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timvp
06-17-2005, 05:14 PM
A rumor has run rampant in this forum for over a year now. Until this time, I haven't double checked the accuracy of the rumor. The rumor was perpetuated by Whottt and given that Whottt is such an articulate poster, I always assumed it was true. I've seen many other posters here make mention of the rumor and it as factual.

Here is what I'm talking about:


Good times for Devin = Bad Time for the Spurs.


My point is that Devin didn't make a difference....just like last year he didn't make a difference


Yeah but the point I am making is...for an energy guy who is supposed to bring so much to the team with his hustle...

Devin Brown never changes the momentum of the game and the other guy never feed off of it...it's like he plays in a vacume.


I am not blaming Brown for the fucking loss...I am just pointing out he's not the game changing hero the entire board seems to think he is. He isn't. He has the attitude to do it and the energy level...but it doesn't translate


What I don't love about him is that his best games always seem to be our worst losses...I can't pretend the connection isn't there.

And I don't see the other guys playing better because of his big games...it's almost like they just sit around and go...whatever.

Maybe it's because we need someone who is going to get them back into the game and not play on an island.

So basically what Whottt has said and others have followed is that even though Devin Brown played well in the Lakers series last year, him playing well did nothing for the Spurs. He even goes on to say that the Spurs play worse when Devin plays well.

The rumor turns out to be false.

After going back and looking to see what Devin did last year in the playoffs against the Lakers, quite the opposite is true. He was the lone bright spot for the Spurs. He took his game up to a high level and the rest of the team followed him.

Game 1
The Spurs win by 10 points, 88-78. Devin Brown plays 14 minutes and scores eight points. In his 14 minutes on the court, Brown has a +4. That means in the 34 minutes he was on the bench, the Spurs had a +6. Per 48 minutes, Devin had a +13.7. Without Devin, the Spurs had a +8.5. That is a -4.2 with Devin on the bench compared to when he's on the court.

Game 2
The Spurs win this game by 10 points, 95-85. Devin Brown plays 13 minutes and the Spurs are +9 when he's in the game. With him on the bench, they were +1. That means per 48 minutes, the Spurs were +33.2 when Devin was in the game and +1.8 when he was out of the game. That is a difference of 31.4 points.

Game 3
In game three, the Spurs lose 105-81. Despite the complete and utter blowout, Devin brown was only a -2 in his 24 minutes on the court. That means in the other 24 minutes, the Spurs were a -22. For the game, Devin was the team's second leading scorer with 16 points. By the time he went back into the game in the second half, the game was over -- as the Spurs were down by 22 points. Per 48 minutes, the Spurs were a -4 with Devin on the court and -44 with him off the court. That is a 40 point swing with Devin on the bench.

Game 4
In game four, the Spurs lost 98-90. They played well early but faded and ended up losing the game. Devin played 16 minutes, in which the Spurs were outscored by four points. He was a +4 in the first half and a -8 in the third quarter, which also came during the same time period that Tim was resting. Devin didn't play in the fourth quarter. So per 48 minutes, the Spurs were outscored by 12 when Devin was on the court and by 6 when he was off the court. This was the one game that the Spurs were actually better with Devin out of the game. But keep in mind he didn't play at all in the fourth.

Game 5
In the game that every Spurs fan is still trying to forget, the Spurs lost at the buzzer 74-73. Devin was one of the few bright spots for the Spurs, as he scored 11 points in 24 minutes. During the 24 minutes he was on the court, the Spurs were +7. In the 24 minutes he was on the bench, the Spurs were -8. That means per 48 minutes, the Spurs were +14 with Devin in the game and -16 with him out of the game. That a difference of 30 points in Devin's favor.

Game 6
With the Spurs facing an must win game, Devin Brown came up huge again. He had 15 points, six rebounds and three assists in 28 minutes as the Spurs lost 88-76. In those 28 minutes Devin played, the Spurs were +5. In the 20 minutes he was on the bench, the Spurs were -17. Per 48 minutes, the Spurs were +8.6 with Devin in the game and -40.8 with Devin on the sidelines. That's a difference of 49.4 points.



In conclusion, to say that Devin Brown hurt the Spurs when he was on the court against the Lakers is not only baseless but appalling. Devin Brown was the reason the Spurs didn't get destroyed last year in the playoffs. For the series, the Spurs were +19 when Devin was on the court. When Devin wasn't on the court, the Spurs were -44. Extrapolate that to 48 minutes and the Spurs were +149 with Devin on the court. Those are numbers out of this world.

Basically, this myth can't be any more wrong. Not only did Devin help the Spurs last year in the playoffs, he carried them. Without him, the numbers say the Spurs would have been destroyed worse than in 2001. Numbers such as these can't be passed off as fluke. They prove that in big games, Devin has a history of coming up huge.

We saw this last night in game four of the Finals. When all the other Spurs looked like they wanted to take the ball and go home, Devin came in and quickly cut a 17 point lead to 9 points. This isn't another fluke. Though his regular season +/- leave a lot to be desired, the regular season really means nothing to the Spurs. The Spurs are about championships and river parades. When the bright lights shine, Devin shines brightest.

Consider this myth debunked.

samikeyp
06-17-2005, 05:22 PM
whottt to rebunk in 5....4....3....

Spurminator
06-17-2005, 05:25 PM
I don't think this really debunks Whottt's point (or mine that I posted last night) because those games did not translate to victories. Nobody is saying Devin didn't play well in those games, but it just seems like whenever he is brought in ahead of the usual rotation or for more minutes than usual, it's almost like a white flag has been waved.

It's not Devin's fault... it may even be the rest of the team's fault for being unable to adapt to his presence on the floor. But I don't remember the last time he was brought into the Playoff game and it changed the momentum of a sloppy Spurs performance into a victory. It worked with Steve Kerr because he basically had one role: hit the open three. Devin brings a lot more offensive ability to the game, but maybe it's taking other Spurs out of their games.

The Spurs HAVE, more often, been able to right the ship with their usual lineup when they start off sloppy.

tlongII
06-17-2005, 05:26 PM
Who is Devin Brown?

Kori Ellis
06-17-2005, 05:27 PM
I don't think this really debunks Whottt's point (or mine that I posted last night) because those games did not translate to victories. Nobody is saying Devin didn't play well in those games, but it just seems like whenever he is brought in ahead of the usual rotation or for more minutes than usual, it's almost like a white flag has been waved.

It's not Devin's fault... it may even be the rest of the team's fault for being unable to adapt to his presence on the floor. But I don't remember the last time he was brought into the Playoff game and it changed the momentum of a sloppy Spurs performance into a victory. It worked with Steve Kerr because he basically had one role: hit the open three. Devin brings a lot more offensive ability to the game, but maybe it's taking other Spurs out of their games.

The Spurs HAVE, on occasion, been able to right the ship with their usual lineup.

That might be what you are saying. But that's not what Whottt's been saying. Whottt says that when Devin's on the floor, the Spurs are worse -- i.e. their leads shrink, or they go even deeper into a whole than they already are. This definitely proves that is not the case.

Ishta
06-17-2005, 05:27 PM
Who is Devin Brown?


Who are the Trailblazers?

Spurminator
06-17-2005, 05:30 PM
Well, I can't totally speak for Whottt... I didn't read the whole "re-sign Devin" thread.

whottt
06-17-2005, 05:31 PM
LOL man is this where you have been all day? Why you wait until I going out to eat to post this?

Look...I am not blaming Devin for the loss, I don't blame him for last years loss...

but I still claim he doesn't make a difference, that his play seems to have no impact on the teams play as a whole, if anything the team seems to get lost during Devin getting hot... and it's going to take more than moral victories to disprove that..

Devin played well against LA? Never said he didn't...in fact you left out several of my quotes citing what he did individually...the dude shot 66% from 3...that's all you gotta say right there...he was the only guy hitting threes...

But I just don't buy that our entire team suddenly quits except for Devin Brown, as easily as you do...I think there is something there.

I think Devin just plays on Island...no one else is really involved when he has these games. What he does is not within the team framework...criticize Barry all you want but even in his bad games he goes to the stars on this team and he gets them shots or puts them in a position to get going...he defers to the best players instead of trying to do it all by himself.

It's kinda like Malik...Malik used to have some of his best games in losses too...but I've seen Malik alter the outcome of a game...I haven't seen Devin do that.

And I don't buy that what he does can make a difference in this series or lift the teams play back to where it was. I am not in favor of making a wholesale chemistry change because it didn't work last year...and last year looked a whole lot like last night.

It's not Devin's fault...but he's not the solution either...he never has been yet. And we made it this far with basically no contributions from him. Change things up now and you change what got us here...

timvp
06-17-2005, 05:35 PM
I don't think this really debunks Whottt's point (or mine that I posted last night) because those games did not translate to victories.

Look at game one versus the Lakers. When he first came into the game, the Spurs were down. When he left, the Spurs were up by four. That is a game you can say translated to a victory.


Nobody is saying Devin didn't play well in those games, but it just seems like whenever he is brought in ahead of the usual rotation or for more minutes than usual, it's almost like a white flag has been waved.

It's not Devin's fault... it may even be the rest of the team's fault for being unable to adapt to his presence on the floor.

Unable to adapt? How can you say that when he's like +150 for the series? You guys act like he goes into games and goes off scoring wise but the Spurs as a team go down.

The opposite is true. He comes in, plays whatever role is needed ... and the Spurs play better with him on the court. He's not Michael Jordan. If the Spurs are -44 for the series with him off the court, do you and Whottt expect him to erase all 44 points?

