CP3 Deal Done

[timvp]

:reading

[VBM]

ESPN sources: Clippers and NBA-owned Hornets have agreed to Chris Paul deal in principle. Gordon, Kaman, Aminu and Minnesota pick to Hornets

[8FOR!3]

So wait, they'd have Chris Paul, Chauncey Billups, AND Ninja Turtle (even though M-Will is more of a two guard anyways.)?

[JayTheClown]

Nice haul by the Hornets

[Muser]

That Minny pick is huge, Hornets are gonna be stacked in the next draft.

[angelbelow]

That deal is even better than the lakers and rockets one -_-

Interesting that they gave up Eric Gordon.. would have thought he was untouchable for them.

[pass1st]

Clippers will be pretty fun to watch, BR can breath easy now.

[VBM]

Ha...Stern shits on the haters...great deal for NO

[rayjayjohnson]

they gave up eric gordon? that's fucking stupid.

he's 23, has great production and both his knees work

[MavFan6488]

clippers starting lineup:

C - DeAndre Jordan
PF - Blake Griffin
SF - Caron Butler
SG - ???
PG - Chris Paul

who will play sg? billups?

[angelbelow]

they gave up eric gordon? that's fucking stupid.

he's 23, has great production and both his knees work

Yeah, my initial opinion is that this is a highway robbery in favor of the hornets.

[JayTheClown]

hmmmm......Wonder if Bledsoe is available now?

[Ice009]

Hornets ripped them off IMO.

LOL I think I might want Stern to be the owner of my team after this heist.

[cobbler]

That deal is even better than the lakers and rockets one -_-

Interesting that they gave up Eric Gordon.. would have thought he was untouchable for them.

Not really. The Laker/Houston trade made them much more competitive today. The Clippers trade has the POSSIBILITY to be stronger years from now.

[Spurs9]

Lmao @ Shitty lakers getting owned

You laker fags keep quoting 5-4 because you aint winning shit :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[rayjayjohnson]

the hornets just buttfucked the clippers. i'd be pissed if i were eric gordon too

[Koolaid_Man]

Hornets ripped them off IMO.

LOL I think I might want Stern to be the owner of my team after this heist.


The Hornets just lost CP3 and David West they will be the new CLippers for decades...you guys severely overrating those garbage players they received...it's no surprise the bar is obviously set low in SA

[Red Hawk #21]

I think both teams made off well in this trade. But seriously though, Chris Paul with Blake Griffin? That is gunna be a very, very dangerous duo...

[Ice009]

The Hornets just lost CP3 and David West they will be the new CLippers for decades...you guys severely overrating those garbage players they received...it's no surprise the bar is obviously set low in SA

You got owned by Stern, now shut the fuck up. Move along.

[ElNono]

Not really.

Yeah, really.

[angelbelow]

Not really. The Laker/Houston trade made them much more competitive today. The Clippers trade has the POSSIBILITY to be stronger years from now.

I guess it depends on how you look at it. The lakers/rockets deal definitely gave them a strong team for the upcoming season.

But the clipper deal is definitely better for the long haul. Kaman will expire away, Gordon is a fantastic prospect to have and Dwight lookalike is whatever. They'll suck this year but they'll have 2 high draft picks in one of deeper drafts in recent years. On top of that they keep their salary low.. I would definitely take this deal over the lakers one from the perspective of someone who works for the hornets management or a potential buyer.

As a basketball fan obvious CP3 on the lakers would have been better though..

[LnGrrrR]

That's an awesome deal for the Hornets.

[Nathan89]

Much better than the other trade. If I were a Hornets fan I would be really happy with this deal. Clippers fans may have mixed feelings.

[Koolaid_Man]

You got owned by Stern, now shut the fuck up. Move along.


Stern did us favor...I was totally not expecting CP3 anyway...that would have just been icing on the cake. As far as I'm concerned there's no team out West I see getting past us...Can you legitimately pick a team to beat LA in the west...no you can't

[024]

gordon was the only piece in the deal that the clippers wanted to keep. aminu, kaman, and the pick will be meaningless with the current roster. good trade for both sides. clippers got to keep bledsoe apparently but i dunno how long he will stay on the team.

[Koolaid_Man]

I guess it depends on how you look at it. The lakers/rockets deal definitely gave them a strong team for the upcoming season.

But the clipper deal is definitely better for the long haul. Kaman will expire away, Gordon is a fantastic prospect to have and Dwight lookalike is whatever. They'll suck this year but they'll have 2 high draft picks in one of deeper drafts in recent years. On top of that they keep their salary low.. I would definitely take this deal over the lakers one from the perspective of someone who works for the hornets management or a potential buyer.

As a basketball fan obvious CP3 on the lakers would have been better though..


Darko was a high draft pick as well :lol you don't win titles through the draft these days...learn something

[PGDynasty24]

LOL clippers showing why they are the clippers.

[JayTheClown]

Stern did us favor...I was totally not expecting CP3 anyway...that would have just been icing on the cake. As far as I'm concerned there's no team out West I see getting past us...Can you legitimately pick a team to beat LA in the west...no you can't

:lmao:lmao:lmao
Lets see.....
Dallas - just swept ya last year, and added your 3rd best player
OKC - younger and better than the Lakers

[Spurs9]

Stern did us favor...I was totally not expecting CP3 anyway...that would have just been icing on the cake. As far as I'm concerned there's no team out West I see getting past us...Can you legitimately pick a team to beat LA in the west...no you can't
With the current Roster? You guys added a bunch of white guys:lmao:lmao

OKC
Spurs
Clippers
Mavs(Swept you guys, now you have a shitter roster, and theirs is way better)

[baseline bum]

Wow, huge trade for the Hornets. A likely top 5 pick in the most stacked draft in years, an A-level guard prospect, and a decent SF prospect. The Hornets are lucky as hell they had Stern negotiating for them. He got as much as they could possibly hope to get in exchange. LOL Clippers.

[DPG21920]

Not really. The Laker/Houston trade made them much more competitive today. The Clippers trade has the POSSIBILITY to be stronger years from now.

:lol Cobble WRONG about det deal.

DPG right about det deal.

You've got no room for the rest of the year and this is why I'm the REGULATOR.

[DPG21920]

I think both teams made off well in this trade. But seriously though, Chris Paul with Blake Griffin? That is gunna be a very, very dangerous duo...

