Report: TJ Ford leaning toward signing with Spurs

[lefty]

Pop to TJ: " just pass the ball to Bonner and get the **** out of the way "

[Mr. Body]

I was puzzled by this when it came out and now the greybeards of the board are really laying out why it's a puzzling signing. Once again the FO shows they really don't know what they're doing with personnel, unless it pertains to the draft. When was the last FA signing that turned out good here? Gary Neal doesn't count - total accident.

[MaNu4Tres]

I honestly don't understand the fuss. People are typing in a worried fashion like he's going to have a huge role for the Spurs. He's not. As a matter of fact, I'm willing to bet Neal/Manu will play more meaningful minutes at the back up PG spot (if everyone stays healthy and if none of the back-court is traded to net a big man (Anderson). He won't get any relevant minutes or be a major fixture in the rotation when games start having a lot of meaning come April.

Sure he hasn't been any where close to what he used to be, that's why Spurs signed him to a one year deal for the minimum. It's a low risk/high reward minimum signing. Breath people breath.

[xtremesteven33]

I understand the worry TIMVP poses but I would think the Spurs FO learned not to sign players who they hope can be better with this team (RJ). But I think they see something in him that could be a pleasant surprise to the team and the fans.

Photos of he and Duncan are on the internet of them playing together this summer so maybe Tim endorses his spot on the team. Who knows? Lets give him a shot...

[DPG21920]

How can he hurt? If he gets out of line you cut him and pick up the same level of scrub that's currently available in free agency.

[MaNu4Tres]

Photos of he and Duncan are on the internet of them playing together this summer so maybe Tim endorses his spot on the team. Who knows? Lets give him a shot...

A friend of mine (sorry for sounding like T2S), sent me short video's via smartphone of the workouts/pick up games at Tim's house earlier this month. He was fortunate enough to work out with Tim, George, T.J, Durant and a few others. He even was fortunate enough to go paint-balling with Tim (lucky bastard; and yes T.J went paint-balling too).

Again my condolences for sounding like T2S.

[weebo]

I guess with Rj gone spurfan now has its number two whipping boy next to the Bon Bon

[DesignatedT]

How can he hurt? If he gets out of line you cut him and pick up the same level of scrub that's currently available in free agency.

People don't seem to be grasping this.

[ElNono]

If I did the math right, once you account for the 66/82 prorated salaries, we're paying $1.01 million for him. If he sucks, cutting him won't be an issue.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

TJ = Nasty Nick Mk II. :vomit:

If we start Neal, Manu will effectively be the backup PG anyway, so why not just sign a competent guy who can defend, handle the ball and hit a stationary 3? That's all we need.

[benefactor]

LJ seems to be in preseason form on this one. I'm sure his takes will be better when he gets into game shape.

[lefty]

LJ seems to be in preseason form on this one. I'm sure his takes will be better when he gets into game shape.
:lol


Bogut could use http://www.betterbasketball.com (http://www.betterbasketball.com/)

If he played basketball half as good as he talked it, he'd be a lot better than what we see. Yi Jianlian is about to pass him to make Bogut the fourth best player on his team.

:lmao:lmao:lmao



I'm not saying Bonner is a Bruce Bowen or anything, but I think he's going to be a nice addition and a Spur for a long time.

:rollin

[ElNono]

^ lefty, dusting off the old goods :lol

[Seventyniner]

If I did the math right, once you account for the 66/82 prorated salaries, we're paying $1.01 million for him. If he sucks, cutting him won't be an issue.

But the Spurs could still end up over the tax if they use the full MLE, so Ford could cost as much as $2M.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

timvp you gotta be kidding me. So TJ Ford is so bad that every time he makes an appearance on the court his teams are more likely to lose? gmafb. Its a good signing, and he is going to ball out for us. The main worry is health. If he stays healthy we got ourselves a solid backup PG. I hope he grows his cornrows back, our cred level would skyrocket.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

JT Chevy + health = BALLING OUT I SAAAAID

[DPG21920]

But the Spurs could still end up over the tax if they use the full MLE, so Ford could cost as much as $2M.