The Spurs played much better with him on the court and sucked with him on the bench. I don't know how you two always go to the "rest of the team can't adjust to him" comments. They obviously can, or else they wouldn't play so well with him out there.


But I don't remember the last time he was brought into the Playoff game and it changed the momentum of a sloppy Spurs performance into a victory.

It worked in game one and it would have worked in almost every game if he would have gotten the minutes. With him in the game, the Spurs outscored the Lakers in the series. For a series that the Lakers won by 25 points, that's huge.


It worked with Steve Kerr because he basically had one role: hit the open three. Devin brings a lot more offensive ability to the game, but maybe it's taking other Spurs out of their games.

How is it taking away when the team plays so much better with him on the court?

Answer me this, please.

Fouled Out
06-17-2005, 05:43 PM
Keep Brown, he is one of the last sparks off the bench since Jackson and Daniels.....

timvp
06-17-2005, 05:45 PM
LOL man is this where you have been all day? Why you wait until I going out to eat to post this?

Actually I've been with Kori as she filmed a Roundtable and while she was on ESPN Radio for half an hour.

Thanks for asking :)


Look...I am not blaming Devin for the loss, I don't blame him for last years loss...

but I still claim he doesn't make a difference, that his play seems to have no impact on the teams play as a whole, if anything the team seems to get lost during Devin getting hot[/QUOTE

WTF? Look at the numbers. The Spurs outscored the Lakers by 19 points with Devin in the lineup. How is that "no impact on the team's play"? That makes no sense.

When he was in the game versus the Lakers, the Spurs outscored the Lakers.

Period.

How is that not making a difference? Please let me know.

[QUOTE]Devin played well against LA? Never said he didn't...in fact you left out several of my quotes citing what he did individually...the dude shot 66% from 3...that's all you gotta say right there...he was the only guy hitting threes...

But I just don't buy that our entire team suddenly quits except for Devin Brown, as easily as you do...I think there is something there.

The rest of the team might not quit, but Devin steps up his level of play. Look at the numbers. The Spurs were outscored by 44 points when he was on the bench.

Explain how this happens. You can't say he makes no difference when he was the only person who was making a difference for the Spurs in the series.

You are basically saying you wanted him to outscore the Lakers by a margin so large that he can make up for the sucking that was going on while he was on the bench.


I think Devin just plays on Island...no one else is really involved when he has these games. What he does is not within the team framework...criticize Barry all you want but even in his bad games he goes to the stars on this team and he gets them shots or puts them in a position to get going...he defers to the best players instead of trying to do it all by himself.

Bottomline is the Spurs outscored the Lakers by 19 with Devin in the game. There is nothing more to add to that. When he's on the bench, they sucked. When he played, they played well.

The stats don't lie.


It's kinda like Malik...Malik used to have some of his best games in losses too...but I've seen Malik alter the outcome of a game...I haven't seen Devin do that.

Malik always had a low +/- because he played behind David Robinson and Tim Duncan. So yeah, I agree ... him playing well didn't have much to do with the Spurs winning or losing over the long haul.

But to say Devin didn't have a positive impact in the Lakers series last season is crazy.


And I don't buy that what he does can make a difference in this series or lift the teams play back to where it was. I am not in favor of making a wholesale chemistry change because it didn't work last year...and last year looked a whole lot like last night.

It would have worked last year if the Spurs could have saved themselves from sinking when Devin was out of the game.

Check the numbers.


It's not Devin's fault...but he's not the solution either...he never has been yet. And we made it this far with basically no contributions from him. Change things up now and you change what got us here...

Brent Barry didn't get us here. Get your run of the mill backup two guard on this team and the Spurs would be in the Finals. You act like Brent Barry is the franchise player. He's not -- he's just the human placeholder who sometimes hits threes. He's good at not messing up too bad and hitting shots when wide open. Nothing special, nothing horrible.

Right now the Spurs need something special. And unless you are blind or trying to spin numbers, you have to admit that what Devin did last year was special in the biggest pressure series perhaps in Spurs history.

timvp
06-17-2005, 09:57 PM
And Whottt disappears and everyone who has been referencing this myth as fact doesn't own up.

I'm here all alone now.

:depressed

boutons
06-17-2005, 10:00 PM
sniff sniff :)

E20
06-17-2005, 10:52 PM
What Timvp is basicall trying to say is:

Whottt you dissed my boy so FUCK YOU.

MadDog73
06-17-2005, 11:13 PM
Timvp, I have to ask:

What is the fucking point of this thread?

To me, it sounds like you have a personal vendetta against whottt.

I mean, was it so tempting to start another anti-Berry thread that you felt guilty and had to dig to last year's conference semi-final with the Lakers to come up with some stupid shit that whottt said?

You couldn't find enough current stupid shit?

No offense to whottt, he may be on to something. Hell, when Barry scored 10 points in Game 3 on Tuesday, it didn't help the Spurs either. But I digress.

Why bring this up now, before Game 5, huh? Just curious....

timvp
06-18-2005, 05:02 AM
What Timvp is basicall trying to say is:

Whottt you dissed my boy so FUCK YOU.

Actually not. I don't care about one player more than any other. I want the team to win championships ... bottomline.

When Devin went down with his injury, I said it was good for the team because it forced Pop to make a decision on a backup swingman. I don't care who it is, if they can help the team or have a history of stepping up in big moments -- I want them out there.

timvp
06-18-2005, 05:09 AM
Timvp, I have to ask:

What is the fucking point of this thread?

The point of this thread is to debunk the notion that has been running rampant in this forum for more than a year. Numerous times during that era, posters have referenced the theory that if Devin plays, the team always suffers. As is noted by the first post in this thread, Whottt is one of the main players as far as putting blame on Brown when history shows that none is deserved.

Basically, it comes down to proving false the "If Devin Brown plays, the team's +/- is bad and the Spurs always lose ground" theory.


To me, it sounds like you have a personal vendetta against whottt.

It's not only whottt, there are others who use that myth as fact. If I were to concentrate on proving Whottt wrong, I'd be here all day posting to him because we know how off base he's been lately.


I mean, was it so tempting to start another anti-Berry thread that you felt guilty and had to dig to last year's conference semi-final with the Lakers to come up with some stupid shit that whottt said?

How the heck is this an anti-Barry thread? It's a thread dedicated to proving Devin played well last playoffs and that his play helped the team. Barry wasn't on the team last year, in case you missed that.


You couldn't find enough current stupid shit?

Does your post count? :)


No offense to whottt, he may be on to something. Hell, when Barry scored 10 points in Game 3 on Tuesday, it didn't help the Spurs either. But I digress.

Unfair to Barry.

:smokin


Why bring this up now, before Game 5, huh? Just curious....

There was a lot of talk lately about how Brown is not an option because the Spurs always lose ground in games even if Brown is playing well. Haven't you seen the threads and the posts? I honestly thought they were right just because everyone talks about it as if it were proven.

I just double checked to make sure and lo and behold ... it turns out to be another Whottt lie errrrr "mistake".

gilmor
06-18-2005, 09:04 AM
TIMVP >> Whott

Brodels
06-18-2005, 09:05 AM
I agree with timvp on the myth. It's something that really hasn't been based on anything except what a few people happen to think they're seeing at a particular time. And personally, I haven't seen it. It doesn't look like the Spurs play worse when he's on the floor. Timvp's statistaical analysis, while incomplete, suggests that there may be some truth to his assertion that the Spurs play better when he's on the floor. I can buy that.

But Whotttttttttt's claim that Brown plays on an island is true, at least on the offensive end. Brown doesn't have a very good feel for the game on the offensive end of the floor. He doesn't know when to shoot and when to pass. He doesn't know how to get opportunities for others. He's like Glenn Robinson, but not as bad. Glenn gets the ball, looks to shoot, and moves to another spot to force us a bad shot even if he's guarded closely. Brown always looks to shoot first, but he's more apt to pass the ball if the defense is about to pressure him into a bad shot.

That's not such a terrible thing, I guess. But there are times when a semi-open shot isn't the best shot. Especially if another player is dominating or that shot comes early in the shot clock. Brown doesn't understand when he should shoot and when he should pass. And if he's not shooting and scoring, he's not very useful.

That having been said, he had a good game four. And given that Barry has been dreadful throughout the regular season and playoffs (with the exception of one series), Brown should get some more playing time. He brings energy. He can score the ball. The Spurs need those two things right now.

I don't think he'll ever be much of an NBA player because I just don't think he really gets it, but he'll probably always be able to find a reserve role somewhere in the league. And he's capable of bringing to the table what the Spurs need most. He's more capable of making a difference that Barry is right now on both ends of the court, so Pop should give him some burn.

Karl Mundt
06-18-2005, 10:08 AM
Basically, it comes down to proving false the "If Devin Brown plays, the team's +/- is bad and the Spurs always lose ground" theory.

Basically, your only admitted evidence is last year's series against the Lakers. If you look at the +/- ratings for this season, you will see Devin has the worst +/- rating per minute aswell as the worst combined on court-off court +/- ratings behind marginal players like Wilks, Mohammed, Robinson, Marks and Massenburg. I don't quite see how using the +/- ratings works in favour with trying to prove Devin is a valuable player.

http://www.82games.com/0405SAS.HTM

Devin may have more heart and desire than most players on the team, and that's definitely a valuable commodity in the playoffs, but watching him, i can't really say i disagree with part of what whottt has been saying, in that Devin's good stats don't nesessarily equate to the team as a whole functioning better. He is in my opinion a somewhat selfish player whose primary preoccupation while he's on the court is to try and score and as a result the offense as a whole a lot of times turns stagnant.

whottt
06-18-2005, 03:58 PM
Without forcing myself to research stuff I already know to be true...