Very true which is why I called it. Deal made too much sense not to happen. Clippers finally made a splash and gave themselves a legit chance to move forward. They also shit all over the Lakers by swooping up the guy the Lakers DESPERATELY wanted which has happened exactly 0 times before.

[Koolaid_Man]

:lol Cobble WRONG about det deal.

DPG right about det deal.

You've got no room for the rest of the year and this is why I'm the REGULATOR.

:lmao hey loser what are you jerking off about...you didn't reveal shit that wasn't being discussed in the basketball world...the LA/Hou/NO trade makes them play-off ready now...this trade only gives them possibility...what am I missing here...Cobbler was right and Cully never wanted Cp3 or Dwight so what are you masturbating so strong for :lol

[DPG21920]

Wow, huge trade for the Hornets. A likely top 5 pick in the most stacked draft in years, an A-level guard prospect, and a decent SF prospect. The Hornets are lucky as hell they had Stern negotiating for them. He got as much as they could possibly hope to get in exchange. LOL Clippers.

So a lot of people owe Stern and myself an apology. :lol

Stern > Kupchak :lol

[JayTheClown]

With the current Roster? You guys added a bunch of white guys:lmao:lmao

OKC
Spurs
Clippers
Mavs(Swept you guys, now you have a shitter roster, and theirs is way better)

Yeah, Its premature to put the Clippers over the Lakers right now. The Clippers are going to be fun to watch, but as of right now the Cips have no one who has an outside shot. The Clips just shipped that guy to New Orleans (Gordon).

[Spurs9]

Very true which is why I called it. Deal made too much sense not to happen. Clippers finally made a splash and gave themselves a legit chance to move forward. They also shit all over the Lakers by swooping up the guy the Lakers DESPERATELY wanted which has happened exactly 0 times before.
Not to mention Blake/Cp3 will draw another key player in future like howard

[baseline bum]

So a lot of people owe Stern and myself an apology. :lol

Stern > Kupchak :lol

I didn't think the Clippers would be stupid enough to include Gordon. The Hornets were going to lose him outright to the Clippers in the summer. This trade makes no sense for them.

[VBM]

Dan Gilbert poppin' bottles right now.

http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web03/2009/8/19/2/usher-poppin-bottles-with-the-crasher-7766-1250661661-11.jpg

[Koolaid_Man]

Very true which is why I called it. Deal made too much sense not to happen. Clippers finally made a splash and gave themselves a legit chance to move forward. They also shit all over the Lakers by swooping up the guy the Lakers DESPERATELY wanted which has happened exactly 0 times before.


So you saying CP3 and Blake gets past Kobe, Pau, and Bynum...:lmao last I checked

Kobe > CP3
Pau > Blake
Bynum has no one to check him

[JayTheClown]

Not to mention Blake/Cp3 will draw another key player in future like howard

The Clippers wont pony up the money to pay a guy like Howard.

[DPG21920]

:lmao hey loser what are you jerking off about...you didn't reveal shit that wasn't being discussed in the basketball world...the LA/Hou/NO trade makes them play-off ready now...this trade only gives them possibility...what am I missing here...Cobbler was right and Cully never wanted Cp3 or Dwight so what are you masturbating so strong for :lol

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187707

wrong :lol

:lmao By your account I was a member of the 2% that said the LA deal was shit and they could be a better deal. You even started a thread about it

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[Nathan89]

LoL Lakerfans

The Pau deal was fair because it gave them young prospects.
The Lakers deal> Clippers deal

[angelbelow]

Darko was a high draft pick as well :lol you don't win titles through the draft these days...learn something

lmao. Heres a response to your retarded argument was cp3 not a high pick? Yeah we could probably do this forever.

And who said anything about winning titles?

[Koolaid_Man]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187707

wrong :lol

:lmao By your account I was a member of the 2% that said the LA deal was shit and they could be a better deal. You even started a thread about it

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calm your ass down...you still have Duncan anchoring the post in SA...that is the real life...wake up :lmao

[Koolaid_Man]

lmao. Heres a response to your retarded argument was cp3 not a high pick? Yeah we could probably do this forever.

And who said anything about winning titles?


:lmao and has he won a title :lmao

[DPG21920]

I didn't think the Clippers would be stupid enough to include Gordon. The Hornets were going to lose him outright to the Clippers in the summer. This trade makes no sense for them.

Why? Even with Gordon included, the kept Bledsoe and landed Paul. To give up the pick was crucial, but basketball wise losing Aminu/Gordon is well worth it to get Paul in LAC from every perspective (ticket sales, shot to win in the playoffs...)

They might have slightly over paid, but it's worth it to land Paul for 2 years guaranteed IMO. Him getting to FA could really have hurt their chances to land him.

[Nathan89]

So you saying CP3 and Blake gets past Kobe, Pau, and Bynum...:lmao last I checked

Kobe > CP3
Pau > Blake
Bynum has no one to check him

Guess you didn't watch the first round.

[Huey Freeman]

calm your ass down...you still have Duncan anchoring the post in SA...that is the real life...wake up :lmao

:lmao:lmao This is his response when he knows he has been beat. He CHANGES the subject

[BRHornet45]

Party time sons!

[angelbelow]

:lmao and has he won a title :lmao

Like I said, we can do this all day, was paugasol a high pick? Was Michael Jordan? :rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin: rollin:rollin

[Koolaid_Man]

Guess you didn't watch the first round.


tell me what happened in the 1st round :lmao

[cobbler]

So a lot of people owe Stern and myself an apology. :lol

Stern > Kupchak :lol

I apologize!

I actually thought you had a little upstairs. I now realize you are a complete idiot. So yeah, I apologize for talking over your head all these years.

The trade is a good trade. To say its better than the Laker/Houston trade is absurdity at best. It POTENTIALLY could be slightly better. It potentially could be a lot lot worse.

See Blazers...

[Koolaid_Man]

Like I said, we can do this all day, was paugasol a high pick? Was Michael Jordan? :rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin: rollin:rollin


you're a head case...go back and re-read my OP before you engage me with retarded drivel...what an intellect :lol

[joeyjfive]

Darko was a high draft pick as well :lol you don't win titles through the draft these days...learn something

Don't win titles through the draft huh. You do realize MJ, Tim Duncan, Shaq, Wade, etc were all high draft picks. They all won titles.

[DJ Mbenga]

That deal is even better than the lakers and rockets one -_-

Interesting that they gave up Eric Gordon.. would have thought he was untouchable for them.

he was at a clippers event when the deal came down. Tells you how much they thought of him.

