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Pelicans78
12-09-2011, 12:05 AM
Hornets general manager Dell Demps is “disconsolate” over the heavy-handed move from the commissioner’s office, a source told Y! Sports. Demps considered resigning his job on Thursday, league sources said, and had to be talked out of it. The Hornets had scored a terrific deal for Paul, a trade that was lauded by some of Demps’ peers throughout the league. Officials involved in the trade talks said the league office was consulted throughout the negotiations, and there was never an indication Demps didn’t have the power to make a deal. In fact, several teams negotiating with New Orleans to get Paul asked the league office, and were told Demps had full authority to execute a trade.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=At_MCea0tR2fjoZ6_q4Uws28vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_chris_paul_lakers_hornets_nba_120811

Banzai
12-09-2011, 12:09 AM
League is fucked.

DJ Mbenga
12-09-2011, 12:10 AM
so sad. he did a good job. he was getting good remarks from his peers. heck even the troll spurs fans should feel for the guy, he came up in your front office.

NRHector
12-09-2011, 12:10 AM
Hornets general manager Dell Demps is “disconsolate” over the heavy-handed move from the commissioner’s office, a source told Y! Sports. Demps considered resigning his job on Thursday, league sources said, and had to be talked out of it. The Hornets had scored a terrific deal for Paul, a trade that was lauded by some of Demps’ peers throughout the league. Officials involved in the trade talks said the league office was consulted throughout the negotiations, and there was never an indication Demps didn’t have the power to make a deal. In fact, several teams negotiating with New Orleans to get Paul asked the league office, and were told Demps had full authority to execute a trade.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=At_MCea0tR2fjoZ6_q4Uws28vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_chris_paul_lakers_hornets_nba_120811no w you've done it,we are trying to cheer up BR and now you come with this, thanks alot :bang

LakerLanny
12-09-2011, 12:10 AM
They would have had Odom, Martin, Scola, Dragic.....it would have been a GREAT trade for New Orleans.

Ridiculous decision by the NBA and is costing them credibility already.

Mugen
12-09-2011, 12:11 AM
He should sue like CP3 :cry:cry:cry:cry

Kool will even front the legal fees. :lmao

DMC
12-09-2011, 12:12 AM
Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?

DMC
12-09-2011, 12:13 AM
Stern welched

NRHector
12-09-2011, 12:13 AM
He should sue like CP3 :cry:cry:cry:cry

Kool will even front the legal fees. :lmaoplease he can't even pay 500

DPG21920
12-09-2011, 12:13 AM
He should retire for taking that stupid deal for his franchise.

BRHornet45
12-09-2011, 12:14 AM
Demps has done a great job in the short time he has been here. the NBA is a fucking joke

FuzzyLumpkins
12-09-2011, 12:14 AM
Gasol has $55mil still coming to him over the next 3 years and had already been mailing it in. Thats a fucking albatross and no wonder the Lakers want rid of it.

DUNCANownsKOBE
12-09-2011, 12:15 AM
I think it woulda been a good deal for NO tbh, not sure why they'd want Odom over Gasol though

ChumpDumper
12-09-2011, 12:16 AM
I wouldn't call that a terrific deal. What if a potential buyer hates it?

Mugen
12-09-2011, 12:16 AM
Demps would have probably won GM of the year for turning a 7th seed team into a 6th seed team.

DPG21920
12-09-2011, 12:18 AM
I think it woulda been a good deal for NO tbh, not sure why they'd want Odom over Gasol though

Wow. It's an awful deal for NO and for a guy who complains about how the Suns go about business I figured you of all people would agree with that.

DPG21920
12-09-2011, 12:19 AM
Does this make us even for Kool not paying me the $500 he owes me? Probably not since he spams me with porn and starts terrible threads non stop.

DMC
12-09-2011, 12:19 AM
Wow. It's an awful deal for NO and for a guy who complains about how the Suns go about business I figured you of all people would agree with that.
He's a PG hater, and Paul is a PG. It makes sense.

