lol Spurs fans wish Duncan was as good as Kobe

[Deuce Bigalow]

enjoy 12/9 average this year :lol

[pass1st]

2.5/10

PF vs SG

[LkrFan]

8 rematch coming right up. Peep the match ups:

Z Bo v TOSB
Gasol v Blair

Can't wait. :elephant

[Trill Clinton]

ok

[ElNono]

lol Laker fans wish Kobe was as good as Rose

[Bill_Brasky]

Awesome attempt bro

[lefty]

Lol butthurt :lmao

[LkrFan]

lol Laker fans wish Kobe was as good as Rose

5 > 0

:nope

[Deuce Bigalow]

lol Laker fans wish Kobe was as good as Rose
lol like Rose is better

[ElNono]

lol like Rose is better

Today he was

[ElNono]

5 > 0

:nope

"Rose soared over Derek Fisher for the game winner"

:downspin: that shit

[Nathan89]

lol like Rose is better

He definitely didn't shrink at the end like Kobe.

[LkrFan]

TD prolly was a TOSB long ago. Think about it. He usually had decent center keeping him on 6'9" PFs. Now he has to guard centers. Boom: TOSB!

:downspin:

[pass1st]

lol Laker fans wish Kobe was as young as Rose

fify

[Deuce Bigalow]

Today he was
eh I think it was kind of a wash since Kobe had more points, rebounds, assists, and steals
but did have 8 TOs and Rose hit the GW and shot like 68%

[LkrFan]

"Rose soared over Derek Fisher for the game winner"

:downspin: that shit

Actually it was Gasol, but point taken anyway. :(

[ElNono]

TD prolly was a TOSB long ago. Think about it. He usually had decent center keeping him on 6'9" PFs. Now he has to guard centers. Boom: TOSB!

:downspin:

Duncan been declining for a couple seasons now. No Spurs fan other than the old doctor/GNSF will tell you otherwise

[ElNono]

eh I think it was kind of a wash since Kobe had more points, rebounds, assists, and steals
but did have 8 TOs and Rose hit the GW and shot like 68%

With the game on the line, Rose delivered.

[LkrFan]

Duncan been declining for a couple seasons now. No Spurs fan other than the old doctor/GNSF will tell you otherwise

If he played center like his height dictates, he's glorified Kwame Brown. :elephant

[ElNono]

If he played center like his height dictates, he's glorified Kwame Brown. :elephant

He's just old. Not like you don't have one on your team too :downspin:

[LkrFan]

He's just old. Not like you don't have one on your team too :downspin:

I guess I have no room. But, until 4>5, I'm good. :elephant

[ElNono]

I guess I have no room. But, until 4>5, I'm good. :elephant

He still old :downspin:

[Deuce Bigalow]

He still old :downspin:
and can still be elite

[ElNono]

and can still be elite

Not today :cry :cry :cry

[Nathan89]

If he played center like his height dictates, he's glorified Kwame Brown. :elephant

Dirk is a center?

Charles Barkley was a sg?

[LkrFan]

Dirk is a center?

Charles Barkley was a sg?

:downspin: it MFer! :downspin: that shiiiitt! :lol

[LakerHater]

Kobe gets dusted by alota players Soooooo, hes been a tired old shit bag for a looong time now!??

[Deuce Bigalow]

Not today :cry :cry :cry
28 pts, 7 reb, 6 ast, 2 stl
yes he had 8 TO and missed the GW, but he didnt prove today that he wasn't elite

[dunkman]

It's not as simple, bball is a team sport and the best all-time players always contribute in some way to the success of their teams. I'm quite sure that if the Spurs trade Duncan for another player with similar statistcs, the team would lose more games.

Keep in mind that despite putting only 13.5 ppg / 9 rpg, the Spurs were 61 - 21 last season. Pop changed the rotation few games before the end of the RS and Manu got injured in the meaningless last RS game, otherwise the Spurs could have advanced IMO to the WCF.

[ElNono]

28 pts, 7 reb, 6 ast, 2 stl
yes he had 8 TO and missed the GW, but he didnt prove today that he wasn't elite

Tired old shitbag ballhog didn't pass and lost the game

:downspin: that shit

[daslicer]

Judging by today's game I don't wish Duncan was as clutch as Kobe lol.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Judging by today's game I don't wish Duncan was as clutch as Kobe lol.
lol

[Giuseppe]

Tired old shitbag

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[Giuseppe]

Manu got injured in the meaningless last RS game, otherwise the Spurs could have advanced IMO to the WCF.

