Media bias for...

[Yonivore]

...Dummies

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[ChumpDumper]

To you get paid to link this site?

[spursncowboys]

lmao. This is what I have seen since 00. Most people get it, except the liberals who think CNN and MSNBC are balanced and Foxnews isn't.

[Halberto]

Yoni.....




....always starts threads like this for killer suspense.

[Yonivore]

Another segment on media bias.

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[Spurminator]

lmao. This is what I have seen since 00. Most people get it, except the liberals who think CNN and MSNBC are balanced

No one thinks MSNBC is balanced.


and Foxnews isn't.

Do you think Fox News is balanced?

[ChumpDumper]

Another segment on media bias.

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[Yonivore]

No one thinks MSNBC is balanced.
MSNBC thinks it is.


Do you think Fox News is balanced?
And fair.

But, really, that's not the point, is it?

[scott]

I've found all media outlets to be fair and balanced, so long as they agree with everything I already believe.

[ChumpDumper]

MSNBC thinks it is.


And fair.

But, really, that's not the point, is it?Oh, it's definitely the point.

[scott]

But we all know PajamasTV is the creme de la creme of journalistic integrity.

[scott]

Really the problem is that Adolph Hitler ruined the toothbrush mustache for everyone.

[Spurminator]

MSNBC thinks it is.

Not who SnC was talking about.



And fair.

But, really, that's not the point, is it?

It was a question unrelated to whatever point you're trying to make with your video I'm not going to watch, and it wasn't directed to you.

[Yonivore]

But we all know PajamasTV is the creme de la creme of journalistic integrity.
I don't know about PajamasTV but, Bill Whittle seems to be in command of his subject. What in the video is factually incorrect or biased by omission or commission?

[scott]

I don't know about PajamasTV but, Bill Whittle seems to be in command of his subject. What in the video is factually incorrect or biased by omission or commission?

Um... yes.

[scott]

Both sides of the biased media buffoons are filled with "[Insert other guy] is Hitler". Both are foolish and stupid for it.

[spursncowboys]

No one thinks MSNBC is balanced.



Do you think Fox News is balanced?

I think they do a better job, as far as their actual reporters. Of course all their actual hosts for the shows at night are all conservatives and traditionalists.

[Yonivore]

Um... yes.
So, you didn't watch?

[scott]

I think they do a better job, as far as their actual reporters. Of course all their actual hosts for the shows at night are all conservatives and traditionalists.

Just at night?

[scott]

Bottom line: anyone who watches MSNBC, FoxNews, or CNN and thinks they are getting "fair and balanced" news is a moron.

[scott]

So, you didn't watch?

I did. Didn't see any of the comparisons of Obama to Hitler made by FoxNews in the video. That would be "bias by omission".

Also, I want that 9 minutes of my life back.

[Spurminator]

I think they do a better job, as far as their actual reporters. Of course all their actual hosts for the shows at night are all conservatives and traditionalists.

And in the morning. And Megyn Kelly. And whoever decides what outrage will be manufactured for the day.

[Yonivore]

Bottom line: anyone who watches MSNBC, FoxNews, or CNN and thinks they are getting "fair and balanced" news is a moron.
So was anyone that watched Walter Cronkite and read Walter Duranty.

Which, by the way, was the point of the video. People do watch and think they are getting the truth and they then make decisions based on that "truth."

Lyndon Johnson knew the truth of the Tet Offensive; it was a undeniable United States military victory. Even the Communist enemy agreed. But, when Walter Cronkite declared the war unwinnable in the context of reporting on what was, by all accounts, a military victory, Johnson knew he had lost America because -- well, Cronkite was the most trusted man in America. What I didn't know at the time was, Walter Cronkite was an avowed One World Government supporter and spoke to groups, sympathetic to that cause, and spoke openly (to them) about the need for the United States people to face the fact they were going to have to give up some of their sovereignty.

Tell me, scott; would he have been the most trusted man in America if American had known that little fact?

And, Walter Duranty, well, he merely won a Pulitzer for hiding the atrocities of Stalin and deriding or mocking those, in his profession, who tried to tell the truth.

Tell me, scott; would the world have been different if Americans had known, earlier, about Stalin's millions of murders?

And, today's media is chocked full of current-day Cronkite and Duranty wannabes.

That was the point of the video.

[Yonivore]

And in the morning. And Megyn Kelly. And whoever decides what outrage will be manufactured for the day.
I don't like the mixing of opinion and news on channels devoted to appearing to be all news all the time any more than you do but, when it comes to actual news reports; I think Fox holds to a standard the others do not.

[spursncowboys]

Bottom line: anyone who watches MSNBC, FoxNews, or CNN and thinks they are getting "fair and balanced" news is a moron.

