's all a lie.
I get such a laugh at all the ignorant people trying to change "Merry Christmas" to "Happy Holiday's," because they think it's a Christian thing. I get a laugh out of the ignorant Christians for the same reason.
spursncowboys
12-06-2011, 05:05 PM
To be sure, one could argue that Jesus was more pissed they were doing such in a house of worship. But I think trying to paint Jesus as some sort of free market paragon is foolish.
I agree with the overall idea that . I don't think he would be for using the government to redistribute money so to give to the poor. However there were
many parables about god wanting people to have a good work ethic As well as god loving the poor and mist rotten more than the rich.
Blake
12-06-2011, 05:06 PM
apropos to certain discussions of late . . .
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/06/my-take-jesus-was-a-free-marketer-not-an-occupier/comment-page-12/
Who out there is claiming that OWS is WJWD?
I think the op is a free straw marketer
Stringer_Bell
12-06-2011, 05:11 PM
To be sure, one could argue that Jesus was more pissed they were doing such in a house of worship.
Absolutely, in much the way that us Conservatives are angry that the Federal Government is overstepping its authority and is basically butt-fucking the Constitution (which is also a sin) - Jesus was angry that merchants were defiling the temple.
LnGrrrR
12-06-2011, 05:16 PM
Absolutely, in much the way that us Conservatives are angry that the Federal Government is overstepping its authority and is basically butt-fucking the Constitution (which is also a sin) - Jesus was angry that merchants were defiling the temple.
Agreed, but I don't think Jesus was some champion of free marketing, more so than he was about working an honest living.
Blake
12-06-2011, 05:35 PM
Agreed, but I don't think Jesus was some champion of free marketing, more so than he was about working an honest living.
I could have sworn the carpentry business was lucrative back then.
J.C. was a 1 percenter, iirc.
RandomGuy
12-06-2011, 06:12 PM
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I think that Jesus would probably be aghast at the rampant materialism of the modern USA.
But that is my opinion.
"Jesus/God/whatever is on my side" is always a pointless, if sometimes amusing, sometimes hypocritical, exercise.
Based on what survives of the man's opinions, I don't think our treatment of the homeless and mentally ill would generally meet his approval, nor would the conservative War on the Poor likely make him overly happy.
"Fuck the poor, it is their own damn fault they can't afford new shoes".
:rolleyes
rascal
12-06-2011, 06:19 PM
I agree with the overall idea that . I don't think he would be for using the government to redistribute money so to give to the poor. However there were
many parables about god wanting people to have a good work ethic As well as god loving the poor and mist rotten more than the rich.
Why not. Jesus was amonst the poor(born in a manger ) and was concerned for the welfare of the poor. He was against the super rich. Sharing and redistributing wealth would not be against his beliefs.
This is the most retarded conversation I've ever seen. The OP is a fucking retard.
Cry Havoc
12-06-2011, 06:39 PM
Anti-materialist but free market?
Yeah, that doesn't exactly make a lot of sense.
how perfectly tedious
Ya think?!
spursncowboys
12-06-2011, 10:29 PM
Why not. Jesus was amonst the poor(born in a manger ) and was concerned for the welfare of the poor. He was against the super rich. Sharing and redistributing wealth would not be against his beliefs.
Luke 18 18 A certain ruler asked him, “Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
19 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. 20 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not commit adultery, you shall not murder, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, honor your father and mother.’[a]”
21 “All these I have kept since I was a boy,” he said.
22 When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
23 When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was very wealthy. 24 Jesus looked at him and said, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God! 25 Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
I think in how I interpret is that letting government do it, giving an amount that doesn't "hurt" or giving an amount, scheduled every week is not how he wants humans to give.
2 Thessalonians 3
Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us. For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us, because we were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone's bread without paying for it, but with toil and labor we worked night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you. It was not because we do not have that right, but to give you in ourselves an example to imitate. For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.
(2 Thessalonians 3:6-10 ESV)
greyforest
12-07-2011, 03:54 AM
Pretty sure that the only people Jesus ever got really pissed at were the money changers.
Wild Cobra
12-07-2011, 04:14 AM
Pretty sure that the only people Jesus ever got really pissed at were the money changers.
The people at the time knew why, do we know why?
TDMVPDPOY
12-07-2011, 04:18 AM
this is what i dont get with the bible
mankind existed b4 jesus and everything as you know is what it is
why does he need to write a book whats right or wrong how you should live ur life?
Wild Cobra
12-07-2011, 05:17 AM
this is what i dont get with the bible
mankind existed b4 jesus and everything as you know is what it is
why does he need to write a book whats right or wrong how you should live ur life?
Probably the same reason people today need reality TV.
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