[Nathan89]

tell me what happened in the 1st round :lmao

Chris Paul dominated your shit bag.:lol

[DPG21920]

Party time sons!

BR, did I not tell these clowns freaking out to chill because Stern>Kupchak was wheelin' and dealin'?

Can I get a amen

[JayTheClown]

I apologize!

I actually thought you had a little upstairs. I now realize you are a complete idiot. So yeah, I apologize for talking over your head all these years.

The trade is a good trade. To say its better than the Laker/Houston trade is absurdity at best. It POTENTIALLY could be slightly better. It potentially could be a lot lot worse.

See Blazers...

The Lakers/Houston wouldn't have potentially gave the Hornets a lottery pick. Would it? That to me was one of the biggest parts of the Clippers trade. The Houston/Lakers would have made the Hornets 8th seed competitive tho, your right.

[Koolaid_Man]

Don't win titles through the draft huh. You do realize MJ, Tim Duncan, Shaq, Wade, etc were all high draft picks. They all won titles.

you guys are perennial idiots..the operative word(s) in my OP being " these days" ...

The Hornets ain't winning shit within the next 10 yrs :lol

[DPG21920]

I apologize!

I actually thought you had a little upstairs. I now realize you are a complete idiot. So yeah, I apologize for talking over your head all these years.

The trade is a good trade. To say its better than the Laker/Houston trade is absurdity at best. It POTENTIALLY could be slightly better. It potentially could be a lot lot worse.

See Blazers...

:lmao :lmao There is no circumstance where the LA trade was better.

Me>YouPERIOD

[Koolaid_Man]

Chris Paul dominated your shit bag.:lol

my bad I thought he lost :lol

[DPG21920]

Kool:

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[BRHornet45]

BR, did I not tell these clowns freaking out to chill because Stern>Kupchak was wheelin' and dealin'?

Can I get a amen

We stacked! We stacked! We stacked! We stacked!
:danceclub

[cobbler]

The Lakers/Houston wouldn't have potentially gave the Hornets a lottery pick. Would it? That to me was one of the biggest parts of the Clippers trade. The Houston/Lakers would have made the Hornets 8th seed competitive tho, your right.

Draft picks are potential. They can go either way regardless of how high. One only has to look at the Blazers to know this.

So what does Stern do now? Turn the team over to the very guys that he lied about last year to mold it for the future owner? Hmmmm...

I never wanted CP3 anyway so this doesnt bother me in the least with regards to our team. It does bother me that Stern lied, overstepped his bounds, and put a big ole black eye on the NBA. He completely tarnished whatever was left of his legacy.

It's a good trade. I belive the Lakers/Houston trade was better as it had PROVEN players. Not prospects and projects.

[baseline bum]

Why? Even with Gordon included, the kept Bledsoe and landed Paul. To give up the pick was crucial, but basketball wise losing Aminu/Gordon is well worth it to get Paul in LAC from every perspective (ticket sales, shot to win in the playoffs...)

They might have slightly over paid, but it's worth it to land Paul for 2 years guaranteed IMO. Him getting to FA could really have hurt their chances to land him.

Who else was he going to go to? Big market + future MVP to throw alley-oops to + young star SG + high-ceiling athletic center + top 5 pick would have been an enormous draw for Paul with the Knicks and Lakers out of the picture. There was no other team who was going to match the Clippers proposal without Gordon; they were so stupid to give up as much as they did.

[angelbelow]

you're a head case...go back and re-read my OP before you engage me with retarded drivel...what an intellect :lol

I read your OP and I think its retarded. I dont care about the hornets winning a title. It doesnt fucking matter if they win a championship now or in 10 years, because their goal is to sell the team. Besides I'm not concerned about their title hopes and its safe to say you aren't either.

My point is that this is a better deal from point of view of the hornets ownership/management. They get a young player with star potential and they get high draft picks. Their team is much easier to sell and they get 2 high draft picks (since the hornets are going to suck too).

[IronMexican]

LoL Lakerfans

The Pau deal was fair because it gave them young prospects.
The Lakers deal> Clippers deal

Don't agree.

They come away with a top 5 pick and Eric Gordon.

In the Lakers deal, they were getting a similar package to what the Nuggets got. Late draft picks and plenty of players that will range from good to average.

[Nathan89]

my bad I thought he lost :lol

True. Then why did you want CP3? When Fisher is clearly better.

:lolidiot

[VBM]

Just a bit of this and that...

Zr5Z1DFIHNc

[baseline bum]

Draft picks are potential. They can go either way regardless of how high. One only has to look at the Blazers to know this.

So what does Stern do now? Turn the team over to the very guys that he lied about last year to mold it for the future owner? Hmmmm...

Eric Gordon is better than any player (now or the future) the Hornets would have gotten in the 3-way HOU/LA deal and the bloated contract they took (Kaman) is only one year instead of two (Martin). This trade is so much better for the Hornets than the other one.

[Koolaid_Man]

I read your OP and I think its retarded. I dont care about the hornets winning a title. It doesnt fucking matter if they win a championship now or in 10 years, because their goal is to sell the team. Besides I'm not concerned about their title hopes and its safe to say you aren't either.

My point is that this is a better deal from point of view of the hornets ownership/management. They get a young player with star potential and they get high draft picks. Their team is much easier to sell and they get 2 high draft picks (since the hornets are going to suck too).

you're clueless as is typical Spur fan...they get 1 first round pick...the others are in the 2nd round...this is basically a Paul for Gordon swap...those extra picks aren't worth shit...only real basketball fans can reason as such...you guys are so high on this because you know what they draft can do for those that tank :lol

[JayTheClown]

Draft picks are potential. They can go either way regardless of how high. One only has to look at the Blazers to know this.

So what does Stern do now? Turn the team over to the very guys that he lied about last year to mold it for the future owner? Hmmmm...

The bottom line is you dont trade your star player for a lump of aging veterans in hopes of making the 8th seed of the playoffs. That is bad business either way you look at it. There is small hope in the present and no hope in the future. The Hornets are in a better position now then they were yesterday.

[DPG21920]

Who else was he going to go to? Big market + future MVP to throw alley-oops to + young star SG + high-ceiling athletic center + top 5 pick would have been an enormous draw for Paul with the Knicks and Lakers out of the picture. There was no other team who was going to match the Clippers proposal without Gordon; they were so stupid to give up as much as they did.

I disagree. There would be other teams in play. Gordon was about to get paid as well, and with them bringing on a max guy like CP3, having to pay Griffin, just paying Jordan, they would be in a bind. I think you over estimate Paul's affinity for the Clips at the moment. There was a reason he fought going there so hard, but then relented.