That is not a big financial commitment at all especially for a team munching down on 30M dollar contracts like they haven't eaten so well before.

[timvp]

How can he hurt? If he gets out of line you cut him and pick up the same level of scrub that's currently available in free agency.

Come on, bro, you know it doesn't work like that. The other free agent minimum PGs will be gone by the "Oops, TJ does suck" moment. The world doesn't pause to allow the Spurs to try him out.

[timvp]

Bogut could use http://www.betterbasketball.com

If he played basketball half as good as he talked it, he'd be a lot better than what we see. Yi Jianlian is about to pass him to make Bogut the fourth best player on his team.


I'm not saying Bonner is a Bruce Bowen or anything, but I think he's going to be a nice addition and a Spur for a long time.

Damn, lefty, in 15 years worth of posting the best you could find was a joke about Bogut and a true statement about Bonner? (Bonner has been a "nice addition" for a throw-in salary filler. And he has been a Spur for a long time. The problems with Bonner are A. The Spurs turned down Scola because of him B. Pop plays him too much C. Pop trusts him too much D. Pop pays him too much.)

If you are looking for timvp mistakes I suggest looking for how he thought signing Jackie Butler was a good thing, how he thought the RJ trade was a good one, how he thought Buckets was going to be waived in 2002 preseason, how he thought Greg Sutton had a shot to be a stud, among others.

[Russ]

The world doesn't pause to allow the Spurs to try him out.

Do they get to give him a physical?

[timvp]

timvp you gotta be kidding me. So TJ Ford is so bad that every time he makes an appearance on the court his teams are more likely to lose? gmafb.

Scro, it's not me saying that, I'm just reporting the facts. 58-44 when he doesn't play and 52-90 when he plays. Read into that what you will.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Scro, it's not me saying that, I'm just reporting the facts. 58-44 when he doesn't play and 52-90 when he plays. Read into that what you will.

You all but said it. You were implying it with those posts. Its silly, this is a very solid signing. Personally I am happy to see one of my favorites help out the Spurs, but objectively a back up point guard is not going to elevate us to making the second round or beyond. At the minimum he is a non factor on first round team. There's little to no downside here considering the money involved.

[GB20]

An undersized pg, one fall away from a wheelchair who cant shoot! GOOD LORD! RC check into rehab! 3rd offseason in a row we look to be left holding our dicks in one hand and a bottle of Jack in the other!

what other back up do you have in mind beside tj ford?

[024]

mehhhhhhh, at least he's not a 36 year old PG.

[ElNono]

But the Spurs could still end up over the tax if they use the full MLE, so Ford could cost as much as $2M.

That's yet to be seen, tbh... and really... as I stated earlier, I rather roll with TJ Ford than Chris Quinn... even if TJ Ford ends up flaming out...

[DPG21920]

Come on, bro, you know it doesn't work like that. The other free agent minimum PGs will be gone by the "Oops, TJ does suck" moment. The world doesn't pause to allow the Spurs to try him out.

Are you kidding? You really think that an equivalent suck level of PG that is the current FA PG pool won't be available? There are trades, players shaking loose....

Point is this group is so bad that you aren't missing out on anything that you can't find in the d-league basically. It's that bad.

[lefty]

Damn, lefty, in 15 years worth of posting the best you could find was a joke about Bogut and a true statement about Bonner? (Bonner has been a "nice addition" for a throw-in salary filler. And he has been a Spur for a long time. The problems with Bonner are A. The Spurs turned down Scola because of him B. Pop plays him too much C. Pop trusts him too much D. Pop pays him too much.)

If you are looking for timvp mistakes I suggest looking for how he thought signing Jackie Butler was a good thing, how he thought the RJ trade was a good one, how he thought Buckets was going to be waived in 2002 preseason, how he thought Greg Sutton had a shot to be a stud, among others.

:lol

[GSH]

The previous year, the Pacers were 19-16 in games TJ Ford didn't play and 13-34 in games he did play. What was the excuse that year?




You're kidding, right? You're better than that. Did you even bother to notice that a whole lot of those losses were games they played without Danny Granger? Somehow I think the losses had more to do with Granger being out, than Ford being in.

