I'm tired of Tony Parker

[ginobili fan]

Where has the brilliant player he supposed to be gone ?
Where's Chip?
Where's finishing at will in the paint?
Where're 55 points in a single game?
Where's taking J's and stretching the D?
Where're successful penetrations ?
Where're successful fastbreaks ?
Where're dishing out correctly on fast break?
Has he ever done an assist on fastbreak I mean real PG assist to make it easier on FB, not soft ass rookie playmaking.
Where's Tony Parker?
come on 29, you should be taking over right now and you're playing your worst BBall it's been 2 years...
I'd rather see the young TP during 2003 campaign...
Depressing

[DMC]

lol "Im tired of Tony Parker" -Ginobili fan


Unheard of

[ginobili fan]

Come on forget about the "ginobili fan" it's just a profil name and ask yourself .
Now all of this takes sense.
Tp's depressing to watch I miss the sucking NVE.

[ginobili fan]

I miss Chris Quinn

[ginobili fan]

F*** Ellis and Curry destroyying us...

[ginobili fan]

tear drop

[ginobili fan]

Really TJ Ford 'not that bad at all

[ginobili fan]

Where are the Spurs...

[ginobili fan]

I am a moron

[ginobili fan]

shut up you too

[ginobili fan]

Thank you Manu

[Spursfan092120]

I'm tired of James Anderson...make a fucking open jumpshot already...shit.

[ginobili fan]

Curry destroying Tp

[ginobili fan]

What a nice D TP keep it like that moron

[sasffl]

You should watch Argentina instead of Spurs

[ginobili fan]

What!!!!!!!
I'm tired of kwame brown making his best post move of his life against Tim what the fuck

[ginobili fan]

you should watch your ass

[ginobili fan]

I'm tired of TP double teamed and already TO classic

[jason1301]

Really when was the last time Tony outplayed anyone?

[ginobili fan]

Ok now it's official TP forgot how to make layups

[ginobili fan]

39 % fg wtf tp

[ginobili fan]

tonight 3/9 again

[ginobili fan]

shame...

[ginobili fan]

now 0/2 FT better and better...

[ginobili fan]

Wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff are you crazy ???????????

[ginobili fan]

Steve Nash 54 years old still 11 and 8

[ginobili fan]

53-45 warriors great

[stephen jackson]

well you lasted longer than me.

[Magua]

Tbh tony is just completely overmatched here, not his fault.

[dbestpro]

Tony has got to give up the ball and start trusting his teammates. There is no future with Tony trying to do it all. Either they will be good enough or they won't, but they have to at least be given the chance to try.

[ginobili fan]

It's not his fault ????????????
it's not his fault when he misses easy lyups?
it's not his fault when he can't convert 2 on 1 FB?
it's not his fault he's shhoting 39% this season?
it's not his fault and it'll never be because of the others ...
look vs Memphis it wasn't his fault Conley's schooling him.

[ginobili fan]

Tony has got to give up the ball and start trusting his teammates. There is no future with Tony trying to do it all. Either they will be good enough or they won't, but they have to at least be given the chance to try.

I don't ask him to be superman he doesn't have the talent anyway.
I just ask him to not play like a moron.

[lefty]

No surprise here

[Brazil]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

ginobili fan meltdown !!! you took some prozac ? maybe he is drunk :lmao

[TDMVPDPOY]

tp = pathetic scrub posting up meaningless stats

i dont care if he goes lights out on offense, when the opposing pg puts up career games or season avgs against him...(no bench or backup pg to bail his out as usual)

every year we hear about hiim improving his jumpshot....lol

tp being tp when he forces the offense and runs into the defense throwing up circus shot, waiting for the ref to bail hiim out, only to stand there and argue with the ref when the other team scores on the other end...

without ginoboli on the court, he has his chance to ball hog anytime he wants, with ginoboli on the court he barely passes it to him....

with the shenanigans from last season, why is this clown still on the team...

[Brazil]

with ginoboli on the court he barely passes it to him....

:lmao CoM is back

[TDMVPDPOY]

bench gets the team back into the game, only for the scrub to blow it up

[Sense]

So this guy made a thread for post count?