NewcastleKEG
12-09-2011, 12:20 AM
They would have had Odom, Martin, Scola, Dragic.....it would have been a GREAT trade for New Orleans.

Ridiculous decision by the NBA and is costing them credibility already.
Current Hornets > That Hornets team

And that's the bottomline

DMC
12-09-2011, 12:20 AM
Does this make us even for Kool not paying me the $500 he owes me? Probably not since he spams me with porn and starts terrible threads non stop.
Do you think Stern said, in a phone call "not a fucking dime".

LakerLanny
12-09-2011, 12:20 AM
How is it an awful deal for New Orleans? Scola and Martin allow put up far bigger numbers combined than CP3 and that is before you even factor in Odom and Dragic.

*purs fans continue to exhibit a blatant lack of basketball knowledge. Go over to Lakers ground and read my archived posts for a few months. Consider it my free basketball education to you.

DPG21920
12-09-2011, 12:21 AM
Hi Mouse.

BRHornet45
12-09-2011, 12:21 AM
son it was a fucking awesome deal for the Hornets. 4 solid players and two draft picks for a 5'10 point guard with a bum knee and questionable attitude.

DJ Mbenga
12-09-2011, 12:22 AM
I wouldn't call that a terrific deal. What if a potential buyer hates it?

solid point. but it means now that the precedent has been set, paul is not going anywhere otherwise stern would contradict himself. in addition nobody should be singed for more than a 1 year deal. they have 6 players under contract. just sing a bunch of nbdl scrubs

DPG21920
12-09-2011, 12:22 AM
:lol You mad sons!

InRareForm
12-09-2011, 12:22 AM
They would have missed the playoffs with new trade. People underestimating the impact of Cp3 on that squad.

DPG21920
12-09-2011, 12:22 AM
solid point. but it means now that the precedent has been set, paul is not going anywhere otherwise stern would contradict himself. in addition nobody should be singed for more than a 1 year deal. they have 6 players under contract. just sing a bunch of nbdl scrubs

No. If Demps strikes a deal and the owner of the team likes it enough, it goes through.

Sean Cagney
12-09-2011, 12:23 AM
I agree with Hornet it was a good deal for them, shyt Lakers gave up half their frontline lol! I would have wanted that trade Pulled.

ChumpDumper
12-09-2011, 12:24 AM
How is it an awful deal for New Orleans? Scola and Martin allow put up far bigger numbers combined than CP3 and that is before you even factor in Odom and Dragic.:lol

This is your argument?


*purs fans continue to exhibit a blatant lack of basketball knowledge. Go over to Lakers ground and read my archived posts for a few months. Consider it my free basketball education to you.Probably just a bunch of whining about the NBA's anti-Laker agenda when they lose.

Killakobe81
12-09-2011, 12:26 AM
No trade I have seen was going to GARUNTEE a playoff spot without Paul ...but that was a fair trade ... Lakers had to give up 2 of it's 4 best players some would say 2 of 3 ...

ElNono
12-09-2011, 12:28 AM
tbh, he should walk away...

Koolaid_Man
12-09-2011, 12:29 AM
son it was a fucking awesome deal for the Hornets. 4 solid players and two draft picks for a 5'10 point guard with a bum knee and questionable attitude.

I could care less about LA scoring big....I hate when they do a young brotha like that...the Hornets did rape the rockets in that deal :lol

DPG21920
12-09-2011, 12:29 AM
:lol Except NO only got one of them which makes 0 sense. They didn't even get the best one :lol

They didn't need a trade to help them make the playoffs. They either need something to help them contend or rebuild. This does neither. This trade leaves them in the same spot as if CP3 just left via FA essentially.

ChumpDumper
12-09-2011, 12:30 AM
I could care less about LA scoring big.:downspin:

Pelicans78
12-09-2011, 12:31 AM
Wow. It's an awful deal for NO and for a guy who complains about how the Suns go about business I figured you of all people would agree with that.

