Y.H.'s call out Rant #2

[mavs>spurs]

It looks like the war pigs are about to pull another Iraq. In the orchestrated lead-up to the invasion of Iraq in 2003, a cabal of neocons and fellow travelers in the Pentagon contrived a number of lies – later explained away as “intelligence failures” (http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/world/middle-east/3536-the-big-lie-intelligence-failure-in-iraq.html) – in order to fabricate a consensus for mass murder.
The Bush neocons exploited the fantasies offered by Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41609536/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/curveball-i-lied-about-wmd-hasten-iraq-war/#.TvClxEqw45I), aka “Curveball,” a taxi driver who claimed to be an Iraqi chemical engineer with information on Saddam’s supposed chemical weapons program. It turned out al-Janabi was a drunken congenital liar (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/apr/03/iraq.usa1) who was trying to play the system to get a green card. Following the invasion and revelations that Curveball was a fake, the Bush administration blamed the CIA (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/16/curveball-questions-cia).
Fast-forward to 2011. Iran is in the crosshairs – part of the ambitious plan to take out seven countries in five years (http://www.salon.com/2007/10/12/wesley_clark/) (the war pigs are behind schedule) – and the transparently obvious fabrications for war are being hastily refried at the highest levels of government.
“Iraq had Ahmed Chalabi, Iyad Allawi and the informant Curveball selling fairy stories,” writes Felicity Arbuthnot (http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/content/view/full/112388). “Iran has Vyacheslav Danilenko, an expert in nanodiamonds, apparently doubling as a nuclear weapons expert, along with a plethora of unidentified spokespeople for ‘member states.’ Hardly rigid verifiable scholarship.”
The latest IAEA report on Iran’s nuclear program repeated the sensational claim previously reported by news media all over the world that a former Soviet nuclear weapons scientist had helped Iran construct a detonation system that could be used for a nuclear weapon, writes Gareth Porter (http://www.newstoday.com.bd/index.php?option=details&news_id=44165&date=2011-11-14). The Russian scientist is question is Danilenko, who is actually Ukrainian.
“It now appears that the IAEA and David Albright, the director of the International Institute for Science and Security [ISIS] in Washington, who was the source of the news reports about Danilenko, never bothered to check the accuracy of the original claim by an unnamed ‘Member State’ on which the IAEA based its assertion about his nuclear weapons background,” Porter explains.
The ISIS is supported by the usual suspect globalist foundations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Science_and_International_Security#B oard_and_funding), including the Ford Foundation, hence the CIA (http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/FordFandCIA.html), and the Rockefeller Brothers Fund.


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As we noted (http://www.prisonplanet.com/trilateral-commission-wants-war-with-iran.html) back in 2010, the globalists are determined to take out Iran. In June of 2010, Bilderberg sleuth Jim Tucker revealed from his trusted sources that the majority of Bilderberg members were in favor of military air strikes on Iran. Tucker said that many Bilderberg members, including Rockefeller Trilateralist bigwig Zbigniew Brzezinski (http://www.prisonplanet.com/bilderberg-agenda-revealed-globalists-in-crisis-supportive-of-attack-on-iran.html), were in favor of U.S. air strikes on Iran and were “leaning towards war,” although 100 per cent of members were not supportive of an attack.
Danilenko is the weak link in the latest scam to drum up support for an attack on Iran, now well behind schedule. As Porter notes, “Danilenko worked from the beginning of his career in a part of the Institute that specialized in the synthesis of diamonds,” not nuclear detonation systems.
“The fact that the IAEA and Albright were made aware of Danilenko’s nanodiamond work in Iran before embracing the ‘former Soviet nuclear weapons specialist’ story makes their failure to make any independent inquiry into his background even more revealing,” Porter concludes.
In other words, business as usual. The war pigs and their elite masters don’t even bother to devise convincing cover stories anymore. And why should they? Millions of Americans – including a few hundred in Congress – gobbled up the last bundle of lies (http://www.alternet.org/story/16274) without blinking. Many simply shrugged when it was later reported that the government had lied.
Like the Saudi ambassador fairy tale (http://www.infowars.com/u-s-accuses-iranians-of-alleged-plot-to-kill-saudi-envoy/) cobbled together to demonize Iran – only to be shot down as a farce (http://platform0.twitter.com/widgets/tweet_button.html?_=1306798862773&count=horizontal&counturl=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/30/western-troops-on-ground-libya&lang=en&related=mediaguardian&text=Al-Jazeera%20footage%20captures%20%27western%20troops %20on%20the%20ground%27%20in%20Libya&url=http://gu.com/p/2pdzy/tw&via=guardian) in short order – the IAEA story is merely one component of a series of lies and falsehoods engineered to grab transient headlines and then fade into the background as the globalists and their minions prepare to invade Iran, close down the Strait of Hormuz and thus the global economy, and kick off World War III.