I think that with the uncertainty, they made the right move. Besides Gordon/Pick, they didn't give up too much IMO and IMO CP3 is easily worth Gordon/Pick to pretty much guarantee playoffs and having a solid young core.

Kaman was gone anyways and maybe would have gotten them a draft pick. Aminu, I'm not THAT high on him, but he's a decent prospect. So again, Gordon/Pick for CP3 is a pretty damn good deal IMO.

[VBM]

Minnesota's got some bulletin board material now...people thinking their draft pick is worth Chris Paul. Kevin Love's about to average 20 boards a night...

[DPG21920]

Don't agree.

They come away with a top 5 pick and Eric Gordon.

In the Lakers deal, they were getting a similar package to what the Nuggets got. Late draft picks and plenty of players that will range from good to average.

Except the Nuggets players weren't old like the players NO was getting.

[benefactor]

Predictable asshurt Laker fan is predictable.

[Koolaid_Man]

True. Then why did you want CP3? When Fisher is clearly better.

:lolidiot


it would have still been an upgrade idiot...:lol and now I never lobbied for CP3 when his name was thrown in the discussion then I was for it..I lobbied only for Dwight...but I'm glad CP3 got out of Nawlins because I don't think this trade will impress a potential buyer...

[baseline bum]

Besides Gordon/Pick, they didn't give up too much IMO

:lol No shit, Gordon and the pick is a hell of a lot. Aminu is a high-ceiling project and Kaman is just a shitty expiring.

[DPG21920]

Kool melting down again at the hands of me :lmao

First, The Bet, now The Thread :lmao

[DPG21920]

:lol No shit, Gordon and the pick is a hell of a lot. Aminu is a high-ceiling project and Kaman is just a shitty expiring.

For a superstar? It is a fair amount. Point is, I don't think they overpaid by enough to call them stupid.

[angelbelow]

you're clueless as is typical Spur fan...they get 1 first round pick...the others are in the 2nd round...this is basically a Paul for Gordon swap...those extra picks aren't worth shit...only real basketball fans can reason as such...you guys are so high on this because you know what they draft can do for those that tank :lol

My opinion is that Mins 1st round and Eric Gordon in a straight up deal for Cp3 is not a balanced one. Especially because the clippers are set up to have a nice lineup in the upcoming years, that 1st round from Min can potentially do wonders for rounding out their roster. CP3 is overrated and the clippers gave up too much. Whether you think that opinion is "clueless" is up to you.

Do the hornets have their own 1st round pick for 2012 or did they trade it? Cause thats the other one I'm talking about because they will undoubtedly have a shitty record this year which will lead to a high pick.

[baseline bum]

Except the Nuggets players weren't old like the players NO was getting.

Yeah, the LA offer wasn't anything close to as good as Denver landing Felton, Chandler, Gallinari, a first, and $3 million.

[Muser]

lol at some lakerfans saying their package was better. In that trade the Hornets would of got Scola/Kevin Martin/Houstons 2012 pick/Odom. Those would be the key pieces. How the fuck do those pieces beat a top SG in Gordon,Aminu,Kaman's 12.7 Million expiring and the Minny pick which is unprotected and most likely top 5.

[LnGrrrR]

So you saying CP3 and Blake gets past Kobe, Pau, and Bynum...:lmao last I checked

Kobe > CP3
Pau > Blake
Bynum has no one to check him

Actually it's

CP3>>>>Kobe
Blake>>>>>>>>Pau
Working knees>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bynum

[baseline bum]

For a superstar? It is a fair amount. Point is, I don't think they overpaid by enough to call them stupid.

The Hornets would have been forced to make the deal without Gordon. They were getting nothing better. I still think Sterling would have been willing to spend with the TV deal he can get now with Blake+CP3, so I don't think paying Gordon would have been as big of an issue as you're making it. If Sterling wasn't going to spend, then why did he just drop $43 million on Jordan?

[Muser]

lakerfan employing gnsf logic in this thread. When they big up Kobe it's all "Pau plays like a pussy!" But whenever it's against anyone else Pau is a worldbeater.

[IronMexican]

If I'm the Clippers, I probably make the deal. This isn't like the Knicks, who were getting him in the off-season anyways(Melo). CP3 seems like he will stay with the Clippers. This might be their only way to get a super star.

[baseline bum]

That Minny pick is just gold for the Hornets: there are 5 top-notch frontcourt prospects out there in Anthony Davis, Andre Drummond, Harrison Barnes, Jared Sullinger, and Perry Jones. Anywhere in the top 5 you're going to land a hell of a prospect. Even the second-tier forwards like Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Quincy Miller, and Terrence Jones are really nice prospects.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Let the record show that I never wanted CP3, and was happy when the Lakers didn't get him. DPG, you are a witness...Cub too.

[Spur_Fanatic]

Stern did us favor...I was totally not expecting CP3 anyway...that would have just been icing on the cake. As far as I'm concerned there's no team out West I see getting past us...Can you legitimately pick a team to beat LA in the west...no you can't

Yeah, you totally didn't want CP3. The hundreds of threads you made in the last month salivating about him were just troll attemps.

[baseline bum]

Let the record show that I never wanted CP3, and was happy when the Lakers didn't get him. DPG, you are a witness...Cub too.

But did you want the trade exception for Odom?

[IronMexican]

Yeah, the LA offer wasn't anything close to as good as Denver landing Felton, Chandler, Gallinari, a first, and $3 million.

Agreed. But that was just the best example I could use.

Hornets made off nice. Better than Denver, and much better than the Laker/Rockets offer.

[DPG21920]

The Hornets would have been forced to make the deal without Gordon. They were getting nothing better. I still think Sterling would have been willing to spend with the TV deal he can get now with Blake+CP3, so I don't think paying Gordon would have been as big of an issue as you're making it. If Sterling wasn't going to spend, then why did he just drop $43 million on Jordan?

I don't think they would have been forced. Look at all the idiots who said the Laker deal was amazing and they were willing to let CP3 walk into FA rather than not get a great deal. That was their leverage. Give us what we want or run the risk of losing CP3 when he hits free agency. Getting him guaranteed is a great basketball move and financial move (just reported that already 99% sold out for season tickets).

He paid Jordan because he was the first one up in line and big men don't grow on trees. He wasn't facing a huge decision on multiple guys so he didn't have to choose now.

