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2centsworth
06-16-2005, 11:54 PM
Dear Tim,

Please no more jump shots or fadaways. You're 7ft tall, please attack the rim.

Sincerely,

Tim of Old.

ALVAREZ6
06-16-2005, 11:55 PM
Thank you.




Duncan needs to realize this....

Someone put this on a huge sign at a game for cryin out loud.

Tres_Till_it_MHz
06-16-2005, 11:59 PM
Kinda hard when no one is hitting an outside shot, and they got guys coming at Tim from all diffrent directions.

Addendum to memo: We need some outside shooters as well!

nkdlunch
06-16-2005, 11:59 PM
It definitely wasn't OLD TIMMY. What happened to old TIMMY!!!! we miss him. right now we have a good Dampier at best.

Tobias
06-16-2005, 11:59 PM
Duncan needs to stop looking for the refs to win the game for them (looking for calls) and fucking show them who the Champ is out there.

ALVAREZ6
06-17-2005, 12:02 AM
Kinda hard when no one is hitting an outside shot, and they got guys coming at Tim from all diffrent directions.

Addendum to memo: We need some outside shooters as well!
Last time I checked, Bruce, Barry, Horry, and Manu have been hitting 3's all series long.

GoSpurs21
06-17-2005, 12:04 AM
Spurs cannot depend on hitting 3s
Duncan needs to show up and dominate otherwise soft label is appropriate

Aggie Hoopsfan
06-17-2005, 12:05 AM
All the more reason this needs to become Manu's team. Duncan doesn't have the balls or leadership skills to do it.

nkdlunch
06-17-2005, 12:05 AM
Spurs cannot depend on hitting 3s
Duncan needs to show up and dominate otherwise soft label is appropriate

yeah , we're not the Suns remember? we need DEFENSE + Tim Duncan being old Tim Duncan.

Tres_Till_it_MHz
06-17-2005, 12:07 AM
Last time I checked, Bruce, Barry, Horry, and Manu have been hitting 3's all series long.


What did they do tonite??

Thank You..

wildbill2u
06-17-2005, 08:57 AM
Dear Tim,

Please no more jump shots or fadaways. You're 7ft tall, please attack the rim.

Sincerely,

Tim of Old.

In case no one has noticed--there is no more Tim of old. He used to play facing the basket and was deadly on those bank shots. When is the last time you saw him do that with any consistency?

Now he plays like an old time center with his back to the hoop and often gets stripped when he tries to dribble because they double team him. If he does get close to the basket, that little soft shot that used to go in all the time is too short because he can't get off the ground.

Watch him lumber down the court. His ankles must have 10 lbs. of tape on them. No way he can transition on B. Wallace who beats him down the court every time by 10 yds.

There is no 'Tim of old' in this series.

ManuTastic
06-17-2005, 09:14 AM
Against Phx he was definitely Tim of Old. Explosive, deadly, accurate. I'd give more credit to Detroit's defense.
But the main problem I saw last night was lots of pick-n-stand-around bball. Tim would set a screen for Tony or Manu and then... float around the top of the key. WTF?? Tim, it's called pick-and-ROLL, not pick-and-stand-with-your-thumb-up-your-butt. Every time they did it, Big Ben would switch off onto the guard and stifle him, so Tim should have gone to the hoop, but didn't. Have to execute, boys.

GrandeDavid
06-17-2005, 09:16 AM
And hold onto the damn ball when you do drive, tim!

boutons
06-17-2005, 10:28 AM
"hold onto the damn ball when you do drive"

The defense's objective is to keep Tim out of the low block by fronting/siding him.

So Tim fights his way around his defender and out further (close to the perimeter defenders),
finally gets the ball,
Tim is now a jump shooter or
he puts the ball on the floor and gets stripped.

This is Deja Vu of the Lakers 04 tactic on Tim, and it's working equally well.

ginobme
06-17-2005, 10:41 AM
actually tim was getting his position early in the shot clock but they preassure the passer and slow the entry pass, tim gets knocked off his spot, and he is now 18 feet from the whole and shooting a jump shot

Dingle Barry
06-17-2005, 10:46 AM
"hold onto the damn ball when you do drive"

The defense's objective is to keep Tim out of the low block by fronting/siding him.

So Tim fights his way around his defender and out further (close to the perimeter defenders),
finally gets the ball,
Tim is now a jump shooter or
he puts the ball on the floor and gets stripped.

This is Deja Vu of the Lakers 04 tactic on Tim, and it's working equally well.

Very true. But if this is the fucking antidote to the Spurs, why do we only see it three games into a series? Did DET just find the tape from the Lakers series last year?

E20
06-17-2005, 10:51 AM
Manu ain't leading nothing. The Pistons play INCREDIBLE D. Does anybody know who the Pistons have for they're frontcourt? Rasheed Fucking Wallace and Ben Fucking Wallace! NOW if we hit outside shots and would have been more agressive to the basket then chances are the score wouldn't be like that and Duncan would have a much better game because of the other defenders having to worry about the perimeter shooters. No one in the league can score when there is not 2 but, 3 defenders on one man. And as far as I see it, Manu and Tony's slashing in the basket was invisible they only had layups on fastbreaks other than that they were completely shut off from inside the paint and unless Tony and Manu are on fire they're gonna have to create an inside game before they can create a outside game.

Aggie Hoopsfan
06-17-2005, 12:45 PM
But if this is the fucking antidote to the Spurs, why do we only see it three games into a series? Did DET just find the tape from the Lakers series last year?

Because it's not how they normally play D, but after the beatings in games 1 and 2 it was time to make some changes.

kevm2
06-17-2005, 12:52 PM
Yeah, we definitely don't need 7 foot tall jump shooters, so tell Robert Horry to stop shooting so many fucking threes and get his ass under the rim to grab a rebound! If you brick your damn shot, you're leaving Tim to have to outrebound Rasheed and Ben Wallace. That doesn't have a high probability of happening and it's been proven in the past two games. If Duncan can't hit the jumper, we're really fucked because he isn't in position to grab the rebound and you know Horry's ass isn't going to get it. Hell, put in more Mohammed and LET HIM PLAY. We need to get more rebounds. The Pistons have a billion opportunities at second chance points and we only have one. No way in hell we can win that way.