the new Big 12

[Blake]

will lose Mizzou and A&M and gain Orange Bowl record setter West Virginia and last year's Rose Bowl winner, TCU.

Aside from losing the St Louis TV market, I'm not sure anyone can argue against these new schools being football upgrades.

[DesignatedT]

Lol

[ChumpDumper]

LolAre they not football upgrades?

[Blake]

Lol

I bet you really arent loling

[ThePop]

All the whining teams are out, good teams in, even the weaker teams are better than ever. Will be fun to watch.

[DesignatedT]

They have had better teams in recent history but they are not better programs overall.

[The Reckoning]

They have had better teams in recent history but they are not better programs overall.


the 90s are calling

[ChumpDumper]

They have had better teams in recent history but they are not better programs overall.Overall meaning what?

Are you counting women's basketball championships?

[Horns_Up]

They have had better teams in recent history but they are not better programs overall.

How so? You have a losing record in the conference (since its inception) and Mizzou hasn't won a conference championship since before my parents were born. They are definitely upgrades. Combined they have appeared in 6 BCS bowls and won 4. Mizzou and A&M have won zero BCS bowls combined.

In addition I would say A&M might have more tradition, but that its overall a wash because Mizzou has no tradition. I think its certainly an upgrade.

[CubanSucks]

aggie fan: "....but...but...tradition..."

[benefactor]

All the whining teams are out, good teams in, even the weaker teams are better than ever. Will be fun to watch.
Indeed. Really looking forward to next season.

[DesignatedT]

. Combined they have appeared in 6 BCS bowls and won 4.


Lol Big East. Lol Mountain West.

[shyne]

Lol Big East. Lol Mountain West.

Lol can't even win in the big 12 and think you can win in the sec.

[Blake]

Lol Big East. Lol Mountain West.

Lol Texas Bowl

[stretch]

Aggie fan gets stupider by the day... :dizzy

[jgome21]

I've always been a huge fan for the BIG XII but I think the conference has turned into a joke. Losing Mizzou and ATM were huge. Both are huge markets with an established history. Although their football teams aren't as good as WVU and TCU's their programs are still better. You can blame UT for all this nonsense. Texas is too greedy and is tryng to use ESPN to bully others around. We need to have 12 teams in the conference with a title game, but not sure who else is there to add. I really would like ND because of the name and market but that won't happen. UT wouldn't allow it..........

[jgome21]

Lol can't even win in the big 12 and think you can win in the sec.

Aggies will struggle in football but will flourish in other sports, esp bball and baseball. You gotta look at it as a whole....typical longhorn fan.

[DesignatedT]

Lol Texas Bowl

lol tech
lol irrelevant

[Blake]

lol tech
lol irrelevant

Lol Aggies asking to be

[jjktkk]

Would of like the big 12 to have invited Houston over WV, but love that TCU replaced butthurt A&M.

[tlongII]

LOL Morgantown and Fort Worth. :lmao

[Blake]

LOL Morgantown and Fort Worth. :lmao

Does Corvallis, Oregon even have a wal mart?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Would of like the big 12 to have invited Houston over WV, but love that TCU replaced butthurt A&M.
Tbh when do you think TAMUK is gonna move up to the big 12?

[DesignatedT]

Lol Longhorns playing every Thanksgiving at home.
Lol the rest of the big12 letting them.
Lol everyone in that conference being Texas' bitch.

[shyne]

Lol getting bukkaked by shitty ass cart mccry jr.

[vander]

I like the new Big 12 too, deep down I loath all public universities and the public education system, so props to the Big 12 for Baylor and TCU, I hope they dominate :toast

[jjktkk]

Tbh when do you think TAMUK is gonna move up to the big 12?

Lol, Rich Rodriguez.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Lol, whoever the fuck TAMUK's football coach is

[tlongII]

Does Corvallis, Oregon even have a wal mart?

Not sure. Does Lubbock?

[Horns_Up]

Not sure. Does Lubbock?

At the 2010 census, Lubbock had a population of 229,573.
As of the 2010 United States Census, the population was 54,462.

Yeah, nice try talking smack, but you failed.

[tlongII]

At the 2010 census, Lubbock had a population of 229,573.
As of the 2010 United States Census, the population was 54,462.

Yeah, nice try talking smack, but you failed.

Really? The Big-12 gave up Texas A&M and Missouri. Then they gained West Virginia and TCU. You think that will bring more fans to the Big-12? :lol

[jjktkk]

Lol, whoever the fuck TAMUK's football coach is

Lol, comparing Div. I head football coaches to Div. II.

