Lakers @ Sacto game blog

[lefty]

That Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Banzai]

Lmao...

[LnGrrrR]

I would be terrified if my team relied on Bynum for mental and physical toughness.

[ElNono]

http://newsone.com/files/2011/05/mike-brown-lakers-coach.jpg

[lefty]

Daaaaaaamn


That dancer

[DMC]

Kobe got his. That's all that matters.

[resistanze]

:lol Milk Dud Coach

[Killakobe81]

ahh well we in the lead for the #1 pick!!! :lol

[mystargtr34]

Damn with Thornton and Cousins the Kings are gonna rival the Durant-Westbrook Thunder combo as the most annoying team in the NBA.

[Spur_Fanatic]

Fucking Lakers, I had money on them.

[Banzai]

Later all...lakers going nowhere...and this forum isn't the place to be for me..not now anyway.

[Brazil]

Lol kings celebrating as it was game 7 of nba finals... kind of pathetic

[Ashy Larry]

the only good thing after a lakers loss is watching LG blame the refs ........

[ElNono]

Later all...lakers going nowhere...and this forum isn't the place to be for me..not now anyway.

good nite

[Pelicans78]

:lol

Udrih was their best player last season.

[lefty]

Kobe is mad :lmao

[ElNono]

Damn Cousins just shitting on Kobe's mug

[HarlemHeat37]

Kobe isn't even complaining like he usually does:lol..

[DMC]

:lol Milk Dud Coach
So what's the over/under for games before Kobe demands a trade?

[Spur_Fanatic]

Later all...lakers going nowhere...and this forum isn't the place to be for me..not now anyway.

Don't go to LG.net, half the members in suicide watch right now.

[lefty]

Lol kings celebrating as it was game 7 of nba finals... kind of pathetic

Its not

Its a rivalry game

[Killakobe81]

Bynum would be dominating these games, tbh..he's LA's most important player..they will bounce back..

The problem will be that Kobe and Bynum's knees are going to take a beating, carrying their poor roster..

Pau played OK too ...

[InRareForm]

Marcus Thornton is a BALLLERRRR! future!!

[Spur_Fanatic]

Can someone tell me why Kobe is still playing instead of resting?

Is there a bigger idiot in LA right now?

[ElNono]

So, is Kobe playing tomorrow? This game is over and he's still out there

[Killakobe81]

the only good thing after a lakers loss is watching LG blame the refs ........

yep ...pnb critical error :lmao

[Brazil]

Cousins is such a jerk

[DJ Mbenga]

Lakers shooting less than 1% from 3. How was this even a game?

[resistanze]

So what's the over/under for games before Kobe demands a trade?

Ain't no team touching that fucking contract, and he knows it.

Now that Shaq retired he'll be content with his 90 million and years of suckage before retirement.

[ElNono]

lol lakers
lol disarray

[lefty]

Cousins is such a jerk
As long as he shits on L.A

[4>0rings]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_B8RXFslqX04/TMungOr8HqI/AAAAAAAAAII/bfLRwFjq5i0/s1600/smiley-face-wallpaper-015.jpg

[Killakobe81]

At least we didnt go out like Bulls or Mavs but we 0-2 anyways ...

[Brazil]

As long as he shits on L.A

thats true:lol

[Hemotivo]

Lakers shooting less than 1% from 3. How was this even a game?

1/16 :wow

[InRareForm]

0-2 in 66 games is like 0-3 in a 82 game season.

[Cry Havoc]

Don't go to LG.net, half the members in suicide watch right now.

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[DAF86]

http://partneryahoo.photobucket.com/albums/g381/Google-Images/Internet%20Memes/LOL-Face-Meme.png

[resistanze]

http://partneryahoo.photobucket.com/albums/g381/Google-Images/Internet%20Memes/LOL-Face-Meme.png

:lol That's fucking hideous.

[Cry Havoc]

:lmao

:lmao

:lmao

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=138919

[lefty]

http://partneryahoo.photobucket.com/albums/g381/Google-Images/Internet%20Memes/LOL-Face-Meme.png

Looks like Matt Barnes when he is getting it deep

[Ashy Larry]

yep ...pnb critical error :lmao


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[Spur_Fanatic]

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Well, to make it short.
You not missing much.

