Knicks to waive Billups and land Chandler

[Riddler]

KBergCBS Ken Berger
If the deal goes through, the Knicks use amnesty on Chauncey Billups and move Ronny Turiaf to make room for Chandler, sources say.
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Ken Berger
KBergCBS Ken Berger
Multiple league executives say the Knicks are now in the lead to land Tyson Chandler, jumping in front of the Warriors.

[DeadlyDynasty]

great move...Paul, Chandler, Stat, Melo...dayum

[Stalin]

:lol one and done

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

What is the proposed deal?

[I. Hustle]

Pop should have waited. Thats his kind of old guy

[mavsfan1000]

Chandler sucks.

[DJ Mbenga]

wait why didnt they just buy him out or reject the deal. 15 million dollar mistake. also isnt his contact partially guaranteed? i think 5 million is. anyways maybe they needed those extra 10 guaranteed.
i dont know id be more interested in nene, chandler is getting glorified like perkins did by the celtics its going to be costly.

billups will be a hot commodity. he has a 1 yr deal so its a real no risk bid. not like roy where you would have been stuck with him for 4 years. i hope for his sake nobody bids he deserves to be a free agent. on the other hand nevermind he will run to the heat wont he? #competetivebalance

[pass1st]

So a deal for CP3 based around Amare, let's see what LAL is going to offer to compete.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

KBergCBS Ken Berger
Sources say Golden State's offer for Chandler was not as robust as the 5-year, $60M that's been reported.
It's the same amount of money, and he'll be getting his $60M a year sooner in GS. What the fuck?

[TimmehC]

That would definitely be a big step in the right direction for NY. Now just get rid of coach Pringles.

[baseline bum]

I guess this is the backup plan if the Lakers land Paul.

[Giuseppe]

Chandler will founder in NY.

[mavs>spurs]

mavs landing dwight and billups, we staaaaaaaaaaaacked

[Killakobe81]

Hmmm interesting. LOL at someone saying they would offer Amare for Paul ....why would Hornets eat that contract?
If Paul definitely would sign with Knicks ...amnesty Amare, sign Chandler and let Cauncey's contract expire so you can sign Paul as a FA ...

[Killakobe81]

^ of course neither would happen ...just saying ...

[SpursDynasty85]

Smart move by the Knicks, but their garaunteed not to get Chris Paul next year. He'll require around 15 mil acquire and I don't see them having enough money with Chandler/Melo/Amare on the books.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

NY is basically saying they prefer Chandler to Paul. If this deal falls through, how does Paul feel about joining the Knicks now?

[lefty]

Staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacked

[mavs>spurs]

who's their pg if they lose billups?

[Killakobe81]

Smart move by the Knicks, but their garaunteed not to get Chris Paul next year. He'll require around 15 mil acquire and I don't see them having enough money with Chandler/Melo/Amare on the books.

Exactly. so the question is would they be better with:

(A) amare Melo Paul

or

(B) Chandler, Melo Amare

... ?

[DJ Mbenga]

looks like its getting closer. warriors gun shy moving on. probably better to get nene

espn source" 98% done to the knicks"

[cheguevara]

:lol one and done

:lmao

[baseline bum]

The Knicks could likely only offer Chandler a starting salary around $10 million or so, and I don't see why Cuban wouldn't match that.

[DJ Mbenga]

The Knicks could likely only offer Chandler a starting salary around $10 million or so, and I don't see why Cuban wouldn't match that.

he isnt restricted. reportedly the mavs offered him a 1 yr 20 million deal. knicks can trade or amnesty billups to open up the rest of the money needed for a 13 million a yr deal. may have enough after to convince grant hill to go there.

[DJ Mbenga]

new trade rumor. amare for cp3. could end up cockblocking the celtics

[DeadlyDynasty]

link?

[JamStone]

Mike D'Antoni would like to know who he needs to blow to get Steve Nash on the Knicks for one year.

[Giuseppe]

^It won't be Terry Porter.

tee, hee.