http://www.infowars.com/curveball-redux-iaea-lies-to-push-case-for-attacking-iran/

[ElNono]

^ That's a sweet golden tooth, tbh

[4>0rings]

Where my Ron Paul videos homie?

[Winehole23]

I don't know anything about an invasion, but it appears the war with Iran is already well underway, inside Iran.

The covert war is on. The overt one is only a matter of time.

[4>0rings]

The President has to pull the trigger, and I doubt Obama is going to start a major war, not after Iraq/Afghan. If the repubs take office then things might change, as long as Obama is in office, there will not be a war with Iran UNLESS there is another catastrophic terrorist act like 9/11 done in America.

[Wild Cobra]

Infowars?

You've got to be kidding.

[Agloco]

“Iran has Vyacheslav Danilenko, an expert in nanodiamonds, apparently doubling as a nuclear weapons expert, along with a plethora of unidentified spokespeople for ‘member states.’ Hardly rigid verifiable scholarship.”

The latest IAEA report on Iran’s nuclear program repeated the sensational claim previously reported by news media all over the world that a former Soviet nuclear weapons scientist had helped Iran construct a detonation system that could be used for a nuclear weapon,

I warned you about people who don't understand the science behind such things (namely yourself). Doubling as a nuclear weapons expert? Of course, he's a miniaturized detonations expert. Folks with a casual interest don't realize that it takes more than just nuclear scientists to build these things. See my comments below



“It now appears that the IAEA and David Albright, the director of the International Institute for Science and Security [ISIS] in Washington, who was the source of the news reports about Danilenko, never bothered to check the accuracy of the original claim by an unnamed ‘Member State’ on which the IAEA based its assertion about his nuclear weapons background,” Porter explains.


Porter explains? Yet another blogger who isn't familiar enough with weapons technology to make the connection. He didn't do his homework on Danilenkos past ties either (more below). We did.



Danilenko is the weak link in the latest scam to drum up support for an attack on Iran, now well behind schedule. As Porter notes, “Danilenko worked from the beginning of his career in a part of the Institute that specialized in the synthesis of diamonds,” not nuclear detonation systems.
“The fact that the IAEA and Albright were made aware of Danilenko’s nanodiamond work in Iran before embracing the ‘former Soviet nuclear weapons specialist’ story makes their failure to make any independent inquiry into his background even more revealing,” Porter concludes.

I not sure if Mr. Porter read the Annex (we know from the club thread that you didn't).


lol starting a rant. For those who are interested, I have posted the entire IAEA report in the club forum with the relevant passages outlined.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5520637&postcount=62

Here's some more for you:


44. The Agency has strong indications that the development by Iran of the high explosives initiation system, and its development of the high speed diagnostic configuration used to monitor related experiments, were assisted by the work of a foreign expert who was not only knowledgeable in these technologies, but who, a Member State has informed the Agency, worked for much of his career with this technology in the nuclear weapon programme of the country of his origin. The Agency has reviewed publications by this foreign expert and has met with him. The Agency has been able to verify through three separate routes, including the expert himself, that this person was in Iran from about 1996 to about 2002, ostensibly to assist Iran in the development of a facility and techniques for making ultra-dispersed diamonds (“UDDs” or “nanodiamonds”), where he also lectured on explosion physics and its applications.

