Does it seem like no free agents don't like nor want to come to SA?

[Padron]

I know we are a small market team. But with Tony Parker and Tim Duncan and Coach Pop. Why isn't there anyone that wants join the trio is it the money or what. I don't know why no free agents pick San Antonio. What do you think?:wakeup

[SpurSpurSpurs]

No. Just not enough fund. We already acquired a star few years ago. Richard Jefferson, does it ring a bell?

[timtonymanu]

Spurs don't have the money to throw at free agents.

Spurs aren't appealing anymore when you have the Mavericks, the Lakers, the Thunders, and even the Clippers of the NBA.

Spurs were ousted by the 8th seed last April.

Pick your choice.

[NRHector]

Spurs don't get endorsments from the big markets

[ThePop]

Only reason anyone came here in the past is because we were a contender. Now, not so much.

[Buddy Holly]

Do people want them to just sign free agents regardless if we need them or not?

Spurs are strapped for any kind of cash to throw at worthy FA. Those FA's are signing with teams that are giving them more money. It's that simple.

It's not about chance to win or market size. But the numbers of zeros on the check.

Enough with these pointless threads already.

[Hoops Czar]

Even a half baked scrub like Josh Howard chose a dead beat franchise like the Jazz who are on the fast track to nowhere. Just embarrassing...

[timvp]

That triple negative makes my brain hurt.

[lefty]

https://twitter.com/fakecoachpop/status/148909553310892032

:lol

[Padron]

even a half baked scrub like josh howard chose a dead beat franchise like the jazz who are on the fast track to nowhere. Just embarrassing...




exactly what the hell, not even scrubs want to play here

[lefty]

Go Heat

[GSH]

It's not the night life or the weather. It's the team. This is obviously Tim Duncan's swan song. The offense belongs to a Big 3 that they can't be part of. There's no exciting group of young studs to join. They don't have the money to give up fat contracts. Right now, this is the place where careers go to die.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Most of the reasons have already been stated:

The Spurs are caught in a classic catch-22. No one wants to come here as they're not contendors. They're not contendors because no one wants to come here.

They're the oldest team in the league. And, you couple that with the city of San Antonio (which is nice in many ways) but isn't LA, NY or Miami, you've got the current situation.

I, for one, have no problem going back to the drawing board. That is to start with obtaining HIGH draft picks (that is 1-6) either by being bad enough to get more lottery balls or by trading talent, and DRAFTING elite players who will make the franchise back into a champion.

I think the FO wants to do this as well - but TP is really the only trading chip they currently possess and trading him NOW would be a clear sign to TD and Ginobili that they've lost faith. So, they're not going to do it. Call that stupid, call that mind-boggling, call it what you want - I call it classy!

I can wait a year or 2 or 5 to get back to prominence. I know the limitations that my city presents for my team. I have faith in the model that worked just 6 years ago. I'm not one of these "we gotta sign everyone NOW and win a championship immediately."

Call me stupid, call me mind-boggling, call me what you want. But ask yourself this - outside of signing Dwight Howard, who else is available right now that will help the Spurs get back to the Finals? Anyone else?

If not, then signing or not signing this guy or that guy doesn't matter...

[Buddy Holly]

Even a half baked scrub like Josh Howard chose a dead beat franchise like the Jazz who are on the fast track to nowhere. Just embarrassing...

They offered him more dumbass.

[Buddy Holly]

They're the oldest team in the league.

No they're not. Face palm.

That's where I stopped reading.

[Buddy Holly]

san antonio is poor
san antonio is basically mexico
san antonio has no night life
san antonio is conservative
san antonio has shitty road ways
san antonio has no public transit
san antonio has shitty weather



take your pick.

I'll pick: You suck at life.

[Mr. Body]

Is this team even a playoff team this year? Probably. But next year? Why play for a team going down, down, down? And may not even be in San Antonio in a few years once its chintzy-ass owner sells all its good players to boil it down to nothing for a sale?

