View Full Version : Bowl Payouts by Conference
DesignatedT
01-03-2012, 03:49 PM
I'm on break, have nothing to do, and was bored so here I present the bowl pay outs by conference. The first one I did with the payouts listed on Wikipedia. The second one is with payouts listed on
http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/bowl_games_bowl_schedule.html
SEC : $65.7 m
B1G : $54.95 m
PAC 12 : $54.95 m
ACC : $45.175 m
Big XII : $33 m
Big East : $22.25 m
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SEC : $56.86 m
B1G : $52.59 m
ACC : $46.915 m
PAC 12 : $43.27 m
BIG XII : $33.45 m
Big East : $22.8 m
Either way you look at it SEC is the best and the Big 12 still sucks.
Things to point out :
- Wikipedia claims each team in the Cotton Bowl gets $6.75 m where as the other site claims $3.62.
-Wikipedia claims that the Holiday Bowl payout was $1 m where the other site claims $2.15
-Wikipedia also claims the NCG pays out $21.2 m per each team where the other site pays out $18m
-Wikipedia claims the Rose Bowl pays out $22.3 m and the other site claims $17 m.
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ChumpDumper
01-03-2012, 04:29 PM
Well the championship game skews that pretty severely. Think of the swing if OKState wasn't voted out.
Blake
01-03-2012, 04:48 PM
Well the championship game skews that pretty severely. Think of the swing if OKState wasn't voted out.
More the fact that the b12 only had one team in a bcs bowl this year.
I can't recall off the top of my head the last time that happened.
Horns_Up
01-03-2012, 07:13 PM
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The SEC also has two more teams. If you divide 55/12 comes out to 4.6 mil per team or so.
divide the big 12 by 10 comes out to 3.3 mil or so. When you put it that way 1.3 mil is a drop in the bucket compared to overall conference payouts, where the SEC and Big 12 are very comparable. Your point is negligible at best.
When you throw your 25 Million dollar conference buyout, plus the loan that the academic portion of A&M gave the athletic department that hasn't been paid back, plus the buyout for Sherm, the idiot decisions that Byrne has made are going to take about 30 years in SEC conference bowl payouts to make up. Good luck with that. :rollin
Bill_Brasky
01-04-2012, 01:45 PM
:lmao texags
Pretty desperate anyway you look at it.
stretch
01-04-2012, 01:59 PM
:lmao backfiring on aggie yet again
what a faggot
DesignatedT
01-04-2012, 02:13 PM
backfiring how?
Those are facts.
stretch
01-04-2012, 02:22 PM
lol clueless
lol aggies
lol thinking you guys had a legit shot at a BCS bowl
lol 25-22
ChumpDumper
01-04-2012, 05:19 PM
backfiring how?
Those are facts.Fact is the SEC teams each got a little over a million more than the Big __ teams got.
I guess after a decade or so it'll start paying off for the Aggies. :tu
Fact is the SEC teams each got a little over a million more than the Big __ teams got.
I guess after a decade or so it'll start paying off for the Aggies. :tu
And that doesn't even include the extra coin each Big XII-II school will bank from Aggies' departure fee. :lol
Blake
01-04-2012, 05:58 PM
ftr, schools don't really make much (if any) money off bowl games.
....While appearing in a bowl game is profitable for head coaches and their staffs, the schools generally break even or lose money on the trips - especially to lower- and middle-tier games. It is often the coaches' bonuses, which make up a quarter or more of bowl expenses, that put the schools' bowl ledger in the red.
N.C. State's athletic department lost money in 2008 when the Wolfpack traveled to Birmingham, Ala., to compete in the PapaJohns.com Bowl.
According to records the university provided to the NCAA, the trip to Birmingham cost N.C. State $1,057,580, including coaches' bonuses. The Atlantic Coast Conference, meanwhile, provided N.C. State with $1 million to cover bowl-related expenses - which left the Wolfpack nearly $60,000 short of breaking even for the trip......
Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/12/25/2875772/college-coaches-profit-from-bowl.html#storylink=cpy
DesignatedT
01-04-2012, 06:02 PM
I guess after a decade or so it'll start paying off for the Aggies. :tu
Yeah.... since the only income we'll have coming in is from bowl appearances. Great logic.
ChumpDumper
01-04-2012, 06:18 PM
Yeah.... since the only income we'll have coming in is from bowl appearances. Great logic.You shouldn't have started a thread about bowl payouts then. Great logic.
Give me some facts about how far you guys are in for all the buyouts.
Not guesses. Not Texag lies.
Then think about how much money you passed up when UT offered to go in on a network with you.
:lol
stretch
01-04-2012, 06:21 PM
Yeah.... since the only income we'll have coming in is from bowl appearances. Great logic.
Highly unlikely, as the Aggies probably won't be making many bowl appearances.
stretch
01-04-2012, 06:22 PM
You shouldn't have started a thread about bowl payouts then. Great logic.
Give me some facts about how far you guys are in for all the buyouts.
Not guesses. Not Texag lies.
Then think about how much money you passed up when UT offered to go in on a network with you.
:lol
:rollin
ChumpDumper
01-04-2012, 06:22 PM
Highly unlikely, as the Aggies probably won't be making many bowl appearances.They will be funded vicariously through the other, better teams who do go to bowls.
They'll be fine either way.
stretch
01-04-2012, 06:28 PM
They will be funded vicariously through the other, better teams who do go to bowls.
They'll be fine either way.
Ah, very true, I don't know how I forgot about that. :toast to the Aggies for annually sitting on their asses during bowl season while Bama, Florida, and others make money for them.
I can't recall off the top of my head the last time that happened.
Not surprised.
It was last year.
Blake
01-04-2012, 10:10 PM
Not surprised.
It was last year.
It apparently has happened a lot. Buckeye sticker for you.
Off the top of my head, I can't recall you having any other stickers.
Horns_Up
01-05-2012, 03:16 AM
Yeah.... since the only income we'll have coming in is from bowl appearances. Great logic.
Lets look at payouts in the SEC and what Texas A&M was projected to make in the big 12, shall we:
For the most recent data available SEC schools make about $17.42 million per year in conference payouts.
Texas A&M was expected to make $15 to $20 million (Texas A&M themselves projected roughly $16 million in their budget) in conference payouts this year from the Big 12 right in the same neighborhood. Good luck making your conference buyout, Loan, and sherm's contract up now. Your logic sucks still. The move to the SEC makes no financial sense, especially in the short term. It will likely take a decade to make up for your buyout. In addition, you can expect your revenue to not increase as quickly in the SEC as in the big 12 because you will likely not win as many games, i.e. fewer donors giving money, etc., etc.
Horns_Up
01-05-2012, 03:23 AM
In addition those projections don't include theoretical money A&M would have gotten from NU and CU exit payouts. So... womp for A&M finances. I suppose accounting and financial understanding at the Mays School of Business hasn't improved since this:
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/8487/texas-am-audit-shows-problems-in-controlling-finances
benefactor
01-05-2012, 07:55 AM
The move to the SEC makes no financial sense, especially in the short term.
Aggie butthurt>>>financial ramifications
scottspurs
01-05-2012, 10:25 AM
This thread is full of win. Good morning laugh
DesignatedT
01-05-2012, 04:41 PM
Lets look at payouts in the SEC and what Texas A&M was projected to make in the big 12, shall we:
For the most recent data available SEC schools make about $17.42 million per year in conference payouts.
Texas A&M was expected to make $15 to $20 million (Texas A&M themselves projected roughly $16 million in their budget) in conference payouts this year from the Big 12 right in the same neighborhood. Good luck making your conference buyout, Loan, and sherm's contract up now. Your logic sucks still. The move to the SEC makes no financial sense, especially in the short term. It will likely take a decade to make up for your buyout. In addition, you can expect your revenue to not increase as quickly in the SEC as in the big 12 because you will likely not win as many games, i.e. fewer donors giving money, etc., etc.
