Source: Magic Waiting To See Bynum Play In 9 More Games Before They Pull The Trigger [Archive]

Koolaid_Man

01-03-2012, 12:39 PM

I've heard they like what they saw against Denver and think that Drew's game is more polished than Howard's...sources close to the situation say they now realize they won't get anything better than the 2nd most dominant big man in the league. Source and Link coming soon...but I've verified and it looks legit..my word is bond fellas...:toast

Giuseppe

01-03-2012, 12:42 PM

Kobe would finally have a fulltime toady if Howard came West. Aside from that and a superlative dominatrix that's all that's left that he hasn't had.

Sportcamper

01-03-2012, 12:46 PM

Wasn’t the hold up the Lakers not willing to take on the Hedo Turkoglu
contract? Lakers don't need to see anymore of Bynum...

lefty

01-03-2012, 12:47 PM

They want to see if he can play 9 games in a row ?

ChumpDumper

01-03-2012, 12:50 PM

lol more polished

Sportcamper

01-03-2012, 12:50 PM

They want to see if he can play 9 games in a row ?

OK, now that makes more sense...:lol

Amuseddaysleeper

01-03-2012, 12:50 PM

They want to see if he can play 9 games in a row ?

:lmao:lmao

Well played.

stretch

01-03-2012, 12:53 PM

First off, Kool is almost certainly full of crap like he usually is.

Secondly, I still wonder who all the Magic would require from the Lakers to make this happen. They don't really have any trade pieces (of value) outside of Bynum, unless they also plan to offer Gasol, which in that case would be a retarded trade for the Lakers. They are already thin enough on depth as is, and giving up 2 very very good big men for one exceptional big man is stupid as hell for the Lakers, but a major win for Orlando.

Koolaid_Man

01-03-2012, 12:55 PM

stretch

01-03-2012, 12:55 PM

lol more polished

IMO, it's definitely a valid critique. Bynum definitely has a bigger assortment of post moves that are not heavily reliant on extreme athleticism. Much better footwork, fantastic touch around the rim, and a nice floater/hook.

Dwight has definitely improved his skillset, but still relies very heavily on athletic ability. I have a hard time believing Dwight would survive as well as Bynum has if he had blown out his knees multiple times like Drew.

jacobdrj

01-03-2012, 12:56 PM

If Orlando can con the Lakers into taking back Jameer with Howard, a Bynum trade would be a net win for the Magic... That little twerp cost the Magic any chance at being competitive in the Finals...

stretch

01-03-2012, 12:57 PM

Hey Stretched Asshole they can have one or the other but not both :lol

Yeah, so I strongly doubt the Magic would be stupid enough to straight up trade Howard for Bynum, if they could get 5 first rounders out of the Nets. Yeah, I understand the Magic want players that can help now, but getting ONE player who has a history of injury I'm sure isn't exactly fitting that bill either. Only an absolute moron would turn down that many 1st rounders for a guy like Bynum.

Koolaid_Man

01-03-2012, 12:57 PM

If Orlando can con the Lakers into taking back Jameer with Howard, a Bynum trade would be a net win for the Magic... That little twerp cost the Magic any chance at being competitive in the Finals...

not gonna happen...it will be our way or the highway...they want Bynum real bad...

Giuseppe

01-03-2012, 12:58 PM

Hey Stretched Asshole

:lol

Koolaid_Man

01-03-2012, 12:58 PM

Yeah, so I strongly doubt the Magic would be stupid enough to straight up trade Howard for Bynum, if they could get 5 first rounders out of the Nets. Yeah, I understand the Magic want players that can help now, but getting ONE player who has a history of injury I'm sure isn't exactly fitting that bill either. Only an absolute moron would turn down that many 1st rounders for a guy like Bynum.

where have you been Mr. Stretched...:lol did you not hear they don't want picks or youth they want vets :lol

Giuseppe

01-03-2012, 12:58 PM

jacobdrj

01-03-2012, 01:01 PM

not gonna happen...it will be our way or the highway...they want Bynum real bad...

Maybe under Dr Buss... But under the current regime... They might be able to wheel and deal...

jacobdrj

01-03-2012, 01:03 PM

Him & Howard both.

