TJ Ford..

[HarlemHeat37]

It's painful to watch him, tbh..

Hopefully Neal takes his minutes, once he returns..

[thekingrobert]

totally agree

[urunobili]

Will we see some Joseph at all :rolleyes

[Brazil]

yeah he sucks

[dbestpro]

Ford is just keeping Neal's seat warm. He is a 3rd string backup point guard. Joseph will be D-league this year. No big deal.

[Nathan89]

It's painful to watch him, tbh..

Hopefully Neal takes his minutes, once he returns..

I expect him to play 8-10 mpg but Neal should take the rest of the minutes.

[Drewlius]

lol, what? Ford was great tonight, complete opposite of Parker(Not a knock on Tony), actually facilitates the basketball. Thought his passing was superb.

[Cry Havoc]

lol, what? Ford was great tonight, complete opposite of Parker(Not a knock on Tony), actually facilitates the basketball. Thought his passing was superb.

Tony played extremely well in the 2nd half. Not sure which game you were watching.

[Drewlius]

Tony played extremely well in the 2nd half. Not sure which game you were watching.

Not sure what post you are reading.

[ChumpDumper]

I've seen worse backup point guards for the Spurs.

[Bill_Brasky]

I want CoJo to get a chance.

[024]

ford seems decent. at least he's not mason.

[ducks]

I've seen worse backup point guards for the Spurs.

yeah his name was avery johnson

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

definitely would love to see less of him once Neal comes back. On the other hand, the spurs has got a bench!!!!!!!!!!

[ColinB]

Ford had a couple terrible TOs, but he mostly did what he was supposed to do. Not really sure what many expected.

My only complaint is that he does hold the ball too long sometimes, but Parker does the same thing.

[Robz4000]

TJ wasn't bad tonight. He made some mistakes but overall he was good at passing and creating plays. I also liked his hustle. Keep in mind he isn't our starter but merely a backup.

[Brazil]

lol, what? Ford was great tonight, complete opposite of Parker(Not a knock on Tony), actually facilitates the basketball. Thought his passing was superb.

:lol

[GSH]

In the pre-game, didn't Pop say something about T.J. putting in a "solid seven minutes" this season? It sounded like that's what he has planned for him.

[MaNu4Tres]

I'm not a fan of his.

It's more frustrating when he elects to be a dribbling-whore waiting for the right, crisp screen in half court sets. All that does is drain the shot clock and forces other players to take bad/quick shots whenever he finally decides to give it up.

[Drewlius]

I'm not a fan of his.

It's more frustrating when he elects to be a dribbling-whore waiting for the right, crisp screen in half court sets. All that does is drain the shot clock and forces other players to take bad/quick shots whenever he finally decides to give it up.

He actually got RJ to start catch and shooting & had him showing aggressiveness that is often non-existent.

[DPG21920]

He's not great but he played a capable first half.

[Manu-of-steel]

TJ Ford was an upgrade compared to Quinn. He was not great, but at least, decent. What i would like to see is how Joseph would fit in this Spurs team. I love his defense.,

[HarlemHeat37]

Ford is a slightly more talented Jacque Vaughn, without the defense..

[MaNu4Tres]

He actually got RJ to start catch and shooting & had him showing aggressiveness that is often non-existent.

R.J was aggressive because R.J decided to be aggressive. The past year, he's always been aggressive or took his 3's in catch and shoot situations (if that's what the defense gave the Spurs). That was existent for about 90% of last year. He just totally laid an egg the last 4 games of the playoffs last year (which was crucial).

There were times tonight where Ford did give it up to Jefferson, but it should have happened even more and sooner in the shot clock as Jefferson, along with Anderson, were the best weapons on the floor during a great portion of the 2nd quarter. (Instead Ford often over-dribbled and drained too much of the shot clock. IMO)

I'm hoping Neal gets Ford's minutes when he gets back.

[therealtruth]

I agree Ford isn't perfect but he speeds up the game and looks to get others involved.

[Drewlius]

R.J was aggressive because R.J decided to be aggressive. The past year, he's always been aggressive or took his 3's in catch and shoot situations (if that's what the defense gave the Spurs). That was existent for about 90% of last year. He just totally laid an egg the last 4 games of the playoffs last year (which was crucial).

There were times tonight where Ford did give it up to Jefferson, but it should have happened even more and sooner in the shot clock as Jefferson, along with Anderson, were the best weapons on the floor during a great portion of the 2nd quarter. (Instead Ford often over-dribbled and drained too much of the shot clock. IMO)

I'm hoping Neal gets Ford's minutes when he gets back.

