The Kobe Trade Is The Reason There's Even An NBA Team In New Orleans

[Koolaid_Man]

:lol real talk if Kobe isn't traded to LA, New Orleans wouldn't have a team today...The landscape of the NBA would have forever been changed...No Shaq to LA, no Dwight in Orlando, and the Hornets would have never made it to New Orleans...in essence the city of New Orleans owes Kobe Bryant for bringing basketball to their desolate city...real talk


Of course we all know the Hornets didn't take the hidden gem that had fallen into their lap in Kobe Bryant and instead they trade him. The Hornets traded the draft rights of Kobe Bryant to the Lakers for center Vlade Divac on July 1, 1996. Vlade Divac was a young, established center and a very solid player, a player that would also have a very nice long career, just not quite as illustrious as Kobe Bryants.

A quick history lesson on the Charlotte Hornets: in 1991 the Hornets took talented power forward Larry Johnson in the draft, and of course in 1992 the Hornets selected big time center Alonzo Mourning in the draft and the franchise takes off. They now had 2 players with 20 and 10 capabilities and formed one of the best young trios with a player selected in 1991 Kendrall Gill. With three future 20 point scorers and a great duo in the post the Hornets had their first winning season in 1993 with a 44-38 record.

The next few years were marked by injuries to Johnson and Mourning, though the Hornets did get back to the playoffs in 1994–95, notching the first 50-win season in franchise history. However, the Chicago Bulls bounced Charlotte from the playoffs three games to one in the first round.

In the offseason the team dealt Mourning to the Miami Heat for guard Glen Rice and center Matt Geiger and guard Khalid Reeves. Geiger and Johnson tied for the team lead in rebounds, while Johnson and Rice provided balanced but high-powered scoring and All-Star guard Kenny Anderson ran the point for the injured Muggsy Bogues. Despite the changes, the Hornets failed to qualify for the playoffs during the 1995–96 season.

The offseason was again marked by vast changes: Anderson declined to re-sign, Johnson was shipped to the Knicks for power forward Anthony Mason, and center Vlade Divac was acquired from the Los Angeles Lakers for future superstar Kobe Bryant, who was picked 13th in the draft by the Hornets. The new-look Hornets were apparently even better, with Divac and Geiger providing the center combination, Mason averaging a double-double and all-NBA third team honors, Bogues back at the point, and Rice having the finest season of his career, finishing third in the league in scoring and earning all-NBA second team honors.

And thats where this all starts. This whole franchise was buzzing and from 1996 through 2001 the team was extremely successful. In 2000 the team had its best season, making the playoffs and making the conference semis for the first time in franchise history. However events would cause the demise of the Hornets. The season, however, was overshadowed by events off the court. The team's popularity had begun to sag due to fan discontent with Shinn's personnel moves; he had reportedly traded Mourning and several other stars out of an unwillingness to pay them market value. Michael Jordan, a North Carolina native, began negotiations to become part-owner of the team, but talks collapsed when Shinn refused to grant Jordan total control over the basketball side of the operation.

The event that generated the most headlines came when a woman claimed that Shinn had raped her in 1997. While he was able to fend off a civil suit, the trial severely tarnished his reputation in the city. The team's attendance dropped off even further and never recovered; the consensus was that while Charlotte was as basketball-crazy as ever, fans took out their anger at Shinn on the team. Of course in 2002 the team moved to New Orleans because of attendance.

So the question remains, what happens if the Hornets take Bryant and keep him. Would they still be in Charlotte after winning championships and championships?

http://www.slymf.com/forum/what-if-part-1-kobe-bryant-charlotte-story-41324.html

[NewcastleKEG]

Why no Shaq to LA? Kobe didn't matter at all in that equation

[redzero]

Congratulations on just finding out what was already obvious to many people.

[NewcastleKEG]

Hilarious concept by the way. Good work whatever slymf is

[Koolaid_Man]

Why no Shaq to LA? Kobe didn't matter at all in that equation


Shaq would have stayed in Orlando with Penny if Kobe had not been traded...He saw he had a young stud in Kobe and decided to roll the dice.

[Koolaid_Man]

Congratulations on just finding out what was already obvious to many people.


It's not obvious to you clowns...stop fronting...you faggots in New Orleans ought to be on your fucking knees giving that N|gga thanks for bringing a team to your city..ungrateful bastards

[rayjayjohnson]

Real talk - would Kobe still be a rapist if he hadn't gone to LA and had his ego stroked?