Only pussies & assholes play the injury card.

[LkrFan]

Judging by today's game I don't wish Duncan was as clutch as Kobe lol.

:lol

[dunkman]

Only pussies & assholes play the injury card.

True fan just stays loyal, never switch teams. That's written in stone.

[ElNono]

trend setter.

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[Giuseppe]

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[Giuseppe]

True fan just stays loyal, never switch teams. That's written in stone.

Me & dunky, Shoulder-to-Shoulder.

[Sean Cagney]

and can still be elite

Not in the second round last year...

[Deuce Bigalow]

Not in the second round last year...
After back to back championships, and 3 straight finals, he had a bad series OMG!
either way, that was another 25-5-5 regular season for Bean, better than 13-9 for your boy

[ElNono]

Younger player better than older player!

:dramaquee

[Deuce Bigalow]

:dramaquee

Duncan minutes
RS: 37733
PO: 6952
Total: 44685

Kobe minutes
RS: 40145
PO: 8165
Total: 48310

[ElNono]

Duncan minutes
RS: 37733
PO: 6952
Total: 44685

Kobe minutes
RS: 40145
PO: 8165
Total: 48310

And? :wakeup

[ElNono]

Kobe 2011-2012 chokes: 1

Duncan 2011-2012 chokes: 0

[Deuce Bigalow]

And? :wakeup
Kobe has more mileage than Duncan

[ElNono]

lol stats

[Giuseppe]

Kobe 2011-2012 chokes: 1

Duncan 2011-2012 chokes: 0

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe 2011-2012 chokes: 1

Duncan 2011-2012 chokes: 0
Spurs were the 3rd team in NBA History to get beaten by an 8th seed

[ElNono]

Kobe has more mileage than Duncan

Duncan is a PF, Kobe isn't. Duncan has to carry a team, Kobe doesn't.

What's your point?

[4>0rings]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

spurs were the 3rd team in nba history to get beaten by an 8th seed

8

[ElNono]

Spurs were the 3rd team in NBA History to get beaten by an 8th seed

Lakers still hold the record for worst loss in NBA Finals history. Kobe was there.

[Giuseppe]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[4>0rings]

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[ElNono]

Duncan

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Lakers still hold the record for worst loss in NBA Finals history. Kobe was there.
111-72
111-82

back to back, Duncan was there

[ElNono]

111-72
111-82

back to back, Duncan was there

2 NBA Finals losses... Kobe was there

[ElNono]

Kobe with the choke... Luol Deng was there...

[Deuce Bigalow]

2 NBA Finals losses... Kobe was there
yep, he got them there

[ElNono]

lol kobefanbois

[Deuce Bigalow]

getting to the finals > losing in a previous round

[ElNono]

getting to the finals > losing in a previous round

lol moral victories
lol kobefanbois

[ElNono]

:cry Kobe deserved to win today :cry

[ElNono]

:cry Kobe didn't deserve to get his shit pushed in by Chicago :cry

[Deuce Bigalow]

lol moral victories
lol kobefanbois
fucking idiot you are

Taking your team to the finals >>>> losing in the 1st,2nd, or 3rd round

[ElNono]

fucking idiot you are

He didn't take any team to the finals...

[Deuce Bigalow]

getting to the finals is not a "moral victory", it means you won the conference and have a chance to win the chip

[ElNono]

coattailing to the finals <<<<<<< taking a team to the finals

[ElNono]

getting to the finals is not a "moral victory", it means you won the conference and have a chance to win the chip

you mean losing the NBA finals?

[Deuce Bigalow]

He didn't take any team to the finals...
again, fucking idiot is what you are

[dunkman]

Me & dunky, Shoulder-to-Shoulder.

:lol

[Giuseppe]

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

I'm trend setter.

I set trends.

[ElNono]

plz don't shit on my kobe :cry :cry :cry :cry

[ElNono]

I'm

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[Deuce Bigalow]

you mean losing the NBA finals?
What is your IQ? 48?