Fair enough, and it's obvious that Neal should get more playing time than Ford, but there are certainly times that will call for a passing PG as opposed to a shoot 1st PG.

[DAF86]

Whoever thinks Ford will be a useful piece for this team doesn't know shit, tbh, imho.

[Drewlius]

Whoever thinks Ford will be a useful piece for this team doesn't know shit, tbh, imho.

Logical posting tbh.

[timvp]

Longhorn Fan vs. Reality is going to be an interesting battle this season. I got my money on Reality but Lonhorn Fan won't be short on faith.

That said, I can't hate on what Ford did tonight. Compared to his normal over-dribbling ways, he was damn near playing hot potato. As long as Ford doesn't waste too many possessions and competes defensively, that's about as much as one can expect.

Although I still don't understand how the FO thought he was a fit. This roster calls for a point guard who can either shoot, defend or be a weapon on pick-and-rolls. Ford is 0-for-3 in those qualifications. I'm hopeful Ford makes it work -- and he's actually giving me hope so far because he's already better than he was last year -- but it's going to be tough.

[timvp]

In the pre-game, didn't Pop say something about T.J. putting in a "solid seven minutes" this season? It sounded like that's what he has planned for him.

Believe he said "solid set of minutes". And that means Ford has the backup PG on lock until he crashes and burns.

[gospursgojas]

Being a Lil harsh on Tj. First game as a spur....I think he did fine.

[GSH]

Whoever thinks Ford will be a useful piece for this team doesn't know shit, tbh, imho.


wtf imo tbh, lol. smh.

[GSH]

Believe he said "solid set of minutes". And that means Ford has the backup PG on lock until he crashes and burns.


Thanks. I asked the people I was watching with, and we all heard "seven". That makes more sense. Didn't seem like something he would say out loud, even if he was thinking it. But then again, Pop doesn't always have much of a filter between brain and mouth.

[DMC]

Give him time to learn the system. Good grief. It's amazing he can do anything with this short period of practice/game experience with the squad.

[ace3g]

Thought this photo would fit here

http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/nba/teamsites/release/spurs/sites/spurs/files/imagecache/local_image_gallery_default/111226_35.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't like the way he handled the half-assed press they were using against him. Otherwise he was just OK.

[ElNono]

He had a few possessions where he really struggled and turned it over, but at least he stopped dribbling down the clock while Manu was out there with him. Basically, he didn't get in the way of both runs the team had today in both halves. Agree Neal should get his minutes though.

[ElNono]

At least when the Spurs waive him, he can go play in the Greek league

[ChumpDumper]

Where are all the morons that were bashing me because I said he sucks? Where are all the idiots that attacked me because I said he played like trash in Euroleague this year?

Where are they?I'm right here, dumbass.

Your analysis of the box scores of two games sucked as bad as your analysis of tonight's box score.

[stephen jackson]

gtfoh

[therealtruth]

I knew he was going to get his cookies stolen by Pargo. He just has to be able to take care of the ball and make the right decisions and compete on defense.

[ChumpDumper]

No he can't. Street balling point guards would always be cut within 1-2 games in the Greek League.Except when they aren't.

[ChumpDumper]

No he can't. Street balling point guards would always be cut within 1-2 games in the Greek League.Greeks never last more than one season in the NBA.

[scottspurs]

T.J. Ford was good tonight. He is finding his groove and made up for Parker coming out flat.

Ford is the Best in Texas.

[ChuckD]

The one thing Ford brings to the table is NBA ability lane penetration. I'm not sure we've ever had that in a backup PG. In the past, the second unit ran a lot of plays where the ball just swung around the horn, with maybe a SG doing some penetration and kick action. They can run a lot of the same sets they run for Parker.

That being said, TJ REALLY needs to learn not to dribble himself too deep into defensive traffic. Also, they will eventually make him shoot the ball, which is a bad thing. One thing that can forestall that is if he learns to effectively split NBA traps the way Parker seems to effortlessly do.

[The Truth #6]

Better than Quinn, RMJ, and NVE as a backup. Probably better than even Hill as far as acting like a PG...but Joseph still seems to be a better prospect as of right now. I'm not sure if Neal could "penetrate" as well as Ford, but I think his other skills like shooting and PnR would be more useful. Big picture: it's good to have 3 viable options...but typical that Pop is going with the worst one.

[cd98]

Too much hate on TJ Ford. He's not a bad player, and probably one of the better back up point guards.

He's playing the point guard position with two preseason games under his belt and a handful of practices. Of course he is going to turn the ball over a little and not run as smoothly. Look around the league. Turnovers are up. Teams are getting in shape. He wasn't the only one showing signs of needing to get used to his new teamates and getting in shape. Let's give him a couple of games before reaching any conclusions.