Wow. How absolute for such an enlightened open minded person.

[Yonivore]

Wow. How absolute for such an enlightened open minded person.
I'm not sure scott hasn't been given more deference, in this forum, than he deserves.

[scott]

So was anyone that watched Walter Cronkite and read Walter Duranty.

Which, by the way, was the point of the video. People do watch and think they are getting the truth and they then make decisions based on that "truth."

Lyndon Johnson knew the truth of the Tet Offensive; it was a undeniable United States military victory. Even the Communist enemy agreed. But, when Walter Cronkite declared the war unwinnable in the context of reporting on what was, by all accounts, a military victory, Johnson knew he had lost America because -- well, Cronkite was the most trusted man in America. What I didn't know at the time was, Walter Cronkite was an avowed One World Government supporter and spoke to groups, sympathetic to that cause, and spoke openly (to them) about the need for the United States people to face the fact they were going to have to give up some of their sovereignty.

Tell me, scott; would he have been the most trusted man in America if American had known that little fact?

And, Walter Duranty, well, he merely won a Pulitzer for hiding the atrocities of Stalin and deriding or mocking those, in his profession, who tried to tell the truth.

Tell me, scott; would the world have been different if Americans had known, earlier, about Stalin's millions of murders?

And, today's media is chocked full of current-day Cronkite and Duranty wannabes.

That was the point of the video.

Anyone who is going to get "that point" of the video, already knew that.

The "point" of the video that most of its viewers will get is "the media is a liberal propaganda machine!"

Bottom line: MSNBC is the same as FoxNews, just on the other side of the political spectrum, with CNN not quite as far to the left as MSNBC. 24-hour News isn't about news, it's about appealing to the herd, and you are an example of those who have fallen right in step.

[Yonivore]

Anyone who is going to get "that point" of the video, already knew that.

The "point" of the video that most of its viewers will get is "the media is a liberal propaganda machine!"

Bottom line: MSNBC is the same as FoxNews, just on the other side of the political spectrum, with CNN not quite as far to the left as MSNBC. 24-hour News isn't about news, it's about appealing to the herd, and you are an example of those who have fallen right in step.
As it was in the days of Cronkite and Duranty.

And, I don't watch any of the news channels. I watch local news and get the rest online -- from various sources.

[scott]

Wow. How absolute for such an enlightened open minded person.

You think CNN, MSNBC and FoxNews are "fair and balanced"?

Keeping open the possibility that invisible pink elephants created the universe doesn't make a person open-minded, it makes them delusional.

[scott]

I'm not sure scott hasn't been given more deference, in this forum, than he deserves.

Challenge me on facts, and let's see what happens.

[Yonivore]

Challenge me on facts, and let's see what happens.
:lmao

How you've fallen.

On what facts would you like to be challenged?

Is $240,000 more or less than $249,000? There, start with that one.

[scott]

:lmao

How you've fallen.

On what facts would you like to be challenged?

Is $240,000 more or less than $249,000? There, start with that one.

You mean how you think $240,000 is less than $159,000?

There is a reason you have a reputation for being intellectually dishonest.

Edit: for the sake of this thread, I'll move this to the Rick Perry retires thread.

[Yonivore]

You mean how you think $240,000 is less than $159,000?

There is a reason you have a reputation for being intellectually dishonest.
That would make $100,000 less than $90,000.

Whether the Governor stayed in or left office when he became eligible to draw from his retirement account only affected the amount of the State's contribution and the ERS annuity -- both of which benefit from his decision to stay in office and accept a smaller annuity.

[scott]

I'll respond to that post in the Perry thread.

[Yonivore]

I'll respond to that post in the Perry thread.
Okay, fair enough. I'm pretty much done there and, I do apologize for dragging it in here by reference.

So, did the reporter -- not a commentator or someone doing a piece for an opinion program -- demonstrate a clear liberal bias in her different reporting on when Obama was portrayed as a Nazi than when Bush was?

And, are you aware of any Fox reportor -- not a commentator or someone doing a piece for an opinion program -- demonstrating a similar conservative bias?

There, opine.

[scott]

Yes, CNN is full of a liberal bias. I've pretty well stated that.

There are countless of examples of FoxNews anchors demonstrating a conservative bias.

The producer of the video in your OP also demonstrated bias by only showing one side of bias.

So, back to what we already knew: they are all biased.

[Yonivore]

Yes, CNN is full of a liberal bias. I've pretty well stated that.

There are countless of examples of FoxNews anchors demonstrating a conservative bias.

The producer of the video in your OP also demonstrated bias by only showing one side of bias.

So, back to what we already knew: they are all biased.
From what source are you informed of events?