[baseline bum]

You dont trade a superstar in his prime for prospects, idiot. This has never been done before.

Yeah, you trade him for bad contracts and midlevel players in their thirties. :rollin

[DPG21920]

That Minny pick is just gold for the Hornets: there are 5 top-notch frontcourt prospects out there in Anthony Davis, Andre Drummond, Harrison Barnes, Jared Sullinger, and Perry Jones. Anywhere in the top 5 you're going to land a hell of a prospect. Even the second-tier forwards like Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Quincy Miller, and Terrence Jones are really nice prospects.

Very true and that isn't even considering the pick NO can get on their own if they struggle, which is likely. Stern did an amazing job and shit all over everyone who mocked his "basketball reasons". NO fans should be grateful Stern didn't let dummy Demps do something horrifically stupid. Demps should be fired for making that LAL deal IMO.

[DeadlyDynasty]

But did you want the trade exception for Odom?

No, tbh i liked our returning team (but wanted us to get b-diddy) b/c the west was getting weaker. I was a strong advocate for getting D12, but i wanted to keep as many bigs as possible.

[Muser]

You do when said superstar is bolting when his contract expires.

[angelbelow]

Hes not getting not tv deal, you asshole. Not one is going to pay to watch the Clippers. They wont even make the playoffs.

Ehh.. the clipper movement got pretty big in LA cause of Blake. Most of the Average Joe basketball fans in LA hopped onto the Blake band wagon.

Even if the clippers don't admit this, this move makes perfect sense in terms of marketing potential.

[DMC]

clippers starting lineup:

C - DeAndre Jordan
PF - Blake Griffin
SF - Caron Butler
SG - ???
PG - Chris Paul

who will play sg? billups?

Someone needs to take that Cuban urinal pic and photoshop it over DWade's floor, oh my fucking eye pic, like Mark pissed on his eye.

[Muser]

Will be interesting to see how Blake/Paul play together.

[jag]

NO got out good with this one. Any superstar who has the potential to disappear for entire quarters is overrated. Chris Paul does exactly that. And it doesn't help that he has a fucked up, only-child attitude.

[slick'81]

Chris Kaman was traded to the Hornets on Wednesday and could end up starting at power forward.

Emeka Okafor is still around and it's also possible that Okafor could play PF and Kaman start at C. Either way, both bigs are likely to start and get excellent minutes this season.
Related: Emeka Okafor (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1042/emeka-okafor)

Dec 14 - 8:08 PM

[timvp]

Scola, Martin, Dragic and Odom for nothing would be an unfair deal. Scola, Martin and Dragic are all overpaid. Odom, as we saw from the Mav trade, had neutral value. That would have been the worst trade for a superstar of all-time. You take those four only if you have a superstar or two and you need complementary players -- not when you are rebuilding.

This deal is much better. Aminu looks like a possible bust but Gordon and that pick is easily the best the Hornets were going to get.

[benefactor]

Will be interesting to see how Blake/Paul play together.
Remember all those ally oops that Paul threw to Chandler against the Spurs in the playoffs? Get ready for a full season of that.

[baseline bum]

Very true and that isn't even considering the pick NO can get on their own if they struggle, which is likely. Stern did an amazing job and shit all over everyone who mocked his "basketball reasons". NO fans should be grateful Stern didn't let dummy Demps do something horrifically stupid. Demps should be fired for making that LAL deal IMO.

Yeah, the Hornets will be setup nicely; they're going to be bad enough that they could land a second top-5 pick counting their own. A core of Anthony Davis / Harrison Barnes / Eric Gordon would be a great place to rebuild from. If the BYC rules aren't too bad (I forgot what they are in the new CBA) they may even be able to sucker a team like the Spurs into giving up a mid-to-late first for Kaman's expiring too. Maybe land an Austin Rivers or a John Henson.

[Muser]

Remember all those ally oops that Paul threw to Chandler against the Spurs in the playoffs? Get ready for a full season of that.

Yeah that's what I mean, Chandler was an athletic freak but Blake is on another level. Clippers games are gonna be damn fun this year.

[slick'81]

no shit paul to griffin whata sic combo

[jag]

Yeah, the Hornets will be setup nicely; they're going to be bad enough that they could land a second top-5 pick counting their own. A core of Anthony Davis / Harrison Barnes / Eric Gordon would be a great place to rebuild from. If the BYC rules aren't too bad (I forgot what they are in the new CBA) they may even be able to sucker a team like the Spurs into giving up a mid-to-late first for Kaman's expiring too. Maybe land an Austin Rivers or a John Henson.

Exactly. BB with the goods

[DPG21920]

This was a very good deal for both teams IMO. It made sense, helped LAC make a big time splash in the face of the Lakers and got them a truly legit superstar who is a beast in the playoffs. Paul is a gamer no matter how much shit people talk about him. The Clips gave up a good amount, but from a basketball perspective, Kaman/Aminu weren't doing much for them in the position they were in. The only real impactful basketball guy they gave up was Gordon. They added Paul/Butler/Billups while giving up Gordon from an impact perspective (maybe Kaman you could argue). That's a win.

It's a huge win for NO as well because Gordon is a cheap really talented player. They got an amazing draft pick and even if you don't like Aminu, he is a low risk high upside gamble and Kaman is worth more to NO than LAC and can be flipped again for a young prospect and pick.

[Banzai]

Well..I have to look at it in a positive way..I just got cable the other day..I know some will say satellite is better..but I can watch all the basketball games now rofl...

[timvp]

I wish the Lakers would have landed CP3, personally. Splitting possessions with Kobe is easier to defend than CP3 throwing lobs to two of the five most athletic bigs in the NBA. That's going to be disgusting.

[slick'81]

yeah i think aminu still has some upside as for sg clippers still got randy foye lol

[Koolaid_Man]

I wish the Lakers would have landed CP3, personally. Splitting possessions with Kobe is easier to defend than CP3 throwing lobs to two of the five most athletic bigs in the NBA. That's going to be disgusting.


disgusting only for Spur fan..we have our bigs and their not TOS's

[jag]

I wish the Lakers would have landed CP3, personally. Splitting possessions with Kobe is easier to defend than CP3 throwing lobs to two of the five most athletic bigs in the NBA. That's going to be disgusting.

A blind monkey could throw lobs to Blake. Dude is going to go up and get the ball no matter what.

[joeyjfive]

you guys are perennial idiots..the operative word(s) in my OP being " these days" ...