What's so awful about the deal? Hornets had no leverage. They weren't going to get better offers and they were going to lose CP3 for nothing.

LakerLanny
12-09-2011, 12:32 AM
:lol Except NO only got one of them which makes 0 sense. They didn't even get the best one :lol

They didn't need a trade to help them make the playoffs. They either need something to help them contend or rebuild. This does neither. This trade leaves them in the same spot as if CP3 just left via FA essentially.

Ludicrous.

Maybe the worst post in the history of the internet.

If he walks, they get nothing....in this instance, they would have received four very good players and two draft picks.

Are you this big of a moron or do you just appear so on the internet?

ChumpDumper
12-09-2011, 12:33 AM
What's so awful about the deal? Hornets had no leverage. They weren't going to get better offers and they were going to lose CP3 for nothing.Letting him go for nothing is probably better for their purposes.

Pelicans78
12-09-2011, 12:33 AM
They would have missed the playoffs with new trade. People underestimating the impact of Cp3 on that squad.

They weren't making the playoffs with CP3 since David West was gone. This team was a fringe playoff team last season and without David West they would have easily missed the playoffs.

TDMVPDPOY
12-09-2011, 12:34 AM
how can u call it a great trade from NOH pov, gettin rockets pieces of shit that didnt even make the playoffs last season, + odom and his other half

NewcastleKEG
12-09-2011, 12:34 AM
Ludicrous.

Maybe the worst post in the history of the internet.

If he walks, they get nothing....in this instance, they would have received four very good players and two draft picks.

Are you this big of a moron or do you just appear so on the internet?
I don't see any ''very good'' players involved in this trade except Paul

Hornets would receive a bunch of over payed trash. Instead you let Paul walk and you have financial freedom

Drafting the next Paul > trading for boat load of crap

Koolaid_Man
12-09-2011, 12:35 AM
Ludicrous.

Maybe the worst post in the history of the internet.

If he walks, they get nothing....in this instance, they would have received four very good players and two draft picks.

Are you this big of a moron or do you just appear so on the internet?


ohh he is :lmao

ChumpDumper
12-09-2011, 12:35 AM
They weren't making the playoffs with CP3 since David West was gone. This team was a fringe playoff team last season and without David West they would have easily missed the playoffs.So don't take on a shitload of salary when it won't get you in the playoffs.

Pelicans78
12-09-2011, 12:36 AM
Letting him go for nothing is probably better for their purposes.

No its not. Its hard to rebuild with just draft choices. It doesn't work that way and its hard for small markets to sign quality FAs unless they overpay.

DPG21920
12-09-2011, 12:37 AM
Exactly :lol You don't just do trades for the hell of it. There were other offers that were much better that were unconditional of CP3 agreeing to sign w/ the tradee. Rondo+draft picks is a hell of a lot better for one.

ChumpDumper
12-09-2011, 12:38 AM
No its not. Its hard to rebuild with just draft choices. It doesn't work that way and its hard for small markets to sign quality FAs unless they overpay.That might make sense.....




.....if someone actually owned the team.

Koolaid_Man
12-09-2011, 12:38 AM
I don't see any ''very good'' players involved in this trade except Paul

Hornets would receive a bunch of over payed trash. Instead you let Paul walk and you have financial freedom

Drafting the next Paul > trading for boat load of crap



financial freedom to do what....no star player will go there now...they're fucked like MJ's team

NewcastleKEG
12-09-2011, 12:38 AM
No its not. Its hard to rebuild with just draft choices. It doesn't work that way and its hard for small markets to sign quality FAs unless they overpay.
Are you trying to win rings or just compete?

No ELITE players will ever sign to play in NO. So the only chance you have is through the draft

This is straight forward. Did the Magic get back to the NBA Finals by signing Grant Hill & Rashard Lewis OR drafting Dwight Howard. . .

