Well Done Parker

[cantthinkofanything]

well done

[timtonymanu]

After I defended his ass in the game blog, he pulls this shit.

:lol TP
:lol name any PG and they'll light him up

[cheguevara]

7 turnovers

Parker has fallen off the cliff. Trade his ass before its too late

[Spur|n|Austin]

Turnover in crucial point of the game there along with horrible decisions.. Trash.

[ElNono]

Now you know why Manu gets the ball at the end of games

[4>0rings]

Timvp going to give Parker a B+

[jag]

Spurs fans are the biggest b*aner faggots on the planet

[Jahivah]

I said in the other thread that this guy is a liability. George Hill is burning a in Indiana's bench when he could be our PG of the present and future. Parker is older than 29 in my opinion. Over the hill and washed up. Gets lit up by average Point Guards and plays with no heart. Even RJ is better that TP. I want George Hill back

[RodNIc91]

TBH although he screwed up that play I though TP play well enough for the team to win. It was more of an incapability to get some consecutive stops.

[jag]

I said in the other thread that this guy is a liability. George Hill is burning a in Indiana's bench when he could be our PG of the present and future. Parker is older than 29 in my opinion. Over the hill and washed up. Gets lit up by average Point Guards and plays with no heart. Even RJ is better that TP. I want George Hill back

He isn't good enough to get minutes on the Pacers but he's supposed to be our PG of the future? Guy isn't a PG. He's a pseudo-SG. And you're pseudo-retarded.



TBH although he screwed up that play I though TP play well enough for the team to win. It was more of an incapability to get some consecutive stops.

That's because he did play well enough for the team to win. It's the new IN thing to shit on parker right now.

[stephen jackson]

whats new

[ElNono]

:lol George Hill

[spurtech09]

spurs had a chance to win the game but tony parker had to screw it up at the end....well parker was playing good in the other quarters but just he just ran out of steam in the 4th quarter....pop should of put neal out there

[cheguevara]

Timvp going to give Parker a B+

:lmao

[timtonymanu]

Are we still on the George Hill > TP BS? Does anyone recall that game when Hill had a lot of TO's when he played point? If Manu's not on the floor with him, Hill sucks at being a PG.

[Mugen]

meh jennings hit some really tough shots that you really can't defend.

The turnovers and late game execution were disappointing but TP was pretty gassed by the end of the game from being the only creator on offense and chasing jennings around all game.

It's just one of those games where you really really miss Manu. can't really be that mad at TP for this one.

[jag]

spurs had a chance to win the game but tony parker had to screw it up at the end....well parker was playing good in the other quarters but just he just ran out of steam in the 4th quarter....pop should of put neal out there

Did you even see the replay of where he turned the ball over?? His arm was slapped from behind. Jennings didn't even touch the ball.

[4>0rings]

lol @ TP saying the championship run was over, then backing out of that claim, then playing like that claim

[Spurs Brazil]

Tony had some bad TOs in the 4th but it was good to see him attacking and finishing again. We lost this game because our defense is a joke and it doesn't help when Pop keeps playing the turd towers.
Spurs D nowadays is hope for the other team miss. In the last 5 the only opponent that not shoot over 50% was Dallas.

[Buddy Holly]

George Hill is burning a in Indiana's bench when he could be our PG of the present and future. Parker is older than 29 in my opinion. Over the hill and washed up. Gets lit up by average Point Guards and plays with no heart. Even RJ is better that TP. I want George Hill back

Guy, stfu and quit posting and creating stupid ass threads with your jacked up basketball "knowledge."

George Hill the Spurs point guard of the future? Did you huff paint as a kid?

[jag]

Are we still on the George Hill > TP BS? Does anyone recall that career when Hill had a lot of TO's when he played point? If Manu's not on the floor with him, Hill sucks at being a PG.

fixed

[cantthinkofanything]

TBH although he screwed up that play I though TP play well enough for the team to win. It was more of an incapability to get some consecutive stops.

no way. He made some shots but doesn't get anyone else involved. Ans he's too slow to take over a game anymore. He makes me long for Rod Strickland.

[ElNono]

Did you even see the replay of where he turned the ball over?? His arm was slapped from behind. Jennings didn't even touch the ball.

And the play before he went early in the offense with his hero shot and missed everything... on that turnover, he was back at dribbling dribbling instead of running the offense... he played well most of the game, but his execution at the end was horrible for an "experienced" point guard

[spurtech09]

Did you even see the replay of where he turned the ball over?? His arm was slapped from behind. Jennings didn't even touch the ball.
well I guess you can blame the refs to as well?

[Buddy Holly]

pop should of put neal out there

Neal wasn't running as much as he was just looking for his shot.

[cantthinkofanything]

Tony had some bad TOs in the 4th but it was good to see him attacking and finishing again. We lost this game because our defense is a joke and it doesn't help when Pop keeps playing the turd towers.
Spurs D nowadays is hope for the other team miss. In the last 5 the only opponent that not shoot over 50% was Dallas.

attacking and finishing????? when was this????

[Basketball Power]

only the fucking Spurs are dumb enough to keep a PG who says the team's title hopes are done

[Buddy Holly]

And the play before he went early in the offense with his hero shot and missed everything... on that turnover, he was back at dribbling dribbling instead of running the offense... he played well most of the game, but his execution at the end was horrible for an "experienced" point guard

YES! This has always been my biggest gripe with Tony. He's a score first point guard, it's maddening.

What I wouldn't give for a Tony/Nash trade.

[Spurs Brazil]

attacking and finishing????? when was this????

whole game. 22pts

[Cane]

There were a few assist opportunities that Parker was too slow to capitalize on. Damn shame that TJ Ford went down too.

Yikes...

[spurtech09]

And the play before he went early in the offense with his hero shot and missed everything... on that turnover, he was back at dribbling dribbling instead of running the offense... he played well most of the game, but his execution at the end was horrible for an "experienced" point guard
well every player has those days...tony parker can't do everything...no matter what parker played his heart out things happen....give the guy abreak....its hard when one of your best players is not playing....

[cantthinkofanything]

Are we still on the George Hill > TP BS? Does anyone recall that game when Hill had a lot of TO's when he played point? If Manu's not on the floor with him, Hill sucks at being a PG.

I'm not on this. But I am on trade TP.

[FkLA]

Did you even see the replay of where he turned the ball over?? His arm was slapped from behind. Jennings didn't even touch the ball.

What about him coming down the court after the Kawai steal and bricking a jumper 8 seconds into the shot clock? Letting Jennings break him down on the other end? Trotting down the court on the last play after a jumpball with Milwaukees defense scrambling? This guy is one of the worst PGs when it comes to managing games, always has been.

[spurtech09]

And the play before he went early in the offense with his hero shot and missed everything... on that turnover, he was back at dribbling dribbling instead of running the offense... he played well most of the game, but his execution at the end was horrible for an "experienced" point guard
well every player has those days...tony parker can't do everything...no matter what parker played his heart out things happen....give the guy abreak....its hard when one of your best players is not playing....manu

[jag]

And the play before he went early in the offense with his hero shot and missed everything... on that turnover, he was back at dribbling dribbling instead of running the offense... he played well most of the game, but his execution at the end was horrible for an "experienced" point guard

Oh you mean that wide open 15-footer?? What a horrible "hero mode". A smarter more experienced play would have been to pass up the open shot and hope to find Matt Bonner later in the possession.