[ChumpDumper]

deep down I loath all public universities and the public education systemWhat a stunningly stupid thing to say.

[The Reckoning]

What a stunningly stupid thing to say.


lol i hope you mean by the fact boise state is a public institution

[Magua]

tbh i think everybody wins...big 12 gets 2 solid programs that are always competitive and we get a decent mizzou program + an extra bye week:tu

[vander]

What a stunningly stupid thing to say.

oh really

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

What a stunningly stupid thing to say.
My guess is it has something to do with evolution being taught and not creationism. vander is a hardcore bible thumper.

[Blake]

Not sure. Does Lubbock?

Yes.

Lol your lol at Morgantown

[vander]

My guess is it has something to do with evolution being taught and not creationism. vander is a hardcore bible thumper.

vander is hardcore capitalist. our public education system is a joke, a money pit, the US gets gets nothing in return for all the money it spends on education.

shut down public education and just assist poor families with their tuition costs, after the kid gets good grades

[ChumpDumper]

vander is hardcore capitalist. our public education system is a joke, a money pit, the US gets gets nothing in return for all the money it spends on education.

shut down public education and just assist poor families with their tuition costs, after the kid gets good gradesThis just gets funnier.

Please, do go on.

[vander]

This just gets funnier.

Please, do go on.

go on to what?

I take it you hold the public education system in high regard? that's a shame

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

the US gets gets nothing in return for all the money it spends on education.
except for innovative people who contribute to the US's economy.

Maybe you're right though. No public education system works great for countries like Somalia :tu

Do you have a problem with all the money the US spends on wars in countries like Iraq given that they get nothing in return for the money they spend on wars?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

shut down public education and just assist poor families with their tuition costs, after the kid gets good grades
without any public education system how the hell is an under privileged kid supposed to get good grades in the first place?

[ChumpDumper]

go on to what?

I take it you hold the public education system in high regard? that's a shameContinue....

[vander]

except for innovative people who contribute to the US's economy.

Maybe you're right though. No public education system works great for countries like Somalia :tu

Do you have a problem with all the money the US spends on wars in countries like Iraq given that they get nothing in return for the money they spend on wars?

lack of public education is the problem in Somalia? or is it the Socialism and Islam? why are you trying to compare apples to orange juice? is it that public education you received?

same thing with the war, it is a separate argument, and has nothing to do with the failures of the public education system.

[vander]

without any public education system how the hell is an under privileged kid supposed to get good grades in the first place?

lots of ways, most importantly, private tuition won't be as expensive as it is today, and there will also be plenty of discount schools funded in part by charity, etc. etc.

the fact that you can see only the back and white scenario of poor kid needs government to provide free school and meals shows a typical lack of understanding of economics and capitalism and history.

[vander]

Continue....

well aren't you just full of insightful posts :toast :lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Somalia hasn't been a socialist country since 1991 so idk why you blame socialism for their current struggles. I can give you several examples of countries in Africa that are predominantly Christian with the same civil war problems Somalia has if you want. Canada is however a socialist country that focuses on education and has free tuition for any student who's parents make less than 40k a year, yet doesn't have the debt problem the US has.

You said you hate public education because it's a money pit the US gets nothing in return for. War in countries like Iraq is a money pit the US gets nothing in return for. By that logic you shouldn't be a big fan of war either.

[ChumpDumper]

well aren't you just full of insightful posts :toast :lolI think your private education may have failed you in an area or two.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

lots of ways
name some. Without a free education for kids who have nothing, how are they supposed to get good grades?

[vander]

Somalia hasn't been a socialist country since 1991 so idk why you blame socialism for their current struggles. I can give you several examples of countries in Africa that are predominantly Christian with the same civil war problems Somalia has if you want. Canada is however a socialist country that focuses on education and has free tuition for any student who's parents make less than 40k a year, yet doesn't have the debt problem the US has.

You said you hate public education because it's a money pit the US gets nothing in return for. War in countries like Iraq is a money pit the US gets nothing in return for. By that logic you shouldn't be a big fan of war either.

what does Christian have to do with any of this? and why are you trying to make an argument for public education by pointing out poor African countries? how do those countries even remotely compare to America?

Canada is moving towards capitalism, and has never been been on the socialist side of the slider.

the cost of public education will only continue to snowball, like every other public program, whereas the Iraq war is pretty much in the books, and the fact that you think that the money spent on the Iraq war was a waste doesn't make it so, a stable, free, and prosperous Iraq will benefit the world economy, whereas a the alternative would have only lead to more death and destruction.

and public education is more than just a many pit, it does a very poor job of educating the youth. no competition + endless government funding = stagnant inefficient education.