The Hornets ain't winning shit within the next 10 yrs :lol

Yes, you also mention Darko. Wade was picked in the same draft and has won a title. Are you fuckin retarded or something?

[Koolaid_Man]

Yes, you also mention Darko. Wade was picked in the same draft and has won a title. Are you fuckin retarded or something.

there's always exceptions to the rule...by and large you don't win titles through the draft...not unless you have a 10 yr plan :lol

[baseline bum]

You give me one reason that Paul would want to play for the worst franchise is sports.

Because it was one of three teams he would accept a trade to?

[timvp]

You seem to have it figured out. You give me one reason that Paul would want to play for the worst franchise is sports. Not to mention that Blake will most likely go home to play with Durant in two years.

Winning Donald Sterling a championship should be a deadly sin but apparently CP3 doesn't like black tenants either because the Clippers were his third choice.

[joeyjfive]

there's always exceptions to the rule...by and large you don't win titles through the draft...not unless you have a 10 yr plan :lol

If there are exceptions to your rules than why are you calling people idiots who are presenting you with facts? I mean I understand not every Spur fan has even common sense but come on now.

[Koolaid_Man]

If there are exceptions to your rules than why are you calling people idiots who are presenting you with facts? I mean I understand not every Spur fan has even common sense but come on now.

because my statement is 99 % accurate - you don't win titles through drafts now-a-days

[JayTheClown]

because my statement is 99 % accurate - you don't win titles through drafts now-a-days

So how should a small market team win a title?

[Ice009]

Remember all those ally oops that Paul threw to Chandler against the Spurs in the playoffs? Get ready for a full season of that.

He's also got DeAndre Jordan to throws that ally oops to as well, who is also probably just as athletic as Chandler was. This could be quite dangerous for opposing teams.

[joeyjfive]

You know Kobe was picked up by the Lakers on DRAFT day, he was ultimately the reason you guys won your last 2 rings. Unless your trying to say ROOKIES dont make an immediate impact and win championships, I can't agree that you don't when titles through the draft.

[joeyjfive]

So how should a small market team win a title?

Really how does anyone when a title? Because apparently the players you draft have nothing to do with winning titles.

[024]

this was a long overdue moment for clipper fans. they have been ridiculed by laker fans for so long and by the rest of the league as the lakers' retarded younger brother. clippers aren't clear of their curse yet as they have to stay healthy. knowing the clippers' history, it's likely either paul or griffin will go down this season.

[024]

this was a long overdue moment for clipper fans. they have been ridiculed by laker fans for so long and by the rest of the league as the lakers' retarded younger brother. clippers aren't clear of their curse yet as they have to stay healthy. knowing the clippers' history, it's likely either paul or griffin will go down this season.

[LnGrrrR]

lakerfan is agonizing over this sham tonight.

fify

[Koolaid_Man]

So how should a small market team win a title?

Tank I guess :lol

[Giuseppe]

Tank I guess :lol

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Muser]

Tank I guess :lol

That's what the Hornets get to do with this trade you fucking idiot.

[slick'81]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/383692_10151058254870305_221292025304_21762771_188 9132313_n.jpg

[Koolaid_Man]

You know Kobe was picked up by the Lakers on DRAFT day, he was ultimately the reason you guys won your last 2 rings. Unless your trying to say ROOKIES dont make an immediate impact and win championships, I can't agree that you don't when titles through the draft.


Listen idiot one last time...99% of players in the league comes in through a draft but " in today's league" you don't win titles through the draft...even though you can eventually build a solid team over time...

[21_Blessings]

I'd rather have Deron anyway.

Pau is done as a Laker.

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

I'd rather have Deron anyway.

Pau is done as a Laker.

Deron coming to the D you dick in the booty azz nikka

[JayTheClown]

Listen idiot one last time...99% of players in the league comes in through a draft but " in today's league" you don't win titles through the draft...even though you can eventually build a solid team over time...

So how does a team like the Hornets win a title? Through FA?

[tomtom]

So what're they gonna do with 4 point guards now: Paul, Williams, Billups, and Bledsoe lol

[Koolaid_Man]

So how does a team like the Hornets win a title? Through FA?


by fielding a team that can make the play-offs

[Koolaid_Man]

gotta get your city excited and behind your team..otherwise you'll be as shitty as MJ's Bobcats

[Muser]

by fielding a team that can make the play-offs

Which the Laker trade would not have allowed them to do.

[DPG21920]

You know what else is done? Koolaid_Man. Again. By me. lol.

[21_Blessings]

CP3 is f:lolcked. Gimpy knee + cursed franchise? Good luck with that :lmao

[JayTheClown]

by fielding a team that can make the play-offs

This is you
http://antville.org/static/easa/images/shake_your_head_pix_3.jpg

[21_Blessings]

Two years from now:

- Griffin's knee will have imploded, again

- CP3 peaces out after realizing what a shitastic franchise/owner he's playing for.

Clips mortgaged their future (top 5 SG and top 10 pick) for a 2 season rental :lmao

[Spursfan092120]

The Hornets just lost CP3 and David West they will be the new CLippers for decades...you guys severely overrating those garbage players they received...it's no surprise the bar is obviously set low in SA

:lmao 4 titles in 7 years..yeah..bar's set really low.

[Giuseppe]

You know what else is done? Koolaid_Man.

- "Promises, promises."

- Ernie "The Cat" Ladd

[Muser]

I'd rather have Deron anyway.



Wouldn't you rather have the best PG in the NBA?

[pass1st]

Clippers need to make moves in their FO instead of their roster, tbh.

[21_Blessings]

Wouldn't you rather have the best PG in the NBA?

Only applies when he's not matched-up with Deron

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I don't like that deal at all. Giving up Eric Gordon was a mistake. The first deal: Aminu, Bledsoe, Kaman, 2 picks, was very fair. I think the Clips should have stuck to their guns, and gone ahead with Billups as PG. They gave up too much for Paul whose knee is not in great shape.

[baseline bum]

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1578/2k12.jpg

fify

[timvp]

fify

:lol


lol him still being down from previous game

[benefactor]

fify
rofl

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

This:

Billups/Williams/Bledsoe
EG/Foye
Butler/Aminu/Gomes
Griffin/whoever
DAJ/whoever

is a better team than this:


Paul/Billups/Williams/Bledsoe
Foye? Williams? Billups?
Butler/Gomes
Blake/whoever
DAJ/whoever

All the had to do was move Kaman for whatever they felt like, and play out the season. They may well have landed Paul in free agency. Instead they gave up the best young SG in the NBA for a guy with a bum knee. Is Paul extending part of the deal? The ESPN story doesn't say so... so this could be a one-year hire!?