That wasn't a "hero" shot. It was a wide open shot that he normally knocks down. And it would have given the Spurs the lead. You're acting like a bitch

[Birn]

meh jennings hit some really tough shots that you really can't defend.

The turnovers and late game execution were disappointing but tp was pretty gassed by the end of the game from being the only creator on offense and chasing jennings around all game.

It's just one of those games where you really really miss manu. Can't really be that mad at tp for this one.




+1

[cantthinkofanything]

Parker for Conley.

[jag]

attacking and finishing????? when was this????

Oh, I'm sorry, you must have missed the 10-18 shooting night with 8 assists. Motherfucker could walk on water and it still wouldn't be enough for illiterate community college spurs fan.

[cheguevara]

only the fucking Spurs are dumb enough to keep a PG who says the team's title hopes are done

and who fucks a teammate's wife

[RodNIc91]

Tony had some bad TOs in the 4th but it was good to see him attacking and finishing again. We lost this game because our defense is a joke and it doesn't help when Pop keeps playing the turd towers.
Spurs D nowadays is hope for the other team miss. In the last 5 the only opponent that not shoot over 50% was Dallas.

:rollinHilarious! (Sad but true! :rolleyes)

I was wondering since teams have figured that attacking constantly the PnR with Duncan is effective nowadays, I would be thrilled to see Tiago getting Duncan's usual cover while BOTH being on the court. Timmy would still be able to anchor the defense right?

[mexicanjunior]

Oh, I'm sorry, you must have missed the 10-18 shooting night with 8 assists. Motherfucker could walk on water and it still wouldn't be enough for illiterate community college spurs fan.

7 turnovers...including 1 in the final minute. Just sayin...

This wasn't totally Parker's fault, team as a whole played horrendous defense and missed WAY too many FT's to expect to win a close game.

[callo1]

Jennings made a good, desperate defensive play and poked the ball lose. Parker didn't cost the Spurs this game. The Spurs let the Bucks hang around and it bit them in the end.

[spurtech09]

meh jennings hit some really tough shots that you really can't defend.

The turnovers and late game execution were disappointing but TP was pretty gassed by the end of the game from being the only creator on offense and chasing jennings around all game.

It's just one of those games where you really really miss Manu. can't really be that mad at TP for this one.agree---plus ford getting hurt didn't help either

[jag]

7 turnovers...including 1 in the final minute. Just sayin...

This wasn't totally Parker's fault, team as a whole played horrendous defense and missed WAY too many FT's to expect to win a close game.

yeah...7 turnovers and he still had 8 assists. Can you not figure out what that means?

[mexicanjunior]

yeah...7 turnovers and he still had 8 assists. Can you not figure out what that means?

Yeah, that his assist to turnover ratio this game was atrocious...

[Jahivah]

Parker insists on holding the ball for the first 15 seconds then makes some stupid decision with the clock running down. Spurs ball movement is horrible with Parker as the primary playmaker.

[cantthinkofanything]

Oh, I'm sorry, you must have missed the 10-18 shooting night with 8 assists. Motherfucker could walk on water and it still wouldn't be enough for illiterate community college spurs fan.

GMAB. He's too slow to get to the rim out of the set offense. Is that not blatently clear???? Now it's dribble...dribble... make move to basket...get stopped...move back out...dribble...dribble...shoot

[Mugen]

First of all, who else on this team would have even had a chance to guard Jennings?

The pull up jumper after the Kawhi steal was a damn good shoot that just didn't go in.

Jennings clearly fouled TP on the turnover. That's a call the Bucks get at home. Same with Timmy's charge. No huge gripe there.


TP was confused because he thought Pop would call a TO after the jumpball but he didnt. Wasn't a good looking play but the spurs got a wide open 3pt attempt from their best 3pt shooter this year.

RJ missed, that shit happens. But Carlos fucking Delfino is hitting step back 25 footers all night.

Gimme a fucking break Spurfan.

[ElNono]

well every player has those days...tony parker can't do everything...no matter what parker played his heart out things happen....give the guy abreak....its hard when one of your best players is not playing....

I don't expect him to do everything. I think overall he had a good game.
That doesn't mean he wasn't awful in the 2nd quarter and the clutch.


Oh you mean that wide open 15-footer?? What a horrible "hero mode". A smarter more experienced play would have been to pass up the open shot and hope to find Matt Bonner later in the possession.

That wasn't a "hero" shot. It was a wide open shot that he normally knocks down. And it would have given the Spurs the lead. You're acting like a bitch

The reason you don't take that shot is because you have absolutely nobody to rebound the miss. You don't close out games taking wimpy jumpshots. It's the reason GOOD closers attack the basket. You score or get fouled.

And no comment about the incessant dribbling in that turnover play? Go watch it again. Protect the fucking basket. This isn't rocket science.

I guess asking him to outplay Jennings closing out a game is too much these days.

[TDfan2007]

:lol

Wow how can you guys harp on Tony's defense. He was running around like a madman all game chasing Jennings through screen after screen. Jennings hit some very tough shots. Tony played well enough for our team to win, but defensively everyone outside of Tim, Tony, and Leonard (kind of) played like complete dogshit, especially Blair. The TOs for Tony were a problem this game, but he attacked the pain relentlessly and looked for his teammates.

Many of you are getting pathetic with the Tony bashing. It's as if you don't understand how basketball works, let alone the offensive scheme for the Spurs...

If our team shoots about 60% for the game, and Tony is hounding Jennings all game, then it's a good bet that we didn't lose because he made a few turnovers at the end. Idiots.

[lefty]

Le vieux sac a merde

LVSM


Translation: TOSB

[ElNono]

Even if it was a foul, you don't dribble incessantly and expose the ball like that. Do you see Manu dribbling the ball over and over in the same situation? No. He let's the offense set up, hold the ball until he's ready to go, then he goes.

[Jahivah]

GMAB. He's too slow to get to the rim out of the set offense. Is that not blatently clear???? Now it's dribble...dribble... make move to basket...get stopped...move back out...dribble...dribble...shoot

Perfectly put

[jag]

Yeah, that his assist to turnover ratio this game was atrocious...

A simple "no, I can't figure out what that means" would have sufficed.

It means he was doing all the creating for the offense. When the ball wasn't in Duncan's hands, then the entire offense was dependent on Tony creating for everyone else on the floor. The ball stopped dead when he didn't come back to take it away from whoever was standing still looking around for a help pass.

He had 7 TO's and 8 assists because he was being forced to create everything for everyone.

[Buddy Holly]

First of all, who else on this team would have even had a chance to guard Jennings?

The pull up jumper after the Kawhi steal was a damn good shoot that just didn't go in.

Jennings clearly fouled TP on the turnover. That's a call the Bucks get at home. Same with Timmy's charge. No huge gripe there.


TP was confused because he thought Pop would call a TO after the jumpball but he didnt. Wasn't a good looking play but the spurs got a wide open 3pt attempt from their best 3pt shooter this year.

RJ missed, that shit happens. But Carlos fucking Delfino is hitting step back 25 footers all night.

Gimme a fucking break Spurfan.

I agree. A lot of overreaction to a loss on ST (as usual). But you honestly can't be happy with the way Parker runs the offense.

[spurtech09]

First of all, who else on this team would have even had a chance to guard Jennings?

The pull up jumper after the Kawhi steal was a damn good shoot that just didn't go in.

Jennings clearly fouled TP on the turnover. That's a call the Bucks get at home. Same with Timmy's charge. No huge gripe there.


TP was confused because he thought Pop would call a TO after the jumpball but he didnt. Wasn't a good looking play but the spurs got a wide open 3pt attempt from their best 3pt shooter this year.

