Remaining Bigs on the Market (FA/Trade)

[bless1187]

Obviously so far this offseason has been very disappointing. Observing our roster, our real big weakness is the frontline. I think the type of BIG that Spurs are targeting are the more mobile, skilled big that could play the 4 rather than the traditional 5 such as C. Kaman etc. Here's the thing, even though T. Duncan is listed as PF but he's really a C these days since he doesn't have the foot speed to keep up with the more agile 4 these days such as D. Nowtizki, L. Odom, etc. Imagine a starting front court of T. Duncan and C. Kaman or T. Duncan and J. Pryzbilla, that would be the slowest front line in the whole entire NBA.

Of the remaining FA bigs:

my top option is K. Humphries, and it doesn't look like NJ is going to resign him with talks of offering Nene a huge contract and talk of trading for D. Howard. I think he will come at around the 5-6 mil range which is about the whole MLE. Unless we waive RJ, the only way we could get him is maybe through S&T (A. McDyess, Future 1st pick) for K. Humphries.

the other option is C. Landry, i'm not really as high on him as K. Humphries, he's basically another undersized big, he has a very good offensive game and plays very hard but he struggles to rebound at a good rate. I assume C. Landry will also cost the full MLE.

On the trade market:

Tyrus Thomas comes to mind as a potential trade target. He's one of the most athletic big in the league today. He's a good shot blocker and a good stealer, but a bit low on BB IQ. I really feel that he'd be the perfect fit next to T. Duncan, he's athletic enough to guard all the mobile 4s and the 3s in the NBA, he could offer rim protection and due to his quickness, he'll have no problem guarding the pick and roll, on offense he also has a reliable mid-range game, which is something very important in the Spurs system so it won't clog the lane up. I feel that there's a possibility that Bobcats may be willing to trade him since he really hasn't fulfill his full potential after they signed him to the big contract last year. He's getting paid about 7.5 mil this year and it'll run til 2015 which he'll be getting paid 9.5 mil then. Bobcats have one of the lowest box office, so i assume they love to cut cost, and also they also just drafted another highly similar player in Biyombo. Maybe a A. McDyess + D. Blair for T. Thomas could work.

[bless1187]

anyone heard any news on K. Humphries that is not Kardashian or marriage related???

[Mr. Body]

I'm slightly surprised Glen Davis wound up far more important in the NBA than Tyrus Thomas, his LSU mate, ever did. I was a Big Baby defender back in the day - when others laughed at the notion of using a 2nd rounder on him - but this combination surprises.

[mexicanjunior]

Since Cowboys season is over, I really hope the Spurs do something to make me actually give a shit about them. Please don't sit back and pull a Romo, get something done front office...

[8FOR!3]

Humphries would rock, but it's a shame he wouldn't be bringing Kardashian's fine ass with him.

[sananspursfan21]

whats sean williams doing these days? hes a headcase but hes young and talented

[AFBlue]

whats sean williams doing these days? hes a headcase but hes young and talented

Not the caliber of player that makes a difference on this squad.

[stephen jackson]

tyrus thomas huh?
maybe...
spurs did try to trade for him a while back

[Spurs9]

I didn't even realize Tyrus was a possibility. Please sign him spurs

[AFBlue]

I didn't even realize Tyrus was a possibility. Please sign him spurs

Not a FA. He was brought up as a trade possibility. And he's not as good as the OP makes him sound. As an undersized PF that can't guard bigs and has no semblance of a post game, he's paid way too much for way too long.

[stephen jackson]

Not a FA. He was brought up as a trade possibility. And he's not as good as the OP makes him sound. As an undersized PF that can't guard bigs and has no semblance of a post game, he's paid way too much for way too long.

same as rj
perfect trade
:stirpot:

[AFBlue]

same as rj
perfect trade
:stirpot:

RJ will be cut, plain and simple. Spurs aren't taking on another bad contract, which is the only thing you're getting for RJ's bad contract. Not when they can get rid of him and only have 25% of his salary count against the cap.

