#1 overall picks and SuperBowls

[Fabbs]

Colts and Jags claim they are playing to win.
To the point of #1 overall, is Jim Irsay correct? What has history shown?

"We're not going after anything but a win n Jacksonville, look at the last half century of SupBowl winners n c how many had 1st pick," Jim Irsay wrote on Twitter late Tuesday night.

List
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/alltimeno1

[Fabbs]

I dunno, Irsay, i see a fair amount of Bowl appearances in there. (Post the ones i miss, boardies. + i only went back to 1970.) But enough? Does Irsay have a point?

2010 Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma St. Louis Rams 1 0
2009 Matthew Stafford QB Georgia Detroit Lions - -
2008 Jake Long OT Michigan Miami Dolphins 1 1
2007 JaMarcus Russell QB LSU Oakland Raiders 2 0
2006 Mario Williams DE N. Carolina State Houston Texans 3 1
2005 Alex Smith QB Utah San Francisco 49ers 4 0
2004 Eli Manning QB Mississippi San Diego Chargers 5
2003 Carson Palmer QB Southern Cal. Cincinnati Bengals 6
2002 David Carr QB Fresno State Houston Texans 7 0
2001 Michael Vick QB Virginia Tech Atlanta Falcons 6 3
2000 Courtney Brown DE Penn State Cleveland Browns 7 0
1999 Tim Couch QB Kentucky Cleveland Browns 6 0
1998 Peyton Manning QB Tennessee Indianapolis Colts
1997 Orlando Pace OT Ohio State St. Louis Rams 12 7
1996 Keyshawn Johnson WR Southern Cal. New Y Jets
1995 Ki-Jana Carter RB Penn State Cincinnati Bengals 8 0
1994 Dan Wilkinson DT Ohio State Cincinnati Bengals 13 0
1993 Drew Bledsoe QB Washington State New E Patriots
1992 Steve Emtman DT Washington Indianapolis Colts 8
1991 Russell Maryland DT Miami, (Fla.) Dallas Cowboys 10 1
1990 Jeff George QB Illinois Indianapolis Colts 13 0
1989 *Troy Aikman QB UCLA Dallas Cowboys 12 6
1988 Aundray Bruce LB Auburn Atlanta Falcons 11 0
1987 Vinny Testaverde QB Miami, (Fla.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1986 Bo Jackson RB Auburn Tampa Bay Buccaneers 4 1
1985 Bruce Smith DE Virginia Tech Buffalo Bills 18 11
1984 Irving Fryar WR Nebraska New England Patriots 15
1983 *John Elway QB Stanford Baltimore Colts 16 10
1982 Kenneth Sims DT Texas New England Patriots 8 0
1981 George Rogers RB South Carolina New Orleans Saints 7
1980 Bill Sims RB Oklahoma Detroit Lions 5 3
1979 Tom Cousineau LB Ohio State Buffalo Bills 6 0
1978 *Earl Campbell RB Texas Houston Oilers 8 5
1977 Ricky Bell RB Southern Cal. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1976 *Lee Roy Selmon DE Oklahoma Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1975 Steve Bartkowski QB California Atlanta Falcons 12 2
1974 Ed 'Too Tall' Jones DE Tenn State Dallas Cowboys
1973 John Matuszak DE Tampa Houston Oilers 9
1972 Walt Patulski DT Notre Dame Buffalo Bills 5 0
1971 Jim Plunkett QB Stanford New England Patriots
1970 *Terry Bradshaw QB Louisiana T Pitt Steelers
1969 *O.J. Simpson RB Southern Cal. Buffalo Bills 11 6
1968 *Ron Yary OT Southern Cal. Minnesota Vikings 15 7
1967 Bubba Smith DE Michigan State Baltimore Colts 9 2
1966 Jim Grabowski RB Illinois Miami Dolphins (AFL) 6 0
1966 Tommy Nobis LB Texas Atlanta Falcons (NFL) 11 5
1965 Lawrence Elkins WR Baylor Houston Oilers (AFL) 2 0
1965 T. Frederickson RB Auburn New York Giants (NFL) 6 1
1964 Jack Concannon QB Boston College Boston Patriots (AFL) 10
1964 Dave Parks WR Texas Tech San Francisco 49ers (NFL) 10
1963 *Buck Buchanan DT Grambling Kansas City Chiefs (AFL) 13
1963 Terry Baker QB Oregon State Los Angeles Rams (NFL)
1962 Roman Gabriel QB N. Carolina State Oakland Raiders (AFL) 16
1962 Ernie Davis RB Syracuse Washington Redskins (NFL) DNP -
1961 Ken Rice G Auburn Buffalo Bills (AFL) 6 1
1961 Tommy Mason RB Tulane Minnesota Vikings (NFL) 11
1960 Billy Cannon RB Louisiana State Los Angeles Rams 11
1959 Randy Duncan QB Iowa Green Bay Packers 1 0
1958 King Hill QB Rice Chicago Cardinals 12 0
1957 *Paul Hornung HB Notre Dame Green Bay Packers 9
1956 Gary Glick DB Colorado A&M Pittsburgh Steelers 7 0
1955 George Shaw QB Oregon Baltimore Colts 8 0
1954 Bobby Garrett QB Stanford Cleveland Browns 1 0
1953 Harry Babcock E Georgia San Francisco 49ers 3 3
1952 Bill Wade QB Vanderbilt Los Angeles Rams 13 2
1951 Kyle Rote HB SMU New York Giants 11 4
1950 Leon Hart E Notre Dame Detroit Lions 8 1
1949 *Chuck Bednarik C/LB Pennsylvania Philadelphia Eagles 12 8
1948 Harry Gilmer QB Alabama Washington Redskins 2 0
1947 Bob Fenimore HB Oklahoma State Chicago Bears 1 0
1946 Frank Dancewicz QB Notre Dame Boston Yanks 3 0
1945 *Charley Trippi HB Georgia Chicago Cardinals 9 2
1944 Angelo Bertelli QB Notre Dame Boston Yanks 3 0
1943 Frank Sinkwich HB Georgia Detroit Lions 4 0
1942 *Bill Dudley HB Virginia Pittsburgh Steelers 9 3
1941 Tom Harmon HB Michigan Chicago Bears 2 0
1940 George Cafego HB Tennessee Chicago Cardinals 4 0
1939 Ki Aldrich C Texas Christian Chicago Cardinals 7 2
1938 Corbett Davis FB Indiana Cleveland Rams DNP -
1937 Sam Francis FB Nebraska Philadelphia Eagles 4 0
1936 Jay Berwanger HB Chicago Philadelphia Eagles DNP