Pelicans78
12-09-2011, 12:39 AM
So don't take on a shitload of salary when it won't get you in the playoffs.

You act like rebuilding is easy. Not every franchise gets lucky in the lottery twice.

ChumpDumper
12-09-2011, 12:39 AM
financial freedom to do what....no star player will go there now...they're fucked like MJ's teamSo there's really no need to take on those tens of millions of dollars in multiyear contracts.

NewcastleKEG
12-09-2011, 12:40 AM
financial freedom to do what....no star player will go there now...they're fucked like MJ's team
No star player was gonna go there anyway

You draft the next Paul

ChumpDumper
12-09-2011, 12:40 AM
You act like rebuilding is easy. Not every franchise gets lucky in the lottery twice.That's not the priority now, genius.

Pelicans78
12-09-2011, 12:40 AM
Exactly :lol You don't just do trades for the hell of it. There were other offers that were much better that were unconditional of CP3 agreeing to sign w/ the tradee. Rondo+draft picks is a hell of a lot better for one.

No its not. That Rondo deal was terrible. Draft picks aren't a guaranteed success.

Just because one team got lucky in the lottery twice doesn't mean it happens for any other team.

DPG21920
12-09-2011, 12:41 AM
You know whats 0 success? Taking on money when it gets you no where and barely getting any draft picks.

NewcastleKEG
12-09-2011, 12:41 AM
You act like rebuilding is easy. Not every franchise gets lucky in the lottery twice.
In American sports you want to be on TOP or BOTTOM. Being in the middle gets you nothing, especially if your a small market team.

You wanna be the Buffalo Bills or the Indianopolis Colts?

LakerLanny
12-09-2011, 12:42 AM
You act like rebuilding is easy. Not every franchise gets lucky in the lottery twice.

*pur fans are not the smartest.

It is basically a football community with bad football, a miserable shithole that only people with no money reside in.

Obviously, there is no way the Hornets are going to come out with a better deal for CP3 than Scola, Kevin Martin, Odom, Dragic and two picks. They will be lucky to get half that much talent back in a deal.

As a Laker fan, I don't even like the deal from a basketball standpoint for us. It is the issue of Stern stepping in on behalf of whiny owners like Cuban and affecting the future of three franchises that I don't like.

As a deal, NO would have made out great, the Lakers would have needed to still get Howard and I have no idea what Houston was thinking.

Pelicans78
12-09-2011, 12:42 AM
That's not the priority now, genius.

We all know the priority. Getting 10,000 season tickets, signing a long-term lease, then an owner, etc. That's not anything new.

DazedAndConfused
12-09-2011, 12:43 AM
Considering they are going to get NOTHING when CP3 walks next season this was a very good deal for them. Scola, Martin, and Odom are nothing to sneeze at. Very solid ball players to build a team around and I don't think anyone can question that. I don't see anything else out there that was demonstrably better than this deal, including the Rondo deal from Boston.

Pelicans78
12-09-2011, 12:44 AM
Are you trying to win rings or just compete?

No ELITE players will ever sign to play in NO. So the only chance you have is through the draft

This is straight forward. Did the Magic get back to the NBA Finals by signing Grant Hill & Rashard Lewis OR drafting Dwight Howard. . .

Yeah, lets go 18-64 every year till we draft a franchise player. :lol

DazedAndConfused
12-09-2011, 12:44 AM
We all know the priority. Getting 10,000 season tickets, signing a long-term lease, then an owner, etc. That's not anything new.

Don't listen to this guy. He's nothing more than a homer Spurs fan that is secretly giddy the Lakers didn't get CP3.

DPG21920
12-09-2011, 12:45 AM
Considering they are going to get NOTHING when CP3 walks next season this was a very good deal for them. Scola, Martin, and Odom are nothing to sneeze at. Very solid ball players to build a team around and I don't think anyone can question that. I don't see anything else out there that was demonstrably better than this deal, including the Rondo deal from Boston.