[sasffl]

Larry Sanders from Bucks

[sananspursfan21]

Larry Sanders from Bucks

Colonel Sanders

[The ADMIRAL 50]

I agree, for the most part, with the OP's take on Thomas. I wish we had gotten him when he was a FA, but I'm glad we didn't sign him to that contract Charlotte did. Now though, with the defensive strength of our bigs rotation? I would take that on probably. Losing Blair in a trade for him might not be worth it though imo; Blair is a much lower risk with less $/years left, and say what you will about him people of Spurstalk, but he remains an absolute rebounding beast. Rebounding is easily a top three factor in any basketball game (with offensive efficiency and defense as the others, in my mind), but it could definitely be argued that with what this roster needs right now, Thomas' athletic ability and rim protecting presence would be more valuable that what DBlair gives us.

[Mr Bones]

I don't trust Kris Humphries' stats. Yes, he averaged a double-double, but on a terrible team with possibly the worst rebounding starting center in the league last season-- Brook Lopez, who at 7' & 265 lbs managed to grab 5.9 rpg while playing 35 minutes. There was simply no one else grabbing rebounds on that team. I think if Tiago Splitter or Matt Bonner had started for the Nets last season they probably would have put up similar or better numbers...

[dbestpro]

My guess is they will go after Pryzbilla.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

My guess is they will go after Pryzbilla.
Hope they do.

[8FOR!3]

It'd be great if we could sign Przybilla. He's one of the better rebounders out there.

[YODA]

Kaman, is off the table. Thomas, spurs wont go after as they want cap room next year. Look at us to bring in a couple DL guys and maybe give Ajincia a look over. Hadaddi maybe.



How do you know Kaman is off table?

[tomtom]

Pryzbilla is retiring http://twitter.com/#%21/ChrisMannixSI/status/144809382746664960

[Fireball]

and there goes another option ...

[Mel_13]

My guess is they will go after Pryzbilla.


Pryzbilla is retiring http://twitter.com/#%21/ChrisMannixSI/status/144809382746664960

[Spur|n|Austin]

Hornets trade to Clippers off..

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AqXqWfEX6tlcZc6koSyaJfy8vLYF?slug=aw-hornets_clippers_paul_trade_121211

[tomtom]

Any word on whether Clippers are matching Warriors offer for Jordan?

[GSH]

There are 3 categories of bigs on the market:

1. Bigs that aren't really big
2. Bigs that we don't want
3. Bigs that we can't afford

[JR3]

we need to trade for a big.. there is no one on the market. In order to trade for a big, we would have to give up parker, which leaves us no PG. Our only trade piece for a big is manu because we are deep at the 2. However, we all know we aint trading Manu. San Antonio (including me) would rather go down with the team we have than trade Manu for a decent big and still go down.

[TDMVPDPOY]

didnt beidrins get amnesty? should pick him up on the cheap

[KuntryDude]

Isn't Samuel Dalembert still out there for grabs? Haven't heard any mention of him in the forum....

[GSH]

Dalembert is dumb as a bag of rocks. That's not just exaggeration, because I don't like him or something. Yes, he's very athletic. Seriously low basketball IQ, to say the least.

[JP le Requin]

utah jazz wants drop out al jefferson ant milsap..so whant can we afford them and what about kirilenko??? with utah we can get our 3 and our 4/5...
lets give up RJ, blair, dice and maybe draft pick for al jefferson & AK47

where is espn trade machine? if someone can try?

[Anonymous Cowherd]

Dalembert would be awesome. And is way out of our reach.

Biedrins would actually be a realistic choice, either through trade or amnesty. If the Warriors get DeAndre Jordan, they might well trade RJ's contract for Biedrins.

[sananspursfan21]

Dalembert would be awesome. And is way out of our reach.

Biedrins would actually be a realistic choice, either through trade or amnesty. If the Warriors get DeAndre Jordan, they might well trade RJ's contract for Biedrins.

be great if you were right

[KuntryDude]

we need to trade for a big.. there is no one on the market. In order to trade for a big, we would have to give up parker, which leaves us no PG. Our only trade piece for a big is manu because we are deep at the 2. However, we all know we aint trading Manu. San Antonio (including me) would rather go down with the team we have than trade Manu for a decent big and still go down.