[Buddy Holly]

Is this team even a playoff team this year? Probably. But next year? Why play for a team going down, down, down? And may not even be in San Antonio in a few years once its chintzy-ass owner sells all its good players to boil it down to nothing for a sale?

God this forum is going to shit. :bang

The Spurs have a 25 year lease with the at&t center. They're not going anywhere.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

No they're not. Face palm.

That's where I stopped reading.

Who's older? And by how much?

And if you stopped reading, then you totally missed the point...


all good though

[ThePop]

san antonio is poor
san antonio is basically mexico
san antonio has no night life
san antonio is conservative
san antonio has shitty road ways
san antonio has no public transit
san antonio has shitty weather



take your pick.

No hot chicks either.

[SenorSpur]

Let's keep it simply - they don't - and for a myriad of reasons.

Build through the draft.

[Buddy Holly]

Who's older? And by how much?

And if you stopped reading, then you totally missed the point...


all good though

Who's older?

Lakers
Celtics
Chicago
Dallas
Miami

There are only four Spurs players over the age of 30. Tim, Manu, RJ, Bonner.

Celtics: 6

Lakers: 8

Chicago: 5

Dallas: 8

Miami: 6

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Who's older?

Lakers
Celtics

There are only four Spurs players over the age of 30. Tim, Manu, RJ, Bonner.

Celtics: 6

Lakers: 8

Not sure how up to date, but link below states Spurs are the 3rd oldest team (I stand corrected) by average age.

http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/average-age-all-30-nba-teams-1463132/

The only teams older are the Lakers and Heat.

Both of those teams have superstar players on LARGE market teams in huge cities w/ many more fans, more excitement, different night life, etc.

Both those teams can be older and still attract.

[gospursgojas]

No, I dont not see why no one dont like to not come here.

[Buddy Holly]

Yes, both LARGE market teams in huge cities w/ many more fans, more excitement, different night life, etc.

Both those teams can be older and still attract.

I added to the list.

Age of a team has nothing to do with attracting a player. The amount of money you have and are willing to throw at the player plays way more into it than nightlife, age of the team, record, etc.

How that's so hard for people to understand is mind numbingly baffling.

It's one thing to be ignorant, just another to be stupid and hard headed. I don't mean you, just people in general who start threads like this.

[Buddy Holly]

Not sure how up to date, but link below states Spurs are the 3rd oldest team (I stand corrected) by average age.

http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/average-age-all-30-nba-teams-1463132/

The only teams older are the Lakers and Heat.

Both of those teams have superstar players on LARGE market teams in huge cities w/ many more fans, more excitement, different night life, etc.

Both those teams can be older and still attract.

That's an old calculation.

If you add the age of the most likely 12 man rotation, the average age is 27. It'd drop more if you added the young players that may or may not reside in the 13-15 spots.

[Buddy Holly]

No hot chicks either.

Is that how you rationalize never having a girlfriend?

[manufan10]

For most players it's all about $$$, and that is something the Spurs don't have right now. Teams are throwing that $$$ at players, and offering more than the Spurs. I think that's the major issue here. IMO, it has nothing to do with the city, night life, "no hot chicks," or being a contender. It's all about the Benjamins.

[eric365]

No. Just not enough fund. We already acquired a star few years ago. Richard Jefferson, does it ring a bell?

It was a trade, not a FA.
And spurs were still a contender 2 years ago

[Russ]

The amount of money you have and are willing to throw at the player plays way more into it than nightlife, age of the team, record, etc.

How that's so hard for people to understand is mind numbingly baffling.

Yes. No one would apply the same standards to their own employment that they apply to these players.

Can anyone imagine turning down more money for the myopic reasons that fans project onto their heroes? "What's the matter, don't you want to win?"


For most players it's all about $$$, and that is something the Spurs don't have right now. Teams are throwing that $$$ at players, and offering more than the Spurs. I think that's the major issue here. IMO, it has nothing to do with the city, night life, "no hot chicks," or being a contender. It's all about the Benjamins.

