silverblk mystix
01-04-2012, 01:38 PM
Everyone seems to think this is bad luck, spurs hopes crushed,etc...
#1) This season should have never even been played...the players really caved into the owners/Stern B.S....and in return Stern & co. made up a schedule that will completely put ALL the players at high risk for injury.
#2) EVERY team is going to have major injuries...young teams, old teams, ....
every team...
#3) Hate to say it ...but Manu's injury won't even be the last major injury the Spurs will suffer...so get used to this....
#4) The GOOD NEWS? Here it is;
Every team has the same chance of winning a title this year...it comes down to who is the luckiest and who can roll with the punches and be there at the end...actually this is true every year..but this season it will seem magnified because of this horrendous 66 game bullshit season....believe me ...when other teams "stars" go down...like dominoes....the Spurs won't seem any worse...
Thoughts?
timvp
01-04-2012, 01:45 PM
1) Both the owners and players wanted the most games possible. The owners get to keep more of the TV revenue, while the players get to keep a larger prorated amount of their original contracts.
2 and 3) The 1999 Spurs, which played in an even more condensed season and was an older team, suffered no major injury. No player in the rotation missed more than three games.
4) There are only about six teams that can win a championship. The playoffs will be basically the same as every other season.
silverblk mystix
01-04-2012, 01:49 PM
1) Both the owners and players wanted the most games possible. The owners get to keep more of the TV revenue, while the players get to keep a larger prorated amount of their original contracts.
2 and 3) The 1999 Spurs, which played in an even more condensed season and was an older team, suffered no major injury. No player in the rotation missed more than three games.
4) There are only about six teams that can win a championship. The playoffs will be basically the same as every other season.
Good points but I don't remember ever seeing back-to-back-to back games and 4 or 5 games a week-all season long.
It will remain to be seen but I, for one, will not be the least bit surprised to see more injuries than ever-certainly won't be surprised if there are more injuries than in a full 82 game season.
Just watch.
FromWayDowntown
01-04-2012, 02:11 PM
The Spurs played six games in the first eight days of that season. Four games in five nights was commonplace. And they had a pair of back-to-back-to-back sets within a couple weeks of each other.
This schedule looks like a walk in the park compared to the '99 schedule.
Absolutely.
That schedule was 13 weeks long (season started on a Friday and ended on a Wednesday). The Spurs played 4 games or more in 10 of the 13 weeks; they played 5 games in the first 7 days (not the first 8). Of the 50 games, there were 15 back-to-backs (including the 2 back-to-back-to-backs, which were March 25-27 and April 12-14) and 6 sets of 4-in-5s.
Fireball
01-04-2012, 02:44 PM
....I'm not the kinda' guy that would say,"I told you so!"....:lol
yeah ... and last night I thought Courtney Lee was done as well, but it was only a calf strain ...
therealtruth
01-04-2012, 05:53 PM
True, and AI played over 40 mpg for just about his whole career. Today's players are made of glass compared to the old guys.
I've never understood Pop's fear to play players over 30 minutes a game. Jordan and Pippen averaged at least 37+ min a game and still three-peated. Since Pop tried to aggressively reduce minutes in the RS they haven't won once.
TDomination
01-04-2012, 06:21 PM
The Spurs played six games in the first eight days of that season. Four games in five nights was commonplace. And they had a pair of back-to-back-to-back sets within a couple weeks of each other.
This schedule looks like a walk in the park compared to the '99 schedule.
Your right Timvp, brutal schedule in 1999.
11 sets of back to backs
2 back to backs to backs
and even a back to back in the playoffs against the Lakers
2 and 3) The 1999 Spurs, which played in an even more condensed season and was an older team, suffered no major injury. No player in the rotation missed more than three games.
We were a little older in 1999 between our two rosters in the starting lineup.
Avery Johnson (33 yrs old)
Mario Elie (35 yrs old)
Sean Elliott (31 yrs old)
Tim Duncan (22 yrs old)
David Robinson (33 yrs old)
Starting lineup AVG age = 30.8 yrs old
Tony Parker (29 yrs old)
Manu Ginobili (34 yrs old)
Richard Jefferson (31 yrs old)
Tim Duncan (35 yrs old)
Dejuan Blair (22 yrs old)
Starting Lineup AVG age = 30.2 yrs old
Biggest difference I see is that we have more size in 1999 but we have more athleticism in 2012.
One thing I will mention is that the rules of 1999 allowed perimeter defenders to be more physical, helping a guy like Elie be a great defender. But ever since the rules changed, speed and quick feet is the only thing that wins. I don't know how good the 1999 lineup would be in todays NBA.