[TDMVPDPOY]

So this guy made a thread for post count?

makes sense to me :D

[ggoose25]

where has the brilliant player he supposed to be gone ?
Where's chip?
Where's finishing at will in the paint?
Where're 55 points in a single game?
Where's taking j's and stretching the d?
Where're successful penetrations ?
Where're successful fastbreaks ?
Where're dishing out correctly on fast break?
Has he ever done an assist on fastbreak i mean real pg assist to make it easier on fb, not soft ass rookie playmaking.
Where's tony parker?
Come on 29, you should be taking over right now and you're playing your worst bball it's been 2 years...
I'd rather see the young tp during 2003 campaign...
Depressing
+1

[lefty]

http://gifsoup.com/view3/3215979/mike-conley-spurs-o.gif

[jason1301]

tp = pathetic scrub posting up meaningless stats

i dont care if he goes lights out on offense, when the opposing pg puts up career games or season avgs against him...(no bench or backup pg to bail his out as usual)

every year we hear about hiim improving his jumpshot....lol

tp being tp when he forces the offense and runs into the defense throwing up circus shot, waiting for the ref to bail hiim out, only to stand there and argue with the ref when the other team scores on the other end...

without ginoboli on the court, he has his chance to ball hog anytime he wants, with ginoboli on the court he barely passes it to him....

with the shenanigans from last season, why is this clown still on the team...

+1

TP is a loser.

[4>0rings]

Tony Parker = Tony Romo

Does enough to get paid, doesn't care, no fire to play the sport but has talent.

[FkLA]

Tony Parker = Tony Romo

Does enough to get paid, doesn't care, no fire to play the sport but has talent.

But hes a three time nba champion, all-star, and has a finals mvp !!

[TDMVPDPOY]

for all the parker fans, this jumpshot you guys have been talkin about each fkn summer....where is it?

[TDMVPDPOY]

But hes a three time nba champion, all-star, and has a finals mvp !!

speedy claxton says hi, daniel gibson says hello

[lefty]

Anybody would have pwned Gibson in the Finals

Except Fisher of course

[FkLA]

being sarcastic nlggas, i hate parker 100 times as much as both of u combined tbh

[jason1301]

glad to see him ON THE BENCH! at least now we have a chance winning this game...

[jason1301]

uops TP back in the game...

[Spurminator]

You're all idiots.

[jhuan16]

lol at this thread.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I hate Tony Parker most of the time too, but he's one of my best friends right now.

[Spursfan092120]

You're all idiots.

[024]

You're all idiots.
they're just GNSF

[Spursfan092120]

they're just GNSF

overexcited, unintelligent

[MannyIsGod]

You're all idiots.

[Drewlius]

obvious troll is obvious

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol dude is still a scrub

after allowin monta and curry get there way with his ass,

only to be bail out by tj and green to get us back into the game, he decides to show up in the final quarter...where was he the first 3 quarters...

[Brazil]

TP shitting all over TDMVPDPOY in the fourth

[FkLA]

Parker played like shit tonight. Has played like shit all season long. Those baskets at the end of the game doesnt change that.

[z0sa]

decent troll bait

[TDMVPDPOY]

TP shitting all over TDMVPDPOY in the fourth

he wouldnt be shittin shit if tj and green didnt bail his ass, whom u tryin to steal the credit from for the win

[Brazil]

Parker played like shit tonight. Has played like shit all season long. Those baskets at the end of the game doesnt change that.

Oh please you're so mean to my beloved Tony Parker :cry

dont say bad things about him ure hurting my feeling... he is my hero

[Spurminator]

Parker played like shit tonight. Has played like shit all season long. Those baskets at the end of the game doesnt change that.

That's a fine observation. Reasonable people would stop at that.

Stupid people would call into question his entire career after a poor first couple of weeks of a season.

[TDMVPDPOY]

decent troll bait

this thread aint trolling, justs pointing out the negatives in his game that is a continuation of frustrations from a viewers pov...

[Kori Ellis]

It's no secret Tony has played horrible so far this year, but that doesn't make him a "scrub," etc like the haters believe.

Hopefully the fourth quarter of this game will help him get his season on track. Because whether you hate him or not, the Spurs need him to play well to succeed.

[8FOR!3]

Parker sucked tonight, but he stepped up when it mattered. If he can get his jumper going like at the end of the game, he's still a top PG in this league.

[Brazil]

he wouldnt be shittin shit if tj and green didnt bail his ass, whom u tryin to steal the credit from for the win



Sure Im trying to steal credit from Green and TJ for the win

I have no life and I'm a freaking homer that has nothing better to do than stealing credit from Green for a win against GSW :lol

:cry TP ruined my hate party :cry :lmao

[Manu-of-steel]

It's no secret Tony has played horrible so far this year, but that doesn't make him a "scrub," etc like the haters believe.

