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Man Mountain
12-15-2011, 02:25 AM
Steve Novak is back in San Antonio according to TWITTER. Is Steve Novak back with the Spurs?

Bill_Brasky
12-15-2011, 02:25 AM
Staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacked

Fireball
12-15-2011, 02:31 AM
just bring him in if you might need a clutch shot at the end of a quarter ... with him Spurs will not get their defensive mindset back ...

Dex
12-15-2011, 02:35 AM
Yes, now we can intimidate our opponents with the Novak/Bonner All-Charmin frontline. The floor will be spread so far, opposing teams will need binoculars.

slick'81
12-15-2011, 02:35 AM
excellent offseason continues

Bill_Brasky
12-15-2011, 02:41 AM
Yes, now we can intimidate our opponents with the Novak/Bonner All-Charmin frontline. The floor will be spread so far, opposing teams will need binoculars.

:lmao

timvp
12-15-2011, 02:49 AM
Few thoughts:

1. If 60% of your bigmen rotation is composed of Novak, Blair and Bonner, the Spurs might as well place a welcome mat under the rim.

2. Why wait so long to get Novak into camp? The only thing that makes sense to me is that the Spurs went after other bigs, struck out and settled for Novak. Even then, bringing him to camp at the beginning was probably the smarter move.

3. The Spurs can't stop looking around for a legit big. Novak is really just an immobile small forward. Bonner is Karl Malone compared to Novak. A big center needs to be brought in desperately.

ElNono
12-15-2011, 03:22 AM
The good news is that there's going to be plenty of floor spacing for opponents to stroll to the rim...

SenorSpur
12-15-2011, 03:33 AM
That's all they were missing. Now the Spurs can finally give RJ the ol' amnesty heave-ho.

UnWantedTheory
12-15-2011, 03:39 AM
I shall worry no longer.

Solid D
12-15-2011, 07:17 AM
Steve is a 13th man, most likely being brought in as another relief pitcher. He plays the same role as Matt. Pop loves shooters who, when called upon, can go in and make a shot. Tired legs equate to short/missed shots and with many b2b games and a compact schedule, regular rotation guys will get some games off.

In the event of a trade that includes Matt, Steve would step into the primary Shooting Big slot. I DO NOT see Novak as the 5th Big outside of that scenario.

I doubt Pop will ever eliminate that role from his scheme. it's burned into his brain.

spurspokesman
12-15-2011, 07:34 AM
Few thoughts:

1. If 60% of your bigmen rotation is composed of Novak, Blair and Bonner, the Spurs might as well place a welcome mat under the rim.

2. Why wait so long to get Novak into camp? The only thing that makes sense to me is that the Spurs went after other bigs, struck out and settled for Novak. Even then, bringing him to camp at the beginning was probably the smarter move.

3. The Spurs can't stop looking around for a legit big. Novak is really just an immobile small forward. Bonner is Karl Malone compared to Novak. A big center needs to be brought in desperately.

Agreed. This is comical.

spurspokesman
12-15-2011, 07:34 AM
Few thoughts:

1. If 60% of your bigmen rotation is composed of Novak, Blair and Bonner, the Spurs might as well place a welcome mat under the rim.

2. Why wait so long to get Novak into camp? The only thing that makes sense to me is that the Spurs went after other bigs, struck out and settled for Novak. Even then, bringing him to camp at the beginning was probably the smarter move.

3. The Spurs can't stop looking around for a legit big. Novak is really just an immobile small forward. Bonner is Karl Malone compared to Novak. A big center needs to be brought in desperately.

Agreed. This is comical. Bonner and novak. They both are blood in the water.

Fpoonsie
12-15-2011, 07:37 AM
:lobt:

(Can't believe it took this long...)

Fireball
12-15-2011, 08:17 AM
Actually, is there a chance he just forgot something the last time around?

Muser
12-15-2011, 09:04 AM
Just wait for the inevitable game where he scores 6 3's in garbage time and GNSF starts 100 threads about how he should start.

cd98
12-15-2011, 09:05 AM
What's all the complaining about? Can't you see the master plan to tank this year for a higher draft pick?

Seventyniner
12-15-2011, 09:26 AM
Actually, is there a chance he just forgot something the last time around?

:lol

Headline: Steve Novak back in San Antonio...
...to pick up his lost wallet

lefty
12-15-2011, 09:29 AM
Yes, now we can intimidate our opponents with the Novak/Bonner All-Charmin frontline. The floor will be spread so far, opposing teams will need binoculars.
:lmao

Amuseddaysleeper
12-15-2011, 09:39 AM
I just can't see the Spurs trading Bonner. Even if it was for draft picks I'd be ecstatic, but I just can't wrap my head around Pop letting Bonner go.

Mel_13
12-15-2011, 09:40 AM
Yes, now we can intimidate our opponents with the Novak/Bonner All-Charmin frontline. The floor will be spread so far, opposing teams will need binoculars.