[scott]

From what source are you informed of events?

I'm not. As far as current events go, I admit to being rather uninformed.

[scott]

I'll elaborate: the only things I watch that have anything to do with current events are The Daily Show and Colbert, and I watch them fully aware of their biases in addition to the fact they are comedy shows.

[TeyshaBlue]

Really the problem is that Adolph Hitler ruined the toothbrush mustache for everyone.

Not to mention the damage done to bowl cuts.

[ChumpDumper]

As it was in the days of Cronkite and Duranty.

And, I don't watch any of the news channels. I watch local news and get the rest online -- from various sources.Sources which are more biased than 24hr news channels.

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10 Stupidest Moments of Fox and Friends

10. DOOCY MAKES AL GORE JOKE WITH A RANDOM MAN DRESSED AS A POLAR BEAR IN THE BACKGROUND

9. CARLSON THINKS, AS PRESIDENT, RICK PERRY MIGHT FOREGO AIR FORCE ONE TO TRAVEL BY HORSE

8. PETER DOOCY DUBS CHINESE PRODIGY LANG LANG "THE JUSTIN BIEBER OF BEETHOVEN"

7. FOX & FRIENDS ATTACKS NICKELODEON, SPONGEBOB FOR "PUSHING A GLOBAL WARMING AGENDA" BASED ON "UNPROVEN SCIENCE"

6. DOOCY MOCKS OBAMA FOR USING BINDER CLIP TO HOLD PAPER TOGETHER

5. KILMEADE TOUTS VA CONCEALED WEAPON LAW: "GRAB YOUR GUN AND GET A DRINK AND GO DRINK IN VIRGINIA"

4. KILMEADE ON U.N. SEC. GEN. BAN-KI MOON: "I'VE EATEN THERE BEFORE"

3. FOX & FRIENDS EXPLAINS OIL DRILLING: "JUST POKE A HOLE IN THE GROUND"

2. KILMEADE CITES HIS ROOMBA TO ARGUE FOR REPLACING AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS WITH "ROBOTS"

1. KILMEADE AND JOHNSON RECOMMEND PROFILING AND ASKING "ARE YOU HERE FOR JIHAD?" TO PREVENT TERRORISM

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Roger Ailes has assembled a formidably classy team of stinkin assholes and bimbo blondes.

[ElNono]

Keeping open the possibility that invisible pink elephants created the universe doesn't make a person open-minded, it makes them delusional.

Or gullible.

[ElNono]

And Yoni seemingly just figured out that people have differing opinions... and thus lean to watch what appeals to them the most...

[Wild Cobra]

To you get paid to link this site?
You just can't stand the truth, can you Chumpie boy?

[greyforest]

just keep the peasants confused and fighting each other and nobody will know what the fuck is going on!

[Wild Cobra]

just keep the peasants confused and fighting each other and nobody will know what the fuck is going on!
It's worse than that. Anyone with the audacity to run against established politicians have their entire life scrutinize, and people come out with lies for the publicity. We get the politicians we have because as a nation, we not only allow it, we thrive on seeing the larger than life people fall.

[Winehole23]

like Barack Obama?

[Winehole23]

oh and, for dummies is right

[Yonivore]

I'll elaborate: the only things I watch that have anything to do with current events are The Daily Show and Colbert, and I watch them fully aware of their biases in addition to the fact they are comedy shows.
On what standard do you rely to judge the amount of bias introduced into your news consumption form Stewart and Colbert?

And, since you admit to being uninformed on current events - on what source do you make the assertion FoxNews is as biased to the right as just about every other television news source is to the left?

[scott]

On what standard do you rely to judge the amount of bias introduced into your news consumption form Stewart and Colbert?

And, since you admit to being uninformed on current events - on what source do you make the assertion FoxNews is as biased to the right as just about every other television news source is to the left?

Some of us are capable of thinking for ourselves, and don't rely on outside sources to force feed these kinds of things to us.

You're clearly not one of those people.

[Yonivore]

Some of us are capable of thinking for ourselves, and don't rely on outside sources to force feed these kinds of things to us.
But, the thinking that informs how we view events -- unless we are first-hand witnesses to those events -- has to come from somewhere external to our brains.

So, what's your external source?

[scott]

But, the thinking that informs how we view events -- unless we are first-hand witnesses to those events -- has to come from somewhere external to our brains.

So, what's your external source?

What my external source of being able to determine bias of cable news networks?

I don't need one. Aliens just beamed in inherent knowledge into my brain, I'm just lucky that way.

[Yonivore]

What my external source of being able to determine bias of cable news networks?

I don't need one. Aliens just beamed in inherent knowledge into my brain, I'm just lucky that way.
Okay.