RJ missed, that shit happens. But Carlos fucking Delfino is hitting step back 25 footers all night.

Gimme a fucking break Spurfan.
agree things happen....we need to stop talking about how tp played and talk about how leonard played ....leonard looked awesome out there....hope he can play like this all the time...sucks that the spurs lost cause it would of been sweet if they did cause leonard had a pretty solid game

[ElNono]

I actually hated Ginger and Blair more, tbh

[RodNIc91]

The reason you don't take that shot is because you have absolutely nobody to rebound the miss. You don't close out games taking wimpy jumpshots. It's the reason GOOD closers attack the basket. You score or get fouled.

TP routinely hits that shot. Go watch Spurs vs Hornets 08 game 7 if you dont believe me.

[FkLA]

That wasn't a "hero" shot. It was a wide open shot that he normally knocks down. And it would have given the Spurs the lead. You're acting like a bitch

That he normally knocks down :lol

The guys mid-range shot is very inconsistent. There was a point were he was making strides after working with Chip and than he just kind of plateaued, the last year or two hes actually regressed imho. Too bad they stopped doing hotspots but this is from two yrs ago when his shot was slightly better.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/45181245.png

[jag]

The reason you don't take that shot is because you have absolutely nobody to rebound the miss. You don't close out games taking wimpy jumpshots. It's the reason GOOD closers attack the basket. You score or get fouled.

And no comment about the incessant dribbling in that turnover play? Go watch it again. Protect the fucking basket. This isn't rocket science.

I guess asking him to outplay Jennings closing out a game is too much these days.

He was fouled on the play when he lost the ball. Are you blind or do you just refuse to accept that he was on his way to an open lane to the basket?

Please tell me more about how Tony should have attacked the rim with one of the best shotblockers in the game standing right under the rim. Please tell me how that's the smart thing to do. I'm interested in your basketball takes that categorize wide open, potential go-ahead, 15-foot jumpers as "wimpy shots".

[Kori Ellis]

Even if it was a foul, you don't dribble incessantly and expose the ball like that. Do you see Manu dribbling the ball over and over in the same situation? No. He let's the offense set up, hold the ball until he's ready to go, then he goes.

:lol Manu has racked up countless turnovers in the clutch by over-dribbling and trying to be a hero. Just because he's sitting on the bench healing his brittle bones right now doesn't mean he's flawless.

Tony had plenty of bad moments in this game, but the game wasn't lost on just him. The D on Stephen Jackson (and almost everyone else) was a big part of it too.

[ElNono]

TP routinely hits that shot. Go watch Spurs vs Hornets 08 game 7 if you dont believe me.

This isn't 2008 Tony Parker anymore...

[jag]

GMAB. He's too slow to get to the rim out of the set offense. Is that not blatently clear???? Now it's dribble...dribble... make move to basket...get stopped...move back out...dribble...dribble...shoot


Perfectly put

You know you're making sense when Jahivah is pimping your posts.

[mexicanjunior]

A simple "no, I can't figure out what that means" would have sufficed.

It means he was doing all the creating for the offense. When the ball wasn't in Duncan's hands, then the entire offense was dependent on Tony creating for everyone else on the floor. The ball stopped dead when he didn't come back to take it away from whoever was standing still looking around for a help pass.

He had 7 TO's and 8 assists because he was being forced to create everything for everyone.

In other words, he was trying to play the position of PG and managed to have a ratio that would land most other NBA PG's in the D-league. Thanks for the analysis Sherlock...

For the record, I didn't think the loss was entirely Parker's fault but he certainly contributed to it. The Parker defenders on this board are ridiculous though, just can't find it in themselves to admit he had a bad game. It's ok man, if you wanna excuse Parker for having too much on his plate, than I guess you are entitled...

[Mugen]

I agree. A lot of overreaction to a loss on ST (as usual). But you honestly can't be happy with the way Parker runs the offense.

Without Manu, TP is the offense. And we are pretty damn good even with him doing EVERYTHING for us on that side of the court.

The defense is much much much more troubling. They haven't put together a good defensive effort since the start of the season. That Dallas game is misleading cuz the Mavs missed a lot of shots they normally make.

We are putting up points but cant get a stop when needed. Same as the last two seasons.

[Kori Ellis]

Oh and we should have known Tony was headed to a big turnover game soon -- he had the second best assist/T.O. ratio in the league going into this one.

[jag]

This isn't 2008 Tony Parker anymore...

:cry

"everyone knows 29 year old Tony Parker can't hit wide open 15-foot J's anymore. "

:cry

[Mugen]

I actually hated Ginger and Blair more, tbh

JA had one of the worst stretches of basketball i've seen in a really long time. Udoka-esque.

Really disappointing.

[Brazil]

keeponthinkingofanything tbh

[jag]

In other words, he was trying to play the position of PG and managed to have a ratio that would land most other NBA PG's in the D-league. Thanks for the analysis Sherlock...


I forgive you. It's not entirely your fault you process things at the level of a slow 9-year old. I primarily blame your horrible genetics.

[ElNono]

:lol Manu has racked up countless turnovers in the clutch by over-dribbling and trying to be a hero. Just because he's sitting on the bench healing his brittle bones right now doesn't mean he's flawless.

Tony had plenty of bad moments in this game, but the game wasn't lost on just him. The D on Stephen Jackson (and almost everyone else) was a big part of it too.

Manu isn't flawless, but he doesn't overdribble when closing a game. The vast majority of turnovers Manu had trying to close games are trying to split a screen (and he definitely had quite a few of those).

I never said Tony lost this game. I actually said he played well overall.
That doesn't mean he didn't suck in the clutch. Some people are seemingly too sensitive to a comment like that with the crap Tony's been getting.

[TJastal]

A simple "no, I can't figure out what that means" would have sufficed.

It means he was doing all the creating for the offense. When the ball wasn't in Duncan's hands, then the entire offense was dependent on Tony creating for everyone else on the floor. The ball stopped dead when he didn't come back to take it away from whoever was standing still looking around for a help pass.

He had 7 TO's and 8 assists because he was being forced to create everything for everyone.

God forbid somebody actually expects him to be a point guard. Ya, sucks for him that Manu is out of action but that just means he needs to step up and take on the mantle.

[jag]

Manu fan is the most pathetic waste of space on these boards.

Tony Parker can do no right.

"Manu doesn't overdribble when closing a game!!" :lmao

No, he just chucks up fadeaway 25-footers to lose games. But it's ok because he plays with "fiery Argie passion!"

What a joke.

[jjktkk]

Tps one of the leaders on this team, so I don't have problem with taking a open jumper. Too much bashing Parker on here, when its the horrible defense that people need to be bitching about.

[mexicanjunior]

I forgive you. It's not entirely your fault you process things at the level of a slow 9-year old. I primarily blame your horrible genetics.

:lol

Parker apologists...so much good schtick.

[Buddy Holly]

Fuck, this is turning into the template of a political thread.

[Brazil]

Do you see Manu dribbling the ball over and over in the same situation? No. He let's the offense set up, hold the ball until he's ready to go, then he goes.

:lol

come on elnono... we all love manu but right there you are exaggerating a little bit :lol

I didn't see the game so no comment on tp game but I saw plenty of games with manu dribbling the ball over in the clutch tbh fwiw

[ElNono]

He was fouled on the play when he lost the ball? Are you blind or do you just refuse to accept that he was on his way to an open lane to the basket?