:lol

Dex, my nominee for Most Valuable Poster of the 2011 NBA offseason.

cantthinkofanything
12-15-2011, 09:45 AM
Few thoughts:

1. If 60% of your bigmen rotation is composed of Novak, Blair and Bonner, the Spurs might as well place a welcome mat under the rim.

2. Why wait so long to get Novak into camp? The only thing that makes sense to me is that the Spurs went after other bigs, struck out and settled for Novak. Even then, bringing him to camp at the beginning was probably the smarter move.

3. The Spurs can't stop looking around for a legit big. Novak is really just an immobile small forward. Bonner is Karl Malone compared to Novak. A big center needs to be brought in desperately.

Bonner isn't Karl Malone compared to Gary Coleman.

8FOR!3
12-15-2011, 12:16 PM
Honestly though, at least Novak can shoot. He IS going to spread the floor, because unlike with Bonner, people actually respect his shot. He's probably one of if not the purest shooter in the league. Quick release, there's times where I could see a player like him being valuable (Last second shot after a timeout.) Red Rocket, not so much. Maybe Pop will do something with Bonner. Doubt it, but you never know...

mookie2001
12-15-2011, 12:36 PM
Novak isn't a post player or "a big" though, as everyone seems to think, he plays wing and he's a shooter he's not a pivot nor does he guard post players. We are playing small ball eternally. Being tall doesn't make you a power forward

tdunk21
12-15-2011, 01:47 PM
@JMcDonald_SAEN
Steve Novak is in the gym today. Spurs working on (re)signing him for camp.

Solid D
12-15-2011, 01:52 PM
Novak isn't a post player or "a big" though, as everyone seems to think, he plays wing and he's a shooter he's not a pivot nor does he guard post players. We are playing small ball eternally. Being tall doesn't make you a power forward

Nice to see you again, Mook! Actually, Novak does defend opposing Bigs...just not very well. Not very well at all. He has played mostly the 4 during his 2 10-day contracts plus the remainder of 2011 with the Spurs. He was particularly useful when Matt Bonner was throwing up bricks 8 out of 9 times during a stretch there.

benefactor
12-15-2011, 01:52 PM
The defense oriented Pop is gone. The older he get's the more he turns into Don Nelson.

lcroock
12-15-2011, 01:52 PM
Classic stuff from Manu!

manuginobili Manu Ginobili
Did u come to see the Alamo? Good. Enjoy the city. "@stevenovak20: Just landed in San Antonio! Great to be back!"
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Buddy Holly
12-15-2011, 01:54 PM
The defense oriented Pop is gone. The older he get's the more he turns into Don Nelson.

Because he signed Novak, the back up's back up? :lol

YaY for overreacting!

tdunk21
12-15-2011, 01:54 PM
Classic stuff from Manu!

manuginobili Manu Ginobili
Did u come to see the Alamo? Good. Enjoy the city. "@stevenovak20: Just landed in San Antonio! Great to be back!"
6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

:lol

lefty
12-15-2011, 02:05 PM
Manu :lmao


He is funnier than TP :stirpot:

benefactor
12-15-2011, 02:41 PM
Because he signed Novak, the back up's back up? :lol

YaY for overreacting!
Nah...it has more to do with watching a whole season of gimmicky, fools gold basketball last season. But think what you want.

benefactor
12-15-2011, 02:43 PM
Btw...do us all a favor and remind us who the backups are on the front line.

Fireball
12-15-2011, 02:45 PM
is there something like fools crystal .... ah yes ... glass

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/388635_10150404350476981_25781101980_8409102_94563 768_n.jpg

Buddy Holly
12-15-2011, 02:47 PM
Btw...do us all a favor and remind us who the backups are on the front line.

Novak is more of a 3 than a PF or C.

But since you asked. Bonner (:bang) behind Tim and Blair behind Tiago.

benefactor
12-15-2011, 02:48 PM
Novak is a 3 not a PF or C.
Keep on saying that if it makes you feel better.

benefactor
12-15-2011, 02:49 PM
lol didn't edit fast enough

Buddy Holly
12-15-2011, 02:49 PM
Keep on saying that if it makes you feel better.

Read my revised post.

Darkwaters
12-15-2011, 03:06 PM
Since he knows the system he'll be good

timvp
12-15-2011, 03:09 PM
Novak isn't a post player
True.


or "a big" though

True. He has the shoulder width of a 12-year-old.


he plays wing

True. He is always on the wing.


and he's a shooter he's not a pivot

True.


nor does he guard post players.

True. He doesn't guard anyone.

He's supposed to guard post players, but doesn't (or, maybe, can't).