Hey whatever it takes dude. I remember not long ago when Manu was actually on the trading block, then he finally pulled his head out of his ass. I'm all for being committed to an organization or an individual, but biz is biz. You give me a super athletic big who can defend, rebound, block shots, and provide descent ppg......bye bye Gino. Our lacking of an alternate descent big cost us dearly last season bro.

[Obstructed_View]

didnt beidrins get amnesty? should pick him up on the cheap

I think you have to be under the cap to bid on an amnesty drop. Seems stupid that the Spurs are going to wait until the last minute to amnesty RJ and then they're going to get no monetary relief on his salary and there will be nobody to offer the MLE to by that point.

[GSH]

I think you have to be under the cap to bid on an amnesty drop. Seems stupid that the Spurs are going to wait until the last minute to amnesty RJ and then they're going to get no monetary relief on his salary and there will be nobody to offer the MLE to by that point.

Yep. Teams under the cap can bid for amnestied players.

And for those wishing for Dalembert - remember Drew Gooden? How much playing time do you think another low-BB-IQ is going to get under Pop? Why spend any money on a guy you know isn't going to be on the court?

[objective]

Biedrins was Not amnestied, GS used it on Bell instead

[mudyez]

With Duncan, McDyess, Bonner, Blair and Splitter, we have 5 biggs and with Leonard there is the ability to play some smallball.

We are fine inside!

Wait! That is ST-suicide I'm doing here....Even I would bash myself for these comments.

[Dex]

With Duncan, McDyess, Bonner, Blair and Splitter, we have 5 biggs and with Leonard there is the ability to play some smallball.

We are fine inside!

Wait! That is ST-suicide I'm doing here....Even I would bash myself for these comments.

On paper, it would seem like we have the front-line filled.

All it takes it re-watching the Memphis series to realize that is far from the truth.

If the Spurs seriously come back with the same 5 bigs for next season, I will have lost all faith in the front office.

[bless1187]

i don't think the Spurs would wasting there time signing bigs like Haddidi or Pryzbilla, 1st of all they are even less mobile than T. Duncan, that itself would be a bad combination. I don't really see either of them being better than what we already have on the roster, which is not a lot. one guy that i haven't heard of at all in the free agency is K. Humphries, i think he can be had at a fair price, maybe a S&T: A. McDyess plus Draft Pick for K. Humprhies at about the full MLE range.

http://netsarescorching.com/2011/03/17/kris-humphries-defensive-wizard/

[bless1187]

and according to this article he was one of nets best defensive player last season.

http://netsarescorching.com/2011/03/17/kris-humphries-defensive-wizard/

[mudyez]

i don't think the Spurs would wasting there time signing bigs like Haddidi or Pryzbilla, 1st of all they are even less mobile than T. Duncan, that itself would be a bad combination. I don't really see either of them being better than what we already have on the roster, which is not a lot. one guy that i haven't heard of at all in the free agency is K. Humphries, i think he can be had at a fair price, maybe a S&T: A. McDyess plus Draft Pick for K. Humprhies at about the full MLE range.

http://netsarescorching.com/2011/03/17/kris-humphries-defensive-wizard/

I would only like one thing more than Humphries on the Spurs:

Humphries playing with Lamar Kardashian in DAL!

[mudyez]

not really a big, but how about AK47?

[Big P]

Dalembert would be awesome. And is way out of our reach.

Biedrins would actually be a realistic choice, either through trade or amnesty. If the Warriors get DeAndre Jordan, they might well trade RJ's contract for Biedrins.

Why?

[therealtruth]

and according to this article he was one of nets best defensive player last season.

http://netsarescorching.com/2011/03/17/kris-humphries-defensive-wizard/

Wow did not know he was that good defensively. Might not be a bad replacement for Dice if he's willing to accept MLE.