[rayjayjohnson]

It's not obvious to you clowns...stop fronting...you faggots in New Orleans ought to be on your fucking knees giving that N|gga thanks for bringing a team to your city..ungrateful bastards

I wish terrible things for you and those close to you

[redzero]

It's not obvious to you clowns...

Yeah, it is. It's pretty goddamn obvious to everybody on here except for you.

Again, congratulations on just finding this out. But remember, your stupid revelations are not always thread-worthy.

[Koolaid_Man]

Hilarious concept by the way. Good work whatever slymf is


It's hilarious because that shit is true...Charlotte would have stayed put if they kept Kobe...they fucked up royally in that deal...New Orleans owes it's existence to Kobe wanting to be in LA...go ahead and give that n|gga thanks :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

I wish terrible things for you and those close to you


If wishes were horses beggars would ride :toast

[Koolaid_Man]

Yeah, it is. It's pretty goddamn obvious to everybody on here except for you.

Again, congratulations on just finding this out. But remember, your stupid revelations are not always thread-worthy.


So you owe your existence to Kobe...I can appreciate your candor now statr showing that n|gga the respect he deserves...your ass would not be posting here if not for Kobe wanting to be in LA...deal with that shit and stop all the gotdam fronting

[NewcastleKEG]

Shaq would have stayed in Orlando with Penny if Kobe had not been traded...He saw he had a young stud in Kobe and decided to roll the dice.
:lol

LOL @ thinking Shaq would not have ended up in Hollywood to film his 5 whatever movies and drop albums etc.

Shaq going to the Lakers was about 2 things
A) Multipying his image
B) Running away from the Bulls

Shaq thought and correctly knew he was good enough to take the Vancouver Grizzlies to the Finals so it didn't matter who his running mate was

As my buddy said a few nights ago ''NBA always with it's shady trades''. Shaq would have ended up in LA one way or another.

Where is the logic in thinking a #13 draft pick & boy from high school was the domino that brought possibly the greatest post player ever to the Lakers. Vlade was leaving one way or another

The Hornets would probably not have survived in Charlotte with Kobe anyway. They certaintly would not have won any titles with just Kobe. He would have still needed a Shaq/Duncan post player to fall in his lap. Without Shaq/Gasol/Bynum.... Kobe is essentially Allen Iverson & Dominique Wilkins

So ultimately Lakers still win a couple titles atleast with JUST Shaq, depending on whether he is run out of town maybe he still finishes with 3 or more.

[Pelicans78]

Actually, the Kobe-Vlade trade did help the Lakers acquire Shaq. The trade for Kobe cleared more cap room for the Lakers. So yeah, Kool is right even though he didn't know why.

[Koolaid_Man]

:lol

LOL @ thinking Shaq would not have ended up in Hollywood to film his 5 whatever movies and drop albums etc.

Shaq going to the Lakers was about 2 things
A) Multipying his image
B) Running away from the Bulls

Shaq thought and correctly knew he was good enough to take the Vancouver Grizzlies to the Finals so it didn't matter who his running mate was

As my buddy said a few nights ago ''NBA always with it's shady trades''. Shaq would have ended up in LA one way or another.

Where is the logic in thinking a #13 draft pick & boy from high school was the domino that brought possibly the greatest post player ever to the Lakers. Vlade was leaving one way or another

The Hornets would probably not have survived in Charlotte with Kobe anyway. They certaintly would not have won any titles with just Kobe. He would have still needed a Shaq/Duncan post player to fall in his lap. Without Shaq/Gasol/Bynum.... Kobe is essentially Allen Iverson & Dominique Wilkins

So ultimately Lakers still win a couple titles atleast with JUST Shaq, depending on whether he is run out of town maybe he still finishes with 3 or more.

nice try MJ fanboy but you couldn't be more wrong...

If the Hornets could have worked something out with Bryant, their '96-97 starting lineup would have probably looked something like this:


C Matt Geiger (came over from the Heat in the Mourning deal)
F Anthony Mason
F Glen Rice
G Kobe Bryant
G Muggsy Bogues


Not a bad lineup considering Rice had his best year statistically in that season, earning him Second Team All-NBA honors.


The Hornets didn't have a draft pick in 1997, but in 1998 they selected Ricky Davis from Iowa. Davis has had a decent career, but if the Hornets have Kobe, they don't need another shooting guard.


the Hornets would be set with their first round pick in 1999, who actually was point guard Baron Davis.
Your lineup then looks like this for the 1999-2000 season:


C Elden Campbell
F Derrick Coleman
F Mason/Harrington
G Kobe Bryant
G Baron Davis


An All Star caliber lineup for sure. With Rice and Geiger gone, Coleman and Campbell would take over their respective spots.
And all this could've been if Kobe had stayed.