I direct you to this thread:

Brent VS Devin: the numbers speak for themselves (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12799&highlight=numbers+speak)

Which examines the impact on team performance of Barry getting minutes VS Devin getting minutes.


And this thread:

Spurs player pairings (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13316&highlight=82games)


Which examines the effectiveness of Spurs players pairings...



The first thread has only been reaffirmed...in that thread I pointed out how Devin seems to pretty much be meaningless to the teams over all performance...

I should note...that thread was made before he had been out 3 months with injury...

What happened after he got injured...and the fact that we now find ourselves in the NBA finals, with him being an afterthought, for the entire playoff run...Only strengthens my argument.


The second thread...If you take look at the white down Devin's line...you will see there is not a single teamate who performs better with Devin on the court...



Make of the info what you will...but I don't hate Devin Brown...and the reasons I have the view on him that I do now is because of what the evidence tells me...

I was just as much of a Devin Brown fan as anyone during the Lakers series last year...and early in this year...but the evidence backing up my point now is very strong...You pretty much can't argue against it.

This doesn't mean Devin can't help the team...it just means he's not the cure all just because he goes out there and looks good.

No doubt Devin puts the energy and desire out...but it has no impact on the play of his teamates...it certainly doesn't fix their performance.


Whereas there is substantial evidence that guys do perform with Barry on the court.

As for his impact on our offense...that's indisputable, that's the beyond question...we are a much better offensive team with Barry on the court and getting minutes.


Devin has the potential to help this team quite a bit and there's no doubt he brings energy...

But simply put, Devin doesn't know how to be a role player at this stage of his career IMO...He's been a star on every team he's ever been on prior to this one...and he hasn't adjusted to being able to make an impact...without going out there and trying to take the game over all by himself.


Barry OTOH has been a sidekick his entire career...he's used to helping the stars perform better....

Different strengths...but if we want to win this series we need Duncan, Manu and Parker performing better and players that will help them do that...not Devin Brown out there trying to take over the game.

whottt
06-18-2005, 04:45 PM
I wanted to say one last thing on this subject...because we've kicked it around all season long...

Normally I rip Pop for not trying the hot hand when we need points...but when it comes to Devin or Brent...Pop needs to shit or get off the pot and stop being wish washy with it...We shouldn't even be having this debate right now but we are...and the main reason we are is because Pop still hasn't decided...it's not helping the team...

If Pop is just going to yank Barry and never let him get into the game because he makes 1 TO or something...then he just needs to go ahead and go with Devin win or lose so the team can find a rhythym...short hooking Barry and giving Devin half the time to be out there hasn't been good for this team all season long...

He just needs to pick his horse and ride it when it comes to these two.

I have a hunch he's going to go with Devin...and when he does that I hope that we win, because that's the most important thing...and I personally could give a fuck how good Devin looks in an embarassing loss. I am not a Devin Brown fan...I am a Spursfan.

timvp
06-18-2005, 08:22 PM
Karl Mundt and Whottt must have missed the part where I said that the regular season doesn't matter. This is the San Antonio Spurs we are talking about. They are in the business of winning championships. I don't care how Devin's +/- is effected by being on the floor during blowouts or how his numbers are skewed because he's usually the one called upon when everyone else has gone into a shell.

I'm talking playoffs. And looking back at last season, Devin came up huge. If you can't admit that by looking at the numbers I have compiled, you are just trying to hold on to the myth that has been clearly debunked.


I wanted to say one last thing on this subject...because we've kicked it around all season long...

Normally I rip Pop for not trying the hot hand when we need points...but when it comes to Devin or Brent...Pop needs to shit or get off the pot and stop being wish washy with it...We shouldn't even be having this debate right now but we are...and the main reason we are is because Pop still hasn't decided...it's not helping the team...

I agree. That's why I said it was good for the team when Devin got hurt because it forced Pop to make a decision.


If Pop is just going to yank Barry and never let him get into the game because he makes 1 TO or something...then he just needs to go ahead and go with Devin win or lose so the team can find a rhythym...short hooking Barry and giving Devin half the time to be out there hasn't been good for this team all season long...

Agreed.


He just needs to pick his horse and ride it when it comes to these two.

Yep.


I personally could give a fuck how good Devin looks in an embarassing loss. I am not a Devin Brown fan...I am a Spursfan.

True. I just want the Spurs to win. I don't care if it's Devin, Barry, GRob, Beno or whoever. Find a player who isn't going to back down and who is willing to step up to the challenge that faces them.

Now I can let this thread die if Whottt and any others who have conspired to spread this myth can admit that during the playoffs, it isn't true that if Devin plays it means the Spurs will suffer.

If this can be agreed upon, the myth can die a peaceful death.

whottt
06-18-2005, 08:28 PM
I don't think Devin is the cause of the suffering, never said it...he's just not the cure IMO. At least...he's not the cure for us being out of rythym on offense...that's my point. S'what I am saying...

If our problem is energy or a 2 or 3 is going off on us...I think Devin can definitely do something there...but when our problem is turnovers and Duncan, Manu and Parker being stuck in neutral...I just don't think he helps that...they need to find themselves when that happens not havw someone come off the bench trying to be an All Star...it may sound funny...but I didn't like it when Malik used to do that either and I am a big Malik fan.

Put it this way...if Devin busts out for 35 points tomorrow in a win...I'll be the happiest guy on the board.

timvp
06-18-2005, 08:32 PM
I don't think Devin is the cause of the suffering, never said it

So are you backing off of your following quotes?


Good times for Devin = Bad Time for the Spurs.


My point is that Devin didn't make a difference....just like last year he didn't make a difference

You (along with others) have said that when Devin plays, the Spurs play worse as a team and pointed to last year against the Lakers as proof. You don't have to admit you were wrong, perhaps admit to being misinformed.

whottt
06-18-2005, 08:45 PM
No I won't admit to that...

I have never said Devin is the cause of the poor play...not once have I said that. The poor play is usually why he gets put in the game...my problem is that it never changes and we never win those games. Whereas I have seen the Spurs go into a funk and work themselves out of it often...including game 1 of this series...without the Devin show.

Look all I am saying is...when the team is playing shitty...bringing Devin in doesn't stop them from playing shitty and they never seem to be able to pull out of playing shitty when we try that...and this includes the playoffs last year...

You can mention +/- and some guy shooting 67% from 3 or what ever he shot is going to help +/-...but +/- means exactly dick if the team doesn't win...W-L is the ultimate stat and it trumps all else...if Barry was shooting 1000% for the season but W-L said other things about him...I wouldn't want his ass on the court.

Call it the Chris Webber effect...and no I am not comparing poor Devin to the suck that is Chris Webber.

The fact is...we started playing shitty against the Lakers...note...I did not say Devin there...Devin was not in the game when they shitty play started...but it never stopped.

Even the .4 game....that was an ugly damn defense oriented game...did either team even hit 80?

He's just not the cure...Spurminator said it well...

I am not saying he causes it...find a quote where I say that...

I have said that his playing may keep the team from regaining it's offensive form..and the reason I say that is because that is what happens....we never regain the momentum..we never win.

Games 1 and 2 VS LA last season were basically routes and the main reason for them was Tony Parker playing like the best guy on the court. Those games were never really in doubt...much like games 1 and 2 VS the Pistons were never really in doubt.

But take a look at game 1 Vs Detroit now that I think about it...the first quarter of that game was brutal...but Pop didn't do anything drastic and the Spurs found their offense...Now take a look at game 4 and see what happened differently.

whottt
06-18-2005, 08:59 PM
The rumor was perpetuated by Whottt and given that Whottt is such an articulate poster, I always assumed it was true. I've seen many other posters here make mention of the rumor and it as factual.

BTW, TImVP...I did extensive research but all my research was based on the regular season...not one playoff series VS the Lakers...so my claims are valid...it's not like I was making the stuff up...I did a lot of research on it. It just wasn't based on the same thing you were basing yours on.

But that still leaves your sample size basically as one playoff series...

Even Jaren Jackson had more than that...and the trend has carried on throughout these playoffs....

Barry's getting fewer minutes than he has in any other series of the playoffs...Our biggest win and highest scoring game was the game he got the most minutes...

Brutalis
06-18-2005, 09:39 PM
Sorry but Brown is a waste of a roster spot.

whottt
06-19-2005, 02:14 AM
I wouldn't call him a waste of a roster spot...

#1. He took a paycut and diminished role to be here(but Barry did too)...

#2. He plays hard and wants to win(and so does Barry)...

#3. He is a San Antonio Spur to the bone...The guy loves the Spurs, probably more than any other guy on our team. He's basically a fan made good.

#4. If you ask me he's got more upside than Stephen Jackson...except for the bad back.

Potentially he's the best SF on our roster...he's a better defender than Barry and he's a better offensive player than Bruce...and he's probably the best rebounder of the 3. He's definitely the best scorer.

I just don't think he's figured out how to be a role player...

The guy is used to being a star on his teams and an MVP type...he was the MVP of the NBDL...of the Summer Pro League...of his college team.

He's just used to being the man and having others play off of him instead of him playing off of them.

If Pop gives Devin the call tomorrow I hope he has a huge game and the Spurs win.

mookie2001
06-19-2005, 02:18 AM
id rather see him than barry

Karl Mundt
06-19-2005, 03:56 AM
In conclusion, to say that Devin Brown hurt the Spurs when he was on the court against the Lakers is not only baseless but appalling. Devin Brown was the reason the Spurs didn't get destroyed last year in the playoffs. For the series, the Spurs were +19 when Devin was on the court. When Devin wasn't on the court, the Spurs were -44. Extrapolate that to 48 minutes and the Spurs were +149 with Devin on the court. Those are numbers out of this world.