How about this: Last season, the Spurs were 51-12 with DaJuan Blair as a starter, and 12-13 the rest of the way, without Blair as a starter. Doesn't that prove that the reason their record went to shit was because Pop took Blair out of the starting rotation? If they would have just kept him in there, they would have kept up their .800 pace through the playoffs and won another title?

The Pacers were a shit team when Ford got there, with a shit coach whose teams have only been above .500 in 3 of his 9 seasons coaching. The system he put in place in Indy was only slightly worse than the average high school team. I don't think Ford is a top-tier NBA point guard, but you can hardly judge his ability by the success/failure of that Pacers team. It was an organization in total disarray.

[Dex]

Looks like this is getting done.


TJ Ford Will be a Spur

Print Story Published: 12/07 10:00 pm Share Updated: 12/07 10:11 pm
Former Texas Longhorn and free agent guard TJ Ford confirmed to News 4 WOAI TV that he will sign with the San Antonio Spurs. News 4 Sports Director Don Harris spoke with Ford over the phone and confirmed that he will be a Spurs. Ford will replace George Hill who was traded to the Indiana Pacers on draft night.


http://www.woai.com/content/sports/spurs/story/TJ-Ford-Will-be-a-Spur/vOvGZ2NxNkaY5LvoZAC0YQ.cspx

[DMC]

At least as good as Jacques Vaughn.

[spursdotcom]

http://www.nba.com/spurs/111209_spurs_sign_tj_ford

:toast

[Mr. Body]

Uh... yaay?

[8FOR!3]

I'm happy to have TJ Ford, he's a solid backup.

[justinandimcool]

You guys are seriously lame. What kind of back up PG do you want, the corpse of Speedy Claxton? TJ is a vet, talented, wants to be here, and is a spark off the bench.

If him playing 20 mpg causes us to lose more games, then that's on Pop. Because having an experienced semi-distributor in Ford is damn better than a lot of options out there for a BACKUP. LOL Bibby. LOL Telfair. LOL having to overpay for Barea.

At least now we can focus our attention on bigs and SF

[Obstructed_View]

Hey I remember when Speedy Claxton scored 44 points in a game 7 of the NBA Finals. He also had 11 assists and knocked up three Silver Dancers during timeouts.

[Mr Fundamental]

TJ Ford is a rabbit out of a hat.

I think Pop wants the G-Hill role from TJ off the bench.

[justinandimcool]

TJ Ford is a rabbit out of a hat.

I think Pop wants the G-Hill role from TJ off the bench.



And he's a much better fit for it. After 6 years of Vaughn Mase and Hill spurfan (and Pop) has forgotten what a decent back up PG is. I expect we'll know the difference immediately.

[lefty]

You guys are seriously lame. What kind of back up PG do you want, the corpse of Speedy Claxton? TJ is a vet, talented, wants to be here, and is a spark off the bench.

If him playing 20 mpg causes us to lose more games, then that's on Pop. Because having an experienced semi-distributor in Ford is damn better than a lot of options out there for a BACKUP. LOL Bibby. LOL Telfair. LOL having to overpay for Barea.

At least now we can focus our attention on bigs and SF

Exactly


This posts wins

[Dex]

Hey I remember when Speedy Claxton scored 44 points in a game 7 of the NBA Finals. He also had 11 assists and knocked up three Silver Dancers during timeouts.

:lol

[Darkwaters]

Hey I remember when Speedy Claxton scored 44 points in a game 7 of the NBA Finals. He also had 11 assists and knocked up three Silver Dancers during timeouts.

Best. game. ever.

[gospursgojas]

Bobby Jackson wasn't available?

[SenorSpur]

Dude is a huge ball hog. People saying otherwise are either delusional or have never seen him play.

That's pretty comical that a guy who can't shoot would have the audacity to be a ball-hogger. What's his deal?

[ChumpDumper]

TJ Ford looked absolutely awful when he was playing with Zagreb this year.

The guy has zero basketball IQ and just plays 100% pure street ball every time he touches the ball. The Spurs are getting super desperate if they sign him.Now I feel really good about this signing.