Well, when your team works best with 4 athletic/tall/capable 3 point shooters, and your moron coach dismantles this premise by inserting a rusty/short/incapable 3 point shooter for more than 5 minutes... It kind of destroys the system...

ElNono

01-03-2012, 01:06 PM

Spoken like a true loser. Bitch, we not looking to survive, we looking to dominate.

Who's that? The Durant backpack gang?

Sportcamper

01-03-2012, 01:09 PM

Yeah, so I strongly doubt the Magic would be stupid enough to straight up trade Howard for Bynum, if they could get 5 first rounders out of the Nets. .

This!

stretch

01-03-2012, 01:11 PM

where have you been Mr. Stretched...:lol did you not hear they don't want picks or youth they want vets :lol

I already acknowledged that.

Spoken like a true loser. Bitch, we not looking to survive, we looking to dominate.

lol naruto

Koolaid_Man

01-03-2012, 01:13 PM

This!

they don't have a choice... Bynum and Artest For Howard

Sources familiar with Orlando’s thinking say that a picture of what the Magic will ultimately expect in return for their anchor has indeed begun to emerge, telling ESPN.com this week that Orlando would not hold out for youth and draft picks as the league-owned New Orleans Hornets were ordered to do in the Chris Paul (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1115/chris-paul) sweepstakes. The Magic, sources say, would instead prefer to bring back multiple established veterans who can keep the team competitive.

Reason being: Orlando has moved into a new arena last season and has an 85-year-old owner in Rich De Vos. Sources say De Vos has little interest in starting over/rebuilding, as evidenced by the recent decisions to trade for Glen “Big Baby” Davis and re-sign Jason Richardson (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/768/jason-richardson) even though Howard’s future is so murky.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/28/report-magic-want-veterans-not-to-rebuild-after-howard/

Giuseppe

01-03-2012, 01:15 PM

Well, when your team works best with 4 athletic/tall/capable 3 point shooters, and your moron coach dismantles this premise by inserting a rusty/short/incapable 3 point shooter for more than 5 minutes... It kind of destroys the system...

...or, when Howard wants to be Kobe's toady in the start/middle/end of the Finals.

jacobdrj

01-03-2012, 01:23 PM

stretch

01-03-2012, 01:23 PM

they don't have a choice... Bynum and Artest For Howard

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/28/report-magic-want-veterans-not-to-rebuild-after-howard/

A talented yet injury prone center, and a sack of garbage that happens to play the small forward position in basketball is not going to keep them competitive, whatsoever.

stretch

01-03-2012, 01:24 PM

Bynum and Artest for Howard IMHO is not a bad deal...

Obviously you don't realize how badly Artest sucks now...

Koolaid_Man

01-03-2012, 01:26 PM

A talented yet injury prone center, and a sack of garbage that happens to play the small forward position in basketball is not going to keep them competitive, whatsoever.

what's better on the market?

Bynum
Artest
Nelson
J Rich
Big baby
Hedo

that's a nice Vet team that can easily make the play-offs

BUMP

01-03-2012, 01:28 PM

what's better on the market?

Bynum
Artest
Nelson
J Rich
Big baby
Hedo

that's a nice Vet team that can easily make the play-offs

you have a pure angel on your hands...Kori and I have never said anything inappropriate to each other...in fact most all of our conversations have been about you and the family. She told me in detail about what you went through and I told her I would pray for you and I did...I also told her that she was special..given her loyalty and devotion to you through your ordeal you should know that...not many women like her left in the world...she's a beautiful spirit and I've told her such...I think what you both do as far as your family is concerned make you both great humanitarians...so no my friend you have nothing to worry about Kori ain't going no where...the only thing I've ever told her was that she was beautiful and that if you weren't in the picture I'd try to extend my friendship...you actually think I don't know that she tells you what I say...of course I do...and I choose my words carefully...I'm not a home wrecker...trust me she's madly in love with you and you should be proud of her...stop making these type of bullshit ass threads for no good reason...recognize the loyal and devoted angel that you have...

I'm just an ST poster and BTW I realize you guys decided to unshackle me..and I thank you but I'm not like most posters here...I do this for pure entertainment value I never take it personally. Open your eyes brother...

stretch

01-03-2012, 01:30 PM

what's better on the market?