Fewer donors giving money? Donors are lining up at the door giving money to A&M right now with the move to the SEC. One of the reasons we were able to get rid of Sherman, start our "Athletic Village" and start our renovations to Kyle Field next year. Lol fewer donors giving money.
The SEC will soon revamp there TV deals and will undoubtedly have the highest payout among BCS conferences once that is done. Saying the move makes no financial sense to A&M is beyond retarded.
A decade to make up for our buyout? Instead of the big12 paying us our 15 mil this season they will keep that money and all is done. There will be no "paying off the buyout" year by year.
yavozerb
01-05-2012, 04:50 PM
Fewer donors giving money? Donors are lining up at the door giving money to Sherman right now with the move to the SEC. One of the reasons we were able to get rid of Sherman, start our "Athletic Village" and start our renovations to Kyle Field next year. Lol fewer donors giving money.
The SEC will soon revamp there TV deals and will undoubtedly have the highest payout among BCS conferences once that is done. Saying the move makes no financial sense to A&M is beyond retarded.
A decade to make up for our buyout? Instead of the big12 paying us our 15 mil this season they will keep that money and all is done. There will be no "paying off the buyout" year by year.
fixed
DesignatedT
01-05-2012, 05:10 PM
fixed
We just started a 25 million dollar renovation of our athletic facilities. All coming from Donors.
Blake
01-05-2012, 05:59 PM
We just started a 25 million dollar renovation of our athletic facilities. All coming from Donors.
Why would it need to all come from Donors?
You guys are in the $EC!
Horns_Up
01-05-2012, 10:55 PM
Fewer donors giving money? Donors are lining up at the door giving money to A&M right now with the move to the SEC. One of the reasons we were able to get rid of Sherman, start our "Athletic Village" and start our renovations to Kyle Field next year. Lol fewer donors giving money.
Lets see them keep giving after 3 and 4 win seasons.
The SEC will soon revamp there TV deals and will undoubtedly have the highest payout among BCS conferences once that is done. Saying the move makes no financial sense to A&M is beyond retarded.
Really? You are going to be more than 25 Mil in the hole from the switch most likely. Unless you are making substantially more money soon, it really doesn't. The Big 12 has always been in the same neighborhood as the SEC in payouts, in fact currently the Pac-12 and Big 10 make more than the SEC. You are foolish if you think the SEC is just money central. Yes you might make more in the SEC, but you make the most by winning and winning big, which A&M will not do in the SEC. The move makes no sense. Also the SEC traditionally does not have the largest payouts of BCS conferences, the Big 10 does. What metropolises are in the SEC footprint? Atlanta? sweet. Montgomery? Birmingham? Baton Rouge? Columbia? Charleston? Big 10: Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, Indianapolis, Cleveland, Cincinatti, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh just to name a few. If you think that the SEC will ever make more than the Big 10 as a conference or substantially more you are stupid.
A decade to make up for our buyout? Instead of the big12 paying us our 15 mil this season they will keep that money and all is done. There will be no "paying off the buyout" year by year.
Actually that isn't how the buyout works, at least since the league amended the bylaws following NU and CU's exit. Its the last two years of revenue. So you won't get your roughly 17 million this year, and you owe the league roughly 15.8 million from last year. You will likely cut a deal with the league because you can't afford it, because your athletic department is still in the red from past liabilities. Please stop. You are showing your ignorance.
I also meant paying off in terms of making up the revenue you lost due to not getting this years. But, please continue like you actually know something.
Horns_Up
01-05-2012, 11:01 PM
And actually according to this:
"Conference bylaws call for an exit-fee payment of 90 percent of what a school would have received in two years of revenue. The Aggies received $11 million from the Big 12 for 2010-11, and they were set to make $20 million for the upcoming academic year, the same as Texas and Oklahoma."
You are actually projected, at least until the tv deals are revamped, projected to lose money in the SEC about 2.5 million per year. In addition, like I said, it is two years of revenue. Please stop, this is too much fun.
http://www.statesman.com/sports/aggies/texas-a-m-continues-on-path-toward-big-1800857.html
DesignatedT
01-06-2012, 12:26 AM
Instead of responding to all of that retarded bullshit you just posted I will tell you this.