Some topics being discussed:

Thoughts on Luke Walton getting playing time... (http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=138910&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) (I though he retired)
These rotations are insane... (http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=138911&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) (true)
Okay NBA we got it. you dont want lakers winning anymore (http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=138919&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) (whine!)
Should Mike Brown be fired? (http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=138927&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) (How he dares to play Walton!)
There is no better season to just TANK it (http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=138768&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) (whoa!)
Ron Artest is our best player FML (http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=138917&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) (true)
Despite of the negativity THANK YOU for the 3 finals and 2 rings (http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=138921&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) (what)
Gasol needs to be traded while he still has value (http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=138926&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) (sinking ship)
We need a Point guard so bad it aint even funny (http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=138913&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=) (welcome to the 21st century)

[Spur_Fanatic]

I'm sure LG.net will be more stable in next few minutes.

[LkrFan]

OK you shit heads, I'm here.

[ElNono]

OK you shit heads, I'm here.

Start :downspin: this shit :lol

[LkrFan]

Start :downspin: this shit :lol

Can't. SMH

[Trainwreck2100]

:lmao

:lmao

:lmao

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=138919

lol they STILL blame stern, when it was the owners that forced his hand

[Cry Havoc]

lol they STILL blame stern, when it was the owners that forced his hand

:cry :cry :cry The NBA wouldn't let us take the all-NBA player we got as a free gift from the Grizzlies and trade him for the best PG in the league. :cry :cry :cry Now we only have 3 potential All-Stars on our team after giving away our 6MotY for a trade exception :cry :cry :cry. Kobe needs more than two other world-class bigs to get a ring! :cry :cry :cry

[Giuseppe]

:cry :cry :cry The NBA wouldn't let us take the player we got as a free gift from the Grizzlies and trade him for the best PG in the league. :cry :cry :cry Now we only have 3 potential All-Stars on our team after giving away our 6MotY for a trade exception :cry :cry :cry. Kobe needs more than two other world-class bigs to get a ring! :cry :cry :cry

Hey, Dr. Havoc, is it still swell to laugh about child molestation?

[Spur_Fanatic]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xWFKiPJDO_I/TA6w0naub9I/AAAAAAAADww/KL2BD7PwJMQ/s1600/dfl.jpg

[DMC]

Hey, Dr. Havoc, is it still swell to laugh about child molestation?
Is your inner child in peril?

[Giuseppe]

Is your inner child in peril?

Just checkin' assholes, wanted to start with Dr. Havoc. C'mon, Doc, tell me true:::are you still advocating laughing about child molestation?

[jjktkk]

Can't. SMH

Knew you'd show up, but wheres the bandwagon douches like blessings at?

[4>0rings]

Just checkin' assholes, wanted to start with Dr. Havoc. C'mon, Doc, tell me true:::are you still advocating laughing about child molestation?

Bob Costas: Mr. Sandusky, there is a 40-count indictment, the grand jury report contains specific details. There are multiple accusers, multiple eyewitnesses to various aspects of the abuse. A reasonable person says, "Where there is this much smoke, there must be plenty of fire." What do you say?

Jerry Sandusky: I say that I am innocent of those charges.

Costas: Innocent? Completely innocent and falsely accused in every aspect?

Sandusky: Well, I could say that, you know, I have done some of those things. I have horsed around with kids. I have showered after workouts. I have hugged them and I have touched their legs, without intent of sexual contact. But, um... uh ... So, if you look at it that way ... uh ... there are things that ... that ... uh ... wouldn't ... uh, you know, would be accurate.

Costas: Are you denying that you had any inappropriate sexual contact with any of these underage boys?


Sandusky: Yes, I am.

Costas: Never touched their genitals? Never engaged in oral sex?

Sandusky: Right.

Costas: What about Mike McQueary? The grad assistant, who in 2002 walked into the shower where he says in specific detail that you were forcibly raping a boy who appeared to be 10 or 11 years old, that his hands were up against the shower wall, and he heard rhythmic slap, slap, slapping sounds, and he described that as a rape?

Sandusky: I would say that that's false.

Costas: What would be his motive to lie?

Sandusky: You'd have to ask him that.

Costas: What did happen in the shower the night that Mike McQueary happened upon you and the young boy?