Basically, this myth can't be any more wrong. Not only did Devin help the Spurs last year in the playoffs, he carried them. Without him, the numbers say the Spurs would have been destroyed worse than in 2001. Numbers such as these can't be passed off as fluke. They prove that in big games, Devin has a history of coming up huge.


First off, i have to apologize for not reading your post thoroughly: i missed the part where you said the regular season does not matter.

Second, i want to ask you where you got those numbers from? Did you go back to watching all those games or are the stats on the internet somewhere, because i can't find the +/- stats for the Lakers series specifically. But looking at the 2004 playoff stats ( http://www.82games.com/034PSAS.HTM ), Devin, although improving on his regular season ratings, still has a negative +/- rating for the whole playoffs combined. The team was +0.4 (+1 total) with him on the court and +4.2 (+30 total) while Devin was on the bench, combining for a -3.8 (-29 total) Rolland Rating. This could be explainable if Devin had a really bad series against Memphis, but he only played a combined 11 minutes in 3 games Pop put him on the floor.

So if the team was +19 when Devin was in the game (119 minutes) during those 6 games against the Lakers and -44 when he wasn't (169 minutes), the team per 48 minutes would be +46 (288/119 x 19) with Devin and -75 (288/169 x -44) without him, combining for a total rating of +121 (not +149).

Now if that was truly the case and Devin really had a +19 and -44 net total (+63 combined), then Devin, to end up with a total of -29 point rating ( http://www.82games.com/P3SAS4D.HTM ) would have to help the Spurs go for -92 points in the whole 11 minutes that he played against the Grizzlies. How that is possible is beyond me, but from the stats i can see, in two regular seasons and two playoffs with the Spurs, Devin has yet to produce a positive Rolland rating.

timvp
06-19-2005, 04:01 AM
First off, i have to apologize for not reading your post thoroughly: i missed the part where you said the regular season does not matter.

Second, i want to ask you where you got those numbers from? Did you go back to watching all those games or are the stats on the internet somewhere, because i can't find the +/- stats for the Lakers series specifically. But looking at the 2004 playoff stats ( http://www.82games.com/034PSAS.HTM ), Devin, although improving on his regular season ratings, still has a negative +/- rating for the whole playoffs combined. The team was +0.4 (+1 total) with him on the court and +4.2 (+30 total) while Devin was on the bench, combining for a -3.8 (-29 total) Rolland Rating. This could be explainable if Devin had a really bad series against Memphis, but he only played a combined 11 minutes in 3 games Pop put him on the floor.

So if the team was +19 when Devin was in the game (119 minutes) during those 6 games against the Lakers and -44 when he wasn't (169 minutes), the team per 48 minutes would be +46 (288/119 x 19) with Devin and -75 (288/169 x -44) without him, combining for a total rating of +121 (not +149).

Now if that was truly the case and Devin really had a +19 and -44 net total (+63 combined), then Devin, to end up with a total of -29 point rating ( http://www.82games.com/P3SAS4D.HTM ) would have to help the Spurs go for -92 points in the whole 11 minutes that he played against the Grizzlies. How that is possible is beyond me, but from the stats i can see, in two regular seasons and two playoffs with the Spurs, Devin has yet to produce a positive Rolland rating.

I did the +/- myself by hand looking at the play-by-play that can be found on NBA.com. I'll look at that Memphis series now to see what the deal was in the minutes Devin played.

timvp
06-19-2005, 04:09 AM
Yeah, the Memphis series shouldn't have made that huge an impact on the overall numbers. If someone wants to go back and double check my work by looking at the boxscore, that'd be appreciated.

Here is what I got for his different stints on the court.


game 1
-2
+3
+4
-1
---
+4

game 2
+3
+5
+1
---
+9

game 3
+1
-1
-2
--
-2

game 4
+0
+4
-8
--
-4

game 5
-5
+9
+3
---
+7

game 6
+9
-4
---
+5

timvp
06-19-2005, 04:11 AM
Oh and to Whottt, I'm not going to argue with someone who is proven wrong and then just spins and twists until he gets himself out from under the rock.

It's no fun.

Sense
06-19-2005, 04:49 AM
I just want to say that even though I did not read the whole story...


I know what you are talking about.

Timvp... I also know for a fact that Whottt has a huge ego... so trying to convince him of anything without an endless argument is kinda hard..


With that said...

I guarantee more argument.

Karl Mundt
06-19-2005, 06:50 AM
Timvp, i don't know how you came up with those numbers, but i've done the +/- calculations based on NBA.com's play by plays and they came up completely different. However, they did in fact prove that Devin had a very positive role in last years Lakers series regarding the +/- ratings. I don't know how i missed it before, but i know why Devin's ratings for the Memphis series was so bad (-92), it's simply because he only played 11 minutes, and hence didn't have enough to gather a very high (or low) point differential, while other players who played more during the series, had more opportunity to pad their rolland ratings so to speak. Most of the series was with Devin 'off court', and since it was a blowout series, those + ratings were probably through the roof for most of the team, and since Devin's ratings were subtracted by those high numbers, it was only natural that they were as low as they were.

Here are my +/- stats for the 6 games:
(i'll also try and post the play by play with comments that people can point to if they see any mistakes)

Game 1 Total:
With Devin: +10
Without Devin: 0
Net Total: +10

Game 2 Total:
With Devin: -1
Without Devin: +11
Net Total: -12

Game 3 Total:
With Devin: +6
Without Devin: -22
Net Total: +28

Game 4 Total:
With Devin: -8
Without Devin: 0
Net Total: -8

Game 5 Total:
With Devin: +7
Without Devin: -8
Net Total: +15

Game 6 Total:
With Devin: +5
Without Devin: -17
Net Total: +22
-------------------------------------
Total with Devin: +19
Total without Devin: -36
Total Net: +55
-------------------------------------

Karl Mundt
06-19-2005, 06:50 AM
GAME 1
Spurs 88, Lakers 78


1st Period
(12:00) Jump Ball Duncan vs O'Neal
(11:49) [LAL] George Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO)
(11:34) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed
(11:32) [LAL] Team Rebound
(11:20) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(11:18) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(11:15) [LAL 2-0] Bryant Layup Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: O'Neal (1 AST)
(10:59) [SAN 2-2] Duncan Jump Hook: Made (2 PTS)
(10:35) [LAL] Payton Driving Layup: Missed Block: Duncan (1 BLK)
(10:32) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(10:30) [LAL] Bryant Fade Away: Missed
(10:28) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(10:22) [SAN] Parker Layup Shot: Missed
(10:20) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(10:10) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(10:08) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(9:54) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(9:52) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(9:44) [LAL] Bryant Layup Shot: Missed
(9:42) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(9:34) [SAN] Turkoglu Turnover: Double Dribble (1 TO)
(9:26) [LAL 4-2] Payton Layup Shot: Made (2 PTS)
(9:13) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(9:10) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(8:52) [LAL] Malone Fade Away: Missed
(8:51) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(8:36) [SAN 4-4] Duncan Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS)
(8:19) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(8:19) [SAN] Team Rebound
(8:19) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Loose Ball (1 PF)
(8:06) [SAN] Turkoglu Fade Away: Missed
(8:05) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(7:49) [LAL 6-4] Malone Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS)
(7:30) [LAL] George Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(7:30) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(7:30) [SAN] Team Rebound
(7:30) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(7:28) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(7:19) [SAN] Parker Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(7:08) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Lost Ball Out of Bounds (1 TO)
(6:50) [LAL] Malone Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(6:50) [SAN 5-6] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (5 PTS)
(6:50) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(6:49) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(6:35) [LAL] Malone Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Parker (1 ST)
(6:30) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Offensive Goaltending (1 TO)
(6:16) [SAN] Bowen Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(6:16) [LAL 7-5] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (3 PTS)
(6:16) [LAL 8-5] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 (4 PTS)
(6:00) [SAN] Bowen Layup Shot: Missed
(6:00) [LAL] Team Rebound
(6:00) [SAN] Bowen Foul: Loose Ball (2 PF)
(6:00) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(6:00) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(5:46) [LAL 10-5] O'Neal Dunk Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Bryant (1 AST)
(5:31) [LAL] Bryant Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(5:31) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Horry
(5:22) [SAN] Turkoglu Driving Layup: Missed
(5:20) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(4:59) [LAL 12-5] O'Neal Hook Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Payton (1 AST)
(4:39) [SAN] Nesterovic Turnaround Jump: Missed
(4:37) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(4:21) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(4:19) [SAN] Parker Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(4:12) [SAN 8-12] Ginobili Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Turkoglu (1 AST)
(3:51) [LAL] Malone Layup Shot: Missed Block: Nesterovic (1 BLK)
(3:48) [SAN] Parker Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(3:47) [SAN 10-12] Parker Layup Shot: Made (2 PTS)
(3:47) [LAL] Payton Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(3:47) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: -2)