[ElNono]

Wait, weren't you the guy that claimed not to be a Kobe apologist? :lmao

[ElNono]

What is your IQ? 48?

You mean losing the NBA Finals?

[Giuseppe]

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

I'm trend setter.

I set trends.

[ElNono]

set

I'm trend setter.

I set trends.

[Giuseppe]

I'm trend setter.

I set trends.

I'm trend setter.

I set trends.

[ElNono]

I

I'm trend setter.

I set trends.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Wait, weren't you the guy that claimed not to be a Kobe apologist? :lmao
How am I being an "apologist'

making the finals >>> losing in prior round
kobe is better than duncan right now despite 4,000 more minutes played

Low IQ?

[ElNono]

How am I being an "apologist'

Low IQ? :lmao

[Deuce Bigalow]

Low IQ? :lmao
This fool

[Deuce Bigalow]

OK tell me

DO you want your Spurs to make the Finals this year, or lose in the 1st round?

[ElNono]

Tell me how you really feel about Kobe's choke today... :wakeup

[Deuce Bigalow]

Tell me how you really feel about Kobe's choke today... :wakeup
How do you think?
blowing an 11 point lead felt really good man....

[ElNono]

How do you think?
blowing an 11 point lead felt really good man....

You sound mad, tbh

[Giuseppe]

I'm trend setter.

I set trends.

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[ElNono]

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

'seppe!!!

What did katiegirl get you for christmas? two-pack of fixodent?

[dunkman]

Deuce, not to say that Kobe isn't one of the most skilled players to ever play or that he wasn't athletic, he is/was that, but he also always had bellow average bball iq.

He had to defer to Shaq for the first rings. Shaq commanded similar attention to that pic of Kobe, with the difference that it would have been a dunk and 1. Shaq also passed the ball often in that situations.

Gasol / Bynum / Odom would get 10 rpg each - outrebounding every other team, make all types of miss matches with size, strenght and speed, plus they would score their points at around 1.5 pts/shot. Kobe would take most of the shots by far and make more points than Gasol, but he wasn't the true reason why the Lakers were so succesful.

The only time Kobe played really well in the finals was against the Magic, a team without an good wing defender. In the other 4 championships, the Lakers bigs contributed more than Kobe. When the Lakers failed to win, Kobe played terribly.

In the last Lakers championship, Fisher had to yell at Kobe in the game 7, because he was to shot the Lakers out. Basically World Peace and Gasol bailed out the Lakers.

[LkrFan]

'seppe!!!

What did katiegirl get you for christmas? two-pack of fixodent?

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Giuseppe]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

Oh, yeah, that's fuckin' hilarious.:rolleyes

[ElNono]

^ :lmao

[Giuseppe]

In the last Lakers championship, Fisher had to yell at Kobe in the game 7, because he was to shot the Lakers out.

The key? When he had to yell at him, Fisher was standing in California because of those 7 last second victories that Kobe garnered in the first 82 games.

[LkrFan]

Oh, yeah, that's fuckin' hilarious.:rolleyes

Sorry man. That shit was funny. :lol

[Giuseppe]

Sorry man. That shit we funny. :lol

Oh, yeah, just a side splitter.:rolleyes

[4>0rings]

Oh, yeah, just a side splitter.:rolleyes

:rollin:rolleyes:rollin

[Deuce Bigalow]

Deuce, not to say that Kobe isn't one of the most skilled players to ever play or that he wasn't athletic, he is/was that, but he also always had bellow average bball iq.

He had to defer to Shaq for the first rings. Shaq commanded similar attention to that pic of Kobe, with the difference that it would have been a dunk and 1. Shaq also passed the ball often in that situations.

Gasol / Bynum / Odom would get 10 rpg each - outrebounding every other team, make all types of miss matches with size, strenght and speed, plus they would score their points at around 1.5 pts/shot. Kobe would take most of the shots by far and make more points than Gasol, but he wasn't the true reason why the Lakers were so succesful.

The only time Kobe played really well in the finals was against the Magic, a team without an good wing defender. In the other 4 championships, the Lakers bigs contributed more than Kobe. When the Lakers failed to win, Kobe played terribly.