:lol He's not getting that call in Milwaukee. Both you and I know it. Which is the reason you don't keep dribbling and dribbling like a maniac. It was poor judgment from him. It's ok, he can make mistakes sometimes too, you know?


Please tell me more about how Tony should have attacked the rim with one of the best shotblockers in the game standing right under the rim. Please tell me how that's the smart thing to do. I'm interested in your basketball takes that categorize wide open, potential go-ahead, 15-foot jumpers as "wimpy shots".

What do you want to know, specifically? Please let me know if you started watching basketball yesterday, so I can know how basic I have to make this.
You could start by googling "penetrate and kick", "defense collapsing on penetration" and "Jennings steals the ball from Parker and seals the game".

[Kori Ellis]

Oh and I'm glad the Spurs are losing these games. Last year, the Spurs racked up ridiculous, fluke wins while playing horrible defense all year. They suckered themselves into thinking that they were a better team than they were. They stopped being hungry and they stopped getting better. And in the postseason, they were exposed as a fluke.

If they kept winning when Manu was out, they'd again think they are better than they are. Now that they lost a few, and Pop called them out as the worst defensive team he's ever had -- they'll stay focused, hungry and become a better basketball team.

[Though I still don't think they'll go very far in the postseason.]

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

cool thread tbh

[RodNIc91]

Tony had plenty of bad moments in this game, but the game wasn't lost on just him. The D on Stephen Jackson (and almost everyone else) was a big part of it too.

I thought even though cow eye made a good effort S-Jax was receiving way too close to the basket and it didnt help we didnt try hard enough to cool him down.

On a side note its mind boggling how Green and Anderson are taking turns into suckin when they are actually needed and can carve a role for themselves.

[ElNono]

:lol

come on elnono... we all love manu but right there you are exaggerating a little bit :lol

I didn't see the game so no comment on tp game but I saw plenty of games with manu dribbling the ball over in the clutch tbh fwiw

I thought our offensive execution to close the game was pathetic, and that included (what I deemed) a poor, hurried jumper by tony, a turnover by tim (bad call, but I don't think it was avoidable) and another turnover by tony (bad call, but I thought it could've been avoided).

Let me say it one more time because it's the third time I say it, but it doesn't seem to register: I thought Tony played a good game overall.

[Jahivah]

In order to become a defensive team Pop will have to do something that he has proven unwilling to do: Play the young guys. Leonard, Green, Splitter along with Duncan and Parker?. Parker's horrible but the only option at PG. Dejuan Blair cannot defend to save his life, RJ just as bad if not worse.

[jag]

Tps one of the leaders on this team, so I don't have problem with taking a open jumper. Too much bashing Parker on here, when its the horrible defense that people need to be bitching about.

When he steps up and takes a big shot it's interpreted as him being selfish. When he defers to his teammates it's taken as him wilting under the pressure of big moments and not being a leader.
Even if he makes a big shot, it's just assumed that it's a shot he should have made, as if he's due.
There's rarely a situation where he has the blessing of Spurs fan.

To this day I see Spurs fans say his Finals MVP was meaningless because it was against the Cavs.

He could cure a blind Spurs fan but then the Spurs fan would complain because his vision wasn't perfect 20/20.

[ElNono]

:cry

"everyone knows 29 year old Tony Parker can't hit wide open 15-foot J's anymore. "

:cry

:lol timvp making thread about Tony's "illments"...

but it's just me that's :cry

:lol

[jag]

What do you want to know, specifically?

I want to know where you want Manu to cum on you.

[ElNono]

I want to know where you want Manu to cum on you.

:lol why are you mad? was it the realization your boi Bonner sucks?

Nobody in this team is immune to criticism... that includes Tony

[jag]

:lol timvp making thread about Tony's "illments"...

but it's just me that's :cry

:lol

The guy who regularly disagrees with timvp is all the sudden pimping him as Spurstalk's version of Tim Tebow.

:cry

"timvp is so right about everything all the sudden because I'm mad at Tony!! He's such a Messiah he had everyone thinking 'Illments' was a word"

:cry

[mexicanjunior]

I want to know where you want Manu to cum on you.

:lol

You resort to 5th grade posting in a hurry...

[Cane]

Parker's turnovers remain a concern. Also didn't like that he spent time arguing with the officials as the Bucks ran down the court.

Parker can knockdown that clutch jumper but didn't happen. Didn't like that he threw a few late passes but that Blair pass was a sick highlight.

Overall execution by the Spurs left a lot to be desired. Tony Parker is going to have to find his scoring groove. There were flashes of vintage Parker/Duncan duo but tired legs (and bad calls) caught up in the end.

Not that concerned early in the season, I liked Parker's energy, gotta hone it, and he's going to have plenty of opportunities to get back in rhythm with TJ Ford sidelined too :(

But holy mother fucking shit there's another god damn game tomorrow night. What a fucking season

[Brazil]

I thought our offensive execution to close the game was pathetic, and that included (what I deemed) a poor, hurried jumper by tony, a turnover by tim (bad call, but I don't think it was avoidable) and another turnover by tony (bad call, but I thought it could've been avoided).

Let me say it one more time because it's the third time I say it, but it doesn't seem to register: I thought Tony played a good game overall.

I know you said tp had good game... I just thought your takes about manu funny... but I get your point.

Once again I didn't see the game but from what I've read in the game blog there are some encouraging things to take from this game. TP had apparently a good overall game except for the TOs and the clutch but he scored and we need that, Tim seems to had a nice game, Leonard seems to be for real...

[jag]

:lol why are you mad? was it the realization your boi Bonner sucks?

Nobody in this team is immune to criticism... that includes Tony

No one else in the League looks as good in New Balances as Matt Bonner does. But he has nothing to do with this.

There's "criticism"... and then there's what regularly goes on here.

[ElNono]

The guy who regularly disagrees with timvp is all the sudden pimping him as Spurstalk's version of Tim Tebow.

:cry

"timvp is so right about everything all the sudden because I'm mad at Tony!! He's such a Messiah he had everyone thinking 'Illments' was a word"

:cry

tbh, I had my disagreements with timvp, but "regularly disagrees"? :lmao

You're clearly mad that somebody criticized your new boi Parker. Why?

:lol _Jag wrong bout Ginger

[jag]

:lol

You resort to 5th grade posting in a hurry...

One of the many differences between you and me is that when I post like a 5th grader, I do it intentionally.

[ElNono]

I know you said tp had good game... I just thought your takes about manu funny... but I get your point.

Once again I didn't see the game but from what I've read in the game blog there are some encouraging things to take from this game. TP had apparently a good overall game except for the TOs and the clutch but he scored and we need that, Tim seems to had a nice game, Leonard seems to be for real...

He had a stretch in the 2nd quarter also where he sucked, tbh. But overall he had a good game. Jennings really wasn't a factor until pretty much the end.

But what do I know... I*HATE* Tony Parker!!!!! He cost us the game!!!

[J_Paco]

This isn't 2008 Tony Parker anymore...

Yeah, it's 2012 and Manu is hurt again leaving Tony as the only guy that can create his own offense. Y'all are getting ridiculously sad with the constant Tony Parker bashing and hate.

When he creates for his teammates and struggles offensively, he sucks. When he's attacking, scoring and creating offense for Timmy and others but forcing passes leading to turnovers, he sucks. The poor guy can't with some of you.