:lol here is the link

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/318700-what-if-the-charlotte-hornets-never-traded-kobe-bryant

[NewcastleKEG]

And that team is winning 0 rings....still

And how would the Hornets draft so high (Baron Davis) if they were obviously improved with the GREATEST OF ALL TIME Kobe on the roster for 2 seasons

The whole logic is fucking stupid and just exposes how overrated Kobe has become, the NBA's version of Derek Jeter

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

:lmao:lmao:lmao bleacherreport

[Koolaid_Man]

And that team is winning 0 rings....still

And how would the Hornets draft so high (Baron Davis) if they were obviously improved with the GREATEST OF ALL TIME Kobe on the roster for 2 seasons

The whole logic is fucking stupid and just exposes how overrated Kobe has become, the NBA's version of Derek Jeter


hey butt boy...when did LA win it's first title during the ShaKobe era? :lol

you are as stupid as advertised...:lol of course they wouldn't have won from 96-99 they didn't start winning until Kobe came into his own but they would have been able to get Baron without tanking..

[NewcastleKEG]

hey butt boy...when did LA win it's first title during the ShaKobe era? :lol

you are as stupid as advertised...:lol of course they wouldn't have won from 96-99 they didn't start winning until Kobe came into his own but they would have been able to get Baron without tanking..
The Davis pick is beyond not hypothetical

Point are
- Shaq goes to LA regardless of Kobe
- Shaq wins rings in LA regardless of Kobe


So your equation fails at step 1.

[Koolaid_Man]

The Davis pick is beyond not hypothetical

Point are
- Shaq goes to LA regardless of Kobe
- Shaq wins rings in LA regardless of Kobe


So your equation fails at step 1.


How and How?

There was no path for him to get there and he did a great job of winning a title with that great all-star lineup he had in Orlando didn't he...:lol

[Spur_Fanatic]

Charlotte (and/or the Hornets) would have no NBA titles anyway.
And most likely, same with Kobe.

Look at Kool trying to undervalue Shaq.

[NewcastleKEG]

How and How?

There was no path for him to get there and he did a great job of winning a title with that great all-star lineup he had in Orlando didn't he...:lol
Path?

They would have traded Vlade ala the Grizzlies dealing Gasol. You know handing players over

He lost to Hakeem & MJ. I'd say he did very well. Have you looked at those rosters he had in Orlando?

Penny and that's it

[Koolaid_Man]

Charlotte (and/or the Hornets) would have no NBA titles anyway.
And most likely, same with Kobe.

Look at Kool trying to undervalue Shaq.


how many titles would Duncan have if Kobe was in Charlotte or would Shaq have ram-rodded Duncan and the Spurs with Allen Iverson :lol

[NewcastleKEG]

Charlotte (and/or the Hornets) would have no NBA titles anyway.
And most likely, same with Kobe.

Look at Kool trying to undervalue Shaq.
And Dennis Scott & Nick Anderson are all star players now

[Koolaid_Man]

Path?

They would have traded Vlade ala the Grizzlies dealing Gasol. You know handing players over

He lost to Hakeem & MJ. I'd say he did very well. Have you looked at those rosters he had in Orlando?

Penny and that's it


You're insane...Shaq had Penny and hella shooters all around him..just like MJ had his whole career...MJ had shooters all around him...and 2 of the greatest defensive players in the history of the league and 1 top 50 player along with the greatest rebounder in NBA history...spar me the lesson please...

[Koolaid_Man]

And Dennis Scott & Nick Anderson are all star players now

they were very very good players....borderline Allstars

[NewcastleKEG]

how many titles would Duncan have if Kobe was in Charlotte or would Shaq have ram-rodded Duncan and the Spurs with Allen Iverson :lol
Stephan Marbury would have came to LA and won 4 rings (jk) Your talking about years down the road.

The point is

Shaq + (easy to find) Especially considering the Lakers already had Van Exel & Eddie Jones (Actual All Stars)

Kobe + (hard to find) Remember this was when the Lakers were missing the playoffs

[Spur_Fanatic]

how many titles would Duncan have if Kobe was in Charlotte or would Shaq have ram-rodded Duncan and the Spurs with Allen Iverson :lol

We'd probably have 1 more or so.
But only because Iverson was/is terrible.