[Dex]

KBP's idea of ball hogging is apparently bringing the ball up the floor.

"Why the fuck does THAT guy always have to dribble it across!?"

[baseline bum]

Hey I remember when Speedy Claxton scored 44 points in a game 7 of the NBA Finals. He also had 11 assists and knocked up three Silver Dancers during timeouts.

It was game 6; no way Speedy was going to let the Nets force a seventh.

[angelbelow]

Mentioned earlier in the thread that I didn't like the idea. But after it became official I looked at his profile and hes only 28... that was surprising to me since it seems like hes been around for awhile and should be at least 32 lol. But at the age of 28, hopefully hes still got his trademark speed and effectively spell Parker rest time.

I wasn't open to him before but now that hes on the team I'm going to be optimistic and hope that his strengths shine more than his faults.

[gospursgojas]

Whos #42 in the vid above? Dude can shoot.

[The_Worlds_finest]

This forum is pathetic. Happy the Spurs got a ball hogging street ball style point guard...........

The Spurs fan base is one of the worst in all of sports.

so.....you know...stop posting and go away

[Spursfan092120]

Is lies!!

[Fpoonsie]

KBP's idea of ball hogging is apparently bringing the ball up the floor.

"Why the fuck does THAT guy always have to dribble it across!?"

:lol

[scottspurs]

T.J. Ford just doing what T.J. Ford does. Dominating Turkish slobs gonna be the best backup PG spurs have ever had.

[jjktkk]

Yeah, because those Croatian teams are all full of Turkish guys, especially since they are mostly made up of American and Croatian players.

Yeah, a guy that played like crap in the Euroleague this year is going to be "the best backup point guard the Spurs ever had".


I respected your opinons more, when you typed broken English.

[therealtruth]

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=002818&clubcode=ZAG

He's an American that played at Gonzaga. Surely, you heard of him.

The Spurs should get that guy as a replacement for Bonner. He can shoot lights out, has a fast release, and needs little space to get his shot off. I am tired of watching Bonner's slow release. Most people can hit a decent percent on three's giving enough time but having a fast release and being accurate is much harder.

[bigfan]

The Spurs should get that guy as a replacement for Bonner. He can shoot lights out, has a fast release, and needs little space to get his shot off. I am tired of watching Bonner's slow release. Most people can hit a decent percent on three's giving enough time but having a fast release and being accurate is much harder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Heytvelt

Give that guy a look Pop!

[G-Dawgg]

You are all going to be surprised at how good TJ Ford is.... This kid is quick and he can get into the lane at will, he also has much better pg skills than George Hill. He may not be the best shooter, but he can score in bunches. I followed him alot when he was a Raptor. He's really going be an asset to the Spurs.

[Ace]

Tj motherfucking Ford :lmao

[Manufan909]

I guess with Rj gone spurfan now has its number two whipping boy next to the Bon Bon

With RJ gone? Did he get cut without me hearing about it or what?

[Brazil]

Clippers getting CP3
Spurs getting TJ Ford lol

at least this is the end of the numerous trade TP for CP3 threads

[Fireball]

at least this is the end of the numerous trade TP for CP3 threads

perhaps this is all part of some ingenious plan from the Clippers to get TP ... now they can offer CP3 :rollin

[eric365]

Clippers getting CP3
Spurs getting TJ Ford lol

at least this is the end of the numerous trade TP for CP3 threads

It will just start numerous trade TP for D-Will threads instead

[z0sa]

I really like this pickup. Ford is a Texas guy through and through and he's an actual POINT GUARD, unlike huge dick Hill.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

TJ Ford is talented, really fast, really quick, and can score. I'm not denying that. He's way more talented than George Hill is. The problem is that he is a HUGE ball hog, with a HUGE ego.

And he loves to ISO and street ball. Besides that, he is totally redundant to Parker.

I don't see how he fits the Spurs.

TJ is such a ball hog that he has always racks up assists. I would bet my balls that most in this thread calling him a ball hog have not ever seen hi play at length. Now he has an ego, too? Yet more talent than george hill?? Ah, cheeze!!