[Giuseppe]

This:

Billups/Williams/Bledsoe
EG/Foye
Butler/Aminu/Gomes
Griffin/whoever
DAJ/whoever

is a better team than this:


Paul/Billups/Williams/Bledsoe
Foye? Williams? Billups?
Butler/Gomes
Blake/whoever
DAJ/whoever

All the had to do was move Kaman for whatever they felt like, and play out the season. They may well have landed Paul in free agency. Instead they gave up the best young SG in the NBA for a guy with a bum knee. Is Paul extending part of the deal? The ESPN story doesn't say so... so this could be a one-year hire!?

Christ, and just when Kori's nephew's esteem was out the roof.:rolleyes

[ElNono]

Didn't take long for Lakerfan to shit on Paul even though it was Stern that pushed the buttons...

[joeyjfive]

Listen idiot one last time...99% of players in the league comes in through a draft but " in today's league" you don't win titles through the draft...even though you can eventually build a solid team over time...

Whatever you are obviously retarded, you arent making any sense whatsoever. In todays league you can't win a title, you use Darko as an example. Wade was drafted in the same "today's league" and won a title in "today's league". Therefore you are wrong you terrible terrible retard.

[024]

This:

Billups/Williams/Bledsoe
EG/Foye
Butler/Aminu/Gomes
Griffin/whoever
DAJ/whoever

is a better team than this:


Paul/Billups/Williams/Bledsoe
Foye? Williams? Billups?
Butler/Gomes
Blake/whoever
DAJ/whoever

All the had to do was move Kaman for whatever they felt like, and play out the season. They may well have landed Paul in free agency. Instead they gave up the best young SG in the NBA for a guy with a bum knee. Is Paul extending part of the deal? The ESPN story doesn't say so... so this could be a one-year hire!?
eric gordon is good but when you can get the best point guard in the league back, you do it. you are trading a potentially all star shooting guard for the best point guard. the draft pick, aminu, and kaman won't be necessary with the current roster. you have to remember the clippers were perpetually in "rebuilding mode." they saw an opportunity and took it. if they didn't do this, they risked gordon, griffin, bledsoe, and aminu leaving the team down the road.

paul has agreed to stay on his contract for another year so that gives the clippers two years to convince paul to stay. and if they convince paul to stay, they will for sure convince griffin to stay when his contract is up, and start attracting some FA's. so it's kind of like a snowball effect.

[cobbler]

Many Laker fans wanted nothing to do with Paul. The price was way to steep. Stern, in his biggest blunder of his career, actually did us a favor.

[024]

Many Laker fans wanted nothing to do with Paul. The price was way to steep. Stern, in his biggest blunder of his career, actually did us a favor.
those grapes are sour anyways!

[VBM]

Nets are engaged in serious talks with free agent forward Andrei Kirilenko, league source told SI

https://twitter.com/#!/ChrisMannixSI/statuses/147123701056409600

Thought that fool was going to LA?

[pass1st]

I wonder if Mavericks can put Khloe as center, she would clog up the lane.

[cobbler]

those grapes are sour anyways!

Not for me. I am all for going for Howard but even then not at the cost of both our bigs. Never was for CP3. Bigs win titles. It's not rocket science.

[pass1st]

https://twitter.com/#!/ChrisMannixSI/statuses/147123701056409600 (https://twitter.com/#%21/ChrisMannixSI/statuses/147123701056409600)

Thought that fool was going to LA?


There was never any attempt to go after him, I think. People just trying to be detective and assume he would be a logical Odom replacement.

[Spurs9]

Lakers are the worst fans in this league

[DPG21920]

This:

Billups/Williams/Bledsoe
EG/Foye
Butler/Aminu/Gomes
Griffin/whoever
DAJ/whoever

is a better team than this:


Paul/Billups/Williams/Bledsoe
Foye? Williams? Billups?
Butler/Gomes
Blake/whoever
DAJ/whoever

All the had to do was move Kaman for whatever they felt like, and play out the season. They may well have landed Paul in free agency. Instead they gave up the best young SG in the NBA for a guy with a bum knee. Is Paul extending part of the deal? The ESPN story doesn't say so... so this could be a one-year hire!?

You might be the only person in the world besides Laker fan who thinks this is a bad deal. Nothing is guaranteed. In the NBA, the opportunities are rare to land a top 2 player at his position. When you get said chance, you take it if you want any shot at being relevant.

Billups is done. This trade makes them better than standing pat and at least gives them hope of a serious future. It was time for them to make a move and they did it. The only basketball asset with regards to winning now they gave up for Paul was Gordon. Paul for Gordon is an amazing tradeoff. Losing a basketball asset like Gordon, but gaining Paul/Butler/Billups is a very good trade off and those picks wouldn't likely bring you anyone better than Paul. It was a pretty damn good deal for all involved which is rare.

[Giuseppe]

Didn't take long for Lakerfan to shit on Paul even though it was Stern that pushed the buttons...

Lest we ferget....I was charter Lakerfan to shit on Paul.

[Giuseppe]

Lakers are the worst fans in this league

Except every other.

[slick'81]

I wonder if Mavericks can put Khloe as center, she would clog up the lane.


she does look like marc gasol

[Giuseppe]

she does look like marc gasol

& I bet she has a fuckin' bush on her that extends all the way to her balloon knot.

[NRHector]

Except every other.he said Laker fan, that you are not

[Giuseppe]

he said Laker fan, that you are not

I never defend my fandom.

It's my religion.

[mavsfan1000]

lol Lakers

[DJ Mbenga]

https://twitter.com/#!/ChrisMannixSI/statuses/147123701056409600 (https://twitter.com/#%21/ChrisMannixSI/statuses/147123701056409600)

Thought that fool was going to LA?

lakers dont have the mini mle anymore. they were desperate for bigs. besides he has the presidential candidate from his home country after him. pretty easy choice

[Pelicans78]

Only applies when he's not matched-up with Deron

He abused Deron in their last meeting and that was at 80%. Deron has gotten too slow to guard him at this point.

[Pelicans78]

I approve of this trade. The Hornets built through the draft before with CP3 and West. They can do it again. They're gonna not be able to sign superstars. They're gonna have to develop them.