When will y'all understand that Tony and Manu play off of each other perfectly, and don't have this petty attitude y'all have? I doubt they would be nearly as successful without one another.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol

Wow how can you guys harp on Tony's defense. He was running around like a madman all game chasing Jennings through screen after screen. Jennings hit some very tough shots. Tony played well enough for our team to win, but defensively everyone outside of Tim, Tony, and Leonard (kind of) played like complete dogshit, especially Blair. The TOs for Tony were a problem this game, but he attacked the pain relentlessly and looked for his teammates.

Many of you are getting pathetic with the Tony bashing. It's as if you don't understand how basketball works, let alone the offensive scheme for the Spurs...

If our team shoots about 60% for the game, and Tony is hounding Jennings all game, then it's a good bet that we didn't lose because he made a few turnovers at the end. Idiots.

:tu

[mexicanjunior]

One of the many differences between you and me is that when I post like a 5th grader, I do it intentionally.

Your commitment to it is commendable then...congrats. :toast

[callo1]

When he steps up and takes a big shot it's interpreted as him being selfish. When he defers to his teammates it's taken as him wilting under the pressure of big moments and not being a leader.
Even if he makes a big shot, it's just assumed that it's a shot he should have made, as if he's due.
There's rarely a situation where he has the blessing of Spurs fan.

To this day I see Spurs fans say his Finals MVP was meaningless because it was against the Cavs.

He could cure a blind Spurs fan but then the Spurs fan would complain because his vision wasn't perfect 20/20.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Agree 100%

What do TP and CPS have in common?

Answer: They are both damned if they do and damned if they don't

[jag]

tbh, I had my disagreements with timvp, but "regularly disagrees"? :lmao

You're clearly mad that somebody criticized your new boi Parker. Why?

:lol _Jag wrong bout Ginger

I can only hope you're joking about Bonner. I have always disliked Bonner.

And Parker isn't my "new" boi. That shit's old news. In fact, I have a six-cd changer in my car... but I don't even need it. I only keep one CD in there, son. That's right, It's Tony's debut album.

[ElNono]

Yeah, it's 2012 and Manu is hurt again leaving Tony as the only guy that can create his own offense. Y'all are getting ridiculously sad with the constant Tony Parker bashing and hate.

:lol You can ask that TP homer Brazil over there, and he can tell you I don't "hate" anybody. I think some people are over sensitive these days when it comes to criticizing him after Tony received some rightly undeserved criticism in this place.

[MannyIsGod]

And for those of you bringing up Manu, he's clutch, but don't act like he's never fucked up in late game situations.

1OmE3B-s8ow

[ElNono]

I can only hope you're joking about Bonner. I have always disliked Bonner.

I thought you were a fan. Shows how much I pay attention to your posts :lol


And Parker isn't my "new" boi. That shit's old news. In fact, I have a six-cd changer in my car... but I don't even need it. I only keep one CD in there, son. That's right, It's Tony's debut album.

:lol that was funny right there

[ElNono]

brb, I gotta go disagree with timvp

[GSH]

Heh... it's pretty much inevitible on game nights. The beer buzzes wear off, and people start sounding like Jack Nicholson in The Shining.

[ElNono]

And for those of you bringing up Manu, he's clutch, but don't act like he's never fucked up in late game situations.

1OmE3B-s8ow

Manny, Manny... never said that. All I said is that he doesn't dribble and dribble like a maniac in closing situations like that.

[cantthinkofanything]

To this day I see Spurs fans say his Finals MVP was meaningless because it was against the Cavs.


bullshit. who says that?

[J_Paco]

Parker's turnovers remain a concern. Also didn't like that he spent time arguing with the officials as the Bucks ran down the court.

Parker can knockdown that clutch jumper but didn't happen. Didn't like that he threw a few late passes but that Blair pass was a sick highlight.

Overall execution by the Spurs left a lot to be desired. Tony Parker is going to have to find his scoring groove. There were flashes of vintage Parker/Duncan duo but tired legs (and bad calls) caught up in the end.

Not that concerned early in the season, I liked Parker's energy, gotta hone it, and he's going to have plenty of opportunities to get back in rhythm with TJ Ford sidelined too :(

But holy mother fucking shit there's another god damn game tomorrow night. What a fucking season


What turnover concern? He's having his best assist-to-turnover ratio of his career. Obviously, losing Manu and possibly Ford will hurt his chances of sustaining thay but he's been playing like great floor general. He made poor decisions with the ball, but the game was more so lost on the defensive end.

[jag]

I'm waiting for someone to start a thread called "Manu The Glass Man". It won't get made though because Manu's a fierce Argentine warrior!

[jag]

And for those of you bringing up Manu, he's clutch, but don't act like he's never fucked up in late game situations.

1OmE3B-s8ow

That's nothing compared to Tony taking an open 15-footer tonight in the closing minutes. Selfish bastard

[ElNono]

I'm waiting for someone to start a thread called "Manu The Glass Man". It won't get made though because Manu's a fierce Argentine warrior!

Who's stopping you? BTW, that thread has been made before, including the trade Manu threads... You couldn't miss them when he had that stress fracture in 2009...

[ElNono]

That's nothing compared to Tony taking an open 15-footer tonight in the closing minutes. Selfish bastard

Do you really want to compare Tony and Manu closing games? :lmao

[DPG21920]

The guy who regularly disagrees with timvp is all the sudden pimping him as Spurstalk's version of Tim Tebow.

:cry

"timvp is so right about everything all the sudden because I'm mad at Tony!! He's such a Messiah he had everyone thinking 'Illments' was a word"

:cry

I don't think any non-GNSF are mad at TP. I don't always agree with Timvp, but guys like Manny are quick to jump on people (like myself) that have a valid opinion on TP this year. I agree with Timvp on this, but people want to add to what my argument was and take away from the point I actually make. The opinion is that he hasn't been himself in a time where the team desperately needs him to be his best. The fact is that his numbers are in line with someone who has declined. That's all.

[Cane]

What turnover concern? He's having his best assist-to-turnover ratio of his career. Obviously, losing Manu and possibly Ford will hurt his chances of sustaining thay but he's been playing like great floor general. He made poor decisions with the ball, but the game was more so lost on the defensive end.

Yea actually I take that turnover concern back, that Grizz series was too small of a sample size.

But yea I liked Parker's energy and overall effort. There were a few bad plays from Tony, like his late passes and when he was talking to the officials rather than trying to play, but I think he's finding rhythm and alleviated some scoring concerns.

Spurs could've had this game but as a team their overall execution left a lot to be desired.

[jag]

I don't think any non-GNSF are mad at TP. I don't always agree with Timvp, but guys like Manny are quick to jump on people (like myself) that have a valid opinion on TP this year. I agree with Timvp on this, but people want to add to what my argument was and take away from the point I actually make. The opinion is that he hasn't been himself in a time where the team desperately needs him to be his best. The fact is that his numbers are in line with someone who has declined. That's all.

:lol I can't even keep a straight face with you anymore. I refuse to get sucked in.

[GSH]

What turnover concern? He's having his best assist-to-turnover ratio of his career. Obviously, losing Manu and possibly Ford will hurt his chances of sustaining thay but he's been playing like great floor general. He made poor decisions with the ball, but the game was more so lost on the defensive end.


He entered the game tonight with the best AST/TO ratio in the league. I'm sure the 7 turnovers he had tonight won't help that, but it's not like TO's were a problem in the first 9 games.

[DPG21920]

:lol I can't even keep a straight face with you anymore. I refuse to get sucked in.

