Lakers Trading for Chris Paul

[Russo21]

Shitty move by the Lakers in my oppinion. They trade 2 of their 3 headed frontline monster for Chris Paul. Chris is awesome but they've gone from having the biggest and best frontline in the NBA to having just often injured Andrew Bynum on the frontline? Now the Lakers have the best backcourt in the NBA but if Bynum goes down as usual they are fucked in the middle. So i think it's good for the other teams in the NBA.

Although i have been hearing rumblings they're wanting to dangle Bynum for Dwight Howard? Orlando would be stupid to do that they could do heaps better for him. But if that went down then we'd be fucked lol. If that doesnt go down then Paul for Gasol/Odom is good news for the rest of the league. Good job Lakers:lol

[Wombatzu]

I doubt the Lakers make this trade without being sure they are getting DH.

Doesn't matter much anyway, the Heat lineup might end up being Billups, Wade, Battier, LBJ, and Bosh.

After tomorrow we might have a two-team league.

[DesignatedT]

Well we definitely match up better with them now. We had no chance against that big lineup of theirs but that seems to be done with.

[Buddy Holly]

I doubt the Lakers make this trade without being sure they are getting DH.

They have no one to offer outside of Kobe. :lol

[BillMc]

The Lakers would have an all-word guard tandem - as long as those knees hold up. And a good center in Bynum - again as long as the knees hold up... It would be all about the knees.

Orlando would not send Dwight out there for only Bynum and garbage. They could do much better as others have said.

[BillMc]

Am I the only one who thinks Gasol and Odom and their match up nightmares are too much to give up for Paul? As great as he is...

[Wombatzu]

Am I the only one who thinks Gasol and Odom and their match up nightmares are too much to give up for Paul? As great as he is...

No, I agree. And that's why I have a hard time seeing the Lakers doing this without a DH deal about to fall in place. If that doesn't happen, then this trade is pretty ridiculous -- in a bad way.

[Wildcat67]

Don't see how Paul is gonna help with Kobe dominating the ball all game.

There greatest asset (their size) is now gone.

I like.

[Drewlius]

Wow. Crazy trade. Nice little team in NOH now, Dragic/KMart/Odom/Scola/Okafor, 6th Ariza

[TD 21]

Wow. Crazy trade. Nice little team in NOH now, Dragic/KMart/Odom/Scola/Okafor, 6th Ariza

Yeah, if the goal is to be a perennial 7th-10th seed, with no shot at winning a playoff series.

How Rondo, Green, and two 1sts (one from the Clippers, top 10 protected) or Kaman, Aminu, Bledsoe and a 1st (Timberwolves unprotected 1st!) isn't a better package, I have no idea.

This looks as bad as the Gasol deal, if not worse. You've got the league owned Hornets accepting a package that makes no sense for them, helps out a big market team (Rockets) and the league's darlings/glamor franchise, the Lakers and likely paves the way for them to be relevant well into this decade after they acquire Howard.

The Lakers may not look great at the moment, but they will after they acquire Howard and Turkoglu. Say what you want about Turkoglu, as bad as he is, he's a clear upgrade over Walton/Caracter. And it's inevitable that a half decent veteran PF will sign their on the cheap as well.

[ElNono]

It's not just Bynum dealing with injuries... Paul himself has a history of knee problems...
Big gamble for LA... I think Gasol was their difference maker. Now he's gone.

[Splits]

They have no one to offer outside of Kobe. :lol

Manboobs and Metta World Peace, and they'll probably be able to shed Walton's contract in the process. The fix is in.

[Dex]

ItsRubenPaul Ruben Paul
Dear God, please please, please, don't let the Lakers get Dwight Howard" - Laker Haters & Entire NBA
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[Big P]

Orlando is dumb enough to trade D howard to the lakers for bynum.

[MannyIsGod]

LOL Competitive balance.

NBA owned team trades its superstar to the NBA's biggest market.

What a fucking joke.

[MaNu4Tres]

Word is Lakers may get Okafor as well in the trade. :shootme

Howard- Okafor- Artest- Kobe- Paul.... Really? The NBA is a cheat.

[Mugen]

lol well that lockout was absolutely pointless.

[The ADMIRAL 50]

As long as Okafor isn't involved this a shitty trade for LA. Just traded away their strength, size.

Now if they somehow get Dwight too? Then the league is gonna be fucked. Orlando has to do better than Bynum and scrubs though.

Also: LOL @ Mike Brown spending all summer modeling the LA offense after our twin towers.

[acoelho1]

Not sure how this a bad trade for the Lakers. You trade Gasol (31) and Odom (32) for arguably the best point guard in the league and he is only 26 yrs old.

[Splits]

Word is Lakers may get Okafor as well in the trade. :shootme

Howard- Okafor- World Peace- Kobe- Paul.... Really? The NBA is a cheat.

fify

[Nathan89]

If they get Howard.:smchode:

[Buddy Holly]

Not sure how this a bad trade for the Lakers. You trade Gasol (31) and Odom (32) for arguably the best point guard in the league and he is only 26 yrs old.

Because they traded 7 feet and nearly 7 feet for less than 6 feet. :lol

[Buddy Holly]

If they get Howard.:smchode:

They're not.

[Drewlius]

Yeah, if the goal is to be a perennial 7th-10th seed, with no shot at winning a playoff series.

Doubt that's the goal? It's clearly light-years ahead of Paul/Ariza/Pondexter/Anderson/Okafor

[Nathan89]

They're not.

I hope not. I don't think they should be able to with what they have left but in the NBA anything is possible especially for the Lakers.

[Buddy Holly]

I hope not. I don't think they should be able to with what they have left but in the NBA anything is possible especially for the Lakers.

Other teams can offer more than just Bynum and trash.

[DPG21920]

They're not.

They most definitely have a shot at it.

[DeadlyDynasty]

:)

[mudyez]

I hope not. I don't think they should be able to with what they have left but in the NBA anything is possible especially for the Lakers.

to say the truth: I dont care that much...I would like to see Paul+Howard playing on one team...and San Antonio wont compete for the forseeable future anyway...rather have LA win 5 more ships, than seeing Miami win one!

btw: Sean Eliott


;)

[DPG21920]

Yeah, if the goal is to be a perennial 7th-10th seed, with no shot at winning a playoff series.

How Rondo, Green, and two 1sts (one from the Clippers, top 10 protected) or Kaman, Aminu, Bledsoe and a 1st (Timberwolves unprotected 1st!) isn't a better package, I have no idea.

This looks as bad as the Gasol deal, if not worse. You've got the league owned Hornets accepting a package that makes no sense for them, helps out a big market team (Rockets) and the league's darlings/glamor franchise, the Lakers and likely paves the way for them to be relevant well into this decade after they acquire Howard.

The Lakers may not look great at the moment, but they will after they acquire Howard and Turkoglu. Say what you want about Turkoglu, as bad as he is, he's a clear upgrade over Walton/Caracter. And it's inevitable that a half decent veteran PF will sign their on the cheap as well.

This is 100% on and it makes no damn sense for NO. None. I can see why Houston does. I see why LA does it because in giving up Pau instead of Bynum there is a good chance they get Dwight.