Even the Lakers (usually) have to play by these rules.

[GSH]

Is that how you rationalize never having a girlfriend?

:lmao Count on it. It couldn't just be that he is a toad.


And I love they guy who says we are the oldest team in the league, and then posts a link (out of date) that shows the Spurs as the third oldest team in the league. Earth to Short Bus - the teams that are older are ALL TITLE CONTENDERS! Funny how that works, huh?

[BanditHiro]

san antonio has shitty weather



take your pick.


actually the weather is pretty good.

[703 Spurz]

Not sure how up to date, but link below states Spurs are the 3rd oldest team (I stand corrected) by average age.

http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/average-age-all-30-nba-teams-1463132/

The only teams older are the Lakers and Heat.

Both of those teams have superstar players on LARGE market teams in huge cities w/ many more fans, more excitement, different night life, etc.

Both those teams can be older and still attract.

You provided a link yet you don't know fucking logic. Looking at that chart, these teams are older:

Miami 29.67
Dallas 28.53
Lakers 29.5
Denver 28.57
S.A. 28.31

They're the 5th oldest team

[GSH]

Yes. No one would apply the same standards to their own employment that they apply to these players.

Can anyone imagine turning down more money for the myopic reasons that fans project onto their heroes? "What's the matter, don't you want to win?"



Even the Lakers (usually) have to play by these rules.


There's no one-size-fits-all. No doubt some playes don't come here because of the comparitive lack of night life, or because of the money. But:

1. Whether you can imagine it or not, sometimes players DO play for less money, to have a shot at getting a ring. (Payton and Malone did it to come to the Lakers. LeBron and Bosh just did it in Miami. It happens every season.) When they do that, they pick a team with a really strong chance of winning it all this season. The Spurs are no longer one of those teams.
2. Some players don't pick where they want to play based on the number of night clubs or titty bars in the city. I know it's hard to believe, but a lot of us "hero worshippers" don't choose our residence that way, either.
3. The weather? You think the weather is a major factor in deciding where to go? They only have to spend about 70 days per year in the city. And, they are either in the gym or (according to you) in a night club.

And what do the rules have to do with the money? All 30 teams play by the same rules. That doesn't change the fact that the Lakers (for instance) have a $92 Million payroll. They DO throw more money at players than the Spurs can afford. Period. We know that many/most players go wherever the money is. The point is, the ones who don't aren't coming here anymore.

[Buddy Holly]

actually the weather is pretty good.

The guy was trolling. His entire list is bs.

[Buddy Holly]

You provided a link yet you don't know fucking logic. Looking at that chart, these teams are older:

Miami 29.67
Dallas 28.53
Lakers 29.5
Denver 28.57
S.A. 28.31

They're the 5th oldest team

And that's an old list from either last season or the season before.. Spurs are younger by a year this season. 27 years old.

[Interrohater]

I like San Antonio. I've lived all over the country and everywhere I go people talk about how beautiful it is. It's not "basically Mexico", which is a slightly racist thing to say. I also don't agree with people when they say that the location has nothing to do with a player's decision to sign somewhere. Of course that plays into it. How many high-profile free agents are scrambling to get to Oklahoma City? San Antonio is a relatively small city with very few venues to remain in the spotlight. A lot of NBA players are insanely ego-centric and the small-town feel of San Antonio, or at least the image of it, doesn't appeal to the fame-hungry.

[Giuseppe]

Maybe they're waiting until you've suffered enough pain.

[Mr. Body]

fags?

[Tyrone Jenkins]

You provided a link yet you don't know fucking logic. Looking at that chart, these teams are older:

Miami 29.67
Dallas 28.53
Lakers 29.5
Denver 28.57
S.A. 28.31

They're the 5th oldest team

Ah, you are correct (I didn't look hard enough).

I guess that changes things...everyone will want to sign w/ SA now!!!!