Hopefully the fourth quarter of this game will help him get his season on track. Because whether you hate him or not, the Spurs need him to play well to succeed.

Agree to that. We need the fearless but efficient TP now.

[Brazil]

That's a fine observation. Reasonable people would stop at that.

Stupid people would call into question his entire career after a poor first couple of weeks of a season.

/thread

[justinandimcool]

Yeah he sucked with his 21 pts and 8 assists. That's ~40 points because of him. And 8 in the clutch. Sure he looked lethargic in the first half, but the great ones realize there are 4 quarters not 2.

haters to the left.

[ElNono]

The best thing Tony did since last year was divorce Eva!!!! :dramaquee

[ElNono]

Yeah he sucked with his 21 pts and 8 assists. That's ~40 points because of him. And 8 in the clutch. Sure he looked lethargic in the first half, but the great ones realize there are 4 quarters not 2.

haters to the left.

Here's boxscore insider to tell it like it is...

[my2sons]

seems tony did a nice job of nailing the coffin on gs...haters...Manu is my fav spur,doesn't mean tony is hatable..

[ElNono]

In THIS game, Tony was mediocre at best until the last 5 mins...

[FkLA]

Sure Im trying to steal credit from Green and TJ for the win

I have no life and I'm a freaking homer that has nothing better to do than stealing credit from Green for a win against GSW :lol

:cry TP ruined my hate party :cry :lmao

Acting like youre not the biggest Parker homer on ST :lol

[ElNono]

I want Tony to do well, BTW... I want the Spurs to win... hating has nothing to do with it

[TDMVPDPOY]

every year ginoboli goes down, perfect opportunity for parker not to play in his shadow...but dude never takes the full advantage

tonight was one of those nights he couldve shown his worth, too bad he was on the end of curry and ellis hot streak nights, him gettin outscored for 3 quarters and doing shit all hurt him more then whatever he does in the 4th...without the bailout, he wouldnt have that opportunity to shine for the win...

[ducks]

39 % fg wtf tp

tp is making his jumpshots thouh and free throw % 94

[4>0rings]

Tony Parker = Tony Romo

Does enough to get paid, doesn't care, no fire to play the sport but has talent.
That's about right tonight...

[ducks]

every year ginoboli goes down, perfect opportunity for parker not to play in his shadow...but dude never takes the full advantage

tonight was one of those nights he couldve shown his worth, too bad he was on the end of curry and ellis hot streak nights, him gettin outscored for 3 quarters and doing shit all hurt him more then whatever he does in the 4th...without the bailout, he wouldnt have that opportunity to shine for the win...

tp killed gs with warrios

ellis and curry when on fire are unstoppable

[TDMVPDPOY]

Yeah he sucked with his 21 pts and 8 assists. That's ~40 points because of him. And 8 in the clutch. Sure he looked lethargic in the first half, but the great ones realize there are 4 quarters not 2.

haters to the left.

remove the stats he got in the final quarter, or his production that quarter, you can tell the team was clearly gettin outplayed... for the first 2 quarters gettin toyed around, 3rd quarter barely hanging with them even with ellis only toying our backcourt....tj and green comes in changes the momentum of the game with the energy, gsw gased out and fire taken out...parker fuels the rage with more fire....

still wasnt happy with his game for the first 3 quarters....clearly very frustration watchin him play like that, just wish he had more consistency or provide something else when his offensive game isnt rolling...at least he should keep his opponent in check then allowing them have a career year against him

[Brazil]

Acting like youre not the biggest Parker homer on ST :lol

:cry I'm not a homer :cry
leave me alone
youre so mean

[Imp23]

TP has never been the problem. TP gets dissed when he gets everyone involved and when he goes and gets his. He's been playing good all yr. They need to run TJ and TP more for a good change of pace.

[Brazil]

Seriously though TP is sucking right now which is quite weird because he had a great summer with France NT and l'ASVEL. As DPG mentioned he is shooting 40% or less when his career average is around 50% thats a huge gap even if it's only 6 games. He is still giving a good amount of assists but he is not finishing at the rim anymore and defensively he is struggling, he is late, doesn't fight a lot around the screens... all are signs that athletically he is not at expected level. So whether he is washed up and it will take a little bit of time for him to adapt if he can whether he is temporally out of shape.