A&M will not pay a dime over 15 million in exit fees TOTAL.
Horns_Up
01-06-2012, 01:03 AM
Instead of responding to all of that retarded bullshit you just posted I will tell you this.
A&M will not pay a dime over 15 million in exit fees TOTAL.
Really? You are contractually obligated to pay at least 90% of $31 million and you think you are getting off at $15 million? And this children is why Texas has a t-10 law school and A&M does not. You are an idiot and, if you haven't noticed this entire thread is laughing at you. Joe Jamail couldn't get you out for less than 20 million. A&M agreed to the new bylaws and in no way has the Big 12 broken its fiduciary duty. And while they won't pay the full 30 million they owe, they aren't going to pay less than half of what they owe. In addition the conference could simply withhold this years revenue (which was roughly Nebraska's penalty), which should total nearly 20 million.
Also you have used the word retarded twice, using it just shows your ignorance. Its offensive to plenty of people including me. Find a better word and expand your vocabulary.
DesignatedT
01-06-2012, 02:10 AM
Nebraska and Colorado both paid approximately 8 million to exit the big12. I'll pretty much double that and say that is what A&M will pay. (close to 15 mil)
You keep rambling on with your made up numbers about exit fees and such. You continue to look retarded.
Entire thread laughing? Lol who? A bunch of Texas fans?... The numbers I am giving are a quick google search away from confirming it yourself. Not completely made up with no merit. I have no idea where you are getting your facts but you are way off base my friend. LOL at A&M paying 30 million to exit the big12.
It will cost Nebraska $9.25 million to withdraw from the Big 12 to head to the Big Ten.
Cash-strapped Colorado will pay $6.86 million to head to the Pac-10.
lol getting shit on.
Horns_Up
01-06-2012, 07:38 PM
lol getting shit on.
You realize the bylaws have been amended since then right? Nebraska's full buyout was 11-12 million. They paid roughly 80% of that. Your full buyout is 28-29 Million. 80% of that is about 24-25 million. A&M agreed to the new bylaws, and in no way has the big 12 broken its fiduciary duty. So comparing A&M's buyout to NU's is foolish at best. Different contract, situation and circumstances.
DesignatedT
01-06-2012, 07:44 PM
lol A&M paying 28-29 million to leave the big12. Not happening.
It's probably going to be around 15 million.
Cant_Be_Faded
01-06-2012, 09:40 PM
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So did or didn't Auburn actually have to pay money when they won the championship?
Did or didn't they?
lol poor sec schools
To say that the SEC will not be hugely beneficial financially for the Aggies is just stupid.
Our buyout will not be $25MM.
Blake
01-08-2012, 10:31 PM
To say that the SEC will not be hugely beneficial financially for the Aggies is just stupid.
how much more than by staying in the Big 12?
how much more than by staying in the Big 12?
We'll see soon.
Even if it was $1 more, it would be a wise financial decision.
Blake
01-08-2012, 11:53 PM
Even if it was $1 more, it would be a wise financial decision.
Not if it means getting ass whipped on a weekly basis by the SEC bosses.
DesignatedT
02-28-2012, 05:52 PM
You realize the bylaws have been amended since then right? Nebraska's full buyout was 11-12 million. They paid roughly 80% of that. Your full buyout is 28-29 Million. 80% of that is about 24-25 million. A&M agreed to the new bylaws, and in no way has the big 12 broken its fiduciary duty. So comparing A&M's buyout to NU's is foolish at best. Different contract, situation and circumstances.
Really? You are contractually obligated to pay at least 90% of $31 million and you think you are getting off at $15 million? And this children is why Texas has a t-10 law school and A&M does not. You are an idiot and, if you haven't noticed this entire thread is laughing at you. Joe Jamail couldn't get you out for less than 20 million. A&M agreed to the new bylaws and in no way has the Big 12 broken its fiduciary duty. And while they won't pay the full 30 million they owe, they aren't going to pay less than half of what they owe. In addition the conference could simply withhold this years revenue (which was roughly Nebraska's penalty), which should total nearly 20 million.