[temujin]

TJ Ford has the basketball IQ of a watermelon.
A December watermelon.

[z0sa]

So what? He's "racks up assists"..............how the hell does that change the fact that he ball hogs and plays street ball?

Explain it to me please genius.


assists = hard facts.

ballhog streetballer = your own imperfect opinion.

[scottspurs]

Yeah, because those Croatian teams are all full of Turkish guys, especially since they are mostly made up of American and Croatian players.

Yeah, a guy that played like crap in the Euroleague this year is going to be "the best backup point guard the Spurs ever had".

Croatia, Turkey, Iraq, Greece, whatever they are all the same. Just a bunch of scrubs getting dominated by T.J. Ford during his free time.

[monkeypunk]

I don't know why people are hating this signing so much. I think that the second unit will benefit greatly from a natural creator bringing up the ball.

Parker being a scoring point means that we have to have a pass first pg on the 2nd team for balance. Hill was a great defender but he's a 2 guard.

I'm excited cause a motivated, healthy TJ is gonna run circles around the majority of the leagues 2nd string pgs.

:flag:

[ChumpDumper]

6.5 assists per game = ballhog

Greek logic.

[ChumpDumper]

2 Euroleague games = representative sample for entire career

Greek logic.

[TimmehC]

Euroleague scorers are a lot stingier with assists than the NBA. 6.5 is pretty damn impressive.

[Dex]

Don't forget....


You are a moron = FACT

Greek logic.

[ChumpDumper]

Euroleague scorers are a lot stingier with assists than the NBA. 6.5 is pretty damn impressive.KBP is citing averages of two (2) games.

Basically he had one game where he went 0/4 from the floor but had 10 assists, then one game where he had only 3 assists but scored 12 points on 50% shooting and got to the line 6 times.

He took a total of ten shots in 33 minutes of Euroleague game time.

lol ballhog

[silverblk mystix]

TJ Ford is a huge upgrade over G "CHOKER" Hill....

Hill never got Steve Nash's cock outta his sphincter....

[scottspurs]

6.5 assiists dang. T.J. Ford taking those Eurochumps to school. T.J. Ford should be named king of Europe.

[ChumpDumper]

Your IQ could not possibly be above 65.What fact from the above post do you have a problem with?

Be specific.

[therealtruth]

KBP is citing averages of two (2) games.

Basically he had one game where he went 0/4 from the floor but had 10 assists, then one game where he had only 3 assists but scored 12 points on 50% shooting and got to the line 6 times.

He took a total of ten shots in 33 minutes of Euroleague game time.

lol ballhog

I think he offers a good opposite to Parker. You need a PG that can see that someone's not being involved and goes out of his way to get that guy an easy basket to get him going. By passing the PG can make the other 4 guys on the court more serious threats to score than trying to attack himself.

[ChumpDumper]

Right, so since Josh Heytvelt was personally responsible for 90% of Ford's assists, due to him knocking down jump shot after jump shot after jump shot, off of simple hand off passes from Ford............I guess that means Heytvelt should be declared the Jordan of Europe.

PISS OFFSo Ford knows how to feed the hot hand. Yeah!

:toast

[monkeypunk]

TJ Ford is a huge upgrade over G "CHOKER" Hill....

Hill never got Steve Nash's cock outta his sphincter....

Nearly a rookie, playing out of position against maybe the smartest pg to ever play the game and he is choking on a cock in his sphincter?

Anatomical inconsistencies aside, okaaaaaaaay.

:rolleyes

[scottspurs]

Right, so since Josh Heytvelt was personally responsible for 90% of Ford's assists, due to him knocking down jump shot after jump shot after jump shot, off of simple hand off passes from Ford............I guess that means Heytvelt should be declared the Jordan of Europe.

PISS OFF

Your English is lacking let me translate. T.J. Ford gets to the line with impressive accuracy in Europe. T.J. Ford is so good he makes Josh Heytvelt look like Michael Jordan. T.J. Ford Pisses on Europe. T.J. Ford is King.