45. Furthermore, the Agency has received information from two Member States that, after 2003, Iran engaged in experimental research involving a scaled down version of the hemispherical initiation system and high explosive charge referred to in paragraph 43 above, albeit in connection with non-nuclear applications. This work, together with other studies made known to the Agency in which the same initiation system is used in cylindrical geometry, could also be relevant to improving and optimizing the multipoint initiation design concept relevant to nuclear applications.

This comes directly from the annex of the report I broke down for you to read YH. Unfortunately, for those who are only casually interested (ie don't read reports in detail) the connection between nano-diamond detonators and nuclear detonators isn't immediately clear.

The fact that Chelabynsk-70 was a Soviet nuclear weapons production installation which contained a specialized unit for detonation miniaturization used in Danilenkos work should offer you a clue.

That he happened to specialize in nanodiamond research and not in nuclear weapon fabrication is immaterial. His knowledge allows him to build any kind of detonation device which would be relevant to the fabrication of a weapon. Hence we investigated him as any prudent agency would do.

Is there a case for plausible deniability? Sure. The passages I outlined above admit as much. We inquired, researched and came away satisfied that Danilenko probably didn't directly aid the Iranians.

As an aside, you're probably still wondering how I'm so familiar with these reports aren't you? :lol

[Agloco]

But by all means, continue to post your crap here.

[m>s]

The President has to pull the trigger, and I doubt Obama is going to start a major war, not after Iraq/Afghan. If the repubs take office then things might change, as long as Obama is in office, there will not be a war with Iran UNLESS there is another catastrophic terrorist act like 9/11 done in America.

and where do you get the revenue to fund another war even if there is another terrorist attack on US soil?

[mouse]

I may have to "Edit" my Top 10 list.

[cheguevara]

The President has to pull the trigger, and I doubt Obama is going to start a major war, not after Iraq/Afghan. If the repubs take office then things might change, as long as Obama is in office, there will not be a war with Iran UNLESS there is another catastrophic terrorist act like 9/11 done in America.

sure but that won't stop Obama from shooting, jailing or watching US citizen's to his heart's content

[JoeChalupa]

:sleep

[spursncowboys]

I think we are over due for a covert war with Iran. BHO doing one thing right.

[ChumpDumper]

What is the Iranian threat to the US?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

What is the Iranian threat to the US?
They want to destroy :cryIsrael:cry


mother fucking :cryIsrael:cry

[Wild Cobra]

They want to destroy :cryIsrael:cry


mother fucking :cryIsrael:cry
They also want to destroy us. We are also infidels, and have a larger Jewish population than Israel does.

[ChumpDumper]

They also want to destroy us. We are also infidels, and have a larger Jewish population than Israel does.Really, when did their current religious leader say they wanted to destroy us as you claim?

[JoeChalupa]

IMHO, it is just a matter of time before Israel hits Iran. Not a question of if but when.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

They also want to destroy us. We are also infidels, and have a larger Jewish population than Israel does.
You are so fuckin stupid.

[Agloco]

They also want to destroy us. We are also infidels, and have a larger Jewish population than Israel does.

I think you're a bit off the rails here WC. Their animosity towards us extends only as far as the Eastern Mediterranean and Pakistan.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Thats not a rant. Thats a poorly formatted and even worse thought-out expression of what someone else other than yourself thinks. You should be ashamed of yourself even though you lack the honor, experience or the intelligence to do so properly.

[spursncowboys]

You are so fuckin stupid.

:lol
Really? From you?

[spursncowboys]

We should officially support regime change in Iran.