(3:47) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by D. Brown
(3:47) [SAN] Parker Free Throw 1 of 1 missed
(3:46) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(3:33) [LAL] O'Neal Jump Shot: Missed
(3:31) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(3:23) [SAN 12-12] D. Brown Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Parker (1 AST)
(3:02) [LAL] Malone Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal: Ginobili (1 ST)
(2:48) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(2:45) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:1 Def:5)
(2:40) [LAL] Payton Layup Shot: Missed
(2:38) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(2:32) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(2:32) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Rush
(2:32) [LAL] Payton Substitution replaced by Fisher
(2:32) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Duncan
(2:32) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Medvedenko
(2:22) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(2:20) [LAL] Fisher Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(2:07) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(2:06) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(2:00) [SAN 14-12] Duncan Jump Shot: Made (7 PTS) Assist: D. Brown (1 AST)
(1:44) [LAL] Rush Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO)
(1:23) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal: Bryant (1 ST)
(1:09) [SAN] Ginobili Violation: Kicked Ball
(0:56) [LAL] Fisher Jump Shot: Missed
(0:54) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(0:38) [SAN 16-12] D. Brown Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Parker (2 AST)
(0:28) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(0:28) [LAL 13-16] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (5 PTS)
(0:28) [LAL 14-16] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 (6 PTS)
(0:12) [SAN 18-14] Parker Layup Shot: Made (4 PTS)
(0:03) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Traveling (2 TO)
(0:00) [SAN 21-14] Parker Jump Shot: Made (7 PTS)
(0:00) End Period
(0:00) [TBD] Instant Replay: Support Ruling

2nd Period
(11:38) [SAN] D. Brown Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO)
(11:28) [LAL] Fisher Running Layup: Missed Block: Duncan (2 BLK)
(11:26) [LAL] O'Neal Layup Shot: Missed
(11:26) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:2 Def:2)
(11:24) [LAL] O'Neal Layup Shot: Missed
(11:24) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:3 Def:2)
(11:21) [LAL] O'Neal Layup Shot: Missed
(11:21) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:2)
(11:20) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(11:14) [LAL] Bryant Violation: Kicked Ball
(11:07) [LAL] Rush Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(11:00) [SAN 23-14] Duncan Jump Shot: Made (9 PTS)
(10:44) [LAL] Rush Jump Shot: Missed
(10:42) [LAL] Medvedenko Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(10:42) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(10:42) [LAL 15-23] Medvedenko Free Throw 1 of 2 (1 PTS)
(10:42) [LAL 16-23] Medvedenko Free Throw 2 of 2 (2 PTS)
(10:30) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(10:28) [LAL] Fisher Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(10:18) [LAL 18-23] O'Neal Dunk Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Rush (1 AST)
(10:01) [SAN 25-18] Hart Driving Layup: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Duncan (1 AST)
(9:38) [LAL] Bryant Layup Shot: Missed
(9:36) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:2 Def:5)
(9:36) [LAL 20-25] Bryant Layup Shot: Made (8 PTS)
(9:36) [SAN] Hart Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(9:36) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(9:36) [LAL 21-25] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 1 (9 PTS)
(9:27) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Offensive (2 PF)
(9:27) [SAN] D. Brown Turnover: Foul (2 TO)
(9:14) [LAL] Bryant Fade Away: Missed
(9:12) [SAN] Hart Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(9:01) [LAL] Medvedenko Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(9:01) [SAN] D. Brown Substitution replaced by Turkoglu

(with Devin: +6)

(8:54) [LAL] Medvedenko Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(8:54) Timeout: Official
(8:54) [LAL] Medvedenko Substitution replaced by Malone
(8:54) [LAL] Bryant Substitution replaced by Walton
(8:47) [SAN 27-21] Duncan Turnaround Hook Shot: Made (11 PTS)
(8:31) [LAL 23-27] Fisher Layup Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Malone (1 AST)
(8:13) [SAN] Ginobili Turnover: Lost Ball Possession (1 TO) Steal: Rush (1 ST)
(8:13) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by Bowen
(8:13) [SAN] Hart Substitution replaced by Parker
(8:13) [LAL] Rush Substitution replaced by Payton
(8:13) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(8:03) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(8:01) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(7:46) [SAN] Parker Layup Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (1 BLK)
(7:43) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(7:37) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(7:35) [LAL] Walton Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(7:31) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(7:31) [LAL 24-27] Malone Free Throw 1 of 2 (3 PTS)
(7:31) [SAN] Nesterovic Violation: Lane
(7:31) [LAL 25-27] Malone Free Throw 2 of 2 (4 PTS)
(7:14) [LAL] Walton Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(7:05) [SAN 30-25] Bowen Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Parker (3 AST)
(6:51) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: 3 Second Violation (1 TO)
(6:32) [SAN] Parker Running Jump: Missed
(6:30) [SAN 32-25] Nesterovic Tip Shot: Made (2 PTS)
(6:30) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(6:07) [LAL] Walton Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Turkoglu (1 ST)
(6:00) [SAN] Nesterovic Layup Shot: Missed
(5:58) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(5:48) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: 3 Second Violation (2 TO)
(5:48) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(5:48) [LAL] Walton Substitution replaced by Bryant
(5:48) [LAL] Fisher Substitution replaced by George
(5:25) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(5:23) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:3)
(5:04) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(5:04) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Horry
(5:04) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(5:04) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(5:04) [LAL] Team Rebound
(5:04) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(5:03) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(4:47) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed
(4:46) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:4)
(4:30) [LAL] Payton Finger Roll: Missed
(4:30) [LAL] Team Rebound
(4:30) [SAN] Horry Foul: Loose Ball (1 PF)
(4:30) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(4:30) [LAL] Team Rebound
(4:30) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(4:28) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(4:14) [SAN] Ginobili Layup Shot: Missed
(4:12) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:5)
(4:08) [SAN] Parker Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(4:08) [LAL] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(4:08) [LAL] Team Rebound
(4:08) [LAL 26-32] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 (10 PTS)
(3:52) [SAN] Horry Running Hook Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (2 BLK)
(3:49) [SAN 34-26] Nesterovic Layup Shot: Made (4 PTS)
(3:49) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:2 Def:3)
(3:31) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(3:31) [SAN] Team Rebound
(3:31) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Loose Ball (2 PF)
(3:31) [SAN] Nesterovic Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(3:31) [SAN] Team Rebound
(3:31) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(3:31) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Duncan
(3:31) [SAN] Nesterovic Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(3:30) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:5)
(3:14) [LAL 29-34] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (13 PTS) Assist: Malone (2 AST)
(2:49) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(2:47) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(2:45) [LAL] Payton Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(2:45) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Horry
(2:45) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(2:45) [SAN] Team Rebound
(2:45) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(2:45) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:6)
(2:34) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(2:34) [LAL 30-34] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 (7 PTS)
(2:34) [LAL 31-34] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 (8 PTS)
(2:15) [SAN] Horry Foul: Offensive (2 PF)
(2:15) [SAN] Horry Turnover: Foul (1 TO)
(2:15) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Willis
(1:59) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(1:57) [SAN] Willis Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(1:49) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(1:46) [SAN] Team Rebound
(1:33) [SAN 36-31] Duncan Jump Shot: Made (13 PTS) Assist: Parker (4 AST)
(1:17) [SAN] Willis Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(1:17) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: +1)

(1:17) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(1:17) [LAL] Team Rebound
(1:17) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Fisher
(1:17) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(1:15) [SAN] Willis Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(0:57) [SAN] Ginobili Running Jump: Missed Block: O'Neal (3 BLK)
(0:57) [SAN] Team Rebound
(0:54) [SAN 38-31] Duncan (15 PTS)
(0:39) [LAL] O'Neal Jump Hook: Missed
(0:37) [SAN] Willis Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(0:27) [SAN 41-31] D. Brown Jump Shot: Made (7 PTS) Assist: Parker (5 AST)
(0:22) [LAL] Team Timeout: Short
(0:22) [SAN] Team Timeout: Short
(0:22) [SAN] Parker Substitution replaced by Hart
(0:08) [LAL 33-41] O'Neal Dunk Shot: Made (10 PTS) Assist: Bryant (2 AST)
(0:08) [SAN] Willis Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(0:08) [SAN] Hart Substitution replaced by Parker
(0:08) [LAL] Fisher Substitution replaced by Rush
(0:08) [SAN] Willis Substitution replaced by Horry
(0:08) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 1 missed
(0:06) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(0:00) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:7)
(0:00) End Period

(with Devin: +3)

3rd Period
(11:44) [SAN] Turkoglu Layup Shot: Missed
(11:43) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:2 Def:6)
(11:36) [LAL 35-41] Bryant Driving Layup: Made (15 PTS)
(11:15) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed Block: George (1 BLK)
(11:13) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(10:57) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: Bad Pass (3 TO) Steal: Duncan (1 ST)
(10:44) [LAL] Payton Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(10:44) [SAN] Parker Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(10:44) [SAN] Team Rebound
(10:44) [SAN 42-35] Parker Free Throw 2 of 2 (8 PTS)
(10:36) [LAL 37-42] O'Neal Layup Shot: Made (12 PTS) Assist: Malone (3 AST)
(10:36) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(10:36) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 1 missed
(10:35) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(10:18) [SAN 44-37] Duncan Driving Layup: Made (17 PTS)
(10:00) [LAL 40-44] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (18 PTS)
(9:45) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(9:43) [SAN] Parker Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(9:29) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(9:26) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:6)
(9:17) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(9:16) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:5 Def:6)
(9:02) [LAL 42-44] O'Neal Jump Shot: Made (14 PTS)
(8:42) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Traveling (3 TO)
(8:28) [SAN] Turkoglu Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(8:28) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(8:28) [LAL 43-44] George Free Throw 1 of 2 (1 PTS)
(8:28) [LAL 44-44] George Free Throw 2 of 2 (2 PTS)
(8:12) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (4 BLK)
(8:12) [SAN] Team Rebound
(8:06) [LAL] Malone Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(8:06) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(8:06) [SAN] Team Rebound
(8:06) [SAN 45-44] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (18 PTS)
(7:52) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(7:50) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:6 Def:6)
(7:43) [LAL 46-45] Malone Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: O'Neal (2 AST)
(7:27) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Bad Pass (4 TO)
(7:02) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(7:00) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(6:55) [SAN 47-46] Parker Running Layup: Made (10 PTS)
(6:55) [LAL] George Violation: Defensive Goaltending
(6:43) [LAL 48-47] Bryant Layup Shot: Made (20 PTS)
(6:43) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(6:43) [LAL 49-47] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 1 (21 PTS)
(6:24) [SAN 50-49] Ginobili Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Duncan (2 AST)
(6:00) [LAL 51-50] O'Neal Dunk Shot: Made (16 PTS) Assist: Bryant (3 AST)
(5:59) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(5:59) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Horry
(5:41) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Lost Ball Out of Bounds (5 TO)
(5:26) [LAL 53-50] Bryant Fade Away: Made (23 PTS) Assist: Payton (2 AST)
(5:06) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(5:04) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:8)
(4:56) [LAL 56-50] George Jump Shot: Made (5 PTS) Assist: Malone (4 AST)
(4:54) [SAN] Team Timeout: Short
(4:37) [SAN 52-56] Parker Reverse Layup: Made (12 PTS)
(4:19) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(4:17) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(4:13) [SAN 54-56] Parker Running Jump: Made (14 PTS)
(3:52) [LAL] Bryant Fade Away: Missed
(3:51) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:5)
(3:43) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(3:41) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:2 Def:7)
(3:33) [LAL 59-54] George Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Bryant (4 AST)
(3:13) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(3:11) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:6 Def:7)
(3:07) [LAL] George Turnover: Traveling (2 TO)
(3:07) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: -13)