Sandusky: OK, we were showering and ... and horsing around. And he actually turned all the showers on and was actually sliding across the floor and um and we were, as I recall, possibly, like, snapping a towel and horseplay.

Costas: In 1998, a mother confronts you about taking a shower with her son and inappropriately touching him. Two detectives eavesdrop on her conversations with you and you admit that, maybe, your private parts touched her son. What happened there?

Sandusky: I can't exactly recall what was said there. In terms of, uh, what I did say was that if he felt that way then I was wrong.

Costas: During one of those conversations, you said, "I understand. I was wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness," speaking now with the mother, "I know I won't get it from you. I wish I were dead." A guy falsely accused, or a guy whose actions have been misinterpreted, doesn't respond that way. Does he?

Sandusky: I don't know. I didn't say, to my recollection, that "I wish I were dead." I was hopeful that we could reconcile things.

Costas: Shortly after that, in 2000, a janitor said that he saw you performing oral sex on a young boy in the showers in the Penn State locker facility. Did that happen?

Sandusky: No.

Costas: How could somebody think they saw something as extreme and shocking as that when it hadn't occurred? And what would possibly be their motivation to fabricate it?

Sandusky: You'd have to ask them.

Costas: It seems that, if all of these accusations are false, you are the unluckiest and most persecuted man that any of us has ever heard about.

Sandusky: [Laughs] I don't know what you want me to say. I don't think that these have been the best days of my life.

Costas: To your knowledge, did Joe Paterno have any information regarding objectionable activities on your part prior to that report in 2002?

Sandusky: My... I can't totally answer that question. My answer would be, "no."

Costas: Did Joe Paterno, at any time, ever speak to you directly about your behavior?

Sandusky: No.

Costas: Never?

Sandusky: No.

Costas: He never asked you about what you might have done?

Sandusky: No.

Costas: He never asked you if needed help, if you needed counseling?

Sandusky: No, no.

Costas: Never expressed disapproval of any kind?

Sandusky: No.

Costas: How do you feel about what has happened to Penn State and to Joe Paterno? And to the Penn State football program? And your part in it?

Sandusky: How would you think I would feel about a university that I attended? About people that I worked with? About people that I care so much about? How do you think I would feel about it? I feel horrible.

Costas: You feel horrible. Do you feel culpable?

Sandusky: I'm not sure what I know what you mean?

Costas: Do you feel guilty?

Sandusky: Guilty?

Costas: Do you feel as if it's your fault

Sandusky: No. I don't think it's my fault. I've obviously played a part in this.

Costas: How would you define the part you played? What are you willing to concede that you've done that was wrong and that you wish you had not done?

Sandusky: Well, in retrospect, I ... you know ... I shouldn't have showered with those kids. And, some...

Costas: That's it?

Sandusky: Yeah, that's what hits me the most.

Costas: Are you a pedophile?

Sandusky: No.

Costas: Are you sexually attracted to young boys? To underage boys?

Sandusky: Am I sexually attracted to underage boys?

Costas: Yes.

Sandusky: Sexually attracted? You know, I enjoy young people. I love to be around them. I ... but, no, I am not sexually attracted to young boys.

Costas: Obviously, you're entitled to a presumption of innocence and you will receive a vigorous defense. On the other hand, there is a tremendous amount of information out there and fair-minded, common sense people have concluded that you are guilty of monstrous acts. And they are particularly unforgiving with the type of crimes that have been alleged here. And, so, millions of Americans who didn't know Jerry Sandusky's name until a week ago now regard you not only as a criminal but -- I say this I think in a considered way -- but as some sort of a monster. How do you respond to them?

Sandusky: I don't know what I can say or what I could say that would make anybody feel any different now. I would just say that if somehow people could hang on until my attorney has a chance to fight you know for my innocence. But that's about all I could ask right now and you know obviously it's a huge challenge.

[Stringer_Bell]

After the game, talking about the Kings win...

“It’s not a rivalry,” Kobe Bryant (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3118/) said. “We beat them every year. Oh my God. I don’t care if they beat us tonight. I like (Kings owners Joe and Gavin Maloof). I hope they enjoy this.”