You are just being an idiot tbh. I don't get what is so damn hard for you to get. Was what I said wrong? Was I hating on TP. Did I not provide stats to back up my opinion and did I not qualify my opinion with the fact it was early in the year to draw a definitive conclusion?

[J_Paco]

Manny, Manny... never said that. All I said is that he doesn't dribble and dribble like a maniac in closing situations like that.

Which is complete bullshit and you know it. Ginobili has gotten stripped, tooking ill-advised shots and made dumb fouls just as much as Tony, if not more in the clutch. Peoplee around here act like Ginobili's infallible or a mix between Reggie Miller, Michael Jordan and Jerry West in the clutch.

Its just that people around here like to gloss over that, suck Manu's cock and balls, and gripe about Tony when he screws up. If Tony had made that foul against Dirk or had Fisher knock down 0.4 over him, then he would never hear the end of it. Thankfully, I don't think average Spur fans have a stupid agenda against him like Spurstalk.

[jag]

Do you really want to compare Tony and Manu closing games? :lmao

Nah. That's like a 4-hour argument right there.

[jag]

You are just being an idiot tbh. I don't get what is so damn hard for you to get. Was what I said wrong? Was I hating on TP. Did I not provide stats to back up my opinion and did I not qualify my opinion with the fact it was early in the year to draw a definitive conclusion?

You made a great case, da point guard. Go bother Manny

For the record, I didn't completely disagree with you. I was just lol'ing because You'll turn this into an all-night thing.

[DPG21920]

I get why gheys like Jag and Manny are sensitive to TP; the idiot haters are annoying. But they act like GNSF themselves with their arguments they apply to everyone when that simply isn't the case. Manu gets plenty of hate. It's dumb. But there are valid criticisms for him. Same with TP.

[jag]

Let's not pretend like the hate that goes on here for those two players is proportional.

[ElNono]

Which is complete bullshit and you know it. Ginobili has gotten stripped, tooking ill-advised shots and made dumb fouls just as much as Tony, if not more in the clutch.

No


Peoplee around here act like Ginobili's infallible or a mix between Reggie Miller, Michael Jordan and Jerry West in the clutch.

It's not just here. He's widely regarded as one of the top closers in the game today. Doesn't mean he *NEVER* makes mistakes. All closers did at one time or another, including the ones you listed above.

[ElNono]

Let's not pretend like the hate that goes on here for those two players is proportional.

So the inbalance of "hate" is what bothers you? :lol

We go through this every season. Manu plays balls out and people hate on Tony. Due to playing balls out, Manu gets injured, people hate on him (:madrun he shouldn't have played on the NT team). Tony picks up the slack and furthers the fuel on Manu hating. Manu comes back and we start the cycle again.

[ElNono]

I get why gheys like Jag and Manny are sensitive to TP; the idiot haters are annoying. But they act like GNSF themselves with their arguments they apply to everyone when that simply isn't the case. Manu gets plenty of hate. It's dumb. But there are valid criticisms for him. Same with TP.

IMO, it's the trolling from people like cheguevara and triggeredexcelsiorwhatever that drives them up a wall...

[Nathan Explosion]

When talking about the last TO by Parker, you're missing a very important aspect to the game. Jennings fouls him and gets the no call, fine. But he gambled and got lucky. If Jennings misses, there is NOBODY in the lane to keep Parker from a layup. It was actually a good decision. Jennings made a good play.

For the Parker haters, ask yourselves this: If the Spits trade Parker, who plays the point and/or who do you realistically get in return?

Neal is not the answer ( look at the game again ) and Ford is not the answer and injured. So who replaces Parker? The only even remotely possible player is Nash that would acceptable. Except the Suns aren't trading Nash, and if by some miracle they do, you just created a long term problem by getting another older player who will retire very soon.

[J_Paco]

I get why gheys like Jag and Manny are sensitive to TP; the idiot haters are annoying. But they act like GNSF themselves with their arguments they apply to everyone when that simply isn't the case. Manu gets plenty of hate. It's dumb. But there are valid criticisms for him. Same with TP.

Yeah, no player should be above criticism. Yet, it should be within reason and made with a understanding of the current team and personnal.

Its sad when people with obvious agendas are the first to complain and harp on Parker. Duncan and Ginobili don't catch nearly as much heat and hatred from the fanbase here. None of them are perfect, yet not one person has complained about Timmy picking up that late charge call.

[timvp]

The CoM is happiest when the Spurs win and Manu plays great. But close second in the CoM happiness scale is when the Spurs lose without Manu and Parker plays poorly in the clutch. That is pure gold for CoM.

The joy is literally palpable.

[jag]

When talking about the last TO by Parker, you're missing a very important aspect to the game. Jennings fouls him and gets the no call, fine. But he gambled and got lucky. If Jennings misses, there is NOBODY in the lane to keep Parker from a layup. It was actually a good decision. Jennings made a good play.

I actually mentioned this a few pages back. Might have been hard to pick up on during the ranting and raving.

[cantthinkofanything]

Let's not pretend like the hate that goes on here for those two players is proportional.

it's proportional to their quality of play

[jag]

it's proportional to their quality of play

Oh, are you still posting?

[cantthinkofanything]

Oh, are you still posting?

yes. Kori shut down my thread where I objectively graded the Spurs. so I'm back here

[jag]

yes. Kori shut down my thread where I objectively graded the Spurs. so I'm back here

Yeah, I saw that. You were on quite a roll there for a second.

[DPG21920]

Jag, do you look like Birdman? I can only imagine people looking like their avatars.

[cantthinkofanything]

Yeah, I saw that. You were on quite a roll there for a second.

Yeah. On a positive note, it looks like my prediction of Arenas having a better season than Parker will come to fruition.

[jag]

Jag, do you look like Birdman? I can only imagine people looking like their avatars.

Spitting image. Well... I do more meth than he does so I probably look a little more white-trashy.

I'm talking about the current version, Birdman 2.0. Not the younger, less tatted version.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4148/5071547795_1868ceab9f.jpg

[ElNono]

For the Parker haters, ask yourselves this: If the Spits trade Parker, who plays the point and/or who do you realistically get in return?

You mean we're not getting Deron Williams and Dwight Howard for TP?

[ElNono]

The CoM is happiest when the Spurs win and Manu plays great. But close second in the CoM happiness scale is when the Spurs lose without Manu and Parker plays poorly in the clutch. That is pure gold for CoM.

The joy is literally palpable.

IMO, the party the CoM organized after the OKC loss was the best yet...

[jag]

IMO, the party we organized after the OKC loss was the best yet...

Yeah, that was wild.

[ElNono]

Yeah, that was wild.

you still mad? :lol

[cantthinkofanything]

sorry...what's "CoM"?

[jag]

you still mad? :lol

I'm starting to cool off a little. I won't lie... I had a drink or two during the game. And then I flipped my shit when I saw this damn predictable thread.

[ElNono]

I'm starting to cool off a little. I won't lie... I had a drink or two during the game. And then I flipped my shit when I saw this damn predictable thread.

Hmm... good idea... I have one of these from christmas...

http://gearpatrol.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/patron-xo-cafe1.jpg

Ima gonna go get a shot...

[DPG21920]

Jag, do you look like whomever that is in your avatar? I can only imagine people looking like their avatars.

[jag]

Jag, do you look like whomever that is in your avatar? I can only imagine people looking like their avatars.

Clark Gable? Yeah, spitting image. Well... I do more meth than he did so I probably look a little more white-trashy.

[DPG21920]

Clark Gable, that's who it is.

[SequSpur]

church of manu...