[Flintstones32]

To me it sounds like he is saying how many teams who get the first pick actually win the super bowl the next year.

But either way, I think you try to win no matter who you are and what position winning/losing will get you. That's just me. Tanking is a disgrace.

[Fabbs]

^ Well of course not if it was just for the following years shot at a Bowl and no no more.

But this list shows many #1s became part of long running Bowl Winning/Bowl Contending teams. Certainly not all by themselves but they sure could be called catalysts.

[JoeTait75]

Bubba Smith (Colts) and Ron Yary (Vikings) were both big parts of teams that went to multiple Super Bowls. George Rogers started for the Redskins when they went to the SB in 1987 (although he didn't play in the game; Timmy Smith played and set a SB rushing record.)

And then there are good players on that list that didn't make it to the SB, not necessarily through any fault of their own (Steve Bartkowski, Earl Campbell, Billy Sims, O.J.).

I'm actually not sure what point Irsay is making. Obviously a team that drafts #1 is generally going to have a tough time reaching a Super Bowl, because it's a bad team- it has to be bad to draft #1. That's the correlation, I think.

[monosylab1k]

Russell Maryland was part of the Cowboys dynasty.

and Irsay is saying this because he's trying to spin a really shitty situation. That franchise is completely lost and rudderless at the moment. Nobody there has any idea what the fuck to do and nobody is steering the ship.

Not to say that they are all stupid for being that way. It's a tough decision to make. On the one hand, Peyton is approaching tired old shit bag status, his neck is in bad shape, and he may never play well again. On the other hand, he's Peyton Fucking Manning, the 2nd best QB of his era and a top 5 QB all time. If he recovers, he might have 5+ more years of great football left.

But those guys were hired to make the tough decisions. Either you're committed to Manning or you're committed to rebuilding for the future. Being so wishy washy all year has fucked them over, and will continue to do so.

[Obstructed_View]

They'd probably get fined for saying they want to lose, so they pay lip service to it. Luck is by-far the biggest value pick in the draft, whether you need a QB or not. Nobody ever won a super bowl by intentionally passing up talent or value when they had the opportunity.