[Red Hawk #21]

fify

:lmao

[Red Hawk #21]

So what're they gonna do with 4 point guards now: Paul, Williams, Billups, and Bledsoe lol

This is a very good point. Paul is a great PG, while the other 3 are very good. Some trades have to be made, unless you're going to have some disgruntled players.

[Pelicans78]

Bledsoe's out for most of the season. Billups will get minutes at the two.

[024]

it will probably be paul/billups/butler/griffin/jordan to close games. that's pretty crazy. mo williams is amnestied for sure.

[DJ Mbenga]

cant wait to see del negro try to tell billups not to chuck 3s in crunch time.

[InRareForm]

Gordon is good, no doubt, but I doubt many people actually saw him play in his games last year on a nightly basis. Most are speaking as though he had no flaws.

[024]

fify
:rollin

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

eric gordon is good but when you can get the best point guard in the league back, you do it. you are trading a potentially all star shooting guard for the best point guard. the draft pick, aminu, and kaman won't be necessary with the current roster. you have to remember the clippers were perpetually in "rebuilding mode." they saw an opportunity and took it. if they didn't do this, they risked gordon, griffin, bledsoe, and aminu leaving the team down the road.

paul has agreed to stay on his contract for another year so that gives the clippers two years to convince paul to stay. and if they convince paul to stay, they will for sure convince griffin to stay when his contract is up, and start attracting some FA's. so it's kind of like a snowball effect.

I can see that logic, I'm just not sure Paul's knee will hold up long term, and I'd like to have seen him extend more than one year.

It's not disastrous, but I thought the Faker trade landed NO more, and that the original Clips trade was fair. Strange the Clips held onto Bledsoe.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

You might be the only person in the world besides Laker fan who thinks this is a bad deal. Nothing is guaranteed. In the NBA, the opportunities are rare to land a top 2 player at his position. When you get said chance, you take it if you want any shot at being relevant.

Billups is done. This trade makes them better than standing pat and at least gives them hope of a serious future. It was time for them to make a move and they did it. The only basketball asset with regards to winning now they gave up for Paul was Gordon. Paul for Gordon is an amazing tradeoff. Losing a basketball asset like Gordon, but gaining Paul/Butler/Billups is a very good trade off and those picks wouldn't likely bring you anyone better than Paul. It was a pretty damn good deal for all involved which is rare.

Yeah, I see all that, but I know some Clips fans who aren't happy either.

Paul's knee is a real worry.

Anyway, they took a chance and it will be fun to see what happens.

[Bill_Brasky]

So who are they expecting to fill the SG role? Willie Warren?

[DPG21920]

Bbbbbillups

[Bill_Brasky]

Bbbbbillups

Damn really? Dude's old, they'll need one or two more capable guards on their roster with this hellish season in front of them.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

A great deal for both teams. Much much better for the Hornets than the Lakers/Houston one.

[TDMVPDPOY]

man if the clippers can pick up amnesty players they are going to be stacked and it only benefits clippers owner where he only has to pay what he bids on while the other t eam still outpays that contract...his basically winning

[Josepatches_]

Not really. The Laker/Houston trade made them much more competitive today. The Clippers trade has the POSSIBILITY to be stronger years from now.


Clippers trade is a lot better.It's not even close

[Trainwreck2100]

what's hilarious is that after this season if the original lakers no trade went through the Hornets would only have 2 players on their roster from the deal. Scola and Martin, because money wise there's no way they could justify odom's option. And somehow the lakers deal was better

[Scrub]

I don't like that trade for the Clippers tbh. I think they were buttfucked again...:depressed
I liked their team before the trade better...could have just played the season, let Kaman expire and try getting CP3 or Deron in FA. They would have that Minny pick that would net them another stud and could become the new OKC with a competent GM like Presti...

Now to look like an actual team that could do some damage they'd need OJ Mayo/Afflalo at SG and Pachulia/Mohammed at C...with only Jordan at C and no SG this is a first round exit in 5 imho.

Although they now have two superstars I like the Memphis Grizzlies way more even though they don't have a superstar and think they would curbstomp them in the playoffs if they meet...

Oh well it's the Clippers...

[m>s]

clippers lost both gorden & the pick to acquire the little nig who isn't going to re-sign, its like they traded the whole thing for only half a year's service of paul and when n!gga actually walks as he's supposed to do, the clippers are fucked

that fat old son of a bitch stern never loses imho

[Scrub]

clippers lost both gorden & the pick to acquire the little nig who isn't going to re-sign, its like they traded the whole thing for only half a year's service of paul and when n!gga actually walks as he's supposed to do, the clippers are fucked

that fat old son of a bitch stern never loses imho

That's what usually happens when you try to make business with a jew. Ask Hitler. Even when the whole world was hunting them down like rats, they still came out winners, owning a brand new country. (no racist, just sayin tbh)

[Brazil]

Yeah, I see all that, but I know some Clips fans who aren't happy either.

Paul's knee is a real worry.

Anyway, they took a chance and it will be fun to see what happens.

Gordon has some injuries history too.

All in all I think it's a good trade for both team. Clipps gave up a 2012 first round but they already won the jackpot with Griffin, they cannot live forever by stacking prospects, I agree with DPG they needed to go to the next step.

For the Hornets it is very good too, they have a lot of draft picks to build on and Gordon is an amazing guard.

I do hope now everybody will stay healthy gordon, cp3, griffin because its going to be fun to watch the clipps and the 2012 hornets.

and it is also good for the league

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Upon further reflection, I think this was a franchise-changing trade that had to be done. It has risks, but they're worth taking for the possible upside. My initial reaction was wrong.

This is a great example of why one shouldn't rush to judgement. ;)

[lefty]

I hate Stern, but he did what he had to do

[baseline bum]

Upon further reflection, I think this was a franchise-changing trade that had to be done. It has risks, but they're worth taking for the possible upside. My initial reaction was wrong.

The Clippers definitely got the better end of the trade; you always trade four quarters for a dollar in the NBA. Still, they were in a real position of power over the Hornets which they could have used to rape New Orleans by not including Gordon. Paul wasn't going to go anywhere else and New Orleans would eventually have had to take the offer minus Gordon.

[Giuseppe]

I hate Stern, but he did what he had to do

& what Gilbert, et al told him to do.

[cobbler]

& what Gilbert, et al told him to do.

Dont forget MJ :lol

God bless em all and thank you for saving us. :toast

[lefty]

& what Gilbert, et al told him to do.
Butthurt :lol

[Giuseppe]

Dont forget MJ :lol

God bless em all and thank you for saving us. :toast

:toast