[RandomGuy]

I warned you about people who don't understand the science behind such things (namely yourself). Doubling as a nuclear weapons expert? Of course, he's a miniaturized detonations expert. Folks with a casual interest don't realize that it takes more than just nuclear scientists to build these things. See my comments below



Porter explains? Yet another blogger who isn't familiar enough with weapons technology to make the connection. He didn't do his homework on Danilenkos past ties either (more below). We did.



I not sure if Mr. Porter read the Annex (we know from the club thread that you didn't).


lol starting a rant. For those who are interested, I have posted the entire IAEA report in the club forum with the relevant passages outlined.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5520637&postcount=62

Here's some more for you:



This comes directly from the annex of the report I broke down for you to read YH. Unfortunately, for those who are only casually interested (ie don't read reports in detail) the connection between nano-diamond detonators and nuclear detonators isn't immediately clear.

The fact that Chelabynsk-70 was a Soviet nuclear weapons production installation which contained a specialized unit for detonation miniaturization used in Danilenkos work should offer you a clue.

That he happened to specialize in nanodiamond research and not in nuclear weapon fabrication is immaterial. His knowledge allows him to build any kind of detonation device which would be relevant to the fabrication of a weapon. Hence we investigated him as any prudent agency would do.

Is there a case for plausible deniability? Sure. The passages I outlined above admit as much. We inquired, researched and came away satisfied that Danilenko probably didn't directly aid the Iranians.

As an aside, you're probably still wondering how I'm so familiar with these reports aren't you? :lol

:rollin

This may be the single greatest moment I have ever had debating fucktarded conspiracy theories with the morons who subject everyone to their bukkakes of stupid on the internet.

A credentialled expert with first hand, direct knowledge of the topic totally pimpslapping the morons :pimpslap who incessantly blog about "the Bilderberg group" etc.

:lobt:

[RandomGuy]

I think we are over due for a covert war with Iran. BHO doing one thing right.

I think the war is being waged by the Mossad.

I don't think the CIA has the capability in humint, still.

[Drachen]

They also want to destroy us. We are also infidels, and have a larger Jewish population than Israel does.

Noooope!

[RandomGuy]

It looks like the war pigs are about to pull another Iraq. In the orchestrated lead-up to the invasion of Iraq in 2003, a cabal of neocons and fellow travelers in the Pentagon contrived a number of lies – later explained away as “intelligence failures” (http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/world/middle-east/3536-the-big-lie-intelligence-failure-in-iraq.html) – in order to fabricate a consensus for mass murder.
The Bush neocons exploited the fantasies offered by Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41609536/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/curveball-i-lied-about-wmd-hasten-iraq-war/#.TvClxEqw45I), aka “Curveball,” a taxi driver who claimed to be an Iraqi chemical engineer with information on Saddam’s supposed chemical weapons program. It turned out al-Janabi was a drunken congenital liar (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/apr/03/iraq.usa1) who was trying to play the system to get a green card. Following the invasion and revelations that Curveball was a fake, the Bush administration blamed the CIA (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/16/curveball-questions-cia).
Fast-forward to 2011. Iran is in the crosshairs – part of the ambitious plan to take out seven countries in five years (http://www.salon.com/2007/10/12/wesley_clark/) (the war pigs are behind schedule) – and the transparently obvious fabrications for war are being hastily refried at the highest levels of government.
“Iraq had Ahmed Chalabi, Iyad Allawi and the informant Curveball selling fairy stories,” writes Felicity Arbuthnot (http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/content/view/full/112388). “Iran has Vyacheslav Danilenko, an expert in nanodiamonds, apparently doubling as a nuclear weapons expert, along with a plethora of unidentified spokespeople for ‘member states.’ Hardly rigid verifiable scholarship.”
The latest IAEA report on Iran’s nuclear program repeated the sensational claim previously reported by news media all over the world that a former Soviet nuclear weapons scientist had helped Iran construct a detonation system that could be used for a nuclear weapon, writes Gareth Porter (http://www.newstoday.com.bd/index.php?option=details&news_id=44165&date=2011-11-14). The Russian scientist is question is Danilenko, who is actually Ukrainian.
“It now appears that the IAEA and David Albright, the director of the International Institute for Science and Security [ISIS] in Washington, who was the source of the news reports about Danilenko, never bothered to check the accuracy of the original claim by an unnamed ‘Member State’ on which the IAEA based its assertion about his nuclear weapons background,” Porter explains.
The ISIS is supported by the usual suspect globalist foundations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Science_and_International_Security#B oard_and_funding), including the Ford Foundation, hence the CIA (http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/FordFandCIA.html), and the Rockefeller Brothers Fund.