In the last Lakers championship, Fisher had to yell at Kobe in the game 7, because he was to shot the Lakers out. Basically World Peace and Gasol bailed out the Lakers.
The bigs were better than Kobe in the '08 and '10 finals? :lol uh ok
Kobe played well in the '02 finals (27/6/5/51%) and still averaged 29/8 in the '10 finals, bad % but still 29/8 is bad?
30-6-5 in '08 PO
30-5-6 in '09 PO
29-6-6 in '10 PO
Bynum in 08 PO - DNP any games, '09 PO - 6/4/46%, '10 PO - 9/7/54%
Odom in '08 PO - 14/10/49%, '09 PO - 12/9/52%, '10 PO - 10/9/47%
Gasol was great all around (except in '08 Finals)

and this whole "bailed out thing" it happens all the time, one player doesn't win a championship, Horry bailed out the entire spurs team in the '05 finals, it happens

Kobe and Jordan are the only players to ever average 30-5-5 in the playoffs and win finals MVP, to say that Kobe wasn't the best player on those teams is retarded
and how did LA make the Finals in '08 in the first place? Kobe averaged 32/6/6/52FG%/61TS% through the first 3 rounds

[ElNono]

The bigs were better than Kobe in the '08 and '10 finals? :lol uh ok

Are you suggesting Kobe coattailed his first 3 rings?


Kobe played well in the '02 finals (27/6/5/51%) and still averaged 29/8 in the '10 finals, bad % but still 29/8 is bad?

Shaq was better in '02. Gasol was better in '10. Both had better % than him. There's no reason for him to chuck. It cost him '04.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Are you suggesting Kobe coattailed his first 3 rings?



Shaq was better in '02. Gasol was better in '10. Both had better % than him. There's no reason for him to chuck. It cost him '04.
Ok, fucking troll, no point in arguing with this fuck

[dunkman]

The key? When he had to yell at him, Fisher was standing in California because of those 7 last second victories that Kobe garnered in the first 82 games.

Kobe was always more dominant in the RS. When facing teams with elite wing defenders and good bigs covering the paint, it was a different story, though.

That being said, even when Kobe was at the top of his game, he struggled in making his team mates better. So he only has 1 mvp.

It's often said that Kobe had limited talent around him in those years, well it wasn't so bad really. Duncan (and Dirk) had won championship without other all-star players.

Even Shaq's Lakers teams had limited talent besides Kobe.

[ElNono]

Ok, fucking troll, no point in arguing with this fuck

why u mad, son? You started the troll thread and now you can't take it?

:lmao

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe was always more dominant in the RS. When facing teams with elite wing defenders and good bigs covering the paint, it was a different story, though.

That being said, even when Kobe was at the top of his game, he struggled in making his team mates better. So he only has 1 mvp.

It's often said that Kobe had limited talent around him, well it wasn't so bad really. Duncan (and Dirk) had won championship without other all-star players.

Even Shaq's Lakers teams had limited talent besides Kobe.
Go look at Gasol FG% and TS% with Memphis and with LA http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gasolpa01.html

[weebo]

lol @ man whore getting shit on in this thread

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol this thread is unnecessary and sad, tbh..

Kobe's still a good player, a top 10 player, he's currently better than Tim Duncan..no need to make a thread about it, just because the forum mocked Kobe's poor perormance in clutch time..

[ElNono]

:lol this thread is unnecessary and sad, tbh..

Kobe's still a good player, a top 10 player, he's currently better than Tim Duncan..no need to make a thread about it, just because the forum mocked Kobe's poor perormance in clutch time..

Kobefan is sensitive today :lol

[dunkman]

Go look at Gasol FG% and TS% with Memphis and with LA http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gasolpa01.html

There is a difference when Phil Jax runs the offense. Kobe missed the playoffs without him.

[Deuce Bigalow]

There is a difference when Phil Jax runs the offense. Kobe missed the playoffs without him.
He was injured that year

[Giuseppe]

Kobe was always more dominant in the RS.

Don't be obtuse, you asshole.

[ElNono]

He was injured that year

He played 66 games...

[Nathan89]

Go look at Gasol FG% and TS% with Memphis and with LA http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/gasolpa01.html


TS%:lmao

Your most important stat.

The stat Kobe never leads the team in.

:lmao

[Nathan89]

There is a difference when Phil Jax runs the offense. Kobe missed the playoffs without him.