But NO got shit. This is akin to a fantasy trade between the first place team and last place team that makes enough sense talent wise not to be vetoed, but serves no purpose but to let the first place team fine tune their team.

If NO was a publicly traded stock, shareholder lawsuits would be flying because they did not serve our best interest.

[mudyez]

wtf? no more luck the fakers??? :(

[ThePop]

Other teams can offer more than just Bynum and trash.

Like the Spurs? http://th591.photobucket.com/albums/ss357/ShellyToonie/th_pray.gif

[Buddy Holly]

:)

lol at you being happy your biggest strength is now non existent.

And your coach is mike brown... :lol

[Buddy Holly]

Like the Spurs? http://th591.photobucket.com/albums/ss357/ShellyToonie/th_pray.gif

Well, New Jersey and LAC.

[baseline bum]

How Rondo, Green, and two 1sts (one from the Clippers, top 10 protected) or Kaman, Aminu, Bledsoe and a 1st (Timberwolves unprotected 1st!) isn't a better package, I have no idea.

The Clippers pulled that offer when Paul wouldn't commit to signing an extension.

[NASpurs]

lol well that lockout was absolutely pointless.

The lockout was just smoke screen to write the script for the next couple of years. Seems like the first chapter already took place with this trade.

:wakeup

[DPG21920]

How the hell are you NO and trading Paul and not even get the best player in the deal back :lol?

You are a team like NO and you are trading CP3 you need 3 things back:

1)Draft picks
2)expiring deals
3)young talent

They guys they got fit none of that criteria. So NO gets guys that won't help them contend now, that have no future long term, get 1 pick and have little shot at rebuilding. Awesome.

If it comes out that LA got Okafor as well.........

[timvp]

The NBA cuts out the middleman and deals directly with the Lakers.

smh

[Nathan89]

to say the truth: I dont care that much...I would like to see Paul+Howard playing on one team...and San Antonio wont compete for the forseeable future anyway...rather have LA win 5 more ships, than seeing Miami win one!

btw: Sean Eliott


;)

I rather have Lebron win than Kobe win more.

[Big P]

Other teams can offer more than just Bynum and trash.

If Dwight wants to play in la and only in la...they'll take bynum and trash.

[2Cleva]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FCZwfyr33wM/TRArWMrn1HI/AAAAAAAAT4I/Z_ntLxyJnPM/s640/Haters-Gonna-Hate-Gif-6.gif

Wow! What a day!

[Josepatches_]

I rather have Lebron win than Kobe win more.

[Mugen]

if you guys think that CP3 got traded for garbage, wait til you see what the best big man in the league gets traded for in a couple of days...

"competitive balance" :lmao

[Buddy Holly]

If Dwight want to play in la and only in la...they'll take bynum and trash.

No they won't. They'll trade him to a team with better pieces and let them deal with an extension.

[Nathan89]

If Dwight want to play in la and only in la...they'll take bynum and trash.

If I was a gm I would literally let a player walk before I guaranteed another team championships. It's not like Bynum is going to lead your team. They just need to find a team that will risk not getting him to resign. Like the Nets did with Dwill. Oh wait the Nets want Howard.

[Mel_13]

This is 100% on and it makes no damn sense for NO. None. I can see why Houston does. I see why LA does it because in giving up Pau instead of Bynum there is a good chance they get Dwight.

But NO got shit. This is akin to a fantasy trade between the first place team and last place team that makes enough sense talent wise not to be vetoed, but serves no purpose but to let the first place team fine tune their team.

If NO was a publicly traded stock, shareholder lawsuits would be flying because they did not serve our best interest.

:lol

Good analogy


How the hell are you NO and trading Paul and not even get the best player in the deal back :lol?

You are a team like NO and you are trading CP3 you need 3 things back:

1)Draft picks
2)expiring deals
3)young talent

They guys they got fit none of that criteria. So NO gets guys that won't help them contend now, that have no future long term, get 1 pick and have little shot at rebuilding. Awesome.

If it comes out that LA got Okafor as well.........

Largely agree.

They are, however, getting NY's 2012 first rounder and Odom's contract is practically an expiring deal (only 2.4M of 8.2M for 2012-13 is guaranteed).

All-in-all, not the collection of assets that you would expect NO to seek.

[DPG21920]

In looking at this, I don't see how Okafor was not included in the deal. SMH. NO getting 31M in salary, only sending out 16M per reports. Even w/ West renounced, someone else has to be included.

So replacing Okafor w/ Scola = wash (if indeed true)

So really it's Dragic/Odom/Kevin Martin :lmao

[Mugen]

No they won't. They'll trade him to a team with better pieces and let them deal with an extension.

Why would a team deal for Dwight without an extension already agreed upon?

The sooner you accept the league is rigged to put the big market teams in the best position to win, the easier it is to understand when BS deals like these go down.

:toast

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

If Orlando is smart they'll send Dwight to New Jersey.

[Mugen]

In looking at this, I don't see how Okafor was not included in the deal. SMH. NO getting 31M in salary, only sending out 16M per reports. Even w/ West renounced, someone else has to be included.

So replacing Okafor w/ Scola = wash (if indeed true)

So really it's Dragic/Odom/Kevin Martin :lmao

looks like the lakers are gonna get a big trade exception out of it.

if the Magic end up trading Dwight for Glass knees/capspace/and a late first round pick...... :lmao ridiculous

[benefactor]

If Orlando is smart they'll send Dwight to New Jersey.
No doubt. Lopez>>>Bynum.

[mudyez]

If Dwight want to play in la and only in la...they'll take bynum and trash.

Actually I thing one more year of a disgruntled D12 is better than having an injuryprone Bynum for several years...
...and in 7 months the world could look totally different (e.g. Paul blows his knee out, therefore making the Lakers not attractive anymore) and you may get a nice sign and trade with Chicago or the Clippers.

[Nathan89]

If Orlando is smart they'll send Dwight to New Jersey.

Considering you still have to compete with the team you trade Howard to yes. Also they can put a great offer on the table.

[MannyIsGod]

No they won't. They'll trade him to a team with better pieces and let them deal with an extension.

Yes, because some team is just going to trade for Dwight without having the extension locked up. :lol:lol:lol

[timvp]

Now that Jerry West works for the Warriors, keep one eye there. Some type of three-team deal that lands Chandler in GS and Howard in LAL would shock no one but myopic Laker Fan.

[2Cleva]

No doubt. Lopez>>>Bynum.

Please. Lopez only gets his numbers because he doesn't have to share the post with anyone. And he plays no d and doesn't rebound. Bank on 20-10 from Bynum with CP3 setting him up and no Pau to take touches from him.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Yes, because some team is just going to trade for Dwight without having the extension locked up. :lol:lol:lol

New Jersey has done some crazy things before, may happen again.

[Mugen]

Please. Lopez only gets his numbers because he doesn't have to share the post with anyone. And he plays no d and doesn't rebound. Bank on 20-10 from Bynum with CP3 setting him up and no Pau to take touches from him.

assuming they dont get D12, Bynums 20-10 is gonna be real sweet for the 25 games he actually plays.

[mudyez]

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
Emeka Okafor may be heading to Los Angeles as well. Still trying to figure out all of the details.
2 minutes ago

[Jelloisjigglin]

They're not.