...

Congrats. You just proved Kobe is not as bad as Iverson.
Kool, move on to another topic, you are terrible at basketball.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_izdOBpe5YXg/TCFsuqI9HKI/AAAAAAAADBQ/CU6S90llhlg/s320/wigger2big.jpg

[Koolaid_Man]

Stephan Marbury would have came to LA and won 4 rings (jk) Your talking about years down the road.

The point is

Shaq + (easy to find) Especially considering the Lakers already had Van Exel & Eddie Jones (Actual All Stars)

Kobe + (hard to find) Remember this was when the Lakers were missing the playoffs


So let's examine...Shaq gets Swept in the finals after playing with a Star-Studded Orlando team...He comes to LA and plays with All-Stars Van Exel and Eddie Jones and guess what he still couldn't win until when again?

When Kobe took Eddie's starting spot and came into his own...

come hard at me or go home...right now you're game is weak

[NewcastleKEG]

You're insane...Shaq had Penny and hella shooters all around him..just like MJ had his whole career...MJ had shooters all around him...and 2 of the greatest defensive players in the history of the league and 1 top 50 player along with the greatest rebounder in NBA history...spar me the lesson please...
And what happened to this AMAZING Penny & shooters when Shaq left town?

Penny was basically Tracy McGrady

Howard has a bunch of shooters around him and it got him 1 single Finals appearance and now this current day garbage

You have to look at the facts & history
When Kobe had an average NBA roster around him he was missing the playoffs & getting bounced out the 1st Round. AND threatening to skip town.

So who knows how long Kobe even lasts in Charlotte

[TacoMeatJackson]

Who give a fuck about the snitch. Nigguh ancient now. He'll probably collapse on the floor tonight bcuz them old bones cant handle no back2back.

[Spur_Fanatic]

So let's examine...Shaq gets Swept in the finals after playing with a Star-Studded Orlando team...He comes to LA and plays with All-Stars Van Exel and Eddie Jones and guess what he still couldn't win until when again?

When Kobe took Eddie's starting spot and came into his own...

come hard at me or go home...right now you're game is weak

Holy shit, your analytical mind just pushed you to compare Eddie Jones and Kobe Bryant? Yes, you are right. Kobe was better than Eddie Jones!

Err... Congrats?

[Koolaid_Man]

We'd probably have 1 more or so.
But only because Iverson was/is terrible.

...

Congrats. You just proved Kobe is not as bad as Iverson.
Kool, move on to another topic, you are terrible at basketball.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_izdOBpe5YXg/TCFsuqI9HKI/AAAAAAAADBQ/CU6S90llhlg/s320/wigger2big.jpg


Listen you have 1/3rd the knowledge I posses on this game..did you watch those epic battles versus the Spurs...Kobe literally saved Shaq from Duncan...don't make repost some of my greatest hits on this topic...you guys can be history revisionists all you want I saw that shit myself you can talk that shit to some unsuspecting faggot like pass1st but not Kool...I'm a mad man :lol

[TacoMeatJackson]

And what happened to this AMAZING Penny & shooters when Shaq left town?

Penny was basically Tracy McGrady

Howard has a bunch of shooters around him and it got him 1 single Finals appearance and now this current day garbage

You have to look at the facts & history
When Kobe had an average NBA roster around him he was missing the playoffs & getting bounced out the 1st Round. AND threatening to skip town.

So who knows how long Kobe even lasts in Charlotte

Word up. Snitch always been big man dependent. If the lil nigguh don't got a big like Shaq or the best overall frontline in basketball with Gasol, Drew, and Odom, nigguh bow out to the Suns.

He aint also never won a Finals MVP alongside Shaq like that real nigguh Wade. The snitch is nothing more than a 6'5" A.I. Real talk.

[NewcastleKEG]

So let's examine...Shaq gets Swept in the finals after playing with a Star-Studded Orlando team...He comes to LA and plays with All-Stars Van Exel and Eddie Jones and guess what he still couldn't win until when again?

When Kobe took Eddie's starting spot and came into his own...

come hard at me or go home...right now you're game is weak
Where is this Star-Studded Orlando Team?

No......Lakers won when Phil Jackson came into town & everyone matured like Derek Fisher & Rick Fox (remember them?)