(3:07) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(2:59) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(2:59) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(2:59) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Fisher
(2:59) [SAN 55-59] Parker Free Throw 1 of 2 (15 PTS)
(2:59) [SAN 56-59] Parker Free Throw 2 of 2 (16 PTS)
(2:44) [LAL 61-56] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (25 PTS)
(2:26) [SAN 58-61] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Parker (6 AST)
(2:08) [LAL 63-58] Fisher Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Malone (5 AST)
(1:53) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed
(1:51) [LAL] Fisher Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(1:40) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(1:38) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(1:24) [SAN] D. Brown Turnover: Lost Ball (3 TO) Steal: Fisher (1 ST)
(1:21) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(1:21) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by Turkoglu
(1:21) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Duncan
(1:21) [LAL 64-58] Malone Free Throw 1 of 2 (7 PTS)
(1:21) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Medvedenko
(1:21) [LAL 65-58] Malone Free Throw 2 of 2 (8 PTS)
(1:00) [SAN] D. Brown Jump Shot: Missed
(0:59) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(0:40) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(0:38) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:6)
(0:30) [SAN 60-65] Parker Jump Shot: Made (18 PTS)
(0:09) [LAL] Medvedenko Jump Hook: Missed
(0:07) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(0:01) [SAN 62-65] Parker Jump Shot: Made (20 PTS)
(0:00) [LAL] Fisher Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [LAL] Team Rebound
(0:00) End Period

4th Period
(11:39) [LAL 67-62] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (27 PTS)
(11:25) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(11:23) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:2 Def:6)
(11:23) [SAN 64-67] Duncan Layup Shot: Made (20 PTS)
(11:23) [LAL] Medvedenko Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(11:23) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 1 missed
(11:22) [LAL] Medvedenko Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(11:00) [LAL 69-64] Bryant Driving Layup: Made (29 PTS)
(10:40) [SAN 66-69] Duncan (22 PTS)
(10:24) [LAL] Fisher Jump Shot: Missed
(10:22) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(10:10) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (4 PF)
(10:10) [SAN 67-69] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (23 PTS)
(10:10) [SAN] D. Brown Substitution replaced by Bowen

(with Devin: +3)

(10:10) [SAN 68-69] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (24 PTS)
(10:05) [LAL] Rush Turnover: Lost Ball (2 TO) Steal: Turkoglu (2 ST)
(10:04) [LAL] Rush Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(10:04) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(10:04) [SAN] Parker Substitution replaced by Hart
(10:04) [LAL] Medvedenko Substitution replaced by Malone
(10:04) [LAL] Rush Substitution replaced by Payton
(10:04) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(9:53) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed
(9:51) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:3 Def:6)
(9:50) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Lost Ball (6 TO) Steal: Bryant (2 ST)
(9:40) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(9:39) [SAN] Team Rebound
(9:39) [LAL] Bryant Foul: Technical (1 PF)
(9:39) [SAN 69-69] Ginobili Free Throw Technical (7 PTS)
(9:23) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(9:23) [LAL] Team Rebound
(9:08) [LAL] O'Neal Alley Oop Dunk: Missed
(9:06) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:1 Def:8)
(9:04) [LAL] Malone Turnover: Bad Pass (3 TO) Steal: Nesterovic (1 ST)
(8:43) [SAN 71-69] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (1 AST)
(8:41) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(8:41) [SAN] Hart Substitution replaced by Parker
(8:31) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Personal (4 PF)
(8:17) [LAL] Payton Turnaround Jump: Missed
(8:16) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:3 Def:7)
(7:58) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Lost Ball Out of Bounds (7 TO)
(7:36) [LAL] Payton Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Duncan (2 ST)
(7:28) [SAN 73-69] Nesterovic Layup Shot: Made (10 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (2 AST
(7:13) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(7:11) [SAN] Parker Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(7:02) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(7:00) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(6:43) [LAL] Malone Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(6:38) [SAN] Parker Fade Away: Missed
(6:36) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(6:23) [LAL 71-73] O'Neal Dunk Shot: Made (18 PTS) Assist: Fisher (1 AST)
(6:23) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(6:23) [LAL] Payton Substitution replaced by George
(6:23) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 1 missed
(6:22) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:3 Def:8)
(6:03) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: George (1 ST)
(5:53) [LAL] Fisher Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Ginobili (2 ST)
(5:44) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(5:42) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:2 Def:8)
(5:35) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Bad Pass (3 TO) Steal: Parker (2 ST)
(5:30) [SAN 75-71] Ginobili Layup Shot: Made (9 PTS) Assist: Parker (7 AST)
(5:02) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Bad Pass (4 TO)
(5:02) Timeout: Official
(5:02) [LAL] Fisher Substitution replaced by Payton
(4:46) [SAN 77-71] Duncan Jump Shot: Made (26 PTS)
(4:15) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(4:15) [LAL] Team Rebound
(4:15) [LAL] Team Turnover: 24 Second Violation ( TO)
(3:55) [SAN 79-71] Duncan Turnaround Jump: Made (28 PTS)
(3:39) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Personal (5 PF)
(3:39) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Horry
(3:33) [LAL] George Foul: Offensive (2 PF)
(3:33) [LAL] George Turnover: Foul (3 TO)
(3:21) [SAN] Duncan Running Jump: Missed Block: O'Neal (5 BLK)
(3:18) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(3:15) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(3:14) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:1 Def:9)
(3:01) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: Lost Ball (4 TO) Steal: Duncan (3 ST)
(2:40) [SAN 81-71] Duncan (30 PTS) Assist: Parker (8 AST)
(2:38) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(2:38) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Fisher
(2:23) [LAL] Fisher Jump Shot: Missed
(2:21) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(1:58) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(1:57) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:1 Def:10)
(1:45) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(1:43) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(1:42) [LAL] Payton Turnover: Lost Ball (2 TO) Steal: Parker (3 ST)
(1:37) [SAN 83-71] Ginobili Dunk Shot: Made (11 PTS) Assist: Duncan (3 AST)
(1:27) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Shooting (4 PF)
(1:27) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(1:27) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(1:27) [LAL] Team Rebound
(1:27) [LAL 72-83] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 (19 PTS)
(1:12) [SAN] Horry Turnaround Hook Shot: Missed
(1:10) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(1:09) [SAN 85-72] Bowen Layup Shot: Made (5 PTS) Assist: Parker (9 AST)
(0:59) [SAN] Bowen Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(0:59) [LAL 73-85] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (30 PTS)
(0:59) [SAN] Parker Substitution replaced by Hart
(0:59) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Walton
(0:59) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Willis
(0:59) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: +14)

(0:59) [LAL 74-85] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 (31 PTS)
(0:58) [SAN] Horry Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO)
(0:58) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(0:58) [LAL 75-85] Payton Free Throw 1 of 2 (3 PTS)
(0:58) [LAL 76-85] Payton Free Throw 2 of 2 (4 PTS)
(0:34) [SAN 87-76] Hart Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS)
(0:22) [LAL 78-87] Malone Running Layup: Made (10 PTS) Assist: Payton (3 AST)
(0:19) [LAL] Walton Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(0:19) [SAN] D. Brown Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(0:19) [SAN] Team Rebound
(0:19) [LAL] Bryant Substitution replaced by Rush
(0:19) [SAN 88-78] D. Brown Free Throw 2 of 2 (8 PTS)
(0:09) [LAL] Fisher Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO)
(0:00) End Period

(with Devin: -2)

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Total:
With Devin: +10
Without Devin: 0
Net Total: +10