[baseline bum]

CROFL.... all I heard from Laker fans was how stupid the Chris Paul trade was and how they wanted no part of it, and now 2 weeks later it's constant bitching about the trade not going down. It's like Fabbs had hundreds of bastard children and taught them how to create threads.

[FkLA]

You guys are only catching on NOW?

The rigging has been obvious since 2002.

Currently, 22 out of 30 teams lose money.

These are the expensive toys of very rich boys from the corporate world who got very rich by cheating when necessary in order to get ahead.

Investment bankers expect the government to bail them out if they lose all their money, and it has.

These owners expect Stern to do the same for them. They make bad deals and then demand protection.

The sad fact of the matter is that when you are the #1 most hated team, there is a profit to be made on screwing you over publicly. Fans of other teams go crazy for it.

Kobe was the most hated player for years and wasn't permitted to win again until he rehabilitated his image at the Beijing Olympics.

As Bill Russell said, it's a game of entertainment now.

Other franchises do not have the history of the Lakers, with Chick Hearn giving props to the other teams and not being a sycophant homer. WE don't want to win through a rig job.

Other teams' fans are only too happy to win through a rig job. Watching the Lakers lose is what they crave, it doesn't matter if it's not a sporting contest.

Unless the NBA is administered by an impartial third party, it will continue to have these conflicts of interest.

:lmao

response to above post:


Exactly... You get it. I'll take it even a step further and say this has been going on since before Jordan got suspended for gambling for a year and a half under the guise of "retirement". Jordan's ring total was inflated as well. Ask a player from the '93 Knicks and '97 Jazz off record if the Bulls won legitimately, You'll probably get some interesting answers. Shaq and Kobe even benefitted from it as well (see: 4th qtr Game 7 2000 WCF and the Entire 2002 WCF). Stern was so livid at Kobe about Colorado that he ordered the most blatant rig job of the Stern-era in the form of the 2004 Finals (Which will forever have an asterisk by it in my mind). When Stern says he knows where the bodies are buried, He really means it.

:lmao:lmao

[Giuseppe]

CROFL.... all I heard from Laker fans was how stupid the Chris Paul trade was and how they wanted no part of it, and now 2 weeks later it's constant bitching about the trade not going down.

Never said such.

[Scrub]

Expect Lakers to lose to a second devision Greek team when Kobe shoots 28 times. He should be a clear 2nd option when Bynum returns. Bynum&Gasol should take 40 shots a game between them and Kobe no more than 16 imho. But it will never happen, Kobe being a chucker that he is, and the Lakers will suffer from that until he retires.

[Giuseppe]

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

is the way to suffer.

[jag]

Kobe watch:

FGs - 10/24
3PT - 0/4
TO - 2
BA - 1

[Giuseppe]

Kobe watch:

FGs - 10/24
3PT - 0/4
TO - 2
BA - 1

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[jag]

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

Let's live in the present my friend.

[Giuseppe]

Let's live in the present my friend.

My ass.

[Killakobe81]

Let's live in the present my friend.

Present? past is much brighter for the spurs as well ...

[jag]

My ass.

Come take a walk with me... you and I, we'll leave the dynasties behind and venture into the harsh and lonely future of rebuilding.

[jag]

Present? past is much brighter for the spurs as well ...

This I know, my friend.

[Killakobe81]

This I know, my friend.

Nice win last night regardless.

[Giuseppe]

Come take a walk with me... you and I, we'll leave the dynasties behind and venture into the harsh and lonely future of rebuilding.

Speak for yourself.

[jag]

Nice win last night regardless.

Yeah manu looked good. If the Spurs had a legit big-man to put next to this version of Duncan then I'd feel confident with them at least putting in a decent playoff run. It's sad that they're a small ball team now.

[jag]

Speak for yourself.

Yeah you probably want nothing to do with rebuilding. A few more losses and your pussy ass will probably disappear. Not only from Spurstalk, but also from the Lakers bandwagon.

[Killakobe81]

Manu is nails ...

Everyone lamenting Paul and that did hurt us, but I would take Manu right now. If you put them in the same backcourt though aging both can handle and shoot well enough to make it work.

But yall won't let him go and we have nothing to offer ...

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

My T-Pups are gonna take a shit on the Lakers and Spurs

NB:lol = f:lolcked

[jag]

Manu is nails ...