[scottspurs]

TJ Ford is so good he had a PIR of 9.5 in Euroleague. Good for the 80th best ranked player in the league.

Pisspoor
Idiotic
Rating

Good to know Ford doesn't rank high on that list. Just goes to show the Ford is the best in Texas.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

KBP is citing averages of two (2) games.

Basically he had one game where he went 0/4 from the floor but had 10 assists, then one game where he had only 3 assists but scored 12 points on 50% shooting and got to the line 6 times.

He took a total of ten shots in 33 minutes of Euroleague game time.

lol ballhog

Wow this thread got nasty really fast. Is Manu_Forever really KBP??? I would never say Ford dominates, but the guy is a natural dime disher. He is not a ball hog. He sucks at shooting, when he does shoot though.

[ChumpDumper]

Is Manu_Forever really KBP???Who else could he be?

[z0sa]

80th best ranked player in the league.

in only 33 minutes. about what i'd expect of an NBA bench player vs garbage.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Who else could he be?

Beats me, I've never been good at identifying alter screen names on ST

[z0sa]

Minutes played has no affect on the PIR stat.

lol

minutes played affects everything. which is why using some indirect method for rating a player who only played 33 minutes and 2 games is ... moronic.

[z0sa]

You are an idiot.

PIR stat is not based on minutes played.

So when TJ Ford steps on the court, time stops.

Dude is a badass.

[TimmehC]

He should've been named MVP like Splitter.

[scottspurs]

So when TJ Ford steps on the court, time stops.

Dude is a badass.

+1 Great Point.

[4>0rings]

:lmao

[Ice009]

I don't think I like Tj's game from what he has shown so far. He's getting me frustrated.

[Brazil]

Tj sucks

[Robz4000]

He's not that bad. It's good to know that CJ is lookin like a viable option this season though.

[Basketball Power]

was this our big offseason signing to give the big 3 one last shot?

[Obstructed_View]

T is for "Turrible", and J is for "Better than Spanoulis".

[jjktkk]

was this our big offseason signing to give the big 3 one last shot?

Who said that the Spurs were going to have a big offseason signing?

[Tuddy]

Didn't think he looked too bad tbh, the time they blew the 4 on 1 was more the trailers fault for being too bunched. More worried about Leonard's passiveness offensively because he knows he cant shoot.

[thOOdee]

definitely excited for a parker joseph tandem.

[gospursgojas]

Tj didn't look too bad tonight.

On d, I thought he moved his feet well and stayed in front of his man

On offense hes still dribbling way too much. But I don't see what all the negativity about him is for.

[z0sa]

Dude has some timely passes. I'm continuing to be excited about him.

[The_Worlds_finest]

if only he can bring the badass out of rj..

[L.I.T]

I'm actually beginning to wonder if RJ might work better coming off the bench with TJ. At least TJ's instincts seem to be to push it and RJ flourishes (relatively speaking) getting to run.

JA's skill set might work better with the starting line up anyway.

[mystargtr34]

With the SF role on the Spurs starting lineup being pretty much catch and shoot 3's while Duncan and Parker create.. theres a good chance JA would be able to flourish in that role if given the opportunity.. if it were fair to the team.

I think its asking too much for the young guys to be playing together off the bench without at least 1 of the big 3 on the floor with them. So thats why im not too keen on bringing Tiago, JA and Kawhi all off the bench.. i dont like that balance. At least 1, if not 2 of them should be starting alongside Tim and Tony imo.. and bring Manu off the bench to take the pressure of the young guys.

Another thing.. it may be a reason why Blair struggles more when coming off the bench. He gets that little bit of extra attention and things arent as easy playing off Matt Bonner and George Hill compared to Tim and Tony. Thats why i think Tiago would really flourish in the starting lineup given the opportunity.. hes pretty crafty around the rim off of pick and roll feeds.. especially compared to creating from the post.. which is really the only way he can score when he was playing his minutes with George Hill last season due to the lack of creativity and easy opportunities.

Anyway.. whatever.. i have sort of given up hope already which is sad. Im expecting Tim/Blair/RJ for the first part of the season.. then when that fails.. Tim/Bonner/RJ.