After the Gasol trade, anything goes.
tee,hee

[mudyez]

Bynum+Okafor for Howard and Turk???

[024]

Now that Jerry West works for the Warriors, keep one eye there. Some type of three-team deal that lands Chandler in GS and Howard in LAL would shock no one but myopic Laker Fan.
:vomit:

[timvp]

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
Emeka Okafor may be heading to Los Angeles as well. Still trying to figure out all of the details.

*prepares for Luke Walton for Trevor Ariza to somehow be added to the mix*

[NASpurs]

Los Angeles Clippers?

[mudyez]

lol...lockout...lol owners...lol stern.

...if NO or HOU have to make such bad trades, it says everything about parity.

if ORL has to do too, the league is done.

[DeadlyDynasty]

The Lakers traded 2 versatile and championship bigs for a PG with knee problems...not a good move by itself.

Now the Magic are in the unenviable position of having to settle for something or nothing for D12. If the Lakers are the only team he'll sign an.extension with, then wouldn't it be prudent for Orlando to take Bynum instead of nothing?

It's just business.

[mudyez]

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy:
I just spoke to an Eastern Conference player about Paul to L.A. and Chandler to N.Y. He jokingly said, "It's over. I'm quitting basketball."

-->whiny bitch, LeBron!

[Banzai]

Are the Spurs looking at David West?

[Nathan89]

Bynum+Okafor for Howard and Turk???

Okafor has a worse contract than Turk.

[Mel_13]

The Lakers traded 2 versatile and championship bigs for a PG with knee problems...not a good move by itself.

Now the Magic are in the unenviable position of having to settle for something or nothing for D12. If the Lakers are the only team he'll sign an.extension with, then wouldn't it be prudent for Orlando to take Bynum instead of nothing?

It's just business.

He's not signing an extension anywhere. Neither will Paul or Williams. They're all going to opt out this summer.

[mudyez]

The Lakers traded 2 versatile and championship bigs for a PG with knee problems...not a good move by itself.

Now the Magic are in the unenviable position of having to settle for something or nothing for D12. If the Lakers are the only team he'll sign an.extension with, then wouldn't it be prudent for Orlando to take Bynum instead of nothing?

It's just business.

That is true....but after all, it is Orlando. The team that lost Shaq to them as well...The team, that got beat by them in the finals.

Could see them rather wait it out, even with D12 helping LA with the extension stuff.
Its not a sure thing that D12 wont change his mind come next offseason...after all, he would earn some more with a sign and trade too and going to e.g. Chicago would give him a nice team and more money and ORL some better pieces.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell Y! Sports.wut

[Mugen]

hold up ehhhhhhh (RIP nate dogg)

@ESPNSteinLine (http://twitter.com/#%21/ESPNSteinLine) Marc Stein
ESPN CP3 trade latest: Trade with Lakers will NOT go through Friday and Chris Paul is expected in Hornets camp, according to sources

[Russ]

Now that Jerry West works for the Warriors, keep one eye there. Some type of three-team deal that lands Chandler in GS and Howard in LAL would shock no one but myopic Laker Fan.

Jerry is an advance man for the Lakers. His next job is wherever young talent can be raided.

[DPG21920]

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
Emeka Okafor may be heading to Los Angeles as well. Still trying to figure out all of the details.
2 minutes ago

Shocking!! Didn't just say that. This is f*cking unreal.

[MaNu4Tres]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell Y! Sports.

Where was this with the Gasol deal in 08'?

[Nathan89]

The Lakers traded 2 versatile and championship bigs for a PG with knee problems...not a good move by itself.

Now the Magic are in the unenviable position of having to settle for something or nothing for D12. If the Lakers are the only team he'll sign an.extension with, then wouldn't it be prudent for Orlando to take Bynum instead of nothing?

It's just business.

If it's business then you don't want to make a competitor better than you will ever be.

Also why would the Magic make the trade now and not at the trade deadline?

[mudyez]

Okafor has a worse contract than Turk.

didnt say, there is some sense in all of it ;)

after all, its the NBA...post lockout..l:bang

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Owners were irate in Board of Governors meeting with Stern, livid that the league-owned Hornets were allowed to make Paul deal, sources say.

[DarkGinobili]

hold up ehhhhhhh (RIP nate dogg)

@ESPNSteinLine (http://twitter.com/#%21/ESPNSteinLine) Marc Stein
ESPN CP3 trade latest: Trade with Lakers will NOT go through Friday and Chris Paul is expected in Hornets camp, according to sources


LOL :lol:lol

[Russ]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell Y! Sports.

Pop's "committee" in action?

[Nathan89]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell Y! Sports.

Where was this with the Gasol deal in 08'?

I hope. I pray.

[MaNu4Tres]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Owners were irate in Board of Governors meeting with Stern, livid that the league-owned Hornets were allowed to make Paul deal, sources say.

[Mel_13]

Owners were irate in Board of Governors meeting with Stern, livid that the league-owned Hornets were allowed to make Paul deal, sources say.

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

[024]

i kind of hope this deal goes through and have the lakers resting all their hopes on bynum's knee.

[MannyIsGod]

Conflict of interest.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I can live with them nixing this deal, tbh. As long as dwight is a laker this year or next all is well.

[Mel_13]

This stuff is more exciting than the NBA regular season.

[mudyez]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell Y! Sports.

Where was this with the Gasol deal in 08'?

lol...after all the 29teams own the Hornets...Buss owned West which owned the Grizzlies in '08...big difference!

guess the miami owner called for veto! :lol

[mudyez]

This stuff is more exciting than the NBA regular season.

:rollin

...but true!

its 3am and I cant go to sleep right now.

[024]

i agree that the hornets shouldn't be making any blockbuster deals while still owned by the NBA. but this wasn't a one sided trade like the grizzlies, it's actually pretty even and the lakers are taking a huge risk.

[mudyez]

would be great, if the other owners force NO to ride out Paul this season.

classic comedy esecially if they play the Lakers!

[Mel_13]

The NBA is now pushing New Orleans GM Dell Demps to pull the plug on the trade and keep Chris Paul, league sources tell Y! Sports.

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

[DeadlyDynasty]

i agree that the hornets shouldn't be making any blockbuster deals while still owned by the NBA. but this wasn't a one sided trade like the grizzlies, it's actually pretty even and the lakers are taking a huge risk.

This is true.

[Nathan89]

i agree that the hornets shouldn't be making any blockbuster deals while still owned by the NBA. but this wasn't a one sided trade like the grizzlies, it's actually pretty even and the lakers are taking a huge risk.

I'd be fine with this deal if it didn't leave the possibility of getting Howard on the table. If they want this to go down Bynum needs to go.

[Mugen]

frankly, a league not rigged for the lakers is a league i do not wish to be a fan of

[024]

lol no deal.

[NASpurs]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Owners were irate in Board of Governors meeting with Stern, livid that the league-owned Hornets were allowed to make Paul deal, sources say.

:lmao

Pop wanted a check and balance system put in place for crazy Lakers' deals.

[Sense]

I'm not happy about the plug being pulled on this deal, now the Spurs NEED a big :lol

[ChumpDumper]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell Y! Sports.

Where was this with the Gasol deal in 08'?The league didn't own the Grizzlies.