I personally don't question his motivation, a guy demotivated wouldn't have responded positively well to a coach yelling at him IMO.

[ginobili fan]

Panic Button

[jag]

I don't care what button timvp pushes, Tony will be just fine. He's 29 and his legs should have at least 2 more seasons in them.

[jermaine]

I love to see Jefferson run the floor with parker, an instead of him throwing s ally-hoop he throws a bounce pass. Or tries to take it himself. I know you'll have seen it.

[dbestpro]

It does not matter who is playing. We do better when we share the ball.

[SA210]

We need to recruit Eva back to San Antonio for him so he can play like he used to. :lol

[Cane]

Jose Calderon >>> Tony Parker

Hopefully Parker can turn things around, its still early in a hectic schedule...but Parker looks like a shell of his former self out there. Parker's significant decline has been noticeable for the past two seasons but in this small sample size it really shows. In a league thats loaded with length and athletic guards, Parker looks like he's lost a few steps. His shooting form, scoring ability, and even leadership/body language just looks :depressed

If Buford and the Spurs really want to improve the frontcourt, Parker's one of the few assets the Spurs got left...and it'd be worth trading him away if he can't turn on the legs anymore. Still early in the season though :flag:

[Hemotivo]

I miss the sucking NVE.

please
:rolleyes

[Dex]

Something is up. I don't think Tony has just gotten old, because dropoffs like that usually don't happen so suddenly. He was fine towards the end of last season, and aside from a couple bad games, played decent in the playoffs (even if he was outplayed by Mike fucking Conley). I suspect it's either a nagging injury, lack of being in game shape (which isn't being helped by the condensed schedule and no chance to properly recover), or it's just a mental thing and he needs to get his head straight.

I expect the real Parker to show up at some point. I just hope it's sooner rather than later.

[Cane]

Something is up. I don't think Tony has just gotten old, because dropoffs like that usually don't happen so suddenly. He was fine towards the end of last season, and aside from a couple bad games, played decent in the playoffs (even if he was outplayed by Mike fucking Conley). I suspect it's either a nagging injury, lack of being in game shape (which isn't being helped by the condensed schedule and no chance to properly recover), or it's just a mental thing and he needs to get his head straight.

I expect the real Parker to show up at some point. I just hope it's sooner rather than later.

I disagree. In this league, players can age seemingly overnight. And Parker's an example of that kind of player since he's a high-mileage small guard that depends on his athleticism and ability to score in the paint. Also disagreed about how Parker played "decent" in the playoffs and a couple of games really matters in one round, he turned the ball over like crazy and failed to make his impact and really hurt the Spurs imo. Not saying they were going to win the series, but Parker's decline was noticeable especially compared to his vintage days, and he's supposedly healthy and the youngest of the Big 3 too

But I agree about hoping Parker can return to his better days. Parker without his speed and scoring ability is a very average player

[spurs10]

Something is up. I don't think Tony has just gotten old, because dropoffs like that usually don't happen so suddenly. He was fine towards the end of last season, and aside from a couple bad games, played decent in the playoffs (even if he was outplayed by Mike fucking Conley). I suspect it's either a nagging injury, lack of being in game shape (which isn't being helped by the condensed schedule and no chance to properly recover), or it's just a mental thing and he needs to get his head straight.

I expect the real Parker to show up at some point. I just hope it's sooner rather than later.
I'm leanin' this way...and too "hope it's sooner than later."

[cheguevara]

He looks like shit out there.

[Dex]

I disagree. In this league, players can age seemingly overnight. And Parker's an example of that kind of player since he's a high-mileage small guard that depends on his athleticism and ability to score in the paint. Also disagreed about how Parker played "decent" in the playoffs and a couple of games really matters in one round, he turned the ball over like crazy and failed to make his impact and really hurt the Spurs imo. Not saying they were going to win the series, but Parker's decline was noticeable especially compared to his vintage days, and he's supposedly healthy and the youngest of the Big 3 too

But I agree about hoping Parker can return to his better days. Parker without his speed and scoring ability is a very average player

Parker against the Griz:

Game - Points - Assists - Turnovers - FG%
1 - 20 - 5 - 2 - 25%
2 - 12 - 8 - 2 - 43%
3 - 16 - 5 - 6 - 36%
4 - 23 - 1 - 7 - 75%
5 - 24 - 9 - 1 - 45%
6 - 24 - 4 - 2 - 59%