Bynum
Artest
Nelson
J Rich
Big baby
Hedo

that's a nice Vet team that can easily make the play-offs

Yeah, they could most certainly go that route. But it's a pretty damn stupid route to go. Playoffs? Sure. Only to get raped annually by NY and Miami. And with virtually no room for growth. They are much better off trying to rebuild for the future with picks and youth. I find it hard to believe they could be stupid enough to accept such a trade. I think they would only complete a direct trade with LA if they could get Bynum and Gasol both. Otherwise, another team is going to have to get involved and send Orlando another all-star caliber player. IMO, thats the only way the Lakers could land Dwight without giving up both of their big men.

Koolaid_Man

01-03-2012, 01:31 PM

you have a pure angel on your hands...Kori and I have never said anything inappropriate to each other...in fact most all of our conversations have been about you and the family. She told me in detail about what you went through and I told her I would pray for you and I did...I also told her that she was special..given her loyalty and devotion to you through your ordeal you should know that...not many women like her left in the world...she's a beautiful spirit and I've told her such...I think what you both do as far as your family is concerned make you both great humanitarians...so no my friend you have nothing to worry about Kori ain't going no where...the only thing I've ever told her was that she was beautiful and that if you weren't in the picture I'd try to extend my friendship...you actually think I don't know that she tells you what I say...of course I do...and I choose my words carefully...I'm not a home wrecker...trust me she's madly in love with you and you should be proud of her...stop making these type of bullshit ass threads for no good reason...recognize the loyal and devoted angel that you have...

I'm just an ST poster and BTW I realize you guys decided to unshackle me..and I thank you but I'm not like most posters here...I do this for pure entertainment value I never take it personally. Open your eyes brother...

Did I move you Bump....:lol face it you and Mono ( whose screen names ironically sound like STD's) cannot get on my level...:lol

Koolaid_Man

01-03-2012, 01:34 PM

Yeah, they could most certainly go that route. But it's a pretty damn stupid route to go. Playoffs? Sure. Only to get raped annually by NY and Miami. And with virtually no room for growth. They are much better off trying to rebuild for the future with picks and youth. I find it hard to believe they could be stupid enough to accept such a trade. I think they would only complete a direct trade with LA if they could get Bynum and Gasol both. Otherwise, another team is going to have to get involved and send Orlando another all-star caliber player. IMO, thats the only way the Lakers could land Dwight without giving up both of their big men.

Let it play out...Buss has already said it's either or...they're owner is about to die and isn't interested in seeing a rebuilding project..He want's vets it's written in stone and there is not another team out there that can offer a 7 ft and a strong defensive player like Artest...that is really their best deal...you may not like to admit it but it is from a pure basketball perspective if you want Vets and you've limited your selections to NJ, Dallas, and LA...Dallas has nothing that can compare with Bynum and Artest..NOTHING bro...

benefactor

01-03-2012, 01:39 PM

I've heard
I stopped reading there.

Koolaid_Man

01-03-2012, 01:40 PM

I stopped reading there.

stop your lying and keep it real bro :lol

stretch

01-03-2012, 01:51 PM

Let it play out...Buss has already said it's either or...they're owner is about to die and isn't interested in seeing a rebuilding project..He want's vets it's written in stone and there is not another team out there that can offer a 7 ft and a strong defensive player like Artest...that is really their best deal...you may not like to admit it but it is from a pure basketball perspective if you want Vets and you've limited your selections to NJ, Dallas, and LA...Dallas has nothing that can compare with Bynum and Artest..NOTHING bro...

That may or may not be true. Like you said, it has to play out.

However, trading Bynum and Artest for Howard still doesn't help the Lakers a whole lot in terms of where they need help most, which is basically everywhere except the big men. They still have an awful rotation of PGs, an awful rotation of SFs, no backup for Kobe, and have to rely on Gasol as backup C, which is not always a good thing.

Losing Shannon Brown and Odom really hurt the Lakers. Both guys were capable of scoring points, playing good defense, and playing multiple positions. That really hurt their depth badly, and while getting Howard might help a bit, its still probably not enough to get out of the West. And if they somehow do pull that feat off, then they have to face off with Miami, which is not going to favor the Lakers whatsoever.