[Mugen]

i agree that the hornets shouldn't be making any blockbuster deals while still owned by the NBA. but this wasn't a one sided trade like the grizzlies, it's actually pretty even and the lakers are taking a huge risk.

but how would you feel when the lakers turnaround and flip ManBoobs and a late first rounder for Dwight Howard?

[Mel_13]

The NBA has killed the proposed deal to send Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources tell Yahoo! Sports.

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

[timvp]

If you are Dell Demps, how do you trade away CP3 for a package that keeps you mediocre? Either keep CP3 and try to win or trade him for pieces you can rebuild with. I mean, damn, at least keep Gasol instead of flipping him for players who might not even be worth their contracts.

[Russo21]

Yeah i just read to that the deal has been stalled. Noooo. I was really hoping it'd go through i thought it was official when i started the thread, ugh :(

[024]

but how would you feel when the lakers turnaround and flip ManBoobs and a late first rounder for Dwight Howard?
orlando has other problems like trying to find someone to take arenas and hedo's contracts. they'll have to package howard so i don't know if the lakers have enough for that. they might have enough now that the NO deal is dead..

[Mugen]

lol imagine mike brown having to walk into that shitstorm of a training camp tomorrow. Mike fucking brown :lmao

[timvp]

http://twitter.com/#!/ReggieEvans30/status/144963040910131200

Looks like Reggie Evans posts at ST.

[mudyez]

via Twitter:
CP3 Chris Paul
WoW
8 minutes ago

...lol...guess he is playing world of warcraft right now...:)

[mudyez]

lol imagine mike brown having to walk into that shitstorm of a training camp tomorrow. Mike fucking brown :lmao

:lol

[DPG21920]

http://twitter.com/#!/ReggieEvans30/status/144963040910131200

Looks like Reggie Evans posts at ST.

:lmao That is hilarious.

[benefactor]

http://twitter.com/#!/ReggieEvans30/status/144963040910131200

Looks like Reggie Evans posts at ST.
:lol

[katuso]

lol imagine mike brown having to walk into that shitstorm of a training camp tomorrow. Mike fucking brown :lmao

:downspin::downspin:

[MaNu4Tres]

http://twitter.com/#!/ReggieEvans30/status/144963040910131200

Looks like Reggie Evans posts at ST.

:lol

[Mel_13]

Stern kills Lakers’ deal for Paul

NBA commissioner David Stern has killed the New Orleans Hornets’ trade of Chris Paul after several owners complained about the league-owned team dealing the All-Star point guard to the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Some owners pushed Stern to demand that trade be nullified, and the Hornets be made to keep Paul on the roster for the foreseeable future, sources said. A chorus of owners were irate with the belief that the five-month lockout had happened largely to stop big-market teams from leveraging small-market teams for star players pending free agency.

All the players involved in the trade have been told to report to their teams for the start of training camp on Friday.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Al7tH5RyB56dA_Yra3dXbW68vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_chris_paul_lakers_hornets_nba_120811

[ElNono]

http://twitter.com/#!/ReggieEvans30/status/144963040910131200

Looks like Reggie Evans posts at ST.

His nickname here is Stalin, tbh

[timvp]

If this Stern revocation stands, you know this is what will happen:

Chris Paul's knee explodes and then the Hornets and their fans are pissed for the rest of their natural lives that Stern ruined their franchise.

Guaransheed.

[Russ]

Stern kills Lakers’ deal for Paul
All the players involved in the trade have been told to report to their teams for the start of training camp on Friday.

Friday? A decent interval?

[DarkGinobili]

http://twitter.com/#!/ReggieEvans30/status/144963040910131200 (http://twitter.com/#%21/ReggieEvans30/status/144963040910131200)

Looks like Reggie Evans posts at ST.

:rollin

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
All along, the league office had allowed the Hornets to negotiate the Chris Paul trade without interference, sources said. And then, this.Very good point.

[Seventyniner]

Stern tried to get this one through, but the owners shot it down. Lakers vs. Lakers NBA Finals may not happen now.

[timvp]

Dell Demps just got neutered. Might as well just quit after this embarrassment.

[024]

the deal may have been fair on the laker's side but i think NO definitely got saved. trading CP3 for odom, martin, and scola? lol.

[mudyez]

Dell Demps just got neutered. Might as well just quit after this embarrassment.

We will see it as just another David Stern middlefinger toward a (former) Spur.

[mudyez]

funny thing: in the 90s I called every player that didnt do anything in the league and wouldnt be there for long "Dell Demps"
...not sure, why it was him and not one of the other hundred guys which fit that bill (probably the comic book name), but I'm happy to see him back!

[Mugen]

i agree that the hornets shouldn't be making any blockbuster deals while still owned by the NBA. but this wasn't a one sided trade like the grizzlies, it's actually pretty even and the lakers are taking a huge risk.


the deal may have been fair on the laker's side but i think NO definitely got saved. trading CP3 for odom, martin, and scola? lol.

:wtf

[Sense]

the deal may have been fair on the laker's side but i think NO definitely got saved. trading CP3 for odom, martin, and scola? lol.

fair?

Laker fans are rejoicing.. if anything the owners helped the Lakers...


it's CP3 for Odom, Martin, Scola, Dragic, and a first round pick...

[mudyez]

Steve Kyler – 12/08/2011 9:18pm EST

Apparently Lamar Odom wasn’t the only one brought to tears over the news that the LA Lakers were on the eve of acquiring Chris Paul from the Hornets.

Apparently Laker forward Lamar Odom called into ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith’s radio show and broke down crying after the news broke he was headed to New Orleans as part of the deal.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/2011-nba-free-agency-diary/

An additional wrinkle surfaced regarding the mechanics of the deal as reported, mainly that New Orleans would not have enough cap space to absorb all of the contracts it would be taking on.

[024]

:wtf
fair for the lakers as they are taking a lot of risk. but NO isn't getting odom and gasol back, they flipped gasol for worse players.

[kjhip1]

Steve Kyler – 12/08/2011 9:18pm EST

Apparently Lamar Odom wasn’t the only one brought to tears over the news that the LA Lakers were on the eve of acquiring Chris Paul from the Hornets.

Apparently Laker forward Lamar Odom called into ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith’s radio show and broke down crying after the news broke he was headed to New Orleans as part of the deal.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/2011-nba-free-agency-diary/

An additional wrinkle surfaced regarding the mechanics of the deal as reported, mainly that New Orleans would not have enough cap space to absorb all of the contracts it would be taking on.


:rollin:rollin:rollin

[NASpurs]

Steve Kyler – 12/08/2011 9:18pm EST

Apparently Lamar Odom wasn’t the only one brought to tears over the news that the LA Lakers were on the eve of acquiring Chris Paul from the Hornets.

Apparently Laker forward Lamar Odom called into ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith’s radio show and broke down crying after the news broke he was headed to New Orleans as part of the deal.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/2011-nba-free-agency-diary/

An additional wrinkle surfaced regarding the mechanics of the deal as reported, mainly that New Orleans would not have enough cap space to absorb all of the contracts it would be taking on.

I had to click on that link to make sure it was true. It is :lmao :lmao

[024]

fair?