:lmao

[Deuce Bigalow]

He played 66 games...
And played hurt

[ElNono]

And played hurt

Not hurt enough, seemingly...

[dunkman]

He was injured that year

It was around 15 games. He missed around the same number of games in 00, 01 and 04. The triangle offense Phil run, gave open looks and higher fg%. He's also a great defensive coach.

[Deuce Bigalow]

It was around 15 games. He missed around the same number of games in 00, 01 and 04. The triangle offense Phil run, gave open looks and higher fg%. He's also a great defensive coach.
You can still be injured and play, you know that right :lol

[LakerHater]

You can still be injured and play, you know that right :lol
NO, you can be hurt & play!

[ElNono]

You can still be injured and play, you know that right :lol

You also can be healthy, score a lot and not make the playoffs, you know that right :lol

[Nathan89]

It was around 15 games. He missed around the same number of games in 00, 01 and 04. The triangle offense Phil run, gave open looks and higher fg%. He's also a great defensive coach.

He had Shaq to carry him those years.

[dunkman]

Don't be obtuse, you asshole.

You mad trendy . . . :D ;)

[Giuseppe]

He had Shaq to carry him those years.

Kobe: 2

Daddy: 1

[Giuseppe]

You mad trendy . . . :D ;)

Just checkin' assholes. You came to mind first.

[Deuce Bigalow]

He had Shaq to carry him those years.
When he was dropping 33.3/7/7 in the WCF on you guys too?

[Nathan89]

"kobe you can pass the ball, you know that right."

[ElNono]

When he was dropping 33.3/7/7 in the WCF on you guys too?

Or when he was crying after young Duncan was sending him packing?

[Nathan89]

Kobe: 2

Daddy: 1

I would hope Kobe manage to get more rings than him considering the age difference. Do you know what old age does to an individuals physical attributes?:lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

or when he was crying after young duncan was sending him packing?
111-72
111-82
sweep

[dunkman]

NO, you can be hurt & play!

True that. The latest player to play seriously injured, was Grant Hill for Pistons. It's well known how the things ended for him.

[Giuseppe]

I would hope Kobe manage to get more rings than him considering the age difference.

Your hope is a reality.

[ElNono]

sweep

Are you talking about the 1999 sweep when we closed the Forum?

[Spur_Fanatic]

LOL at poor Bigalow.

[Nathan89]

Your hope is a reality.

Thanks to Pau.

[Giuseppe]

Thanks to Pau.

Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe took him in.

Kobe: 2

Daddy: 1

[ElNono]

Anyhow, good to see Lakerfan is adjusting to living in the past, much like Spursfan

[Giuseppe]

Anyhow, good to see Lakerfan is adjusting to living in the past, much like Spursfan

A lot though when its:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[Nathan89]

Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe took him in.

Kobe: 2

Daddy: 1

Kobe couldn't win a single playoffs series until Pau came to town. He new he couldn't too and that's why he was begging for a trade.

Only P&A beg to be traded.

[ElNono]

A lot though when its:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

Did you get strawberry flavored fixodent?

[Giuseppe]

Only P&A

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[dunkman]

Just checkin' assholes. You came to mind first.

Will pass trendy. Remember, true fans never switch teams. That's written in stone trendy . . .

Never forget that trendy. ;) :lmao

[Giuseppe]

Remember, true fans never switch teams. That's written in stone trendy

Me & dunky, Shoulder-to-Shoulder.

[Nathan89]

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

nonetheless only...P&A beg to be traded.

[Giuseppe]

P&A

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[LakerHater]

nonetheless only...P&A beg to be traded.
Kobe Bryant begged for a trade!

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[Jelloisjigglin]

Wow, excellent thread. Very informative.

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[4>0rings]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

Come te papy!

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[4>0rings]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[4>0rings]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[4>0rings]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[daslicer]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

Isiah Thomas has 2 rings and Dr J has 1 ring but I don't think anybody would say Isiah was better then Dr.J. Anyways my new shtick when you pull this crap will be the total count of Duncan's finals mvps and regular season mvps vs Kobe's which is
Duncan 5
Kobe 3

[Giuseppe]

Isiah Thomas has 2 rings and Dr J has 1 ring but I don't think anybody would say Isiah was better then Dr.J. Anyways my new shtick when you pull this crap will be the total count of Duncan's finals mvps and regular season mvps vs Kobe's which is
Duncan 5
Kobe 3

Only pussies & assholes do mvps.