And your COMPLETELY ignoring Glen Rice. He is the reason the Lakers finally broke through the first season

[Koolaid_Man]

Holy shit, your analytical mind just pushed you to compare Eddie Jones and Kobe Bryant? Yes, you are right. Kobe was better than Eddie Jones!

Err... Congrats?


The point is that Eddie was another all-star that Shaq couldn't win it all with...He had Van Exel too...:rollin

[Spur_Fanatic]

Dude, you were probably in middle school during the first Lakers threepeat, STFU wigger.

[Koolaid_Man]

Word up. Snitch always been big man dependent. If the lil nigguh don't got a big like Shaq or the best overall frontline in basketball with Gasol, Drew, and Odom, nigguh bow out to the Suns.

He aint also never won a Finals MVP alongside Shaq like that real nigguh Wade. The snitch is nothing more than a 6'5" A.I. Real talk.

If you can't afford college holla at Kool I may sponsor you Taco Meat...it's hard as fuck out there :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

Dude, you were probably in middle school during the first Lakers threepeat, STFU wigger.

Ohh ok that's all you got...Bow down to my greatness puhlease :lol

[TacoMeatJackson]

Nigguh, when Kobe actually has a decent Finals series, come at me. Homeboy Wade already got two great ones in the books. Read this shit and weep, muthafucka...

Dwyane Wade Mia 2006 34.7 7.8 3.8 46.8 33.8
Tim Duncan SA 2003 24.2 17.0 5.3 49.5 32.0
Michael Jordan Chi 1991 31.2 6.6 11.4 55.8 31.5
Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2002 36.3 12.3 3.8 59.5 31.4
Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2000 38.0 16.7 2.3 61.1 31.1
Michael Jordan Chi 1998 33.5 4.0 2.3 42.7 30.8
Tim Duncan SA 1999 27.4 14.0 2.4 53.7 30.7
Dwyane Wade Mia 2011 26.5 7.0 5.2 54.6 30.2
Michael Jordan Chi 1997 32.3 7.0 6.0 45.6 29.5
Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2001 33.0 15.8 4.8 57.3 29.4

Where your snitch at? :lol

[NewcastleKEG]

The flaw in logic your making is trying to compare Shaq & Kobe

Not only was Shaq greater he played a more influential & weaker position (bad post players). So his influence was by logic much greater


Other great guards would have signed up to play along side Shaq IN LOS ANGELES

Which post players would have signed up to join Kobe IN CHARLOTTE? Going a step further Kobe is Iverson & Dominique Wilkins without Shaq so the whole argument is pathetic.

You think if in 2001, Shaq & Mutumbo switch jerseys that mayyyyybe the Sixers beat the Lakers?

[Koolaid_Man]

Nigguh, when Kobe actually has a decent Finals series, come at me. Homeboy Wade already got two great ones in the books. Read this shit and weep, muthafucka...

Dwyane Wade Mia 2006 34.7 7.8 3.8 46.8 33.8
Tim Duncan SA 2003 24.2 17.0 5.3 49.5 32.0
Michael Jordan Chi 1991 31.2 6.6 11.4 55.8 31.5
Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2002 36.3 12.3 3.8 59.5 31.4
Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2000 38.0 16.7 2.3 61.1 31.1
Michael Jordan Chi 1998 33.5 4.0 2.3 42.7 30.8
Tim Duncan SA 1999 27.4 14.0 2.4 53.7 30.7
Dwyane Wade Mia 2011 26.5 7.0 5.2 54.6 30.2
Michael Jordan Chi 1997 32.3 7.0 6.0 45.6 29.5
Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2001 33.0 15.8 4.8 57.3 29.4

Where your snitch at? :lol

:lol Wade losing with Lebron and Bosh..Epic fail

[TacoMeatJackson]

Snitch can't even notch an all-time Finals performance and we supposed to believe this punk is Jordan's heir?

:lol

Nigguh nothing but a rich man A.I.

[Spur_Fanatic]

Kool, NBA talk is no Bieber fantalk you are used to.

[TacoMeatJackson]

:lol Wade losing with Lebron and Bosh..Epic fail

Kobe lose with them 4 hall of famers in '04. And unlike wade last year, Kobe was the reason they lost. Wade was a beast all finals last year. Cant put shit on him. Kobe shot something like 30% against Detroit. That what I call a fail, punk ass.

[Koolaid_Man]

The flaw in logic your making is trying to compare Shaq & Kobe

Not only was Shaq greater he played a more influential & weaker position. So his influence was by logic much greater


Other great guards would have signed up to play along side Shaq IN LOS ANGELES

Which post players would have signed up to join Kobe IN CHARLOTTE? Going a step further Kobe is Iverson & Dominique Wilkins without Shaq so the whole argument is pathetic.