Laker fans are rejoicing.. if anything the owners helped the Lakers...


it's CP3 for Odom, Martin, Scola, Dragic, and a first round pick...
if i were a laker fan, i would want this deal to go down even if it means sacrificing the next season. practically locking in the best PG in the league for the next 5-6 years is always worth sacrificing a season or two. the lakers would have a clear future after kobe.

[dknights411]

Might as well save this for posterity.

http://instagr.am/p/YCVL4/media/?size=l

[DazedAndConfused]

1) League takes an enormous credibility hit. It looks unorganized, amateurish, petty, and rigged. It moves even further away from being perceived as sport and closer to being on par with pro wrestling.

2) Alienates and turns off a large number of fans. This really leaves a bad taste in my mouth and makes me less of a fan whether I want to be or not. I am hardly the only one to feel this way

[ElNono]

League took a credibility hit when they acquired the Hornets. This is a byproduct of that.

[timvp]

This will somehow work out in the Lakers favor. Kobe is bulletproof.

[Mugen]

i guess people are forgetting the deal that would have inevitably went down after this: D12 for Bynum/fillers.

make no mistake, this wasn't just a veto on the CP3 trade, it was a veto for the absolute bullshit deal the Lakers would have eventually pulled off with the Magic. props for the owners.

not sure how trading your franchise player for 2 PFs in their 30s plus role players like Martin/Dragic was a steal for the Hornets.

[024]

This will somehow work out in the Lakers favor. Kobe is bulletproof.
if the lakers get howard now for bynum + odom.....

[Mugen]

this will somehow work out in the lakers favor. Stern is bulletproof.

fify

[mudyez]

1) League takes an enormous credibility hit. It looks unorganized, amateurish, petty, and rigged. It moves even further away from being perceived as sport and closer to being on par with pro wrestling.

2) Alienates and turns off a large number of fans. This really leaves a bad taste in my mouth and makes me less of a fan whether I want to be or not. I am hardly the only one to feel this way

I agree on all of that!

But its still really funny and you are just some bitter person!

[DPG21920]

fair?

Laker fans are rejoicing.. if anything the owners helped the Lakers...


it's CP3 for Odom, Martin, Scola, Dragic, and a first round pick...

Which does what? Gets them nothing different really than if they let Paul walk for free.

Getting those guys doesn't allow them to rebuild, doesn't allow them to truly contend, doesn't save money. It's a terrible deal.

[Em-City]

http://static.bbmp3.com/smilies/smug_russell.gif

[Fabbs]

Now that Jerry West works for the Warriors, keep one eye there. Some type of three-team deal that lands Chandler in GS and Howard in LAL would shock no one but myopic Laker Fan.
10-4.

With all this talk of SmelL-A / New Sternleans attempting to pull their scam, what was Houston pilfered with?
Kevin Martin 23 ppg
Lewie Scola very solid if not spectacular
Dragic (very impressive vs Spurs)
1st round pic via the perennial sucky Knicks

All for declining Gasol? :nope

[objective]

thank god the owners stopped Stern's collusion.

There's two other rumored deals that destroy this one as far as being good for the Hornets.

Boston's offer of Rondo, Green, and 2 firsts with slaughters this crapfest. Rondo is a young all-star who is under contract for this year plus 3 more.

Golden State's supposed offer of Curry, Udoh and filler also destroys this deal.

Dell Demps = disgrace

[GB20]

haha this shit is going to mess up every plans the lakers had in mind.

[Mel_13]

Dell Demps just got neutered. Might as well just quit after this embarrassment.

NBA spokesman Tim Frank: "League office declined to make the trade for basketball reasons."

Quite the vote of confidence.

[GB20]

hahah i just heard that jerry buss had a heart attack






























just kidding!!!

[mudyez]

quick...the league has to buy the magic NOW!

[NASpurs]

@ESPNSteinLine (http://twitter.com/#%21/ESPNSteinLine) Marc Stein


Our own @Chris_Broussard (http://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard) on SportsCenter: Chris Paul fuming and exploring legal options w/NBPA director Billy Hunter to fight blocked deal



We know drama indeed.

[Spurminator]

Where was this veto in 2008?

[ChumpDumper]

1) League takes an enormous credibility hit. It looks unorganized, amateurish, petty, and rigged. It moves even further away from being perceived as sport and closer to being on par with pro wrestling.

2) Alienates and turns off a large number of fans. This really leaves a bad taste in my mouth and makes me less of a fan whether I want to be or not. I am hardly the only one to feel this wayAre you talking about the first Gasol trade?

I agree.

[mudyez]

Where was this veto in 2008?

Problem is the NBA owning the NOH now.
Grizzlies where the lakers farm team in '08.

[slick'81]

League took a credibility hit when they acquired the Hornets. This is a byproduct of that.


no doubt pathetic

[slick'81]

oh the drama lol

[letmk]

As a Spurs fan, for this trade only, I actually would like to see the Lakers pull it off. However, if getting Paul means getting Howard with shit, then sure we are happy for it to get shot down.

[rascal]

Shitty move by the Lakers in my oppinion. They trade 2 of their 3 headed frontline monster for Chris Paul. Chris is awesome but they've gone from having the biggest and best frontline in the NBA to having just often injured Andrew Bynum on the frontline? Now the Lakers have the best backcourt in the NBA but if Bynum goes down as usual they are fucked in the middle. So i think it's good for the other teams in the NBA.

Although i have been hearing rumblings they're wanting to dangle Bynum for Dwight Howard? Orlando would be stupid to do that they could do heaps better for him. But if that went down then we'd be fucked lol. If that doesnt go down then Paul for Gasol/Odom is good news for the rest of the league. Good job Lakers:lol

This was the first move. The Lakers had plans to make other moves to upgrade the frontline. I wouldn't be surprised if Howard also landed with the Lakers after Paul.

[kjhip1]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSpyycj-v-RyQ979LXOG6Q-FXczatrq-D-Vcy1YifCY9A_a4-jw http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGsYI17ttBGUyItgi0NCkNEtBZQDGJN _212_kGgksfnpUSb7WE

[Duncan2177]

Chris Paul will not report to training camp tomorrow, and will take this up with the union./ESPN

[MannyIsGod]

First thing I thought about when this came out was lawsuit. I think the courts will side with the Lakers and CP3 but maybe not.

[Dex]

:lmao :lmao :lmao Chris Paul acting like a little bitch. What else is new?

[Buddy Holly]

First thing I thought about when this came out was lawsuit. I think the courts will side with the Lakers and CP3 but maybe not.

A court would side with the NBA. The NBA owns the Hornets. They have every right to nix a trade. Paul is just ass hurt.

[rascal]

First thing I thought about when this came out was lawsuit. I think the courts will side with the Lakers and CP3 but maybe not.

Agree. Paul may still land with the Lakers.

[DarkGinobili]

LOL Paul

:rollin:rollin

[Buddy Holly]

On what grounds would Paul sue?

[slick'81]

On what grounds would Paul sue?


ass hurts

[NZ Spurs]

First thing I thought about when this came out was lawsuit. I think the courts will side with the Lakers and CP3 but maybe not.

Citing precedent?

[Mel_13]

First thing I thought about when this came out was lawsuit. I think the courts will side with the Lakers and CP3 but maybe not.