[daslicer]

Only pussies & assholes do mvps.

Lol you say that only because Kobe doesn't measure up in that department. Kobe's very overrated you would expect a guy whose being billed as the greatest player of his generation to have more then 1 regular season MVP and just 2 finals mvps. Its hard for me to see how Kobe is even better then Dr. J if you take away the rings argument they both have only 1 regular season MVP while one has shot above 50 percent several times while the other has never shot above 45 percent.

[Giuseppe]

I don't do MVPs, Slicer.

It's my religion.

I do NBA Titles, hence:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

[daslicer]

I don't do MVPs, Slicer.

It's my religion.

I do NBA Titles, hence:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

MVP's measure dominance so Kobe lacks in that department hence

Duncan: 5

Alimony piece of shit Kobe 3

[Deuce Bigalow]

Lol you say that only because Kobe doesn't measure up in that department. Kobe's very overrated you would expect a guy whose being billed as the greatest player of his generation to have more then 1 regular season MVP and just 2 finals mvps. Its hard for me to see how Kobe is even better then Dr. J if you take away the rings argument they both have only 1 regular season MVP while one has shot above 50 percent several times while the other has never shot above 45 percent.

1. Shaq only has 1 MVP, Steve Nash has 2, tells you all you need to know
2. Duncan is a C-PF, Kobe is a SG, only a retard would compare their %

[Deuce Bigalow]

are you talking about the 1999 sweep when we closed the forum?
2001, 2002, 2004, 2008

[Giuseppe]

Vanessa: 2.5

Kobe: 2.5

Duncan: 4

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

MVP's measure dominance so Kobe lacks in that department hence

Duncan: 5

Alimony piece of shit Kobe 3

Fine, Slicer, you do the MVP's. I'm stickin' with:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[dunkman]

2001, 2002, 2004, 2008

You forgot to mention 03, and can imagine why. Also the 05 when Kobe, already knowing about the Spurs way, just missed the playoffs.

[dunkman]

Fine, Slicer, you do the MVP's. I'm stickin' with:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

A true fan sticks with his team too trendy, never switches teams. That's written in stone trendy . . . :lmao

[Rummpd]

Both are alltime greats and the media will put Kobe higher but the fact is Duncan's career is as good if not better.

PER is used by many to try to weigh the value of a player statistically, besides more MVPs and finals MVPs= Duncan of course top ten all time in PER while a plausibly overrated SG named Kobe is 17th. http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_career.html

Duncan 4th among active while Kobe trails: LeBron, Wade, Paul, Duncan, and Dirk
1. Michael Jordan* 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.94
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.43
4. David Robinson* 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.65
7. Bob Pettit* 25.35
8. Chris Paul 25.23
9. Tim Duncan 24.84
10. Neil Johnston* 24.63
11. Charles Barkley* 24.63
12. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58
13. Magic Johnson* 24.11
14. Karl Malone* 23.90
15. Dirk Nowitzki 23.73
16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 23.59
17. Kobe Bryant 23.53
18. Larry Bird* 23.50
19. Kevin Garnett 23.43

As PER also shows Shaq not Kobe was the prime reason for LALs three titles in a row and even with Gasol (28th all time) aside him Kobe could not deliver without Shaq to a similar extent. Kobe has also lost finals - Duncan has never lost a finals.

[Bill_Brasky]

Only pussies & assholes do mvps.

& before 2 years ago I'm sure this applied to rings too, you fat old cuck you

[Giuseppe]

Both are alltime greats and the media will put Kobe higher but the fact is Duncan's career is as good if not better.

(PER)

Kobe has also lost finals - Duncan has never lost a finals.

Only pussies & assholes do (PER).

That unsavory business aside:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

---

& the shit bag has never repeated. Kobe has 3 times.

[Giuseppe]

A true fan sticks with his team too trendy, never switches teams. That's written in stone trendy

Me & dunky, Shoulder-2-Shoulder.