And there's the rub.

wildbill2u
12-15-2011, 03:30 PM
Since Neal is out for at least several games according to Pop, they may have brought Novak in for some short term 10 day contract(s) since he knows the system and is a legitimate 3 pt shooter. Good insurance against Neal's return.

With all these games scrunched up together there isn't going to be time to wait on healing injuries. Lose a few games early and you'll be behind in the W-L standings quick.

benefactor
12-15-2011, 03:31 PM
10 days don't start until later in the season. The have to sign him for the minimum.

temujin
12-15-2011, 03:33 PM
Novak? Steve Novak?

Alegher!

therealtruth
12-15-2011, 05:39 PM
is there something like fools crystal .... ah yes ... glass

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/388635_10150404350476981_25781101980_8409102_94563 768_n.jpg

:lol

Bonner's release is not fast enough to do any damage in the playoffs. He needs wide open 3's to have a chance of hitting. The only other thing I think Bonner can do is take a few steps back to give him more time to get the 3 off.

If Horry had a release as slow as Bonner he wouldn't have been able to hit those 3's against the Kings in '02 and Pistons in '05. Basically if Pop wants to play spread the floor he needs someone that can hit the 3 if the defender isn't close enough to block the shot. Otherwise the defender is going to cheat because he knows he can contest at the last second.

bigdog
12-15-2011, 07:02 PM
I'll just say this: his jumpshot is beyond smooth, has a quick release, and has made shots for us. Besides that, his defense is ghost-like, and isn't very useful in any other way. If he plays the 3, he should guard the 3. Just because he's 6-10 doesn't mean he should guard the 4 or 5. Sign him only to be a shooting 3. None of this small ball 4 or 5 nonsense.

ElNono
12-15-2011, 07:37 PM
Well, the good news is that the last time he was with the team, he didn't get minutes ahead of Splitter...







oh wait :(

Giuseppe
12-15-2011, 07:45 PM
The defense oriented Pop is gone. The older he get's the more he turns into Don Nelson.


Bonner's release is not fast enough to do any damage in the playoffs.

2 standouts posts in an otherwise superlative thread.

superbigtime
12-15-2011, 07:47 PM
Novak! Awesome!!! High flyin tighty whitey! Veteran presence to teach our pre-school minded young-uns. Only complaint is that he isn't shorter. He may be too tall for this team. I hope they sign him for at least 3 years.

tdunk21
12-19-2011, 09:50 PM
Spurs waive Novak after only four days

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/12/19/spurs-waive-novak-after-only-four-days/


Backup forward Steve Novak was waived by the Spurs on Monday, shortly before the team’s scrimmage at the AT&T Center.

Novak had been signed to a contract on Thursday. He played on the team for 23 games last season, averaging 4.0 points in 8.6 minutes per game.

His departure comes on the heels of Antonio McDyess’ retirement earlier this season.

Adrian Wojnarowski reported that Novak likely is headed to New York with a guaranteed contract.

timtonymanu
12-19-2011, 09:53 PM
TBH, I'm always gonna remember Novak fucking up the inbounds pass to Manu against Portland. I was there live to see that shit. The fan behind me laughed his ass off.

ElNono
12-19-2011, 10:00 PM
That was fast

ceperez
12-19-2011, 11:25 PM
That was fast

odd to have sgned and then released before the season. likely he had a better deal elsewhere (i.e. new york)

spurs need more of a defensive big and the roster appears full.

parker, ford, joseph - pg
ginoblli, neal, anderson - sg
jeferson, leonard - sf
bonner, blair - pf
duncan, spltter - c

12 players, with joseph likely to Austin.

SenorSpur
12-19-2011, 11:58 PM
They should've released Bonner instead. Okay, Okay. Just a wet dream.

Seriously though, what was this exercise for? Why the hell would they bring the guy in for a cup of coffee and release him days later?

ChumpDumper
12-20-2011, 01:23 AM
Might have kept him if the Knicks hadn't guaranteed a contract.

Consider the bullet dodged.

Obstructed_View
12-20-2011, 01:25 AM
Thank you, Knicks. He was beyond awful and probably would have stolen minutes from Splitter.

timvp
12-20-2011, 01:26 AM
-Spurs invite Novak to camp.

-Novak says not without a guarantee.

-Spurs say no thanks.

-No other team comes calling with any sort of guarantee.

-Novak asks if offer to come to camp still stands.

-Spurs say yes.

-Novak comes to San Antonio.

-Knicks lose Shawne Williams to the Nets.

-Knicks look for cheap PF who can shoot.

-Spot Novak.

-Offer Novak a guarantee.

-Novak asks Spurs for release.

-Spurs say okay.

-Novak leaves.

DejuanorwhatDude
12-20-2011, 12:47 PM
lol

WildcardManu
12-20-2011, 03:12 PM
We didn't need 2 Bonners

elemento
12-20-2011, 03:14 PM
So we released a poor's man Bonner

non-issue