[cantthinkofanything]

church of manu...

gracias

[SequSpur]

gracias

Right on..

[FkLA]

CoP people calling out CoM people is pretty rich tbh.

I dont think anyone denied the fact that Parker had a solid overall game. Most peoples problem is with the fact that he managed the final minutes of tonights game horribly, on par with what hes done often in his career as hes one of the worst game managing PGs in the NBA. His mentality is almost always set on scoring rather than finding the easiest shot for the team. Combine that with his lack of a solid jumpshot and it makes him a below average closer.

[Josepatches_]

Tp didn't play well tonight.He scored much better but he had 7 to and that's unacceptable coming of your PG.Plus really bad plays at the end.

I can't see the point at being mad about this.I think Timvp's grade is too low but overall it wasn't a good game from Tony.That's clear.

He will bounce back.We need him to play better.That's all


PS: Please no more Manu vs TP

[cantthinkofanything]

The problem is that when Tony's scoring, no one else is getting involved except maybe Timmy. I'm not sure how many of his assists were to TD making the top of the key shot but if our offense revolves around those two having to hit mid-range shots, we're fucked.

[timvp]

Tbh, Parker sucked.

Good ol' fashion TP vs. Manu thread. Hadn't had one of these in a while.

Nice work :tu

[ElNono]

:madrun

[Ice009]

:lol Manu has racked up countless turnovers in the clutch by over-dribbling and trying to be a hero. Just because he's sitting on the bench healing his brittle bones right now doesn't mean he's flawless.


lol Has Manu ever heard of MILK? WTF does he drink at home? Straight bourbon? I wonder if the Spurs have him taking anything to increase bone strength with all the bones he's broken.

[ElNono]

^ Mootopia. Didn't you see the commercials? :rolleyes

[DeadlyDynasty]

Spurs fans are the biggest b*aner faggots on the planet

sigworthy:tu

[Ice009]

^ Mootopia. Didn't you see the commercials? :rolleyes

Nope, don't have access to US TV. Adds are blocked out on ILPB.

[ElNono]

Nope, don't have access to US TV. Adds are blocked out on ILPB.

ovc4O63Gb2E

[spurs10]

The Big 3 better not quit their day jobs!

[will_spurs]

Difference between CoP and CoM is that CoP members would rather see the Spurs win, regardless of circumstances.

[sonic21]

tony is average this year, he should be criticized. But blaming him for his general clutchness and turnovers because of one game. I guess the 9 games before were flukes.

[DMC]

Game to game chicken little fans are hilarious.

[cantthinkofanything]

tony is average this year, he should be criticized. But blaming him for his general clutchness and turnovers because of one game. I guess the 9 games before were flukes.

I blame Parker for his mental mistakes. I blame the FO for letting him run the offense.

[elec99]

That TP TO was a foul that didnt get called. No way is Jennings arm long enough to tap the ball out, he mustve hit Parker's elbow. Sometimes it gets called, sometimes it doesnt.
Either way, close game without manu, maybe ford would've made a difference, who knows, just can't lose tonight. Houston is on their b to b as well, no excuses tonight.

[xmas1997]

Don't we have enough TP threads already??????????????????????

[Horse]

Did you even see the replay of where he turned the ball over?? His arm was slapped from behind. Jennings didn't even touch the ball.
Thank you! It's about time someone said it. And the offensive foul on Timmy was just awful.

[cantthinkofanything]

Thank you! It's about time someone said it. And the offensive foul on Timmy was just awful.

Regardless of that play, Parker sucked. The stats don't tell the whole store about how at times, he just kills the offensive flow. Tony and Timmy trying to run a pick and roll which usually now turns into Tony stepping back and taking a jump shot. All this while the other three guys stand aroudn watching.

I didn't like the call on Timmy. But it could have gone either way. He extended his arm some which made it look worse. Nothing the Spurs haven't benefitted from before.

[Dex]

I recorded the game on DVR last night and watched it late. At some point while watching, I opened SpursTalk (habit) and saw this thread on the main page. Trying to avoid spoilers, I didn't open the thread or come into the Spurs forum, but I assumed a thread like this meant the Spurs had won.

As the minutes wound down the Spurs got down by 7 with 3:30 left, I was wondering what kind of magic Parker was going to pull out.

Needless to say, I was highly surprised and disappointed when RJs three didn't go in.

Goddamn you, sarcasm.

[portnoy1]

Now you know why Manu gets the ball at the end of games
Now thats a post that the parker-lovers will have to eat.

[portnoy1]

I blame Parker for his mental mistakes. I blame the FO for letting him run the offense.
That's why I been screaming for Pop to run the flex offense. In Utah Jerry sloan ran that offense and was to cover over players offensive limitations (non shooters). Someone like RJ could score 17pts a night with out jacking up one 3. And parker would be racking up double double with low turnovers and a high fg%.

But if you wanna build around a score first point guard thats what you get.

[cantthinkofanything]

I recorded the game on DVR last night and watched it late. At some point while watching, I opened SpursTalk (habit) and saw this thread on the main page. Trying to avoid spoilers, I didn't open the thread or come into the Spurs forum, but I assumed a thread like this meant the Spurs had won.

As the minutes wound down the Spurs got down by 7 with 3:30 left, I was wondering what kind of magic Parker was going to pull out.

Needless to say, I was highly surprised and disappointed when RJs three didn't go in.

Goddamn you, sarcasm.

:lol Sorry. But that is funny thinking of you waiting around for some Parker magic.

[portnoy1]

I recorded the game on DVR last night and watched it late. At some point while watching, I opened SpursTalk (habit) and saw this thread on the main page. Trying to avoid spoilers, I didn't open the thread or come into the Spurs forum, but I assumed a thread like this meant the Spurs had won.

As the minutes wound down the Spurs got down by 7 with 3:30 left, I was wondering what kind of magic Parker was going to pull out.

Needless to say, I was highly surprised and disappointed when RJs three didn't go in.

Goddamn you, sarcasm.
In all honesty, If you see a thread that says something good about parker it usually is sarcasm. Parker doesn't get much credit around here, not saying that he deserves alot but just being truthful.

[Cane]

28 pts, 8 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 turnovers, over 50% FG, over 45 mins on a back to back

Well done Parker :toast

[gospursgojas]

28 pts, 8 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 turnovers, over 50% FG, over 45 mins on a back to back

Well done Parker :toast

This.

Eff the haters.

[will_spurs]

Just checking in to see which ideas Parker haters are going to come up with today to bash him. I personally think he was a bit sloppy on the FT shooting, and a true warrior would have had at least a couple of blocks.

[FkLA]

Just checking in to see which ideas Parker haters are going to come up with today to bash him. I personally think he was a bit sloppy on the FT shooting, and a true warrior would have had at least a couple of blocks.

Get off his dick. If he played like this all the time I dont think anyone would have a problem with him but Im sure even a CoP member like yourself can recognize that he doesnt always do that.

[romain.star]

28 pts, 8 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 turnovers, over 50% FG, over 45 mins on a back to back

Well done Parker :toast

What strikes me on ST is how volatile the jugement towards Parker is. After one bad game, he's a selfish scrub. After one good game, he's an allstar again.

11 games only people... Players like Parker have proven enough in this league not to be judge on such a small sample

[Fireball]

May this Tony Parker please stand up at least every two games !!!

[xmas1997]

In his defense Sean said TP had a bruised leg, which one I didn't hear.

[jcrod]

Get off his dick. If he played like this all the time I dont think anyone would have a problem with him but Im sure even a CoP member like yourself can recognize that he doesnt always do that.

