Kim Jong Il dead?

[scott]

That's the buzz on Twitter. Nothing on CNN, FoxNews, MSNBC yet.

Edit: MSNBC now has a breaking news banner.

[scott]

FoxNews also has a breaking news banner now.

CNN busy running important stories about runaway golf carts

[Spurminator]

North Korean state TV is reporting his death.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/19/us-korea-north-idUSTRE7BI05B20111219

[scott]

Finally they post an AP story.

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/18/9544976-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-il-dies

[baseline bum]

Nice.

[scott]

The Kim Jong Un era has begun

[CosmicCowboy]

The Kim Jong Un era has begun

It should be interesting to see if junior can hold it together...

[mavs>spurs]

Is the son just as crazy and stupid as he is?

[mavs>spurs]

It should be interesting to see if junior can hold it together...

Eh, don't kid yourself world leaders never wield much influence. The same people who were advising daddy will be advising him on every move he makes as well.

[baseline bum]

It's always sad when the father (Dear Leader) outlives the son tbh.

[scott]

That leaves only Ali Khamenei and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (take your pick) left from the Bush Axis of Evil.

[Spurtacus]

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[baseline bum]

That leaves only Ali Khamenei and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (take your pick) left from the Bush Axis of Evil.

Cheney's still kicking too.

[scott]

Do leaders of declared enemies die in three too? Bin Laden, Kim Jong... ?

[CosmicCowboy]

Do leaders of declared enemies die in three too? Bin Laden, Kim Jong... ?

gaddafi...

[scott]

gaddafi...

Was he a declared enemy of the US like these other guys? (that's a serious question)

[Agloco]

Is the son just as crazy and stupid as he is?

What do you care? It's not like they'll acquire nukes and start threatening people. :lol

[Spurminator]

Castro probably any day now, too.

[CosmicCowboy]

Was he a declared enemy of the US like these other guys? (that's a serious question)

Seemed to be after they started slinging cruise missiles at him...

[Pelicans78]

That game Homefront predicted these two events would happen in 2012 :wow
That Kim Jong Un is one messed up motherfucker. Check out the backstory for Homefront.

wMwVAAoPxfE

[scott]

Chuck Norris and Jack Bauer are just taking care of business before they go on holiday.

[scott]

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[scott]

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[Pelicans78]

We're so screwed in 2027.

[mavs>spurs]

What do you care? It's not like they'll acquire nukes and start threatening people. :lol

They already have, so why aren't we worried about them instead of Iran again?

[baseline bum]

It's ok... this guy's holding it down now.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01731/KimJong-un_1731187c.jpg

[baseline bum]

He might even get the hotel open.

[Pelicans78]

North Korea has nukes, but Iranian nukes are troublesome due to their terrorism and how they can affect the world's oil. Plus, with them being a Shiite Muslim country, they can use the nukes to throw their weight around against neighboring Sunni countries.

[Agloco]

They already have, so why aren't we worried about them instead of Iran again?

Thanks for the news flash. You answered the question with 3 three words you wrote. It's obvious that you must treat the NK situation with a bit more caution.

[lefty]

You guys are so screwed :lol

[ElNono]

Cheney's still kicking too.

:lol

[CubanMustGo]

He might even get the hotel open.

Gotta admit, it's looking better these days

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Ryugyeong_Hotel_on_February_2011.jpg/250px-Ryugyeong_Hotel_on_February_2011.jpg

[Stringer_Bell]

I always thought NK would come up with some myth for Kim Jong Il to make it seem like he lived forever. I think admitting he died is really strange on their part, I don't think his son will reign nearly as long as his father - maybe a coup or perhaps the powers that be over there are signaling change to the crazy ass backwards policies of old.

Or maybe he's not really dead.....I wanna see a body!

[Wild Cobra]

Cheney's still kicking too.
So is Obama.

[boutons_deux]

dickhead has murdered was more than Barry

[The Reckoning]

some south korean nationals i know insist it must be from him getting a "favor" based on his personal life.

all you can do is speculate.

is castro next?

[baseline bum]

Gotta admit, it's looking better these days

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Ryugyeong_Hotel_on_February_2011.jpg/250px-Ryugyeong_Hotel_on_February_2011.jpg

I bet it looks awful inside though.

[Yonivore]

I guess there'll be no more updates to this blog (http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/).


http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvdxjr2vPS1qewv1lo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId =AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1324389446&Signature=9fQDx28Ve348OV7hhSzZqcyhJD0%3D
They probably had to ship every casing of meat they could get their hands on, to this one little store, for this photo op.

And, in honor of Dear Leader, they've turned off the lights this evening:


http://1stopkorea.com/images/nk-nolights.jpg
Oh, wait! That's the way it always is.

[JoeChalupa]

Could there be an uprising soon?

[Yonivore]

Could there be an uprising soon?
More likely, a show of force. They're already test firing missiles (http://news.yahoo.com/n-korea-test-fires-short-range-missile-report-130006284.html).

And, don't doubt they're also doing so, internally, to the millions of North Koreans starving on the communist farms.

[JoeChalupa]

The average North Korean makes $900 per year. Kim Jong Il spent $700,000 per year on Hennessey cognac. http://thkpr.gs/tXbC2V

[greyforest]

If the USA actually wanted to go after a dangerous country with WMDs and an imprisoned populous it would have invaded NK instead of Iraq

[CosmicCowboy]

If the USA actually wanted to go after a dangerous country with WMDs and an imprisoned populous it would have invaded NK instead of Iraq

Uhhhh...a little weak on your history, dumbass? That didn't work so well last time.