The two games bolded seem to be the only two games anyone remembers Parker playing in the playoffs. Yes, 6-7 turnovers is inexcusable and yes, it's no surprise we lost those games. The only other problem Tony had was he had a poor shooting percentage in the first game, but considering he shot 51% the rest of the way through, you have to let a bad-shooting game go every now and then. He was probably pressing with Manu out against a team that very much had our number. It's not easy to get all those layup attempts against the likes of Randolph, Gasol, Arthur, Battier, and Allen, especially when you are the only guy out there they really have to worry about.

Otherwise, those types of numbers are pretty much what we can expect from Parker, and should be able to win games with. It certainly wasn't a series to write home to France about, especially since he got outplayed by Conley, but Parker wasn't our main problem against the Griz; our lack of a frontline was.

[portnoy1]

The problem with Parker is that he is a scoring point guard that is having trouble scoring. That doesn't bode well at all, especially if his court vision and jumpshot are around or below average.

He needs to learn from Manu. Example - Since Ginobili missed the playoffs a few season back, when is the last time you seen him go 1 on 3 in fastbreak situations? Or how many times does he get some spacing and shoot a 3 instead of driving hard down the lane everyplay like he used to 6-7 yrs ago. Look how he draws fouls, alot of it is done with trickery on the perimeter than going down the lane like he used to.

I am not gonna bash Parker, actually its amazing he has been able to put up good numbers considering in reality how limited his game is. When Manu started breaking down he had other things to go to like I stated above. As for Parker he has speed; Speed which is posessed by many points guards now. He has an iffy jumpshot (worse 3pt shot) and a limited passing game. Not to mention that his defense has wained over the years. Then again thats more of a team issue.

[jeebus]

Just another reason why the team will be blown up after this season.

[Cane]

Parker against the Griz:

Game - Points - Assists - Turnovers - FG%
1 - 20 - 5 - 2 - 25%
2 - 12 - 8 - 2 - 43%
3 - 16 - 5 - 6 - 36%
4 - 23 - 1 - 7 - 75%
5 - 24 - 9 - 1 - 45%
6 - 24 - 4 - 2 - 59%

The two games bolded seem to be the only two games anyone remembers Parker playing in the playoffs. Yes, 6-7 turnovers is inexcusable and yes, it's no surprise we lost those games. The only other problem Tony had was he had a poor shooting percentage in the first game, but considering he shot 51% the rest of the way through, you have to let a bad-shooting game go every now and then. He was probably pressing with Manu out against a team that very much had our number. It's not easy to get all those layup attempts against the likes of Randolph, Gasol, Arthur, Battier, and Allen.

Otherwise, those types of numbers are pretty much what we can expect from Parker, and should be able to win games with. It certainly wasn't a series to write home to France about, especially since he got outplayed by Conley, but Parker wasn't our main problem against the Griz; our lack of a frontline was.

Parker was still one of the main problems against the Grizz (Spurs frontline and an injured Ginobili being the other 2 big reasons). Parker did not have a decent series gainst the Grizz, especially considering he's the healthiest and youngest member of the Big 3.

From those numbers, which don't tell the whole story about how bad Parker played, he still didn't play up to par for 4/6 games. First game he had a terrible FG% when the Spurs needed him the most with Manu out, second game he was able to distribute but still struggled to score as he only had 12 points on 14 attempts, and he had turnover/scoring problems again in the other games. And Parker's defense, well, yea..

Parker's struggles in the Grizz series showed some of his decline but to me its been apparent in the past couple of seasons. Hopefully he can turn things around, but it seems unlikely, especially in this league of length and athletic guards and a hectic season. Imo Parker doesn't have the legs to be a consistent primary option but time will tell

[cantthinkofanything]

Parker was still one of the main problems against the Grizz (Spurs frontline and an injured Ginobili being the other 2 big reasons). Parker did not have a decent series gainst the Grizz, especially considering he's the healthiest and youngest member of the Big 3.

From those numbers, which don't tell the whole story about how bad Parker played, he still didn't play up to par for 4/6 games. First game he had a terrible FG% when the Spurs needed him the most with Manu out, second game he was able to distribute but still struggled to score as he only had 12 points on 14 attempts, and he had turnover/scoring problems again in the other games. And Parker's defense, well, yea..