Minutes played: 14
Points scored: 8
FG: 3-4
3PT: 1-1
FT: 2-2

Karl Mundt
06-19-2005, 06:51 AM
GAME 2
Spurs 95, Lakers 85


1st Period
(12:00) Jump Ball Duncan vs O'Neal
(11:46) [LAL] Payton Violation: Kicked Ball
(11:33) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(11:31) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(11:20) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(11:19) [SAN] Bowen Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(11:10) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(11:09) [SAN] Team Rebound
(11:07) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(11:05) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(10:48) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(10:46) [SAN] Nesterovic Tip Shot: Missed
(10:46) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:2 Def:0)
(10:44) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(10:33) [LAL 2-0] Malone Driving Layup: Made (2 PTS)
(10:17) [SAN 2-2] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS)
(9:54) [LAL] Bryant Layup Shot: Missed
(9:53) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(9:51) [LAL 4-2] Bryant Layup Shot: Made (2 PTS)
(9:37) [SAN 4-4] Parker Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS)
(9:23) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Lost Ball (1 TO) Steal: Parker (1 ST)
(9:19) [SAN 6-4] Parker Reverse Layup: Made (4 PTS)
(9:00) [LAL] O'Neal Layup Shot: Missed
(8:58) [LAL 6-6] O'Neal Tip Shot: Made (2 PTS)
(8:58) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(8:48) [SAN 8-6] Parker Layup Shot: Made (6 PTS)
(8:34) [LAL] George Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Bowen (1 ST)
(8:15) [LAL] George Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(8:15) [SAN 9-6] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (1 PTS)
(8:15) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(8:14) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(8:08) [SAN] Turkoglu Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(8:07) [LAL] Malone Foul: Offensive (1 PF)
(8:07) [LAL] Malone Turnover: Foul (1 TO)
(8:07) [LAL] Team Violation: Delay of Game
(7:58) [SAN 12-6] Parker Jump Shot: Made (9 PTS)
(7:35) [LAL 8-12] Malone Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS)
(7:16) [SAN 14-8] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Duncan (1 AST)
(7:03) [LAL] Bryant Reverse Layup: Missed
(7:02) [LAL 10-14] O'Neal Layup Shot: Made (4 PTS)
(7:02) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:2 Def:1)
(7:02) [SAN] Turkoglu Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(7:02) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(7:02) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 1 missed
(7:01) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:2 Def:1)
(6:53) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(6:51) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(6:40) [LAL] George Jump Shot: Missed
(6:38) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:2 Def:2)
(6:20) [SAN 16-10] Nesterovic (2 PTS) Assist: Parker (1 AST)
(6:08) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: 3 Second Violation (1 TO)
(6:08) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(5:57) [SAN 18-10] Parker Layup Shot: Made (11 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (1 AST)
(5:29) [LAL] O'Neal Layup Shot: Missed
(5:26) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(5:22) [SAN 20-10] Ginobili Running Jump: Made (2 PTS)
(4:59) [LAL] Malone Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO)
(4:59) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Horry
(4:45) [LAL] Bryant Foul: Inbound (1 PF)
(4:45) [SAN] Bowen Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(4:45) [SAN] Team Rebound
(4:45) [SAN 21-10] Bowen Free Throw 2 of 2 (1 PTS)
(4:29) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(4:27) [SAN] Team Rebound
(4:12) [SAN 24-10] Horry Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (2 AST)
(4:05) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(4:05) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Fox
(4:05) [LAL] Payton Substitution replaced by Fisher
(3:53) [LAL 12-24] Bryant Driving Layup: Made (4 PTS)
(3:38) [LAL] Fisher Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(3:36) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(3:36) [SAN] Bowen Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(3:36) [SAN] Team Rebound
(3:36) [SAN] Bowen Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(3:35) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:2 Def:2)
(3:09) [LAL 15-24] Fisher Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Bryant (1 AST)
(2:50) [SAN 27-15] Parker Jump Shot: Made (14 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (3 AST)
(2:27) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Loose Ball (1 PF)
(2:27) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Duncan
(2:27) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: +12)

(2:23) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: Traveling (2 TO)
(2:10) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(2:08) [SAN 29-15] Duncan Layup Shot: Made (3 PTS)
(2:08) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(1:54) [LAL] O'Neal Layup Shot: Missed
(1:53) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(1:34) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Fox (1 ST)
(1:26) [LAL] Fisher Jump Shot: Missed
(1:25) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(1:14) [SAN 31-15] Parker Jump Shot: Made (16 PTS)
(1:02) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(1:00) [LAL 17-31] O'Neal Dunk Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Fox (1 AST)
(0:42) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(0:40) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(0:25) [LAL] Fisher Jump Shot: Missed
(0:23) [SAN] Bowen Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(0:00) [SAN 33-17] Duncan Jump Shot: Made (5 PTS)
(0:00) End Period

2nd Period
(11:50) [SAN] Horry Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(11:42) [LAL 19-33] Medvedenko Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Rush (1 AST)
(11:17) [SAN 35-19] Duncan Running Finger Roll: Made (7 PTS)
(11:04) [LAL 21-35] O'Neal Dunk Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Fox (2 AST)
(10:49) [LAL] Medvedenko Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(10:49) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(10:43) [SAN 37-21] Ginobili Dunk Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Nesterovic (1 AST)
(10:23) [LAL 23-37] O'Neal Jump Shot: Made (10 PTS)
(10:09) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Hook: Missed
(10:07) [LAL] Medvedenko Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(9:59) [LAL] Rush Jump Shot: Missed
(9:57) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(9:51) [SAN 39-23] Nesterovic Layup Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (4 AST)
(9:38) [LAL] Fox Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Hart (1 ST)
(9:35) [LAL] Fisher Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(9:35) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(9:35) [SAN] Team Rebound
(9:35) [LAL] Fox Substitution replaced by Bryant
(9:35) [SAN 40-23] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (8 PTS)
(9:15) [LAL 25-40] Medvedenko Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: O'Neal (1 AST)
(9:03) [SAN] Hart Jump Shot: Missed
(9:01) [LAL] Rush Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(8:54) [LAL 27-40] Medvedenko Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Rush (2 AST)
(8:31) [LAL] Medvedenko Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(8:31) Timeout: Official
(8:31) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Malone
(8:31) [LAL] Fisher Substitution replaced by Payton
(8:31) [SAN 41-27] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (9 PTS)
(8:31) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Horry
(8:31) [SAN 42-27] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (10 PTS)
(8:19) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(8:17) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(8:06) [LAL] Payton Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(8:06) [SAN] Hart Substitution replaced by Parker
(8:06) [SAN] D. Brown Substitution replaced by Turkoglu

(with Devin: +3)

(7:55) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(7:53) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(7:39) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed Block: Duncan (1 BLK)
(7:36) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(7:35) [LAL] Medvedenko Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(7:35) [SAN 43-27] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (11 PTS)
(7:35) [LAL] Medvedenko Substitution replaced by O'Neal
(7:35) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(7:34) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(7:19) [LAL] Rush Jump Shot: Missed
(7:16) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(7:10) [SAN] Horry Jump Shot: Missed
(7:07) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(7:01) [SAN] Horry Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(7:01) [LAL] Payton Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(7:01) [LAL] Team Rebound
(7:01) [LAL] Rush Substitution replaced by George
(7:01) [LAL 28-43] Payton Free Throw 2 of 2 (1 PTS)
(6:51) [LAL] Bryant Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(6:51) [SAN] Ginobili Free Throw 1 of 3 missed
(6:51) [SAN] Team Rebound
(6:51) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(6:51) [SAN 44-28] Ginobili Free Throw 2 of 3 (5 PTS)
(6:51) [SAN 45-28] Ginobili Free Throw 3 of 3 (6 PTS)
(6:34) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(6:33) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:2 Def:3)
(6:26) [SAN 47-28] Parker Running Jump: Made (18 PTS)
(6:07) [LAL 31-47] George Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Payton (1 AST)
(5:56) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(5:54) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(5:48) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(5:48) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by Bowen
(5:40) [LAL] Payton Layup Shot: Missed
(5:37) [LAL 33-47] O'Neal Follow Up Dunk: Made (12 PTS)
(5:37) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:3 Def:2)
(5:17) [SAN 49-33] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Turkoglu (1 AST)
(5:02) [LAL 35-49] Malone Driving Layup: Made (6 PTS)
(4:36) [SAN 51-35] Duncan (13 PTS)
(4:21) [LAL 39-52] O'Neal Jump Hook: Made (16 PTS)
(3:59) [LAL] George Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(3:59) [SAN 52-37] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (14 PTS)
(3:59) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(3:58) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:3 Def:3)
(3:39) [LAL 39-52] O'Neal Layup Shot: Made (16 PTS) Assist: Bryant (2 AST)
(3:16) [LAL] Bryant Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(3:16) [SAN 53-39] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (15 PTS)
(3:16) [LAL] Bryant Substitution replaced by Fisher
(3:16) [SAN 54-39] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (16 PTS)
(2:54) [LAL 41-54] O'Neal Jump Hook: Made (18 PTS)
(2:44) [SAN] Parker Foul: Offensive (1 PF)
(2:44) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Foul (1 TO)
(2:44) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(2:44) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(2:44) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Horry
(2:34) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(2:23) [LAL] O'Neal Jump Shot: Missed
(2:21) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(2:18) [LAL 43-54] Payton Layup Shot: Made (3 PTS)
(1:57) [SAN 57-43] Bowen Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (5 AST)
(1:36) [SAN] Bowen Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(1:29) [LAL] Payton Layup Shot: Missed Block: Nesterovic (1 BLK)
(1:26) [SAN] Parker Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(1:22) [SAN 59-43] Ginobili Alley Oop Layup: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Parker (2 AST
(1:05) [LAL] Payton Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Nesterovic (1 ST)
(1:01) [SAN 61-43] Ginobili Layup Shot: Made (10 PTS) Assist: Parker (3 AST)
(0:50) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(0:50) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(0:50) [LAL] Team Rebound
(0:50) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Willis
(0:50) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(0:49) [SAN] Bowen Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(0:30) [SAN] Ginobili Layup Shot: Missed
(0:28) [LAL] Fisher Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(0:26) [LAL 45-61] Fisher Layup Shot: Made (5 PTS)
(0:26) [SAN] Bowen Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(0:26) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: +1)

