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CosmicCowboy
12-09-2011, 02:47 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/transportation-report/labor-employment/198399-labor-board-withdraws-boeing-complaint

NLRB withdraws Boeing complaint
By Keith Laing - 12/09/11 12:06 PM ET
The National Labor Relations Board has dropped its controversial case against airline manufacturer Boeing, which had become a lightning rod for conservatives.

The labor board argued for much of the past year that Boeing decided to locate a new plant to build its new 787 Dreamliner jets in South Carolina, a right-to-work state, in retaliation for strikes by unionized workers at its existing facilities in Washington state.


But the panel appeared to bow to political pressure Friday, saying that a deal the company reached this month with the International Association of Machinists to build a different type of airliner, the 737 Max, in Washington satisfied its concerns.

"The charge was always about the loss of jobs in the Seattle area," NLRB Acting General Counsel Lafe Solomon said on a conference call with reporters.
With the new deal, "jobs are secure in the Washington area, and also jobs are secure in South Carolina," he said.

Conservatives had argued that the labor board was trying to dictate to Boeing where it could do business, but Solomon denied that accusation.

"This case was never about the union or the NLRB telling Boeing where it could it put its plant," he said. "It was about retaliation."

One of perhaps the most vocal GOP critics of the NLRB's case against Boeing, South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint (R), strongly disagreed.

"The NLRB’s dismissal of charges against Boeing only after union approval of their new contract only confirms the charges were a politically-motivated negotiation tactic, not a serious complaint based on merit," DeMint said in a statement. "Unfortunately, real and serious damage to America's competitiveness has already been done. A precedent has been set by the NLRB that they will attack businesses in forced-unionism states that try to create jobs in right-to-work states."

"Those on the NLRB board who led this attack on workers' rights should resign immediately," DeMint concluded.

The chairman of the House Oversight and Government Affairs Committee, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) took a similar stance Friday. Issa, who had issued subpoenas to the labor relations board for documents related to its case against Boeing, declared the decision to withdrawl the case a "victory," but he promised to continue his investigation.

"NLRB’s record of rogue action and lack of transparency with the public and Congress in this case--and in others--has raised serious questions that remain unanswered," he said in a statment.

Asked to weigh in on the NLRB's decision to drop the case as he walked to the White House Friday, President Obama said according to pool reports "I'm glad people are gonna be working."

Although Boeing had already opened its new facility in Charleston, S.C., the NLRB case could have forced it to move production of the 787s back to Washington state.

Boeing spokesman Tim Neale said about the move, “Yesterday, the International Association of Machinists withdrew its charge pending before the National Labor Relations Board. The Administrative Law Judge, before whom the case was pending, then granted the NLRB’s request to remand the case to the NLRB Regional Director for dismissal. This morning, the Regional Director of the NLRB approved the withdrawal of the IAM’s charge, and the NLRB dropped the case.

"We have maintained from the outset that the complaint was without merit and that the best course of action would be for it to be dropped," Neale said in a statement. "Today that happened. Boeing is grateful for the overwhelming support we received from across the country to vigorously contest this complaint and support the legitimate rights of businesses to make business decisions."

The case riled Republicans in South Carolina, and with the state holding a crucial early primary in the race for the GOP presidential nomination next year, it became a talking point among candidates painting it as an example of what they argue is government overreach under President Obama.

Solomon said Friday he "hoped" the criticism of the labor board would recede with the withdrawal of the Boeing case, but he also said it was possible the NLRB would make the same decision in a similar circumstance.

"If we're faced with a similar situation, we might well have a complaint," he said.

But on Friday, Solomon praised the deal between Boeing and the IAM union that led to the controversial complaint being dropped.

"It's a win-win for the company, it's a win-win for the machinists, and it's a win-win for the economy," he said.

ChumpDumper
12-09-2011, 02:57 PM
lol workers' rights

Wild Cobra
12-09-2011, 03:56 PM
lol workers' rights
Your point?

Unions do attack workers rights. Sure, they collectively fight for rights, but individual bargaining is lost. Everyone gets paid an average worker wage than by ability. Lowest common denominator often rules.

boutons_deux
12-09-2011, 04:01 PM
WC, our resident union-hating expert on unions

Wild Cobra
12-09-2011, 04:05 PM
WC, our resident union-hating expert on unions
When my job talents are above average, I don't like being paid the average union wage.

clambake
12-09-2011, 04:10 PM
well, you're a union worker, so......

Wild Cobra
12-09-2011, 04:17 PM
well, you're a union worker, so......
I'd be making more money and better benefits in a comparable non union job, if they didn't go to Asia.

clambake
12-09-2011, 04:19 PM
no you wouldn't. thats why they're in asia.