Parker's struggles in the Grizz series showed some of his decline but to me its been apparent in the past couple of seasons. Hopefully he can turn things around, but it seems unlikely, especially in this league of length and athletic guards and a hectic season. Imo Parker doesn't have the legs to be a consistent primary option but time will tell

The problem is the gamble the FO is taking by waiting and seeing if he gets "it" back. If he doesn't, and his play continues to decline, the Spurs are going to be stuck with a point guard with average speed that can't create plays or shoot very well. And is a defensive liability.

Buy low sell high applies here. The Spurs have already missed the chance to sell at the peak. They need to avoid holding the bag at the end.

[z0sa]

Parker looks fatigued or something. He just isn't all there. He may have already sold out mentally on the Spurs and couldn't care less what happens now.

[portnoy1]

It also doesn't help when TJ Ford comes in and starts handing out dimes with ease. It would be good if they traded him for a big (or a 20pt scorer) before the league figures out he is on the decline.

[cantthinkofanything]

It also doesn't help when TJ Ford comes in and starts handing out dimes with ease. It would be good if they traded him for a big (or a 20pt scorer) before the league figures out he is on the decline.

Parker's only value was his speed. I'd rather have a slower point guard that can make assists than a slightly quicker than average point guard that can't. Espeically, if I can fill some other need by trading him.

Two weeks ago, I was against trading Parker until the season was over. Now, I'm open to the idea.

[portnoy1]

Funny how when Manu goes down things get exposed quick! REAL QUICK!

[lefty]

Funny how when Manu goes down things get exposed quick! REAL QUICK!
Yes

[SA210]

Sexting takes a lot out of you, especially sexting back to backs

[Imp23]

He's the only threat out there right now that can drive and score. With Manu Hurt, it's easier for teams to concentrate more on TP. Everyone else feeds off of Tony's penetration now that TD doesn't demand a double team. They run way more pick and rolls to free up TP. This yr is key to start the game fast so they can take a good lead because most teams are not going to fight to come back this yr because they might have a game the next night. Teams will be pulling their stars so that they are ready the next day instead of trying to pull a come from behind win and risk still losing and be too tired to play the next night.

[portnoy1]

Sexting takes a lot out of you, especially sexting back to backs
Who's wife do you think it is this time? Maybe Tiago's? Its gotta be somebody's woman, cause the last time TP played this bad was 2yrs ago when RJ first got here. Then the next season it all came out. I'm still trying to figure out how they kept him around.

Everyone makes mistakes, but this wasn't just some dude passing thru. This was a guy you played 4seasons with and won 2rings with. That's some Delonte type nonsense. I thought after that they might try to deal him, because if I am in the locker room and Tony says he is dead tired and then I come home to my wife and she says she is very tired ,but didnt do crap all day then I'll automatically be wondering............

That kinda of suspicion kills a locker room.

[portnoy1]

He's the only threat out there right now that can drive and score. With Manu Hurt, it's easier for teams to concentrate more on TP. Everyone else feeds off of Tony's penetration now that TD doesn't demand a double team. They run way more pick and rolls to free up TP. This yr is key to start the game fast so they can take a good lead because most teams are not going to fight to come back this yr because they might have a game the next night. Teams will be pulling their stars so that they are ready the next day instead of trying to pull a come from behind win and risk still losing and be too tired to play the next night.
That's weird, cause the times TP went down and Manu was the only option the job still got done and the TEAM AS A WHOLE played together and ultimately better. Remember when TP was out towards the end of the 09-10 season and Manu put on his cape? No doubt teams keyed in on him, but because he can score in a bunch of ways and has solid passing game he was unstoppable. Remember how RJ, Blair and HIll played with Manu?

[vander]

Where has the brilliant player he supposed to be gone ?
Where's Chip?
Where's finishing at will in the paint?
Where're 55 points in a single game?
Where's taking J's and stretching the D?
Where're successful penetrations ?
Where're successful fastbreaks ?
Where're dishing out correctly on fast break?
Has he ever done an assist on fastbreak I mean real PG assist to make it easier on FB, not soft ass rookie playmaking.
Where's Tony Parker?
come on 29, you should be taking over right now and you're playing your worst BBall it's been 2 years...
I'd rather see the young TP during 2003 campaign...
Depressing

took you three years to see this? well that's still better than most here I guess..

and I'm sure you think Manu has been a valuable asset for the last 3 years :rolleyes

[spurs10]

He most certainly gets a lot more attention when Manu is out. Neal and Green have benefited from this. His shots are not falling like they need to though. I think we'll see him snap out of it and other teams realizing the threat of some of the other guys.