Its called sarcasm.

It doesn't matter, as soon as he plays another bad game. They'll start at it again, TP can never win with idiot spurs fan. Manu can do no wrong and tony sucks, always been that way with those posers and always will be.

Tony wins finals mvp, haters.......he shot too much, manu should've won, duncan should've won. Pift.....

[will_spurs]

Its called sarcasm.

I guess I should have written it in blue just for Hill's lover.

[smeagol]

CoP fucking cry babies . . .

[DAF86]

lol at blaming Parker for the Bucks game

P/S: Kori, JaG, Brazil please remember me at least one time where Manu turned the ball over by overdribbling it (and I'm not talking about just at the end of games).

Manu takes stupid stepback threes, he tries to squeeze an impossible pass between three oponents, fouls rivals on layups while winning by three but he never ever ever overdribbles.

[ElNono]

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[jjktkk]

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[timvp]

Manu takes stupid stepback threes, he tries to squeeze an impossible pass between three oponents, fouls rivals on layups while winning by three but he never ever ever overdribbles.

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If Manu would have stopped putting on a dribbling exhibition for a second and passed it to a wind open Parker, TP could have missed the three-pointer and the game could have been over.

Seriously though, I agree that Ginobili isn't an overdribbler ... partly because he's not a superb ballhandler against pressure. He's a great ballhandler when knifing toward the basket but he doesn't handle the ball well enough to bring it up against consistent pressure.

The last time the Spurs had Ginobili bring up the ball in the playoffs for any length of time, it was the turnover spree against the Hornets in 2008.

Both CoP and CoM don't have much room talking about turnovers in the clutch. Both players have had their share over the years.

[FkLA]

I guess I should have written it in blue just for Hill's lover.

That wasnt simply sarcasm, it was more like a passive aggressive shot at the 'Parker haters'. It was just a retarded post on your part tbh...noone would hate him if he put up 28 pts, 8 assts, on 50% shooting consistently. But hes never done that, especially not this season.

[mathbzh]

noone would hate him if he put up 28 pts, 8 assts, on 50% shooting consistently. But hes never done that, especially not this season.

22/7 in 2008-2008 was not too shabby (24/7.5 52% post ASG).

And for information only 3 players in history did have 28/8/50% seasons:
Jordan 32.5/8.0/54% in 40MPG
Lebron 29.7/8.9/50% 39 MPG
Oscar Robertson 28.3/9.5/52% 44MPG

[FkLA]

It doesn't matter, as soon as he plays another bad game. They'll start at it again, TP can never win with idiot spurs fan. Manu can do no wrong and tony sucks, always been that way with those posers and always will be.

Tony wins finals mvp, haters.......he shot too much, manu should've won, duncan should've won. Pift.....

The hate isnt completely unfounded imo, theres alot of reasons why he isnt a likeable player. He is (or was I guess) one of the best at what he does which is being a scoring PG...but he doesnt have the vision to consistently find teammates, or if he has it hes just reluctant to use it. Thats my biggest problem with him, he just doesnt maximize teammates talents. Then you add other shit like his loose demeanor out on the court (someone compared him to Romo in that sense which I agree with) and his inability to develop a good jumpshot and I just cant help but dislike that little French faggot. Still give him his props when he plays well though.

Manu is the complete opposite, thats why we all love him. Plus he speaks Spanish too. :)



22/7 in 2008-2008 was not too shabby (24/7.5 52% post ASG).

And for information only 3 players in history did have 28/8/50% seasons:
Jordan 32.5/8.0/54% in 40MPG
Lebron 29.7/8.9/50% 39 MPG
Oscar Robertson 28.3/9.5/52% 44MPG

I dont think he got much hate that season did he? I even recall people calling the Spurs his team during that period.

[mathbzh]

I dont think he got much hate that season did he? I even recall people calling the Spurs his team during that period.

I think there was still some haters.


By the way and since you talked about consistency.
Do you know how many player have had at least 4 season with 15+/5+/50%+ seasons in the NBA history?
Only 8... and not the worse:

Magic (8),
Jordan, Nash (6),
Bird (5),
Wilt, Parker, Stockton, Westphal (4)

I would still rank Duncan (Obviously) and Ginobili higher than Parker.
But people should realise how consistent Parker has been for the Spurs.

[DAF86]

FdlsL9aytds

If Manu would have stopped putting on a dribbling exhibition for a second and passed it to a wind open Parker, TP could have missed the three-pointer and the game could have been over.

Seriously though, I agree that Ginobili isn't an overdribbler ... partly because he's not a superb ballhandler against pressure. He's a great ballhandler when knifing toward the basket but he doesn't handle the ball well enough to bring it up against consistent pressure.

The last time the Spurs had Ginobili bring up the ball in the playoffs for any length of time, it was the turnover spree against the Hornets in 2008.

Both CoP and CoM don't have much room talking about turnovers in the clutch. Both players have had their share over the years.

I was expecting someone to post that play. C'mon timvp you know that's not overdribling it, he's just killing time as I'm sure it was the instruction and then he lost the ball when he made his move to the basket. That's not overdribbling it by any means.

And I agree that Manu has many fuckups during the clutch, but not by overdribbling it. That's the only thing I'm arguing.

[will_spurs]

And I agree that Manu has many fuckups during the clutch, but not by overdribbling it. That's the only thing I'm arguing.

I agree that arguing Manu and overdribbling is below the belt, especially when there's enough in the "dumb foul" category...

[Mel_13]

I agree that arguing Manu and overdribbling is below the belt, especially when there's enough in the "dumb foul" category...

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[Pauleta14]

i would still rank duncan (obviously) and ginobili higher than parker.
But people should realise how consistent parker has been for the spurs.

+1

[Brazil]

well done indeed

[ElNono]

Too many turnovers, tbh... (i'm kidding, jeez)

[Brazil]

Too many turnovers, tbh... (i'm kidding, jeez)

:lol

[manufan10]

:lmao Parker haters

[Brazil]

tbh fwiw

4:1576-86SATony Parker made 1st of 2 Free Throws4:1576-87SATony Parker made 2nd of 2 Free Throws4:08 PORLost ball turnover on Gerald Wallace, Stolen by Tony Parker4:0276-89SATony Parker made Layup3:50 PORLost ball turnover on LaMarcus Aldridge, Stolen by Kawhi Leonard3:3776-91SATony Parker made Jump Shot3:37 PORFull Timeout3:2378-91PORLaMarcus Aldridge made Layup3:10 PORPersonal foul on Raymond Felton3:1078-92SATony Parker made 1st of 2 Free Throws3:1078-93SATony Parker made 2nd of 2 Free Throws

[therealtruth]

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That turnover probably cost the Spurs the championship in '06. They wasted too much energy getting by the Kings while Dallas swept easily and was waiting. Then Manu's foul in game 7 sealed the deal.

[Brazil]

:tu

[DesignatedT]

yup yup

[ElNono]

no hero shots in the crunch today :tu







:lol

[Pauleta14]

Well done by a (supposely?) injured TP...

It could have been 2Opts - 2O ast .... easy!

[Sean Cagney]

That turnover probably cost the Spurs the championship in '06. They wasted too much energy getting by the Kings while Dallas swept easily and was waiting. Then Manu's foul in game 7 sealed the deal.

Come on man Barrys shot in game 2 stole the game, that was not meant to go in as this was not meant to as well :lol:lol, eye for an eye.

[Brazil]

great thread tbh fwiw