About the only good thing is that they have another guy to build around for a while, as Kobe enters his decline years. But in terms of right now, the trade likely doesn't help them improve a whole hell of a lot.

stretch

01-03-2012, 01:53 PM

We got Houston in our back pocket, buddy.

And I think Houston mainly just wants Pau Gasol.

Koolaid_Man

01-03-2012, 01:56 PM

That may or may not be true. Like you said, it has to play out.

However, trading Bynum and Artest for Howard still doesn't help the Lakers a whole lot in terms of where they need help most, which is basically everywhere except the big men. They still have an awful rotation of PGs, an awful rotation of SFs, no backup for Kobe, and have to rely on Gasol as backup C, which is not always a good thing.

Losing Shannon Brown and Odom really hurt the Lakers. Both guys were capable of scoring points, playing good defense, and playing multiple positions. That really hurt their depth badly, and while getting Howard might help a bit, its still probably not enough to get out of the West. And if they somehow do pull that feat off, then they have to face off with Miami, which is not going to favor the Lakers whatsoever.

About the only good thing is that they have another guy to build around for a while, as Kobe enters his decline years. But in terms of right now, the trade likely doesn't help them improve a whole hell of a lot.

You couldn't be more wrong...Kobe has never had a suitable back-up..Odom and Brown served their purpose...just look at Odom in Dallas...it was the right call...If we get Howard and keep Gasol we'll show you how more than just the West was won...Gasol with Howard down low with McRoberts and the other white boy..Kobe on the wing is more than enough...

Kobe and Wade will cancel...Lebron will score but the battle will be won down low and Miami won't have enough for both Dwight and Gasol...Gasol will be lights out playing next to Dwight...we have enough ancillary pieces to win the title...

jacobdrj

01-03-2012, 02:04 PM

Obviously you don't realize how badly Artest sucks now...

No, I realize...

stretch

01-03-2012, 02:07 PM

You couldn't be more wrong...Kobe has never had a suitable back-up..Odom and Brown served their purpose...just look at Odom in Dallas...it was the right call...If we get Howard and keep Gasol we'll show you how more than just the West was won...Gasol with Howard down low with McRoberts and the other white boy..Kobe on the wing is more than enough...

Kobe and Wade will cancel...Lebron will score but the battle will be won down low and Miami won't have enough for both Dwight and Gasol...Gasol will be lights out playing next to Dwight...we have enough ancillary pieces to win the title...

lol, okay. Have fun with your bullshit trade rumors and complete lack of depth and talent on the Lakers. I won't say "told you so" when they flame out in the 1st or 2nd round again.

Before trade deadline they will have him.

Which means they will trade away both Bynum and Gasol. Yeah, real brilliant... :rolleyes

Spur_Fanatic

01-03-2012, 05:50 PM

Kool, you have no sources.

NewcastleKEG

01-03-2012, 06:06 PM

Magic would have to instantly change their franchise name to Lakers JV squad considering Shaq, 2009 Finals lay down & then this

Killakobe81

01-03-2012, 06:17 PM

Our SF is serviceable only our backcourt is "horrible" ...

We have no starter at PG and no backup at SG ...

Center/PF/SF I believe are plenty good enough to be a Western contender not sure it's Finals capable but you cant go every year ...I know we have made almost 50% of NBA finals held but we were due for bit of a drought.

Killakobe81

01-03-2012, 06:24 PM

As for a possible trade Im with Jim Buss on this one ... no WAY we give up both.

Also I called the Gasol for Love potential deal (my sources :lol) Said that both Pau/rubio would be open to it. Peter Vescey reported on this over the weekend But not sure I want to lose Gasol's height.

I havent heard anything about Howard for Bynum lately except we will not part with BOTH so we would need a 3rd team to make it happen.

We will see. I dont think this current squad can bring home 17 ...but I actually like this team so far over last year's ... I still hate the Lamar deal though we HAVE to make something happen with that draft picke and TPE for me to feel different. Lamar is sucking for the Mavs but I doubt we get a player close to Lamar with either, but we shall see.