Really? You are going to be more than 25 Mil in the hole from the switch most likely. Unless you are making substantially more money soon, it really doesn't. The Big 12 has always been in the same neighborhood as the SEC in payouts, in fact currently the Pac-12 and Big 10 make more than the SEC. You are foolish if you think the SEC is just money central. Yes you might make more in the SEC, but you make the most by winning and winning big, which A&M will not do in the SEC. The move makes no sense. Also the SEC traditionally does not have the largest payouts of BCS conferences, the Big 10 does. What metropolises are in the SEC footprint? Atlanta? sweet. Montgomery? Birmingham? Baton Rouge? Columbia? Charleston? Big 10: Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, Indianapolis, Cleveland, Cincinatti, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh just to name a few. If you think that the SEC will ever make more than the Big 10 as a conference or substantially more you are stupid.
Actually that isn't how the buyout works, at least since the league amended the bylaws following NU and CU's exit. Its the last two years of revenue. So you won't get your roughly 17 million this year, and you owe the league roughly 15.8 million from last year. You will likely cut a deal with the league because you can't afford it, because your athletic department is still in the red from past liabilities. Please stop. You are showing your ignorance.
I also meant paying off in terms of making up the revenue you lost due to not getting this years. But, please continue like you actually know something.
In addition those projections don't include theoretical money A&M would have gotten from NU and CU exit payouts. So... womp for A&M finances. I suppose accounting and financial understanding at the Mays School of Business hasn't improved since this:
When you throw your 25 Million dollar conference buyout, plus the loan that the academic portion of A&M gave the athletic department that hasn't been paid back, plus the buyout for Sherm, the idiot decisions that Byrne has made are going to take about 30 years in SEC conference bowl payouts to make up. Good luck with that. :rollin
:lmao :lmao :lmao
"A&M said the Big 12 buyout will be $9.31 million, almost exactly the same as Nebraska’s $9.255 million last year on its way to the Big Ten. The Big 12 on Tuesday announced A&M’s buyout as $12.41 million, but an A&M official said the actual number is $9.31 million, once items like direct payments from the NCAA, bowl payouts, conference office expenses and officiating reimbursements are factored in."
The Conference will withhold an estimated $12,410,000 from Texas A&M's projected distribution for fiscal year 2012. However, the parties agreed that A&M will receive a portion of the benefit received by the Big 12 Conference from the signing of its television contract with Fox Sports, scheduled to commence July 1, 2012, and certain other concessions.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205388761&DB_OEM_ID=10410
Where is this fucktard at?
lol at every dumbfuck longhorn getting this shit wrong
tlongII
02-28-2012, 08:57 PM
:lol. Serious pwnage right there!
Horns_Up
03-06-2012, 03:24 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao
"A&M said the Big 12 buyout will be $9.31 million, almost exactly the same as Nebraska’s $9.255 million last year on its way to the Big Ten. The Big 12 on Tuesday announced A&M’s buyout as $12.41 million, but an A&M official said the actual number is $9.31 million, once items like direct payments from the NCAA, bowl payouts, conference office expenses and officiating reimbursements are factored in."
The Conference will withhold an estimated $12,410,000 from Texas A&M's projected distribution for fiscal year 2012. However, the parties agreed that A&M will receive a portion of the benefit received by the Big 12 Conference from the signing of its television contract with Fox Sports, scheduled to commence July 1, 2012, and certain other concessions.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205388761&DB_OEM_ID=10410
Where is this fucktard at?
Right here. The big 12 pussied up on this one. A&M was contractually obligated for 28 million. The fact that they negotiated it down is downright amazing. Congratulations to A&M for having some damn good negotiators. Now then, at least I can do math, unlike your brilliant ass. Fuck off now.
Right here. The big 12 pussied up on this one. A&M was contractually obligated for 28 million. The fact that they negotiated it down is downright amazing. Congratulations to A&M for having some damn good negotiators. Now then, at least I can do math, unlike your brilliant ass. Fuck off now.
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