You think if in 2001, Shaq & Mutumbo switch jerseys that mayyyyybe the Sixers beat the Lakers?

nothing flawed about my logic...you MJ fanbois I understand have been plotting your response since 1998....:lol you've had a long time to think about it :lol but the reality is say no one would have played with Kobe but they would have with Shaq...:lol they did and they lost...Penny, Jones, and Van Exel that's 3 all-stars...Go back to my OP and start all over you apparently can't read or comprehend not sure which

[Koolaid_Man]

Kobe lose with them 4 hall of famers in '04. And unlike wade last year, Kobe was the reason they lost. Wade was a beast all finals last year. Cant put shit on him. Kobe shot something like 30% against Detroit. That what I call a fail, punk ass.


uhh ok Taco Meat..I like to encourage you because it's prolly the only mental stimulation you get all day :lol

[Spur_Fanatic]

No one here compares Kobe with MJ, wigger.
Not even you. You compared Kobe to Iverson and E.Jones.

Which is a fair comparison. I commend you for your vision, Kool.
A poll asking which of the 3 is the better player would surely provoke an interesting and fair debate fro the community.

[Koolaid_Man]

No one here compares Kobe with MJ, wigger.
Not even you. You compared Kobe to Iverson and E.Jones.

Which is a fair comparison. I commend you for your vision, Kool.
A poll asking which of the 3 is the better player would surely provoke an interesting and fair debate fro the community.


Bend over and I'll show you a poll :lol er pole

[TacoMeatJackson]

nothing flawed about my logic...you MJ fanbois I understand have been plotting your response since 1998....:lol you've had a long time to think about it :lol but the reality is say no one would have played with Kobe but they would have with Shaq...:lol they did and they lost...Penny, Jones, and Van Exel that's 3 all-stars...Go back to my OP and start all over you apparently can't read or comprehend not sure which

Shaq in Orlando had to face Jordan and prime Hakeem in his runs. Snitch ass had to go through a Weak ass West (Suns, Jazz, and Nuggets :lol), Dwight "No Post Game" Howard, and an old ass Celtics team. Snitch's championships runs were cruise control.

Yeah, he was important in the 3 peat, I'll give you that

...as the second option.

[Spur_Fanatic]

Bend over and I'll show you a poll :lol er pole

You know you want it. :hat

[NewcastleKEG]

nothing flawed about my logic...you MJ fanbois I understand have been plotting your response since 1998....:lol you've had a long time to think about it :lol but the reality is say no one would have played with Kobe but they would have with Shaq...:lol they did and they lost...Penny, Jones, and Van Exel that's 3 all-stars...Go back to my OP and start all over you apparently can't read or comprehend not sure which
And Kobe played without Shaq and watched the playoffs from his couch as a so called ''elite'' player

What's your point?

[Koolaid_Man]

Shaq in Orlando had to face Jordan and prime Hakeem in his runs. Snitch ass had to go through a Weak ass West (Suns, Jazz, and Nuggets :lol), Dwight "No Post Game" Howard, and an old ass Celtics team. Snitch's championships runs were cruise control.

Yeah, he was important in the 3 peat, I'll give you that

...as the second option.


But he's Shaq baby the MDE :lmao

[TacoMeatJackson]

No one here compares Kobe with MJ, wigger.
Not even you. You compared Kobe to Iverson and E.Jones.

Which is a fair comparison. I commend you for your vision, Kool.
A poll asking which of the 3 is the better player would surely provoke an interesting and fair debate fro the community.

That a fair comparison too.

Snitch just marginally better than those cats.

[TacoMeatJackson]

But he's Shaq baby the MDE :lmao

Damn right. Shaq was ham on them 3 peat teams. And he was still a beast when he came here. It say alot about how good Wade is that he can win a Finals MVP playing alongside Shaq. When Kobe tried to do that he shot yall out the game and blew it against Detroit.

Snitch is just an average Finals performer. He cracks under real pressure, like we saw in the interrogation room :lol

[Spur_Fanatic]

This is now a "Is Kobe better than Iverson and Eddie Jones?" thread.

Thread sponsored by

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My take: It's very close, but yes. Kobe s better.

[NewcastleKEG]

I'd rank them


1a. Iverson
1b. Kobe
3. Penny
4. Eddie Jones



Seriously take a peak at Iverson's team mates and Kobe's. Bryant was drafted on a roster better than if you collected a ''all star'' team of Iverson's team mates all time.