[greyforest]

Uhhhh...a little weak on your history, dumbass? That didn't work so well last time.

No one is a bigger dumbass than you. I hope that God exists so that he can judge you when you die.

[CosmicCowboy]

No one is a bigger dumbass than you. I hope that God exists so that he can judge you when you die.

Ahhh...so you WEREN'T aware that the last time we invaded North Korea we got our asses kicked? A little geopolitical difference there with China and Russia so close...

[greyforest]

You aren't aware that North Korea didn't exist until after that war.

[CosmicCowboy]

You aren't aware that North Korea didn't exist until after that war.

:lmao

Like I said, you need to brush up on your history, dumbass. Korea was divided in 1945 after WWII.

[greyforest]

North and South Korea both called themselves Korea:


Both North and South Korea claimed sovereignty over the Korean Peninsula as a whole, which led to the Korean War of 1950. The Armistice Agreement of 1953 ended the fighting; however, the two countries are officially still at war against each other, as a peace treaty was never signed. Both states were accepted into the United Nations in 1991.

The semantics are useless to argue. My point is the same.

[CosmicCowboy]

North and South Korea both called themselves Korea:



The semantics are useless to argue. My point is the same.

Semantics?

:lmao

Even your reference calls them North Korea before the Korean War...

[CosmicCowboy]

:lmao

[greyforest]

Right, here's my point which you strawmanned the fuck out of:


If the USA actually wanted to go after a dangerous country with WMDs and an imprisoned populous it would have invaded NK instead of Iraq

Go ahead and believe your government though. The Iraq war was definitely about liberating their population from a tyrant with WMDs.

[CosmicCowboy]

You aren't aware that North Korea didn't exist until after that war.


Right, here's my point which you strawmanned the fuck out of:



Go ahead and believe your government though. The Iraq war was definitely about liberating their population from a tyrant with WMDs.

Go ahead and believe we would do any better invading North Korea the second time.

[greyforest]

Go ahead and believe we would do any better invading North Korea the second time.

I don't necessarily believe that, but it would actually be justified.

North Korea IS run by a tyrannical dictator and DOES have WMDs, and if the USA wasn't lying then NK would clearly be TARGET NUMBER ONE.

The USA picked a really stupid lie to justify invasion of Iraq due to the existence of NK.

[CosmicCowboy]

I don't necessarily believe that, but it would actually be justified.

North Korea IS run by a tyrannical dictator and DOES have WMDs, and if the USA wasn't lying then NK would clearly be TARGET NUMBER ONE.

The USA picked a really stupid lie to justify invasion of Iraq due to the existence of NK.


yawn

:deadhorse

[greyforest]

oh fine, lets argue semantics some more.

how can there be north texans if there isn't a north texas??!?!? WTF

[CosmicCowboy]

oh fine, lets argue semantics some more.

how can there be north texans if there isn't a north texas??!?!? WTF

:deadhorse

[Yonivore]

If the USA actually wanted to go after a dangerous country with WMDs and an imprisoned populous it would have invaded NK instead of Iraq

http://hugemistakes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/china-flag.jpg

[Yonivore]

You aren't aware that North Korea didn't exist until after that war.
And, it exists because we settled for a cease fire because we had fought to a tie. Otherwise, the entire Korean peninsula would look like North Korea and my wife's best friend would most likely be dead instead of practicing medicine in America.

[Yonivore]

If the USA actually wanted to go after a dangerous country with WMDs and an imprisoned populous it would have invaded NK instead of Iraq
There's the small matter that al Qaeda would have been less likely to pour into North Korea, so we could kill them like cockroaches, than they were to pour into Iraq...which they did by the 10's of thousands and of which we killed by the 10's of thousands.

There's a strategery here, try to think globally, greyforest.

Also, it appears North Korea is in for some type of change. Let's hope Dear Dick Leader's passing will open an opportunity for Democratic reforms in the peninsula.

[Winehole23]

what wonders they worked in Gaza and Iraq

[DMC]

I saw this on a CNN article response on Saturday. I couldn't find information anywhere else about it, but the response talked about Kim's death in past tense.

[CosmicCowboy]

There's the small matter that al Qaeda would have been less likely to pour into North Korea, so we could kill them like cockroaches, than they were to pour into Iraq...which they did by the 10's of thousands and of which we killed by the 10's of thousands.

.

That's a terrible justification for Iraq. Those cocksuckers are like Mr. Smith in The Matrix.

[Yonivore]

That's a terrible justification for Iraq. Those cocksuckers are like Mr. Smith in The Matrix.
It wasn't the only justification but, if you're going to differentiate between North Korea and Iraq, it's a strong point.

That and not drawing China into a conflict while you're already fighting on one other front.

Then, of course, you start with all the justifications in the AUMF in Iraq that, alone, justified our action in Iraq.

[CosmicCowboy]

I'll just be glad when we are out completely. Fucking thieves. It pretty much takes a strong dictator to run those backwards ass countries over there.

[Winehole23]

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/thoughtful-animal/2011/12/19/the-psychology-of-dictatorship-kim-jong-il/

[greyforest]

I'll just be glad when we are out completely.

http://japanfocus.org/data/US_military_bases_in_the_world_2007.PNG
The sun never sets.

[Winehole23]

what's that dot in the Indian Ocean?

[Winehole23]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jksonc/images/dgworld.gif