Wild Cobra
12-09-2011, 04:20 PM
no you wouldn't. thats why they're in asia.
They are in Asia because of tax rates here.

clambake
12-09-2011, 04:22 PM
sure, thats it.

FuzzyLumpkins
12-09-2011, 04:26 PM
DeMint is such a douchebag. The NLRB action was based on a complaint which was withdrawn. He does not really want it pursued, he is just trying to score points with people like WC and CC who of course eat that shit right up.

Boeing still had property there and was unlikely to just abandon it but the Seattle metro area was about to lose a major assembly plant.

And all these assertions about union payscales are cute but I best not hear complaints about unions being too powerful and able to negotiate for more money than they are worth. Your brains probably won't pick up the inconsistency.

CosmicCowboy
12-09-2011, 04:34 PM
DeMint is such a douchebag. The NLRB action was based on a complaint which was withdrawn. He does not really want it pursued, he is just trying to score points with people like WC and CC who of course eat that shit right up.

Boeing still had property there and was unlikely to just abandon it but the Seattle metro area was about to lose a major assembly plant.

And all these assertions about union payscales are cute but I best not hear complaints about unions being too powerful and able to negotiate for more money than they are worth. Your brains probably won't pick up the inconsistency.

Fuck you...I could give a shit about DeMint and unlike you, I can make up my own mind on stuff. You just vomit up the same old tired progressive talking points.

The NLRB acted improperly and interfered in a private companies business. They have NO RIGHT to tell Boeing they can't open up a plant in a right to work state if they want to...yet they DID...it was outright blackmail to force Boeing to capitulate to union demands...

boutons_deux
12-09-2011, 04:35 PM
CC always ready to fuck employees.

Boeing was used the move to SC to bust the union.

CosmicCowboy
12-09-2011, 04:42 PM
CC always ready to fuck employees.

Boeing was used the move to SC to bust the union.

they weren't trying to bust the union. They still had union plants in Seattle.

Get your facts straight, moron.

FuzzyLumpkins
12-09-2011, 04:46 PM
Fuck you...I could give a shit about DeMint and unlike you, I can make up my own mind on stuff. You just vomit up the same old tired progressive talking points.

The NLRB acted improperly and interfered in a private companies business. They have NO RIGHT to tell Boeing they can't open up a plant in a right to work state if they want to...yet they DID...it was outright blackmail to force Boeing to capitulate to union demands...

They have the legal right to act on a labor complaint. its clearly within their jurisdiction. They certainly do have the right to petition the court which is what they were doing. Bitching about it doesn't change that.

Thats a legal point not a progressive talking point. Your comment on 'interfered in a private companies business' is a fucking corporate spin on it.

The union complained to the NLRB which caused the action. Its not hard to figure out.

What exactly is a progressive talking point anyway? That Boeing still had property? Thats a point of fact.

Wild Cobra
12-09-2011, 04:51 PM
they weren't trying to bust the union. They still had union plants in Seattle.

Get your facts straight, moron.
There's also a plant outside of Portland. I know people who work there.

Boeing facility, Gresham, Oregon (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=boeing+portland+or&ll=45.545478,-122.466332&spn=0.004628,0.006378&oe=utf-8&fb=1&gl=us&hq=boeing&hnear=0x54950b0b7da97427:0x1c36b9e6f6d18591,Portla nd,+OR&cid=0,0,10821282561826876787&t=h&z=18&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=45.545483,-122.466574&panoid=WGMV2D29PEz6mZ1q9ZxgiQ&cbp=12,184.96,,0,4.32)

ChumpDumper
12-09-2011, 05:06 PM
I'd be making more money and better benefits in a comparable non union job, if they didn't go to Asia.:lmao

Blake
12-09-2011, 05:12 PM
I'd be making more money and better benefits in a comparable non union job, if they didn't go to Asia.

lolwtf

Wild Cobra
12-09-2011, 05:21 PM
You two don't get it. There are actually places I can get a better paying job now. With the semiconductor industry relocating, I would be risking another lay off. I am old enough, I am tired of making job changes. I make a good wage where I am. If I were younger, I would leave my current job.

clambake
12-09-2011, 05:28 PM
You two don't get it. There are actually places I can get a better paying job now. With the semiconductor industry relocating, I would be risking another lay off. I am old enough, I am tired of making job changes. I make a good wage where I am. If I were younger, I would leave my current job.

you'd leave to get laid off?

how do you spell einstein?

Wild Cobra
12-09-2011, 05:34 PM
Clammy...

You just don't get it.

Hint. I don't feel job security because I am in a union job now. I feel job security because what I do cannot be relocated offshore.

clambake
12-09-2011, 05:37 PM
so.....you're trapped. why don't you take you "skilz" overseas?