[daslicer]

1. Shaq only has 1 MVP, Steve Nash has 2, tells you all you need to know
2. Duncan is a C-PF, Kobe is a SG, only a retard would compare their %

:lol You have gotta be one of the most retarded posters out there. Where do I start Shaq still beats out Nash in total MVPs regular season and finals MVP's 4-2 so thats an epic fail. In this thread you have compared Duncan to Kobe so of course I'm going to bring up their FG percentage since its a comparison. I have had this argument with you before but its a fact that dominant bigmen are always more valuable then a perimeter player unless its MJ.

One thing as Kobetard you should wonder why hasn't Kobe ever shot above 50 percent in his whole entire career that the best he's shot is 46 percent while all time great perimeter players like Dr.J,Bird, shot above 50 percent several times in their careers. I will even mention second tier greats such as Drexler, Reggie Miller, Gervin managed to shoot above 50 percent a few times through out their career. Even his contemporaries Wade,Lebron have reached that percentage. For Kobe to not be able to achieve this feat shows me he has low bball IQ. That was apparent in the final seconds of the bulls game yesterday when he tried jacking up a shot on 3 defenders in the paint instead of looking around for other options.

[DMC]

I wish Duncan was as good as Kobe. We would ring this year. It's not Kobe's "good" that's in question. It's his mentality.

If Tim had Kobe's hops, his shooting stroke, his ability to get to rim, NBA would be really fucked.

[Giuseppe]

I wish

Only pussies & assholes wish.

[dunkman]

Me & dunky, Shoulder-2-Shoulder.

:lmao

[ElNono]

2001, 2002, 2004, 2008

Why are you talking sweep then list all those years?

You sound butthurt, tbh. Was this supposed to be another calculated shitbomb? :lmao

[ElNono]

lol thread backfire

[DMC]

Only pussies & assholes wish.
Like you'd recognize a pussy if you saw one.

[easy7]

I'm a set trender
I trend sets

[Giuseppe]

Like you'd recognize a pussy if you saw one.

:rolleyes

[midnightpulp]

:rolleyes

How 'bout them Browns!

[Deuce Bigalow]

Both are alltime greats and the media will put Kobe higher but the fact is Duncan's career is as good if not better.

PER is used by many to try to weigh the value of a player statistically, besides more MVPs and finals MVPs= Duncan of course top ten all time in PER while a plausibly overrated SG named Kobe is 17th. http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_career.html

Duncan 4th among active while Kobe trails: LeBron, Wade, Paul, Duncan, and Dirk
1. Michael Jordan* 27.91
2. LeBron James 26.94
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.43
4. David Robinson* 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade 25.65
7. Bob Pettit* 25.35
8. Chris Paul 25.23
9. Tim Duncan 24.84
10. Neil Johnston* 24.63
11. Charles Barkley* 24.63
12. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58
13. Magic Johnson* 24.11
14. Karl Malone* 23.90
15. Dirk Nowitzki 23.73
16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 23.59
17. Kobe Bryant 23.53
18. Larry Bird* 23.50
19. Kevin Garnett 23.43

As PER also shows Shaq not Kobe was the prime reason for LALs three titles in a row and even with Gasol (28th all time) aside him Kobe could not deliver without Shaq to a similar extent. Kobe has also lost finals - Duncan has never lost a finals.
worthless

[Deuce Bigalow]

:lol You have gotta be one of the most retarded posters out there. Where do I start Shaq still beats out Nash in total MVPs regular season and finals MVP's 4-2 so thats an epic fail. In this thread you have compared Duncan to Kobe so of course I'm going to bring up their FG percentage since its a comparison. I have had this argument with you before but its a fact that dominant bigmen are always more valuable then a perimeter player unless its MJ.

One thing as Kobetard you should wonder why hasn't Kobe ever shot above 50 percent in his whole entire career that the best he's shot is 46 percent while all time great perimeter players like Dr.J,Bird, shot above 50 percent several times in their careers. I will even mention second tier greats such as Drexler, Reggie Miller, Gervin managed to shoot above 50 percent a few times through out their career. Even his contemporaries Wade,Lebron have reached that percentage. For Kobe to not be able to achieve this feat shows me he has low bball IQ. That was apparent in the final seconds of the bulls game yesterday when he tried jacking up a shot on 3 defenders in the paint instead of looking around for other options.
Kobe takes perimeter shots, do you know what that is child?