[Muser]

Why would the Knicks want to trade Stoudemire for Paul?

[pass1st]

Why would the Knicks want to trade Stoudemire for Paul?

Do trades usually have good reasoning behind them?

[Darth_Pelican]

link?

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/7330900/tyson-chandler-dallas-mavericks-nears-deal-new-york-knicks-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/7330900/tyson-chandler-dallas-mavericks-nears-deal-new-york-knicks-sources-say)

Tyson Chandler near deal with Knicks

By Marc Stein
ESPN.com
Archive (http://search.espn.go.com/marc-stein/)



In the latest twist of his expected departure from the Dallas Mavericks (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/dal/dallas-mavericks), Tyson Chandler (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/984/tyson-chandler) is closing in on a deal with the New York Knicks (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/ny/new-york-knicks), according to sources close to the process.

"New York is Tyson's first choice," one source told ESPN.com, confirming a Thursday report from CBSSports.com that the Knicks have jumped ahead of the Golden State Warriors (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/gs/golden-state-warriors) in the race to sign Chandler.
"It's 98 percent sure that Tyson is going to wind up with the Knicks."
To create sufficient salary-cap space to sign Chandler, New York is expected to shed the contracts of Chauncey Billups (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/63/chauncey-billups) and Ronny Turiaf (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2789/ronny-turiaf), through either trades or the forthcoming amnesty clause.
Signing Chandler, sources said, could free up the Knicks to offer star forward Amare Stoudemire (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1727/amare-stoudemire) to the New Orleans Hornets (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/no/new-orleans-hornets) in a trade scenario for Chris Paul (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2779/chris-paul), who badly wants to reunite with Chandler after their time together with the Hornets.
CSNBayArea.com reported that the Warriors are trying to sweeten a four-year offer to Chandler valued at $60 million to outbid the Knicks.

Marc Stein covers the NBA for ESPN.com.

Follow Marc Stein on Twitter: @ESPNSteinLine (http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)

[DMC]

Gee, where's all the Timberwolves, Bobcats, Kings, Wizards trades? What? No stars want to go to those teams?

lol competitive balance.

lol trying to force NY into becoming a championship team (not going to happen).

[baseline bum]

he isnt restricted. reportedly the mavs offered him a 1 yr 20 million deal. knicks can trade or amnesty billups to open up the rest of the money needed for a 13 million a yr deal. may have enough after to convince grant hill to go there.

Cutting Billups and not picking up the QO on Derrick Brown only gets their payroll down to $46.4 million with 8 players under contract. Add in 3 slots under 11 at minimum and that adds their cap number to $47.6 million. Since the cap this season is supposed to be the same as last season under the proposed CBA ($58.04 million), that leaves $10.4 million to sign Chandler. Of course if they do the Stoudemire for Paul trade it would open up another $2 million or so.

[Giuseppe]

Amare must be bent over a New York sink about now.

tee, hee.

[baseline bum]

Amare must be bent over a New York sink about now.

tee, hee.

He's gotta be rooting hard for you fuckers to land Paul now.

[Darth_Pelican]

Looks like CP3's wish to go to the Knicks is in the works.

[Giuseppe]

He's gotta be rooting hard for you fuckers to land Paul now.

Yep.

He'll have to be put on suicide watch if he's traded out of there.

[DJ Mbenga]

Cutting Billups and not picking up the QO on Derrick Brown only gets their payroll down to $46.4 million with 8 players under contract. Add in 3 slots under 11 at minimum and that adds their cap number to $47.6 million. Since the cap this season is supposed to be the same as last season under the proposed CBA ($58.04 million), that leaves $10.4 million to sign Chandler. Of course if they do the Stoudemire for Paul trade it would open up another $2 million or so.

trading turiaf for nothing also works.

[DPG21920]

Exactly. so the question is would they be better with:

(A) amare Melo Paul

or

(B) Chandler, Melo Amare

... ?