Everyone lamenting Paul and that did hurt us, but I would take Manu right now. If you put them in the same backcourt though aging both can handle and shoot well enough to make it work.

But yall won't let him go and we have nothing to offer ...

Manu is like Jesus in SA. He's not going anywhere. I hope Tony finishes his career in SA, but I can see him being dealt within the next couple seasons. It's too bad the bea*ners in SA don't like him for some strange reason. Lakers should have made a play for Tony.

[jag]

My T-Pups are gonna take a shit on the Lakers and Spurs

NB:lol = f:lolcked

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217901/ep1.jpg

Ricky's got ho's

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

tbh people in SA not liking T-Park has a lot to do with being outplayed by Mike C:lolnley

[Killakobe81]

Though he would help us, I can't stand Frenchy either. his contract is not crazy but I still think he is overpaid. he is plenty better than Fish and Blake but for even his contract I would want more.

[Giuseppe]

My T-Pups

Uh, uh, sammykins. You're with the Suns and you're being held to that account.

Let us proceed...

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217901/ep1.jpg

Ricky's got ho's

And so does Derrick Williams, I know a few of the hoes he had in Tucson :lol

[jag]

tbh people in SA not liking T-Park has a lot to do with being outplayed by Mike C:lolnley

That overpaid scrub ass n*gga was playing out of his mind. He's so inconsistent he accidentally plays hard sometimes.

[Giuseppe]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/217901/ep1.jpg

Ricky's got ho's

Makes me nary difference.

[Giuseppe]

Yeah you probably want nothing to do with rebuilding. A few more losses and your pussy ass will probably disappear. Not only from Spurstalk, but also from the Lakers bandwagon.

I never defend my fandom.

It's my religion.

[Killakobe81]

I tell you what, I heard rumors of a Pau for Love trade ...Rubio and Pau are close, in fact I hear Pau (and his brother) helped encourage him a bit to come over.

We would get smaller and Love's post game is no where near Pau's but I could get why we would consider we need to get younger even if we scarifice some wins.

But Love is only restricted next season, so Kahn could force Love to play it out ...but if Pau was added and Williams develops they are looking at a really nice squad. Heck they stand pat they are intriguing but they lack a post threat. Key is resigning Love long-term...if not they need to get good pieces for him.

[jag]

I never defend my fandom.

It's my religion.

Easy to be a fan when you're winning the last game you play every season. It's harder to be a Suns fan... isn't Culburn?

[Giuseppe]

Easy to be a fan when you're winning the last game you play every season. It's harder to be a Suns fan... isn't Culburn?

I never defend my fandom.

It's my religion.

[Giuseppe]

I tell you what, I heard rumors of a Pau for Love trade ...Rubio and Pau are close, in fact I hear Pau (and his brother) helped encourage him a bit to come over.

We would get smaller and Love's post game is no where near Pau's but I could get why we would consider we need to get younger even if we scarifice some wins.

But Love is only restricted next season, so Kahn could force Love to play it out ...but if Pau was added and Williams develops they are looking at a really nice squad. Heck they stand pat they are intriguing but they lack a post threat. Key is resigning Love long-term...if not they need to get good pieces for him.

I'd hate to deal with Kahn. He's a royal fuck.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

lol Lakers fan from Cleveland and Phoenix

[Axe Murderer]

The Teardrop

[Giuseppe]

lol Lakers fan from Cleveland and Phoenix

Ain't nothin' wrong with that, daddy.

Just don't try and pull anymore fast ones with this Wolves shit. You started with the Suns. And that's your destiny.

Let us proceed...

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

The Prediction



The Opinion

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Ain't nothin' wrong with that, daddy.

Just don't try and pull anymore fast ones with this Wolves shit. You started with the Suns. And that's your destiny.

Let us proceed...
You didn't started with the Lakers

[Giuseppe]

You didn't started with the Lakers

I never defend my fandom.

It's my religion.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You don't have to defend anything, the fact is you didn't start with the Lakers

[Giuseppe]

The Prediction



The Opinion


You've nary room. You said the players would wax the owners. You were wrong, daddy-O.

[Giuseppe]

You don't have to defend anything, the fact is you didn't start with the Lakers

I never defend my fandom.