[JR3]

Dribble Dribble Dribble.... Can't stay in front of man on defense..... Dribble Dribble Dribble... Can't....

[yavozerb]

TJ has only been running the spurs offense for a couple of weeks now. I do not think he has been bad at all and I anticipate less dribbling once he knows where everyone is supposed to on the floor and can work the ball around. Funny to think that some posters thought by some miracle TJ would be a good defender even though he has been below average dating back to college...

[Cant_Be_Faded]

You people are retarded. Criticize him when he actually plays badly. He may have passed p late in the shot clock but a ended up getting open shots on the perimeter as well as an easy bucket low for splitter. In full court transition I saw enough to be excited bout what he has to offer. He gave us solid minutes last night

[BackHome]

What game were people watching I thought he did pretty good playing backup on a brand new team. He played a hell of a lot better then freakin Bonner..........

[Nathan89]

hyeah tj ford really sucked it up last night

1 turnover, +11 in 15 minutes

we need to bring back the San Antonio Vaughns

Just a tad better than Bonner who had a good night himself with +7.

[angelbelow]

I'm a bit torn.. I feel like TJ needs to provide an offensive spark off the bench because his defense isn't going to stand out. With Tiago and KL looking bad on offense but being MUST play players because of their superb D, we need some help scoring the ball. JA will help, the big 3 will be the big 3, and the small glimpse of DB's offense looked good, but we need something from TJ. Whether that means him returning to his aggressive drives or making good decisions on passing.. were going to need him. Lets hope he provides a positive result on the offensive end with the season going forward.

[callo1]

Ford played good when Tony was bad in the first quarter. After that TJ didn't look so great. I honestly think it is harder for a vet to come in and pick up the system than it is for a rookie in some ways. A vet has to unlearn much of their game. Remember Fin and Brent?

All TJ has to do is distribute and play decent defense, he doesn't have to score much.

I believe he will end up doing fine. His quickness is still there, so the rest will come.

This team has a large amount of potential that can be filled by the evolution of Tiago, JA and Leonard.

[Biggems]

I am a TJ Ford fan and was stoked when he was signed....however, last night he was putrid. He looked like an old broken down racehorse that needs to be sent to the glue factory. I know it was only one game, so I will give him about 2 weeks before I decide how I truly feel about him as a Spur. Right now, I have a thumbs down after one game, but that could easily change if he comes back to play a strong game tomorrow night.

[thOOdee]

maybe competition between him a joseph is whats needed...luv that we have some options at the point now, but from what I've seen so far i really think joseph has got the edge. i know this isn't much of a comparison but the limited minutes I've seen so far with the way he handles the ball kinda reminds me a lot of parker.

[Biggems]

I told you he was complete trash this season in the Euroleague.

You guys need to start listening to what I tell you.

i dont recall anyone telling me anything....at any rate, it is disheartening to see how far his play has fallen off.

[Biggems]

Greeks never last more than one season in the NBA.

Seikaly being the exception, but I am not sure if he is an actual Greek or an American of Greek descent.

[Josepatches_]

Seikaly being the exception, but I am not sure if he is an actual Greek or an American of Greek descent.

Seikaly was born in Beirut, Lebanon

He was unable to attain Greek citizenship due to bureaucratic problems, but he later became a naturalized American citizen


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[timvp]

The last decent Greek athlete was Achilles ... and even he ended up being a China Doll.

[ChumpDumper]

Seikaly being the exception, but I am not sure if he is an actual Greek or an American of Greek descent.Lebanese tbh.

Went to an American school in Greece and never became a Greek citizen.

Ever.

[HarlemHeat37]

I actually didn't think Ford played terribly last night..

The reason I made this thread is to comment on his style of play..it doesn't translate to winning basketball..I don't understand the comments, in regards to his experience with the team and adjusting..Ford has played the same style on every team he has played for..

He doesn't play D, he can't shoot, be overdribbles..

I know there are a lot of Ford homers here, due to his college affiliation, but it's evident that his style of play won't translate to winning IMO..

[LaMarcus Bryant]

We don't know that yet. TJ Ford has played on loser teams for his entire career. By definition saying he plays loser ball doesn't make sense cuz even with Chris Paul the teams he's played on would be losers.

Alllll weeee are saaaaaying....is give him a chance.

[Manu-of-steel]

We don't know that yet. TJ Ford has played on loser teams for his entire career. By definition saying he plays loser ball doesn't make sense cuz even with Chris Paul the teams he's played on would be losers.

Alllll weeee are saaaaaying....is give him a chance.

Yep. Give TJ a chance. Also Joseph.