I think the realistic question is: would you rather have Paul/Melo/Tyson or Amare/Melo/Average PG since the Knicks likely wouldn't be able to offer Paul the most money if he's a FA.

It's a legit question considering Amare & Melo arent the best of fits. Shifting the talent from Amare to Paul gets you equal talent with a better fit as Tyson is a better defender and doesn't need shots.

Not saying that's what's going on or if I agree with it, just my thoughts.


new trade rumor. amare for cp3. could end up cockblocking the celtics


link?

I read that as well. Amare is still a young beast and him and okafor could be a nice coup for NO.

If NY goes the amnesty route and decides to keep amare, they must trust Toney Douglas.

[DMC]

Mike D'Antoni would like to know who he needs to blow to get Steve Nash on the Knicks for one year.
The 7 second offense is dead. Nash wouldn't resurrect it. Mike D is worthless.

If Pop had Amare, Melo and Billups, the Spurs would have made it to the Finals last year.

[Muser]

I don't get it. I know he had a poor playoffs but who do NY have to replace him at PF?

[Darth_Pelican]

[QUOTE=DPG21920;5498577]I read that as well. Amare is still a young beast and him and okafor could be a nice coup for NO.

Hornets 2012 ??

G Chauncey Billups (Jarret Jack)
SG Marcus Thorton (Marco Belinelli)
F David West (Trevor Ariza, Carl Landry)
F Amare Stoudemire
C Okafur (Aaron Gray)

[baseline bum]

trading turiaf for nothing also works.

Turiaf at $4.3 million seems like it could be a pretty hard sell early in free agency.

[pass1st]

[QUOTE=DPG21920;5498577]I read that as well. Amare is still a young beast and him and okafor could be a nice coup for NO.

Hornets 2012 ??

G Chauncey Billups (Jarret Jack)
SG Marcus Thorton (Marco Belinelli)
F David West (Trevor Ariza, Carl Landry)
F Amare Stoudemire
C Okafur (Aaron Gray)

7th Seed, swept by OKC.

[Muser]

lol David West would get dominated at the 3.

[Darth_Pelican]

lol David West would get dominated at the 3.

True. If Amare lands in NO, I don't think Hornets push to resign West.

[Killakobe81]

[QUOTE=DPG21920;5498577]I read that as well. Amare is still a young beast and him and okafor could be a nice coup for NO.

Hornets 2012 ??

G Chauncey Billups (Jarret Jack)
SG Marcus Thorton (Marco Belinelli)
F David West (Trevor Ariza, Carl Landry)
F Amare Stoudemire
C Okafur (Aaron Gray)

They got thorton and Landry back? thorton was traded for Landry and is a RFA Landry I believe is a UFA ....

[Killakobe81]

West is a UFA as well ...but details ...

[DPG21920]

I didn't write that lol

[Darth_Pelican]

[QUOTE=Darth_Hornet;5498639]

They got thorton and Landry back? thorton was traded for Landry and is a RFA Landry I believe is a UFA ....

No and No, but both are on their radar according to Demps.

[Mugen]

how is Stern going to be able to convince Dell Demps that the trash the lakers/rockets deal has to offer is >>>> Amare?

[Killakobe81]

Do Hornets fans want a pissed off amare for Paul?

[Mugen]

Do Hornets fans want a pissed off amare for Paul?

If i were a Horents fan, Id prefer a pissed off amare than a passive gasol or Moobs Bynum, TBH, FWIW....

[Killakobe81]

IF I am Amare, Im pissed because I started the renaissance and now they trying to kick him out ... LOL.

If they did cut Chauncey wouldnt mind seeing him on the Lakers ...even at thsi stage of his career. Though his clutch shooting is a bit overrated he does make some timely shots. If he goes to the heat then if Im the Lakers I go after chalmers which should be cheaper ...assuming we do not get Paul.

[Jacob1983]

Mark Cuban is a dumbass.

He just wants one :lobt:

[Killakobe81]

If i were a Horents fan, Id prefer a pissed off amare than a passive gasol or Moobs Bynum, TBH, FWIW....