I think a court would dismiss any claim on the grounds that disputes about player transactions should be decided according to rules in the collective bargaining agreement.

[DPG21920]

First thing I thought about when this came out was lawsuit. I think the courts will side with the Lakers and CP3 but maybe not.

I don't see how. People can back out of trades all the time. It was an owner decision.

[rascal]

The NBA wants 3 or 4 super teams loaded with star power from the big markets/tradition Lakers, Knicks, Bulls, Boston, Miami(already loaded up last year) . That would draw the best ratings.

If the NBA wants Paul with the lakers then they will work it out that he goes there.

[Buddy Holly]

The NBA wants 3 or 4 super teams loaded with star power from the big markets/tradition Lakers, Knicks, Bulls, Boston, Miami(already loaded up last year) . That would draw the best ratings.

Then why did Stern nix this deal? :lol

Try another asinine statement.

[rascal]

Then why did Stern nix this deal? :lol

Try another asinine statement.

It was too obvious. They will make another deal.

[benefactor]

1) League takes an enormous credibility hit. It looks unorganized, amateurish, petty, and rigged. It moves even further away from being perceived as sport and closer to being on par with pro wrestling.

2) Alienates and turns off a large number of fans. This really leaves a bad taste in my mouth and makes me less of a fan whether I want to be or not. I am hardly the only one to feel this way
America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.

Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat.

[Buddy Holly]

It was too obvious. They will make another deal.

Too obvious? Ok... :lol

[DJ Mbenga]

this deal was rumored this morning right or conceived likely last night. wonder if stern waited until they signed the new cba. if they had vetoed the deal the players and more than likely the owners would have blown it up and gone full lockout again

[rascal]

Then why did Stern nix this deal? :lol

Try another asinine statement.

It is common knowledge that the NBA wants super teams in the big market cities.

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
To listen to the GM's, coaches, players, agents reaching out to me tonight: I think the NBA has changed forever with Stern's act tonight.

[TD 21]

1) League takes an enormous credibility hit. It looks unorganized, amateurish, petty, and rigged. It moves even further away from being perceived as sport and closer to being on par with pro wrestling.

2) Alienates and turns off a large number of fans. This really leaves a bad taste in my mouth and makes me less of a fan whether I want to be or not. I am hardly the only one to feel this way

It doesn't look great, but you know what? I don't blame them. Why should they stand back and let the Lakers form another potential dynasty? It's bullshit. No other franchise in North American pro sports has conveniently been saved every time the future looked bleak.

They'll take a PR hit for this, but who cares, it's about doing what's best for the league. To come out of the lockout and immediately have Paul traded to the Lakers (in a trade that makes no sense for the Hornets, no less), with Howard sure to follow, would look even worse.

Lakers fans are akin to a spoiled rich kid being told no for the first time. "You mean you're not going to hand us the best C and arguably the best PG in the game on a silver platter and keep us relevant for the majority of this decade? How could this happen? It's our birthright to never fade into obscurity".

Wojnarowski, Broussard, Smith and all of the other Bryant ass kissers in the media will probably throw a fit over this. This was their final chance for their beloved Bryant to have a shot to pass Jordan in rings.

[Spursfan092120]

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/emotionless2007/cpflop.gif

[Mugen]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
To listen to the GM's, coaches, players, agents reaching out to me tonight: I think the NBA has changed forever with Stern's act tonight.

Finally, some good news.

[Mel_13]

Lakers fans are akin to a spoiled rich kid being told no for the first time.

:lol

[DesignatedT]

Mike_Bresnahan Mike Bresnahan
Odom unhappy, tells The Times he might skip first day of camp b/c "You don't want to go no place you're not wanted." bit.ly/rTOKu2


:lmao

[Mel_13]

Dell Demps or Mike Brown?

Who had a crappier night?

[benefactor]

Odom is twice the woman his wife will ever be.

[mudyez]

odom is such a whine baby...not that thats news

[kjhip1]

http://www.soraspy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/mikebrown.jpg

Smooth Customer

[DPG21920]

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/jjutd/Odom.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/jjutd/Me.jpg

[Amarelooms]

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/jjutd/Odom.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/jjutd/Me.jpg

lol trying to stir the pot son....tell him he should demand a trade

:elephant

[mudyez]

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/jjutd/Odom.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/jjutd/Me.jpg

RealLamarOdom LAMAR ODOM
Im just going 2 stay positive and say thank u! The positive energy is what I live for and the negative energy I will just continue 2 eat!100

[benefactor]

:lol

[DesignatedT]

:lol

[kjhip1]

Lamar is getting heated (crying) on Twitter w/ people callin him out...

[DarkGinobili]

:lol

[mudyez]

cant wait to see odom beeing traded to sactown for a top50 protected second round pick, just do calm the locker room down.

[mudyez]

RealLamarOdom LAMAR ODOM
Gotta change code twitter jacked

...sure!!! :)...and the radio show as well!

[MannyIsGod]

To answer the people above, it looks as though the rest of the league basically told the hornets and lakers to fuck themselves because they could. I think thats pretty wrong in an association where these entities are supposed to be independent. Chris Paul has a right to be pissed, as the rest of the leauge - who does not employ him - screwed him pretty bad.

Obviously I'm not an expert and I don't know the details of the NBA operating the hornets and how independent the Hornets are supposed to be through this situation but what Stern did strikes me as wrong.

[stephen jackson]

i guess theres a reason they send trades to the nba office. this might happen ever so often

[DPG21920]

Having a league owned team is wrong and if anything should go to court, it's that.

[Manu20]

lol....What a shit storm....

thb the lakers this time around gave alot not like on 2008....

[baseline bum]

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/jjutd/Odom.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/jjutd/Me.jpg

:rollin :rollin :rollin

[DPG21920]

i guess theres a reason they send trades to the nba office. this might happen ever so often

No, they send trades in to be approved from a pure rules perspective. This was because it's a NBA owned team, which means the 29 other owners have part ownership of the Hornets and have a voice on how this goes.

[timvp]

Honestly, if I'm Stern, I let the trade go through but then demand no more trades until the team is sold. You can't undo a trade like that.

If this were a fantasy league, I'd be asking for my money back.

[Spursfanfromafar]

It looks damn messy this...The NBA vetoing NO's deal.. but their explanation - "basketball reasons" makes a lot of sense. NO weren't even dumping their bad contracts along with CP3. Nor were they getting any draft picks or decent expirings. They were getting a moody Kardashian, and two defenseless players in Scola and Martin. No effing way can anyone spin and say that this was a deal in NO's favor.

Everyone is looking at it and saying what a mess with the League Office intervening, but it was expected once the league got to own the Hornets. Demps has another day to wring out a better deal or else this goes kaput on his face and makes the Hornets even worse.

[ElNono]

Stolen from downstairs:

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/915689/CP-got-Stern_d_medium.gif

[DPG21920]

Honestly, if I'm Stern, I let the trade go through but then demand no more trades until the team is sold. You can't undo a trade like that.

If this were a fantasy league, I'd be asking for my money back.


.

But NO got shit. This is akin to a fantasy trade between the first place team and last place team that makes enough sense talent wise not to be vetoed, but serves no purpose but to let the first place team fine tune their team.