Anyways, here is the schedule of 1999 season, bolded are the back to backs.
1 Fri, Feb 5, 1999 Sacramento Kings
2 Sat, Feb 6, 1999 Minnesota Timberwolves
3 Mon, Feb 8, 1999 Los Angeles Lakers
4 Tue, Feb 9, 1999 @ Minnesota Timberwolves
5 Thu, Feb 11, 1999 @ Cleveland Cavaliers
6 Fri, Feb 12, 1999 @ Philadelphia 76ers
7 Sun, Feb 14, 1999 @ Chicago Bulls
8 Wed, Feb 17, 1999 Phoenix Suns
9 Fri, Feb 19, 1999 @ Los Angeles Lakers
10 Sun, Feb 21, 1999 Detroit Pistons
11 Mon, Feb 22, 1999 @ Minnesota Timberwolves
12 Wed, Feb 24, 1999 Seattle SuperSonics
13 Fri, Feb 26, 1999 @ Seattle SuperSonics
14 Sun, Feb 28, 1999 Utah Jazz
15 Tue, Mar 2, 1999 @ Houston Rockets
16 Thu, Mar 4, 1999 @ Dallas Mavericks
17 Sat, Mar 6, 1999 Los Angeles Clippers
18 Sun, Mar 7, 1999 @ Denver Nuggets
19 Wed, Mar 10, 1999 Orlando Magic
20 Fri, Mar 12, 1999 @ Phoenix Suns
21 Sat, Mar 13, 1999 Denver Nuggets
22 Tue, Mar 16, 1999 @ Sacramento Kings
23 Wed, Mar 17, 1999 @ Golden State Warriors
24 Fri, Mar 19, 1999 @ Portland Trail Blazers
25 Sat, Mar 20, 1999 @ Vancouver Grizzlies
26 Tue, Mar 23, 1999 Denver Nuggets
27 Thu, Mar 25, 1999 @ Denver Nuggets
28 Fri, Mar 26, 1999 Toronto Raptors
29 Sat, Mar 27, 1999 Dallas Mavericks
30 Tue, Mar 30, 1999 Seattle SuperSonics
31 Thu, Apr 1, 1999 Vancouver Grizzlies
32 Sat, Apr 3, 1999 Los Angeles Clippers
33 Mon, Apr 5, 1999 Golden State Warriors
34 Thu, Apr 8, 1999 @ Houston Rockets
35 Sat, Apr 10, 1999 @ Phoenix Suns
36 Mon, Apr 12, 1999 Phoenix Suns
37 Tue, Apr 13, 1999 @ Dallas Mavericks
38 Wed, Apr 14, 1999 Minnesota Timberwolves
39 Fri, Apr 16, 1999 Portland Trail Blazers
40 Sun, Apr 18, 1999 Houston Rockets
41 Tue, Apr 20, 1999 @ Utah Jazz
42 Thu, Apr 22, 1999 Dallas Mavericks
43 Sat, Apr 24, 1999 Los Angeles Lakers
44 Mon, Apr 26, 1999 @ Los Angeles Clippers
45 Tue, Apr 27, 1999 @ Sacramento Kings
46 Thu, Apr 29, 1999 @ Vancouver Grizzlies
47 Sat, May 1, 1999 Portland Trail Blazers
48 Sun, May 2, 1999 Utah Jazz
49 Tue, May 4, 1999 @ Portland Trail Blazers
50 Wed, May 5, 1999 @ Golden State Warriors
PLAYOFFS
1 Sun, May 9, 1999 Minnesota Timberwolves
2 Tue, May 11, 1999 Minnesota Timberwolves
3 Thu, May 13, 1999 @ Minnesota Timberwolves
4 Sat, May 15, 1999 @ Minnesota Timberwolves
5 Mon, May 17, 1999 Los Angeles Lakers
6 Wed, May 19, 1999 Los Angeles Lakers
7 Sat, May 22, 1999 @ Los Angeles Lakers
8 Sun, May 23, 1999 @ Los Angeles Lakers
9 Sat, May 29, 1999 Portland Trail Blazers
10 Mon, May 31, 1999 Portland Trail Blazers
11 Fri, Jun 4, 1999 @ Portland Trail Blazers
12 Sun, Jun 6, 1999 @ Portland Trail Blazers
13 Wed, Jun 16, 1999 New York Knicks
14 Fri, Jun 18, 1999 New York Knicks
15 Mon, Jun 21, 1999 @ New York Knicks
16 Wed, Jun 23, 1999 @ New York Knicks
17 Fri, Jun 25, 1999 @ New York Knicks
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