They will get cap space. They also have other trades for more and better draft picks and expiring players plus young talent.

ChumpDumper
12-09-2011, 12:46 AM
We all know the priority. Getting 10,000 season tickets, signing a long-term lease, then an owner, etc. That's not anything new.No, getting an owner is THE priority.

The 10,000 subsidized ticket giveaway was done to prove to a potential owner there is support.

No one but a new owner is going to sign a long term lease.

Damn, you're foolish.

Pelicans78
12-09-2011, 12:46 AM
Don't listen to this guy. He's nothing more than a homer Spurs fan that is secretly giddy the Lakers didn't get CP3.

That's exactly what it is. I'm not even sure why they would be upset about the Lakers getting CP3. Their window closed long ago.

TDMVPDPOY
12-09-2011, 12:48 AM
Considering they are going to get NOTHING when CP3 walks next season this was a very good deal for them. Scola, Martin, and Odom are nothing to sneeze at. Very solid ball players to build a team around and I don't think anyone can question that. I don't see anything else out there that was demonstrably better than this deal, including the Rondo deal from Boston.

lol if scola and martin are that good, how come the rockets didnt make the playoffs last season?...nothing solid here besides shit.

Pelicans78
12-09-2011, 12:48 AM
No, getting an owner is THE priority.

The 10,000 subsidized ticket giveaway was done to prove to a potential owner there is support.

No one but a new owner is going to sign a long term lease.

Damn, you're foolish.

You don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. Every one in NOLA knows that a lease will be signed before the new owner is announced. They're already negotiating a lease right now. Getting a fucking clue or some information before you spill some bullshit. Seriously, you don't know what the fuck is going on.

Pelicans78
12-09-2011, 12:49 AM
lol if scola and martin are that good, how come the rockets didnt make the playoffs last season?...nothing solid here besides shit.

Because they didn't have a center.

ChumpDumper
12-09-2011, 12:49 AM
Considering they are going to get NOTHING when CP3 walks next season this was a very good deal for them.It could be just what a potential owner wants.

Probably more likely than starting off with tens of millions of obligations right off the bat.

Koolaid_Man
12-09-2011, 12:49 AM
They will get cap space. They also have other trades for more and better draft picks and expiring players plus young talent.

you're a babbaling idiot DPG...you don't deserve another $500...cap space :lol,

trades for better draft picks :lol young talent...:lmao all of which MJ has and can't turn a profit...you're a babbaling, bubbling, blithering idiot :lol

DazedAndConfused
12-09-2011, 12:50 AM
They will get cap space. They also have other trades for more and better draft picks and expiring players plus young talent.

Give me a fucking break. At some point you fucking need solid talented role players before you're able to move anywhere.

Having tons of cap space and draft picks isn't a recipe for NBA success. Go ask the Baby Bulls how that worked out.

You're a fucking joke Spurs homer who supports tampering and collusion. GTFO.

DazedAndConfused
12-09-2011, 12:51 AM
It could be just what a potential owner wants.

Probably more likely than starting off with tens of millions of obligations right off the bat.

In light of Dan Gilbert's email, do you honestly believe this?

DazedAndConfused
12-09-2011, 12:51 AM
When NOH fans are telling you this was a good deal you know something is fucking wrong here. Stupid Spurs homers.

ChumpDumper
12-09-2011, 12:52 AM
Having tons of cap space and draft picks isn't a recipe for NBA success.It's a recipe for selling a team.

ChumpDumper
12-09-2011, 12:56 AM
In light of Dan Gilbert's email, do you honestly believe this?If it's legit, it pretty much reinforces my point.

The Hornets shouldn't be a dumping ground for multiyear contracts. The priority is getting a new owner. That new owner can make this trade or whatever trade he pleases.