Its my religion.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You don't have to defend anything, the fact is you didn't start with the Lakers

[Giuseppe]

I never defend my fandom.

Its my religion.

[Axe Murderer]

Spring '11

November '11

The Prediction

The Opinion

The Teardrop

Jimmer

[Giuseppe]

Spring '11

November '11

The Prediction

The Opinion

The Teardrop

Jimmer

I bear my crosses in public.

Let us proceed...

[jag]

You don't have to defend anything, the fact is you didn't start with the Lakers

:corn:

[Giuseppe]

I never defend my fandom.

Its my religion.

[jag]

I'm not sure how Culburn's fanhood never comes into question. If these allegations are true, then he basically epitomizes everything wrong with sports fans.

If an NBA forum fanhood audit were to take place, I have a feeling Culburn would be found wanting.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

audit my dick, bitch!

[DaDakota]

If Cousins plays that hard all year, Sacremento is going to be tough.

DD

[Killakobe81]

If Cousins plays that hard all year, Sacremento is going to be tough.

DD

Mehh Thorton is the goods but cousins should of dominated us, he had little impact until late when the Lakers were worn down. He has game, but I hate his mental make-up.

[Pelicans78]

Thornton is their best player. However he and Evans aren't a good mix in the backcourt and Jimmer is terrible. They need a solid PG like Udrih. Cousins has upside, but I don' think he will be great or even very good.

[BUMP]

audit my dick, bitch!

:lol who said det?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol who said det?
the troll accountant created to mock m>s has it as his user title. I for some reason found the phrase hilarious and have spammed it ever since.

[Giuseppe]

the troll accountant created to mock m>s has it as his user title. I for some reason found the phrase hilarious and have spammed it ever since.

Yes, you've covered my page with that malarkey.

Ya little cutie, you.

[Spur_Fanatic]

I tell you what, I heard rumors of a Pau for Love trade ...Rubio and Pau are close, in fact I hear Pau (and his brother) helped encourage him a bit to come over.

We would get smaller and Love's post game is no where near Pau's but I could get why we would consider we need to get younger even if we scarifice some wins.

But Love is only restricted next season, so Kahn could force Love to play it out ...but if Pau was added and Williams develops they are looking at a really nice squad. Heck they stand pat they are intriguing but they lack a post threat. Key is resigning Love long-term...if not they need to get good pieces for him.

Getting Love for Gasol is a step back. Come on, that'd only leave you Bynum in the inside. That's not consistency, that's lunacy (cause Bynum is terrible).
Now, if you get D-Will... with what? Bynum?

Lakers need to do something they've never ever done before... Draft well, get a promising gun (that stays healthy), get a few good steals in the 2nd rounds, and hope for the best. All this, or wait till Kobe's contract is over.

The years with PJax in charge finally had it's due: PJax can't develope talent, nor raise young players, and after so many years, that took it's toll.

[Red Hawk #21]

Marcus Thornton is a friggin problem. That is all.

[Giuseppe]

The years with PJax in charge finally had it's due: PJax can't develope talent, nor raise young players, and after so many years, that took it's toll.

The Toll

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[Spur_Fanatic]

As good as PJax is, nurturing talent is not one of his skills.

Don't be butthurt.

[Killakobe81]

As good as PJax is, nurturing talent is not one of his skills.

Don't be butthurt.

I agree. Mj developed Scottie ... Kobe pretty much developed himself ...

PJ was great at 5 things:

1. Managing egos
2. Utilizing role players (kerr, Paxson, Fisher, horry, Kerr)
3. Handling the media
4. Never caoching in panic mode
5. Milking the most out of past their prime vets: (Ron Harper, Cartwright)

Developing rookies not so much ...

[Killakobe81]

And I didnt say Gasol for Love was a great swap, just saying I get the need for getting younger. Current cast got swept. Salary cap limited our ability to add to that overpriced core. Spurfanatic is right, we paid the price of having a team that won 2 out 3 Finals ...
We couldnt break that team up (like the Mavs) we let it ride won back to back before the wheels fell off ...

[Giuseppe]

...they ain't off yet. There is only 3 lug studs instead of five though on some of the wheels. Hell, I've driven like that off & on for over 40 years.