[vander]

I think your private education may have failed you in an area or two.

4 posts now, no facts, no points, only arrogance and premise, typical...

[ChumpDumper]

Canada is moving towards capitalism, and has never been been on the socialist side of the slider.lol

More great stuff.

[vander]

name some. Without a free education for kids who have nothing, how are they supposed to get good grades?

did you read the post?
cheaper education
charity
loans
family, friends, *gasp* church :(

also there needs to be a little personal responsibility, if you can't save up a couple thousand dollars in 7 years to put your kid in school, then you shouldn't have brought a kid into that world

[vander]

lol

more great stuff.

5

[ChumpDumper]

5Without realizing it, you undermine your own argument every time you post.

It's hilarious.

[Magua]

It's pretty disconcerting to know that vander actually believes the shit he posts--and that's there many more like him.

The world is a scary place.

[vander]

Without realizing it, you undermine your own argument every time you post.

It's hilarious.

because you think so?


6

[Blake]

well aren't you just full of insightful posts :toast :lol

I highly recommend you post in the political forum.

It's an entertaining place. :tu

[ChumpDumper]

because you think so?No, it's very clear what you are doing. I guess things like this aren't taught in private schools.



6You've undermined yourself 13 times so far.

[vander]

It's pretty disconcerting to know that vander actually believes the shit he posts--and that's there many more like him.

The world is a scary place.

once again the opposition can only respond with premise.

props to DoK for actually trying to put up some arguments.

the rest up you need to open up your minds that the public education system closed so tight

[ChumpDumper]

once again the opposition can only respond with premise.

props to DoK for actually trying to put up some arguments.

the rest up you need to open up your minds that the public education system closed so tightI'm not really responding with premise. I'm laughing at yours in full context.

This is great.

[Magua]

the rest up you need to open up your minds that the public education system closed so tight

Tbh I couldn't help but think of the Kuato, from Total Recall when I read this.

[Horns_Up]

lack of public education is the problem in Somalia? or is it the Socialism and Islam?

A) Do you know what socialism is? You do know you have to have a functional government to have socialism correct (This is with the provision that communism and socialism are two totally different and separate forms of government. Like as different as East and West Germany circa 1980)? I don't think you could ever construe this government of any previous government of Somalia as socialist.

B) Some of the fastest growing and capitalistic countries in the world have large Islamic populations. Your post reeks of xenophobia and a poor understanding of economics, the public education system and socialism. Much less world history.

You also reek of supporting Ron Paul for the republican nomination. Good luck with that.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

what does Christian have to do with any of this?
What does Islam have to do with it?


and why are you trying to make an argument for public education by pointing out poor African countries? how do those countries even remotely compare to America?
I'm giving you examples of countries that have a completely free market with no public education


Canada is moving towards capitalism, and has never been been on the socialist side of the slider.
Labeling Canada as socialist or capitalist wasn't my point. My point was that Canada has a public education system and free tuition for any student with parents below the poverty line (40k), yet they don't have a debt problem at all.


the fact that you think that the money spent on the Iraq war was a waste doesn't make it so, a stable, free, and prosperous Iraq will benefit the world economy, whereas a the alternative would have only lead to more death and destruction.
1) :lol calling modern day Iraq a stable or prosperous country
2) You said public education is a money pit the US gets no returns on. What returns will the US get from the Iraq war?


and public education is more than just a many pit, it does a very poor job of educating the youth. no competition + endless government funding = stagnant inefficient education.
I agree with this, but that doesn't mean you get rid of public education completely. You repeal stuff like the No Child Left behind act that has fucked up public education.

did you read the post?
cheaper education
charity
loans
family, friends, *gasp* church :(
Oh boy. Charity? Seriously?


also there needs to be a little personal responsibility, if you can't save up a couple thousand dollars in 7 years to put your kid in school, then you shouldn't have brought a kid into that world
I couldn't possibly agree with this anymore than I do, but the parents don't suffer when they're too irresponsible to save for their kid's education, the kid does. Plenty of kids deserve the same opportunities I have for having responsible parents.

[The Reckoning]

i go to publik skool and i spel reel gud

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

A) Do you know what socialism is?
Most Republicans don't. They hear Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh call Barrack Obama a socialist and say his socialist policies will ruin America and use that to draw conclusions about what socialism is.