Except it would have been vetoed by the league.

[Mel_13]

To answer the people above, it looks as though the rest of the league basically told the hornets and lakers to fuck themselves because they could. I think thats pretty wrong in an association where these entities are supposed to be independent. Chris Paul has a right to be pissed, as the rest of the leauge - who does not employ him - screwed him pretty bad.

Obviously I'm not an expert and I don't know the details of the NBA operating the hornets and how independent the Hornets are supposed to be through this situation but what Stern did strikes me as wrong.

That's a big part of this mess. The other 29 teams own the Hornets and, at least in part, employ everyone in that organization.

I do agree that Stern has acted poorly here. If they were going limit Demps' authority to make player transactions, they should have done so in advance. Allowing him to negotiate with other teams and agents and then pulling this crap is just bad business.

[mudyez]

To answer the people above, it looks as though the rest of the league basically told the hornets and lakers to fuck themselves because they could. I think thats pretty wrong in an association where these entities are supposed to be independent. Chris Paul has a right to be pissed, as the rest of the leauge - who does not employ him - screwed him pretty bad.

Obviously I'm not an expert and I don't know the details of the NBA operating the hornets and how independent the Hornets are supposed to be through this situation but what Stern did strikes me as wrong.

they each own 1/29 of the Hornets!

[DarkGinobili]

Stolen from downstairs:

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/915689/CP-got-Stern_d_medium.gif

LOL LOL:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[baseline bum]

I honestly think New Orleans did pretty well in the proposed trade. Scola's a hell of a player, Martin is so-so, and Dragic could end up being a decent point. It's not like a team is ever going to get anything approaching equal value when they trade a top 10 player who wants out.

[kjhip1]

you'll gotta hear this:

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play?id=7333531

Lamar bitchin up and telling Stephen A Smith about his dreams...

[K-State Spur]

this deal was rumored this morning right or conceived likely last night. wonder if stern waited until they signed the new cba. if they had vetoed the deal the players and more than likely the owners would have blown it up and gone full lockout again

...and the players would have ended up with 48% just so that they could get Paul in LA.

[Whisky Dog]

The NBA, following this labor unrest and with still a ton of financial issues and a fan base that largely didn't miss the league since its been gone, is co
completely 100% desperate to get money and these nimrods feel stacking the deck for the big market teams will achieve that.

In all this time have they not learned anything from the NFL? The NFL has such a devoted following because any year any specific team can rise up. Even the notoriously shitty teams like the Bengals have a season where they can shine and get in the playoffs. Parity is what rules the day and keeps the fans interested yet the NBA is going in the opposite direction.

They should seriously just scrap the whole thing an start over

[MannyIsGod]

I'm not sure each team owns 1/29th of the Hornets right now. The NBA =! all the teams but a separate entity from each of the teams. Fuck I don't know though, it really depends on the framework of everything having to do with the Hornets and this fucked up situation.

Chris Paul definitely has a reason to be fucking pissed though.

[mudyez]

you'll gotta hear this:

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play?id=7333531

Lamar bitchin up and telling Stephen A Smith about his dreams...

I love it! I'll play a loop of it in the club!

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol....What a shit storm....

thb the lakers this time around gave alot not like on 2008....

giving alot while the only team that benefits from is the rockets, while NOH gets shit back from the rockets and buys 2-3 more years of being a mediocrity team...makes no sense for them, when its the rockets and lakers who gain the most.

NOH should keep their capspace then adding more shit to its payroll.

gasol = gasoft memphis led team = going nowhere
bynum = one knee man who cant even play the whole season
rockets roster = piece of shit that didnt even make the playoffs

[MannyIsGod]

League source on killed deal: "...(Stern) wasn't going to let Chris Paul dictate where he wanted to go."
(More) "In the end, David didn’t like that the players were dictating where they wanted to go," source says.

Per Wojo's twitter.

Fucking ridiculous.

[DPG21920]

What's ridiculous is taking a deal that makes no sense for your franchise and having a league owned team.

[DPG21920]

Real email from Dan Gilbert to Stern:


Commissioner,

It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.

I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.

When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

Dan G.

[timvp]

Commissioner,

It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.

I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.

When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

Dan G.







Fixed.

[mudyez]

Real email from Dan Gilbert to Stern:

no way, this is real.

[Mel_13]

no way, this is real.

Real:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-nba_dan_gilbert_email_lakers_hornets_trade_120811

[DPG21920]

Dan G making the trade look even more stupid :lol Demps should retire for being a dummy.

[DesignatedT]

It's real :lol

[MannyIsGod]

Commissioner,

It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.

I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.

When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

Dan G.







Fixed.


:lol:lol:lol

[thOOdee]

damn....i woulda welcomed this trade....pau i think still has the good days ahead and lamar is pretty versatile.....

[Nathan89]

And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard.

How the fuck do give of CP3 and not get every draft pick in the foreseeable future?

Props to Dan G.

[thOOdee]

plus i woulda loved to see kobe and paul implode

[LakerLanny]

Now the precedent has been set:

1. New Orleans must receive MORE than Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Lamar Odom, Goran Dragic and two draft picks (good luck getting anything close to that)

AND

2. Whoever ends up with CP3 needs to give up MORE than a Big Man who was an all star last season and has been an all star multiple times in his career and a guy who was NBA 6th Man of the Year (good luck with that)

If not, then it is clear this trade was only shut down because CP3 was going to the Lakers. Basically, Cuban's whining affects the future of three franchises and the NBA being rigged talk (which of course it is) only multiplies.

It will be a glorious day when David Stern dies. I look forward to it.

[DMC]

Sounds high as fuck.

[DMC]

Now the precedent has been set:

1. New Orleans must receive MORE than Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Lamar Odom, Goran Dragic and two draft picks (good luck getting anything close to that)

AND

2. Whoever ends up with CP3 needs to give up MORE than a Big Man who was an all star last season and has been an all star multiple times in his career and a guy who was NBA 6th Man of the Year (good luck with that)

If not, then it is clear this trade was only shut down because CP3 was going to the Lakers. Basically, Cuban's whining affects the future of three franchises and the NBA being rigged talk (which of course it is) only multiplies.

It will be a glorious day when David Stern dies. I look forward to it.
You should contact Stern and making him an offer he can't refuse. You're famous.

[LakerLanny]

You should contact Stern and making him an offer he can't refuse. You're famous.

That is your reply to my fact-filled post?

This board has gotten a lot worse in my absence, I need to check in more around here to keep the level of knowledge up.

Bro, do yourself a favor...don't bother responding to anything I post. You are clearly way out of your depth trying to talk basketball with me.

[ChumpDumper]

Now the precedent has been set:

1. New Orleans must receive MORE than Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Lamar Odom, Goran Dragic and two draft picks (good luck getting anything close to that)

AND

2. Whoever ends up with CP3 needs to give up MORE than a Big Man who was an all star last season and has been an all star multiple times in his career and a guy who was NBA 6th Man of the Year (good luck with that)

If not, then it is clear this trade was only shut down because CP3 was going to the Lakers. Basically, Cuban's whining affects the future of three franchises and the NBA being rigged talk (which of course it is) only multiplies.So you'll just bitch more. No change.