Bynum is made of glass, and Pau has some bitch tendencies ...and I am not saying I would prefer them over amare ...just saying they would be more happy to be in NO in fact Bynum wants a chance to be featured. Pau played in Memphis and lives in spain in the off-season so he probably wouldn't mind.

Amare would ONLy appreciate the big Louisiana booties ...doubt he would be happy with ANYTHING else. He would force a trade somewhere before long ...

[DeadlyDynasty]

Mark Cuban is a dumbass.

He just wants one :lobt:

That doesn't make any sense.

[DMC]

If i were a Horents fan, Id prefer a pissed off amare than a passive gasol or Moobs Bynum, TBH, FWIW....
Except Gasol has a high IQ and doesn't do stupid shit. Amare, no so much.

[DMC]

Bynum is made of glass, and Pau has some bitch tendencies ...and I am not saying I would prefer them over amare ...just saying they would be more happy to be in NO in fact Bynum wants a chance to be featured. Pau played in Memphis and lives in spain in the off-season so he probably wouldn't mind.

Amare would ONLy appreciate the big Louisiana booties ...doubt he would be happy with ANYTHING else. He would force a trade somewhere before long ...
Laker fans are always eager to shit on the guys who got them a ring, as long as they keep the idol.

[Banzai]

So a line up of..Chandler/Melo/?/?/?

[Nathan89]

This is huge for the Heat.

[Mugen]

this should make Lakerfan happy cuz if paul/chandler goes to NY then it pretty much seals the deal for D12 going to the Lakers.

[Killakobe81]

Laker fans are always eager to shit on the guys who got them a ring, as long as they keep the idol.

Who is shitting on them? DMC my point was that despite the injuries o Bynum and Pau's unusually bad playoffs last season, I would rather have either if I was the Hornets. Amare would NOT be happy in NO ...

Me admitting Bynum has had injury issues and Pau went soft last playoffs is shitting? Maybe unlike you I am willing to admit when my favorite team or player craps the bed. Kobe wasnt great against Dallas either ...

[Trill Clinton]

I bet Billups is HEATED right now lol.

[DPG21920]

How is this huge for the Heat?

[Budkin]

I still don't get why players leave teams that are coming off titles.

[Killakobe81]

Except Gasol has a high IQ and doesn't do stupid shit. Amare, no so much.

I also agree with you here DMC ...Pau is undervalued by plenty of NBA fans not just Laker fans. That being said when people sais he wa sthe best big man two seasosn ago, those fans are crazy. Those that say Kobe "made him" are crazy as well.

Now that we know Dirk can carry a team, I will say Pau is one of the best #2 options in the NBA. (obviously Lebron or Wade is #1 Maybe Amare/Melo and a few others are arguably better)

[DPG21920]

I'd easily rather have Amare over Bynum or Pau under any circumstance if I'm NO

[Giuseppe]

How is this huge for the Heat?

Finally displaying some of his aunt's good sense.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I still don't get why players leave teams that are coming off titles.

umm...more money?

[Kyle Orton]

I still don't get why players leave teams that are coming off titles.

Greedy monkeys need the money to spend on weed and coke tbh

[Killakobe81]

I'd easily rather have Amare over Bynum or Pau under any circumstance if I'm NO

I disagree unless I had a willing future trade partner. His contract is bloated and I doubt he would be very motivated... but many here just look at talent alone and he defintely is the most talented of the 3.

[lefty]

Go Knicks :D

[Trill Clinton]

Greedy monkeys need the money to spend on weed and cough syrup tbh

fify:toast

[cheguevara]

:lmao knicks

overhyping Chandler

[cheguevara]

Greedy monkeys need the money to spend on weed and coke tbh

Chandler and other such players will never ever be offered this much money ever again. They are taking it

But I agree, the "team" principles have been lost by today's society. Or maybe Cuban just sucks as a boss

[lefty]

Chandler is worthless without a good PG.
Sup Timvp

[024]

so... billups to heat or lakers?