TDMVPDPOY
12-09-2011, 12:57 AM
hornets now have capspace, why would they load on more payroll and try another 2 years of mediocrity for these new contracts to be written off?

i rather tank this season and the next 2 for lottery picks, then take another teams overrated trash and wait out for 2 more seasons going nowhere....then again with or without the trade, they are lottery bound anyway, the difference here is 40million payroll each season for the next 2 years just to be a lottery team? gtfo

DPG21920
12-09-2011, 01:09 AM
I love laker fan logic:

''if they don't trade us they will get nothing when he leaves in free agency!''

Well what are these other players they are getting going to do when they hit free agency? So no should just save other teams money, not truly compete and go through this every 2-3 years?

TDMVPDPOY
12-09-2011, 01:14 AM
I love laker fan logic:

''if they don't trade us they will get nothing when he leaves in free agency!''

Well what are these other players they are getting going to do when they hit free agency? So no should just save other teams money, not truly compete and go through this every 2-3 years?

lettin this bitch walk doesnt hurt them besides the clown, he walks away from a max contract the highest the hornets can give, or he goes to another team under the capspace

or join the lakers on a MLE/3 year deal earning 9m total? lmao 60m in loss salary, certainly buss can pay him through a 3rd party to offset the losses in potential income

lefty
07-25-2012, 07:37 PM
Demps has done a great job in the short time he has been here. the NBA is a fucking joke

Bump :lmao

tesseractive
07-25-2012, 08:25 PM
Considering they are going to get NOTHING when CP3 walks next season this was a very good deal for them. Scola, Martin, and Odom are nothing to sneeze at. Very solid ball players to build a team around and I don't think anyone can question that. I don't see anything else out there that was demonstrably better than this deal, including the Rondo deal from Boston.

Solid bump.

:lmao Scola
:lmao Odom
:lmao nothing was demonstrably better
:lmao Stern bitchslapping the Lakers
:lmao Stern the master of negotiating tactics once again

DPG21920
07-25-2012, 08:29 PM
Funny thread - almost as bad as me trying to explain Dwight/Deron to MAV fan. Demps sucks, this deal was stupid and he hasn't done much right since he's been in NO. NO fans should absolutely thank Stern for giving this poor franchise a fighters chance.

tesseractive
07-25-2012, 08:33 PM
Funny thread - almost as bad as me trying to explain Dwight/Deron to MAV fan. Demps sucks, this deal was stupid and he hasn't done much right since he's been in NO. NO fans should absolutely thank Stern for giving this poor franchise a fighters chance.

Dumping Okafor and Ariza for Rashard Lewis then cutting him for cap space was pretty well done, actually.

DPG21920
07-25-2012, 08:33 PM
That's why I said much :lol. Not accidentally drafting the wrong guy and that move is what he's done well.

baseline bum
07-25-2012, 08:40 PM
Benson really needs to consider hiring Stern full-time to be GM. Drafting Rivers to play PG, throwing tons of money at scrub-ass Ryan Anderson, and now trying to trade for the shittier Lopez should get Demps' ass fired.

SpursIndonesia
07-25-2012, 09:36 PM
They would have had Odom, Martin, Scola, Dragic.....it would have been a GREAT trade for New Orleans.

Ridiculous decision by the NBA and is costing them credibility already.

:blah ....... :lol

Pelicans78
07-25-2012, 09:50 PM
Demps is ok. Trading Okafor and Ariza was a huge move. That was his signature move by far. Totally fleeced the Wizards in that one and got a 2nd round pick out of it. Signing Anderson for 8.5 million per season is not bad at all. Numbers back it up. At least he will perform in the regular season. Hopefully Gordon and Davis step up so Anderson can just be a complementary player. Didn't care for the Rivers pick, but drafting Darius Miller in the 2nd round was a good pick. Also made some decent low risks move trading for guys like Jason Smith, Xavier Henry, and Greivis Vasquez. Trading Thornton for Landry at the time was a smart move especially West tore his ACL.

ElNono
07-25-2012, 10:27 PM
What's gonna happen is unibrow covering a lot of these bad moves... we'll see if Benson sees through it...