http://rotate.infowars.com/www/delivery/lg.php?bannerid=1233&campaignid=139&zoneid=74&loc=1&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infowars.com%2Fcurveball-redux-iaea-lies-to-push-case-for-attacking-iran%2F&cb=433bbab309

As we noted (http://www.prisonplanet.com/trilateral-commission-wants-war-with-iran.html) back in 2010, the globalists are determined to take out Iran. In June of 2010, Bilderberg sleuth Jim Tucker revealed from his trusted sources that the majority of Bilderberg members were in favor of military air strikes on Iran. Tucker said that many Bilderberg members, including Rockefeller Trilateralist bigwig Zbigniew Brzezinski (http://www.prisonplanet.com/bilderberg-agenda-revealed-globalists-in-crisis-supportive-of-attack-on-iran.html), were in favor of U.S. air strikes on Iran and were “leaning towards war,” although 100 per cent of members were not supportive of an attack.
Danilenko is the weak link in the latest scam to drum up support for an attack on Iran, now well behind schedule. As Porter notes, “Danilenko worked from the beginning of his career in a part of the Institute that specialized in the synthesis of diamonds,” not nuclear detonation systems.
“The fact that the IAEA and Albright were made aware of Danilenko’s nanodiamond work in Iran before embracing the ‘former Soviet nuclear weapons specialist’ story makes their failure to make any independent inquiry into his background even more revealing,” Porter concludes.
In other words, business as usual. The war pigs and their elite masters don’t even bother to devise convincing cover stories anymore. And why should they? Millions of Americans – including a few hundred in Congress – gobbled up the last bundle of lies (http://www.alternet.org/story/16274) without blinking. Many simply shrugged when it was later reported that the government had lied.
Like the Saudi ambassador fairy tale (http://www.infowars.com/u-s-accuses-iranians-of-alleged-plot-to-kill-saudi-envoy/) cobbled together to demonize Iran – only to be shot down as a farce (http://platform0.twitter.com/widgets/tweet_button.html?_=1306798862773&count=horizontal&counturl=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/30/western-troops-on-ground-libya&lang=en&related=mediaguardian&text=Al-Jazeera%20footage%20captures%20%27western%20troops %20on%20the%20ground%27%20in%20Libya&url=http://gu.com/p/2pdzy/tw&via=guardian) in short order – the IAEA story is merely one component of a series of lies and falsehoods engineered to grab transient headlines and then fade into the background as the globalists and their minions prepare to invade Iran, close down the Strait of Hormuz and thus the global economy, and kick off World War III.




http://www.infowars.com/curveball-redux-iaea-lies-to-push-case-for-attacking-iran/

http://www.trephination.net/gallery/macros/deuceowned.jpg

[RandomGuy]

http://www.trephination.net/gallery/macros/yourthread.jpg

[mouse]

You are so fuckin stupid.


But he's still Political Poster of 2011.

[Wild Cobra]

Noooope!
I think you should look at the US population statistics vs. the Israeli stats. The nominal states only include the "practicing" Jewish, which more in America percentage wise are non practicing. At another million to the current US numbers you find by most studies.

It really depends on how you count them, and in the US, there is less motivation to be Jewish in practice like there is in Israel. Even with the official Jewish Council numbers, we are a very, very, close 2nd.

[Wild Cobra]

You are so fuckin stupid.:lol
Really? From you?
No shit.

That's exactly why I didn't take time, then, to respond to that stupid fuck.