[Koolaid_Man]

I'd rank them


1a. Iverson
1b. Kobe
3. Penny
4. Eddie Jones



Seriously take a peak at Iverson's team mates and Kobe's. Bryant was drafted on a roster better than if you collected a ''all star'' team of Iverson's team mates all time.

as an MJ and Bulls fan how does it feel to get your dick sucked by every Spurs, Mavs, and Heat fan...they been blowing MJ and his fans off for awhile now... :lol

[Spur_Fanatic]

We may need a mod to change the thread's title, though.
That, or ask luva when he logs, since this is his forum.

[Spur_Fanatic]

as an MJ and Bulls fan how does it feel to get your dick sucked by every Spurs, Mavs, and Heat fan...they been blowing MJ and his fans off for awhile now... :lol

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000976709/biggest_whiner_statue_1_xlarge.jpeg


What he is saying:

Why the general NBA population sides with MJ and not Kobe?!?
BOoHOHOoooo :depressed

[NewcastleKEG]

as an MJ and Bulls fan how does it feel to get your dick sucked by every Spurs, Mavs, and Heat fan...they been blowing MJ and his fans off for awhile now... :lol
How old are you?

IMO, the 90's Bulls were a rare team in which their influence went beyond the game of basketball. It was truly global and if your speaking MJ and the 1992 Olympics, that's obvious. The tongue wagging is a global image

But anyway, I think people really respect them because they did it with defense, unlimited drive & a bench (whole team effort). The whole losing to the Pistons and finally breaking through is a great life lesson story

If you grew up in the 90's...you enjoyed watching the Bulls. No matter who you were and this was exhibited by the standing ovation MJ/Bulls got in New York for example

I think only the 1920 Yankees & 1960 Celtics can match this. I've heard the same with the 1970 Steelers and considering how there are so many national fans... I might agree

[Spur_Fanatic]

Waste no NBA talk on the guy, he left. And without his take on the "Is Kobe better than Iverson and Eddie Jones?" subject, even though he is sponsoring it. Bad Kool.

[Koolaid_Man]

How old are you?

IMO, the 90's Bulls were a rare team in which their influence went beyond the game of basketball. It was truly global and if your speaking MJ and the 1992 Olympics, that's obvious. The tongue wagging is a global image

But anyway, I think people really respect them because they did it with defense, unlimited drive & a bench (whole team effort). The whole losing to the Pistons and finally breaking through is a great life lesson story

If you grew up in the 90's...you enjoyed watching the Bulls. No matter who you were and this was exhibited by the standing ovation MJ/Bulls got in New York for example

I think only the 1920 Yankees & 1960 Celtics can match this. I've heard the same with the 1970 Steelers and considering how there are so many national fans... I might agree

This tells me you were a front runner...I respected MJ's game but I was a fan of Magic like so many others...you'll never ever see Kool standing in no gotdam line waiting to buy Jordan's..I think anyone who wear those shoes are just flat out fucking idiots....I'mma rock the old school Fila's or my Kobe's...fuck MJ

[Spur_Fanatic]

Kool, make me a favour and change the thread's title to "Is Kobe better than Iverson and Eddie Jones?". We can't wait for luva, our all-mighty admin.

Thanks, pal. ;)

[Koolaid_Man]

Kool, make me a favour and change the thread's title to "Is Kobe better than Iverson and Eddie Jones?". We can't wait for luva, our all-mighty admin.

Thanks, pal. ;)

Bend over and we got ourselves a mighty fine deal :lol

[Spur_Fanatic]

I might do it, for NBA science!

[NewcastleKEG]

This tells me you were a front runner...I respected MJ's game but I was a fan of Magic like so many others...you'll never ever see Kool standing in no gotdam line waiting to buy Jordan's..I think anyone who wear those shoes are just flat out fucking idiots....I'mma rock the old school Fila's or my Kobe's...fuck MJ
As great as Magic is (Top 5) he falls short of the GOAT.

- Magic won on a franchise that was already well established with Kareem and Wilt before

- MJ never lost in the Finals. Now granted they never faced an opponent like the Celtics but I think people tuned in at the edge of their seat waiting for MJ to finally slip up.

And obviously MJ came onto the scene at the perfect time when ESPN (24-hour sports network) was coming along and you mentioned his sneakers. etc

[Ace]

Kobe is also is the reason the Lakers are barely a .500 team...