[Imp23]

That's weird, cause the times TP went down and Manu was the only option the job still got done and the TEAM AS A WHOLE played together and ultimately better. Remember when TP was out towards the end of the 09-10 season and Manu put on his cape? No doubt teams keyed in on him, but because he can score in a bunch of ways and has solid passing game he was unstoppable. Remember how RJ, Blair and HIll played with Manu?

We are talking about TP. Manu is a well rounded player. TP doesnt have a shot besides that 15 footer and that is streaky. TP is a get to the whole type of player. Now that TD gets little to no attention it makes it hard for him to get to the whole. He is not as fast as he used to be either so thats why his assist are up. He can still get to the whole but his defender is still with him so he has to dish the ball or force something up.

[Ice009]

Something is up. I don't think Tony has just gotten old, because dropoffs like that usually don't happen so suddenly. He was fine towards the end of last season, and aside from a couple bad games, played decent in the playoffs (even if he was outplayed by Mike fucking Conley). I suspect it's either a nagging injury, lack of being in game shape (which isn't being helped by the condensed schedule and no chance to properly recover), or it's just a mental thing and he needs to get his head straight.

I expect the real Parker to show up at some point. I just hope it's sooner rather than later.

I think he's playing very similar to the first few games of the Memphis series. His defensive effort also seems worse after Manu went down. Kind of like he's not putting in full effort because he's dejected about the Manu injury. To me, he is playing exactly like he started out in the first few games of the Memphis series.

[therealtruth]

What hold's TP back is his ability to control a game with passing instead of scoring. He's been passing pretty good this season but he's not elite in that category. Parker's not that great at finding people for easy baskets in the paint. He tends to get his assists on outside shots which explains why he doesn't average that many and they are not always consistent. When the teams shooting well from the outside he tends to rack up the assists but not otherwise. Even ballhog Westbrook averaged 8 apg last season.

[Jahivah]

I've been tired of Tony Parker. In his prime he was the best penetrating/mid range Point in the game. Injuries and age have taken a toll on him and his inability to become a pass first point guard make him pretty average. Not to mention that he never was that much of a defender. Letting George Hill go was a mistake. This game is PG dominated and Parker can't defend elite Points in this league. I also believe that he is older that we're made to believe.

[mathbzh]

his inability to become a pass first point guard make him pretty average.

As most here I am disappointed with Parker slow start.
Spurs probably need more scoring out of him.

But until now he never tried to become a pass first PG (not necessary when last year his FG% was 52%). So how would you know he can't?

His FG% could be just a statistical anomaly. Two years ago he struggled with an injury and was slow but still had a 48 FG%.
113 FGA is not much, if you use that as a sample to measure his FG%, the expected error is near 10% (see Law of Large Number).

But, assuming he can't score anymore I don't see why he could not become a solid pass first PG. Clearly not the most creative passer but one who can take care of the ball and find the open shooter.

This year he is near elite in passing statistics:
- #8 in AP48M with 11.6 (note: T.T. is #7)
- #2 in A/TO with 4.95
He also has good +/- and On Court/Off Court statistics.

I believe he is really an underrated passer. He has been near the top of the league in Assist/BadPass for several years for a reason.

People has been complaining about him not being a pass first PG for years. Well, that may be happening... be careful what you wish for.

[spursfan09]

I think he's tired too. Of a lot of things, Manu always being hurt, busting his ass in the reg season when in the playoffs someone gets hurt and the season goes to hell. He still gets paid though.

[DMC]

Tony will be fine. For years he's actually played well above what he should be doing. We expect him to be a points leader on a team that has options, and we expect him to be an assists leader on a team that has passers. He doesn't run the offense, he runs with the offense and often times he is the offense.

I think he will get his legs back. Again, it was a long break and he handles the ball as much if not more than anyone else.

By mid season, we should see what he's going to do, if anything.

[lefty]

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[Spur|n|Austin]

took you three years to see this? well that's still better than most here I guess..

and I'm sure you think Manu has been a valuable asset for the last 3 years :rolleyes

So if you go by the quote in your signature, your small minded, correct?