It will be a glorious day when David Stern dies. I look forward to it.Classy.

[Mel_13]

it is clear this trade was only shut down because CP3 was going to the Lakers.

Yes

[GSH]

Now the precedent has been set:

1. New Orleans must receive MORE than Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Lamar Odom, Goran Dragic and two draft picks (good luck getting anything close to that)

yada, yada, yada.


My first thought was to wonder why you immediately come here to post this. Aren't there enough places to piss in LA?

Second - if you think your team wasn't getting the best of the trade, why are you upset that it got denied?

Frankly, I don't think the Lakers would have improved by losing both Gasol and Odom in exchange for CP3, and I could almost sympathize with what you are saying. Almost. But you bastards have too much history of telling everyone else to quit whining, whenever something inexplicably goes in your favor. Just take your own advice and quit being such a whiny bitch. It happened - move on.

[LakerLanny]

My first thought was to wonder why you immediately come here to post this. Aren't there enough places to piss in LA?

Second - if you think your team wasn't getting the best of the trade, why are you upset that it got denied?

Frankly, I don't think the Lakers would have improved by losing both Gasol and Odom in exchange for CP3, and I could almost sympathize with what you are saying. Almost. But you bastards have too much history of telling everyone else to quit whining, whenever something inexplicably goes in your favor. Just take your own advice and quit being such a whiny bitch. It happened - move on.

I don't like the deal from LA from a basketball standpoint.

This is a bigger issue. Seperate your hate for the Lakers from this and imagine a scenario where you gave up say Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili for say Russell Westbrook. Then the league comes in and tell you it is a no go even though both teams wanted to do it and no one else would give anywhere close to that much for Westbrook. Would you find that upsetting?

I think you would.

This had nothing to do with the facts and everything to do with whiny owners like Dan Gilbert (just sell your team already, you have failed) and Mark Cuban (cheats in business, bends the rules) complaining solely because once again the Lakers (a well managed, winning organization) beat everyone to the punch. Fact.

[DPG21920]

hi mouse

[chazley]

Lakers will probably still end up getting Chris Paul. The backlash on this has been way too big.

[DPG21920]

Sure, let Dwight get traded to someone else first tho pls, k, thx

[Mel_13]

Stern really screwed the pooch on this one. No possible way for this to end well now.

[ChumpDumper]

This had nothing to do with the factsIt never does with lakerfan.

[GSH]

I don't like the deal from LA from a basketball standpoint.

This is a bigger issue. Seperate your hate for the Lakers from this and imagine a scenario where you gave up say Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili for say Russell Westbrook. Then the league comes in and tell you it is a no go even though both teams wanted to do it and no one else would give anywhere close to that much for Westbrook. Would you find that upsetting?

I think you would.

This had nothing to do with the facts and everything to do with whiny owners like Dan Gilbert (just sell your team already, you have failed) and Mark Cuban (cheats in business, bends the rules) complaining solely because once again the Lakers (a well managed, winning organization) beat everyone to the punch. Fact.


I told you, I don't think the trade necessarily made the Lakers better, which is the reason you believe it was denied. I do think there may be something to the idea that proposed trade was done with the thought of getting Dwight Howard into a Lakers jersey as well. It's probably not healthy for the league, as a whole, to concentrate that many of it's biggest stars into three big market teams. Without knowing all the back-side details, I'm not ready to jump to the conclusion that the ONLY reason it was denied was because Stern thought it would make the Lakers too good.

The rest of what I said, I meant. Lakers fans as a group (and players, for that matter) have made quite a habit of telling everyone else not to whine. It makes it hard to have any sympathy, even if you have been done wrong this time.

[Mel_13]

Danny Granger:

Due to the sabotaging of the LA/NO trade by david stern, and following in the footsteps of my athlete brethern Metta World Peace and Chad Ochocinco, I'm changing my last name to "Stern's Bi#&h" #effectiveimmediately

http://m.tmi.me/j9xgT

[TDMVPDPOY]

Stern really screwed the pooch on this one. No possible way for this to end well now.

he didnt screw up anything man

whether the other 29 owners had a say to demps doesnt mean much when whether to accept/decline trade was always on the NOH bargaining side, if the deal wasnt fair they can reject it and look at other possible trades...

sue the owners for tampering? if ur a boss and dont have a say in the management of ur team, then you deserve to fail when ur the one payin the bills. The problem here was they had 29 owners, if it went to a proxy voting who the trade wouldnt have gone through anyway...

[Mel_13]

he didnt screw up anything man

whether the other 29 owners had a say to demps doesnt mean much when whether to accept/decline trade was always on the NOH bargaining side, if the deal wasnt fair they can reject it and look at other possible trades...

sue the owners for tampering? if ur a boss and dont have a say in the management of ur team, then you deserve to fail when ur the one payin the bills. The problem here was they had 29 owners, if it went to a proxy voting who the trade wouldnt have gone through anyway...

Of course he screwed up.

Limits, if there were to be any, should have been placed on Demps in advance. Other teams and agents were given good reason to believe that he had the authority to make player transactions.

This whole mess was foreseeable and avoidable.

[Buddy Holly]

Of course he screwed up.

Limits, if there were to be any, should have been placed on Demps in advance. Other teams and agents were given good reason to believe that he had the authority to make player transactions.

This whole mess was foreseeable and avoidable.

Dude, it's been done in other leagues (MLB for one) so it's not unprecedented.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Of course he screwed up.

Limits, if there were to be any, should have been placed on Demps in advance. Other teams and agents were given good reason to believe that he had the authority to make player transactions.

This whole mess was foreseeable and avoidable.

theres no difference in this trade and previous trades that got decline,

the only crap here is tryin to shift the blame to the nba owners of the hornets, players already loss face in the cba talks, now tryin to do the same here by gettin back at them, when this is just something minor gettin turn into something big

[Master splitter]

HA HA... Lol

[DPG21920]

I don't remember this uproar when Clips owner squashed our trade after accepting.

[GSH]

I don't like the deal from LA from a basketball standpoint.

This is a bigger issue. Seperate your hate for the Lakers from this and imagine a scenario where you gave up say Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili for say Russell Westbrook. Then the league comes in and tell you it is a no go even though both teams wanted to do it and no one else would give anywhere close to that much for Westbrook. Would you find that upsetting?

I think you would.

This had nothing to do with the facts and everything to do with whiny owners like Dan Gilbert (just sell your team already, you have failed) and Mark Cuban (cheats in business, bends the rules) complaining solely because once again the Lakers (a well managed, winning organization) beat everyone to the punch. Fact.


Lemme put it another way. I heard that Stern made up his mind to deny the trade in exactly .4 seconds. Now stop whining and live with it.

[ChumpDumper]

Of course he screwed up.

Limits, if there were to be any, should have been placed on Demps in advance. Other teams and agents were given good reason to believe that he had the authority to make player transactions.

This whole mess was foreseeable and avoidable.I guess, but implying Demps could operate completely unfettered by ownership doesn't seem realistic.

[Mel_13]

theres no difference in this trade and previous trades that got decline,

such as?

[Mel_13]

I guess, but implying Demps could operate completely unfettered by ownership doesn't seem realistic.

I didn't intend that implication. More the opposite. Constraints on his authority should have been clear to all involved.