[Koolaid_Man]

As great as Magic is (Top 5) he falls short of the GOAT.

- Magic won on a franchise that was already well established with Kareem and Wilt before

- MJ never lost in the Finals. Now granted they never faced an opponent like the Celtics but I think people tuned in at the edge of their seat waiting for MJ to finally slip up.

And obviously MJ came onto the scene at the perfect time when ESPN (24-hour sports network) was coming along and you mentioned his sneakers. etc

how is he the greatest? he's not the greatest scorer nor he is the greatest shot blocker, assist man, 3 pt shooter, rebounder, nor ring bearer...Magis and Bird saved the leagued so he didn;t even do that...he is the greatest at getting the media to hype him though...perhaps he's the greatest Bull....until you can define greatest... SAVE IT!!!:toast

[mavs>spurs]

shut up you fuck faced bitch stop posting

[Koolaid_Man]

shut up you fuck faced bitch stop posting


you want more truth serum...:lol

[mavs>spurs]

i'll give you the truth serum lemme cum in a cup i ain't letting u suck my dick you faggot.

[mavs>spurs]

seriously kool i'm feelin froggy right now..you wanna meet up and get your ass kicked all the way up and down i35 bro

[Koolaid_Man]

seriously kool i'm feelin froggy right now..you wanna meet up and get your ass licked all the way up and down i35 bro

you would lick my ass up and down I35?...ok let's do it

[mavs>spurs]

look at that gay shit wanting guys to lick ur ass ur a fag kool

[Koolaid_Man]

look at that gay shit wanting guys to lick ur ass ur a fag kool

not if you're doing the licking....:lol

toss my salad Y.H and we're straight...

077UtUWGQOA

[Pelicans78]

You have to remember Kool-Aid, the Hornets routinely lose their major stars after drafting them. I think Kobe would have left as well. They didn't resign Zo, they traded LJ, traded Glenn Rice, Baron Davis, and now Paul. Kobe would have been gone as well. Also, Kobe demanded a trade to the Lakers after getting drafted.

[Koolaid_Man]

And what happened to this AMAZING Penny & shooters when Shaq left town?

Penny was basically Tracy McGrady

Howard has a bunch of shooters around him and it got him 1 single Finals appearance and now this current day garbage

You have to look at the facts & history
When Kobe had an average NBA roster around him he was missing the playoffs & getting bounced out the 1st Round. AND threatening to skip town.

So who knows how long Kobe even lasts in Charlotte

and when again did MJ have an average roster around him...:lol fact is Kobe's roster was below avg...also when did Timmy have an avg roster around him? :lol

[BanditHiro]

also when did Timmy have an avg roster around him? :lol

2003 the year he won a title and an mvp.

[Koolaid_Man]

2003 the year he won a title and an mvp.


ohh i get it....when he was playing with a prime Manu, Parker, and one of the greatest defensive players of our era in Bruce Bowen along with Veteren Robert Horry...yeah that sounds like an avg team to me...:lmao

[Koolaid_Man]

my next logical question Bandit Ho is whether or not he's played with the likes of Kwame Brown ( who asked Kobe not to pass him the ball) or Chucky Atkins, or Smush Parker, or even Brain Cook, or Chris Mihms....yeah those are really avg players...lol

[BanditHiro]

ohh i get it....when he was playing with a prime Manu, Parker, and one of the greatest defensive players of our era in Bruce Bowen along with Veteren Robert Horry...yeah that sounds like an avg team to me...:lmao

you know what...i'll let someone else take care of this one.

[Trill Clinton]

Oh yea? what you think about her?

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kvvqlshluT1qzr53co1_500.jpg

[Spur_Fanatic]

I wanted to turn this this thread in a "Is Kobe better than Iverson and Eddie Jones?" discussion, because I knew that Kool would once again embarass himself.

Two things, to correct Kool.

1) He asks when TD did not had a good team around him. Well, it's true. Last time was 2003. Young Parker, new Manu, serviceable Bowen. And no, Horry did not played as a Spur in 2003, he was a Laker, you ignorant Kool.

Let's reverse the question. What happened the last time Kobe had to lead a team by himself, and what happened that year to the Lakers? Well, we all know the answer to this question, right? ;)

2) I decree that from now on this is a "Is Kobe better than Iverson and Eddie Jones?" thread. I know some of us don''t like Kobe, so be fair on your answers. Personally, though it's very close, I say Kobe is the better player.