(0:26) [LAL] Fisher Free Throw 1 of 1 missed
(0:25) [SAN] Willis Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(0:19) [SAN] Team Timeout: Short
(0:19) [SAN] Willis Substitution replaced by Duncan
(0:02) [SAN] Duncan
(0:00) [SAN] Parker Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(0:00) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed Block: Malone (1 BLK)
(0:00) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(0:00) End Period

(with Devin: 0)

3rd Period
(11:46) [LAL 47-61] Bryant Running Jump: Made (6 PTS)
(11:28) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(11:26) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(11:16) [LAL 49-61] Payton Jump Shot: Made (5 PTS)
(11:08) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(11:06) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(10:50) [LAL 51-61] Payton Fade Away: Made (7 PTS)
(10:48) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(10:30) [SAN] Parker Driving Layup: Missed
(10:29) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:3 Def:4)
(10:19) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(10:06) [LAL] George Jump Shot: Missed
(10:04) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(10:01) [LAL] Bryant Fade Away: Missed
(9:59) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(9:43) [SAN 65-51] Duncan Running Jump: Made (20 PTS)
(9:28) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(9:26) [SAN] Bowen Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(9:22) [SAN 65-51] Duncan Dunk Shot: Made (20 PTS) Assist: Parker (4 AST)
(8:59) [LAL] George Jump Shot: Missed
(8:55) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:2 Def:2)
(8:44) [LAL 53-65] O'Neal Dunk Shot: Made (20 PTS) Assist: Bryant (3 AST)
(8:27) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(8:27) [SAN 66-53] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (21 PTS)
(8:27) [SAN 67-53] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (22 PTS)
(8:07) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal: Bowen (2 ST)
(8:00) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(7:58) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(7:41) [LAL] Bryant Reverse Layup: Missed
(7:39) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:4)
(7:39) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: Stepped out of Bounds (3 TO)
(7:28) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(7:26) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(7:15) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(7:15) [LAL] Malone Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(7:15) [LAL] Team Rebound
(7:15) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Horry
(7:15) [LAL 54-67] Malone Free Throw 2 of 2 (7 PTS)
(6:59) [LAL] Malone Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(6:53) [SAN] Turkoglu Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO)
(6:53) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(6:42) [SAN] Bowen Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(6:32) [LAL 56-67] Bryant Driving Layup: Made (8 PTS)
(6:10) [SAN] Horry Jump Shot: Missed
(6:09) [LAL] Team Rebound
(6:09) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: -5)

(5:50) [LAL 58-67] Bryant Running Jump: Made (10 PTS)
(5:30) [SAN] Duncan Turnaround Hook Shot: Missed
(5:29) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:1 Def:5)
(5:19) [LAL] Malone Turnover: Bad Pass (3 TO)
(5:07) [SAN 69-58] Duncan Driving Dunk: Made (24 PTS) Assist: Parker (5 AST)
(5:04) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(4:40) [LAL] Bryant Turnaround Jump: Missed
(4:40) [LAL] Team Rebound
(4:40) [LAL] Team Turnover: 24 Second Violation ( TO)
(4:25) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Offensive (3 PF)
(4:25) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Foul (2 TO)
(4:08) [LAL 60-69] O'Neal Dunk Shot: Made (22 PTS) Assist: Bryant (4 AST)
(3:48) [SAN 71-60] Parker Jump Shot: Made (20 PTS)
(3:25) [LAL] Malone Turnover: Bad Pass (4 TO) Steal: Parker (2 ST)
(3:11) [SAN 73-60] Parker Driving Layup: Made (22 PTS)
(2:59) [LAL 62-73] O'Neal Dunk Shot: Made (24 PTS) Assist: Bryant (5 AST)
(2:42) [SAN] Horry Foul: Offensive (3 PF)
(2:42) [SAN] Horry Turnover: Foul (1 TO)
(2:42) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(2:42) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Fisher
(2:34) [LAL 64-73] Malone Layup Shot: Made (9 PTS) Assist: Bryant (6 AST)
(2:16) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(2:14) [LAL] Team Rebound
(2:14) [SAN] Horry Foul: Loose Ball (4 PF)
(2:01) [LAL] Payton Turnover: Lost Ball (2 TO) Steal: Ginobili (1 ST)
(1:58) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Duncan
(1:58) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by Bowen
(1:43) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (1 BLK)
(1:40) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:5)
(1:31) [LAL 66-73] Fisher Jump Shot: Made (7 PTS)
(1:15) [LAL] Payton Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(1:03) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Bad Pass (3 TO) Steal: Payton (1 ST)
(0:57) [SAN] Bowen Violation: Kicked Ball
(0:50) [LAL 68-73] Malone Layup Shot: Made (11 PTS) Assist: Bryant (7 AST)
(0:25) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(0:22) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:6)
(0:02) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(0:01) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:2 Def:3)
(0:00) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(0:00) End Period

4th Period
(12:00) [LAL] Malone Foul: Technical (2 PF)
(12:00) [SAN 74-68] D. Brown Free Throw Technical (1 PTS)
(12:00) [SAN] D. Brown Substitution replaced by Bowen

(with Devin: -5)

(11:41) [LAL] Fisher Violation: Kicked Ball
(11:40) [LAL] Bryant Foul: Personal (4 PF)
(11:33) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(11:31) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:2 Def:3)
(11:16) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(11:14) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(10:54) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed
(10:52) [LAL] Medvedenko Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(10:32) [LAL] Bryant Running Layup: Missed
(10:30) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(10:10) [SAN 76-68] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Duncan (2 AST)
(9:52) [SAN] Bowen Foul: Personal (4 PF)
(9:52) [LAL] Malone Substitution replaced by O'Neal
(9:39) [LAL 70-76] O'Neal Jump Shot: Made (26 PTS) Assist: Payton (2 AST)
(9:25) [SAN] Hart Jump Shot: Missed
(9:23) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:7)
(9:04) [LAL 72-76] O'Neal Jump Shot: Made (28 PTS) Assist: Fisher (1 AST)
(9:02) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(9:02) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by Turkoglu
(9:02) [SAN] Hart Substitution replaced by Parker
(9:02) [LAL] Medvedenko Substitution replaced by George
(9:02) [LAL] Payton Substitution replaced by Malone
(8:48) [SAN 78-72] Ginobili Reverse Layup: Made (12 PTS) Assist: Nesterovic (2
(8:23) [LAL 74-78] Fisher Jump Shot: Made (9 PTS)
(8:09) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(8:09) [SAN] Nesterovic Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(8:09) [SAN] Team Rebound
(8:09) [SAN] Nesterovic Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(8:07) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:1 Def:6)
(8:06) [LAL] Malone Turnover: Lost Ball (5 TO) Steal: Ginobili (2 ST)
(8:03) [SAN 80-74] Parker Layup Shot: Made (24 PTS)
(7:36) [LAL] O'Neal Jump Shot: Missed
(7:35) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:2 Def:6)
(7:29) [LAL 76-80] O'Neal Dunk Shot: Made (30 PTS) Assist: Bryant (8 AST)
(7:13) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(7:12) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:8)
(6:52) [LAL] Fisher Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Parker (3 ST)
(6:44) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(6:41) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:2 Def:7)
(6:24) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Personal (4 PF)
(6:24) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by Bowen
(6:24) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(6:16) [LAL 78-80] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (12 PTS) Assist: Fisher (2 AST)
(5:51) [SAN 83-78] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Made (7 PTS) Assist: Duncan (3 AST)
(5:34) [LAL 80-83] Bryant Turnaround Jump: Made (14 PTS) Assist: Fisher (3 AST)
(5:18) [LAL] Fisher Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(5:18) [SAN 84-80] Parker Free Throw 1 of 2 (25 PTS)
(5:18) [SAN 85-80] Parker Free Throw 2 of 2 (26 PTS)
(4:57) [LAL] Bryant Fade Away: Missed
(4:55) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:5 Def:8)
(4:54) [LAL] O'Neal Jump Shot: Missed
(4:52) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:5)
(4:34) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (4 PF)
(4:34) [SAN 86-80] Nesterovic Free Throw 1 of 2 (9 PTS)
(4:34) [LAL] Fisher Substitution replaced by Payton
(4:34) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(4:34) [SAN] Nesterovic Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(4:33) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(4:14) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Traveling (4 TO)
(3:54) [LAL] George Jump Shot: Missed
(3:53) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:6)
(3:38) [SAN 88-80] Parker Layup Shot: Made (28 PTS)
(3:37) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(3:37) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Fisher
(3:18) [LAL] Fisher Fade Away: Missed
(3:16) [SAN] Bowen Rebound (Off:0 Def:5)
(2:59) [SAN] Ginobili Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Bryant (1 ST)
(2:53) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(2:51) [SAN] Bowen Rebound (Off:0 Def:6)
(2:28) [SAN] Duncan Turnaround Jump: Missed
(2:26) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(2:11) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (4 PF)
(2:11) [LAL] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(2:11) [LAL] Team Rebound
(2:11) [LAL 81-88] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 (15 PTS)
(1:55) [SAN] Parker Fade Away: Missed
(1:54) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:5 Def:9)
(1:54) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(1:44) [LAL] Bryant Driving Layup: Missed
(1:44) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:6 Def:9)
(1:44) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(1:44) [LAL 82-88] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 (31 PTS)
(1:44) [LAL 83-88] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 (32 PTS)
(1:31) [SAN 90-83] Ginobili Jump Shot: Made (14 PTS)
(1:18) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (5 PF)
(1:18) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(1:18) [LAL] Team Rebound
(1:18) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Horry
(1:18) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(1:17) [SAN] Bowen Rebound (Off:0 Def:7)
(1:03) [SAN 92-83] Parker Jump Shot: Made (30 PTS)
(1:03) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(1:03) [LAL] Payton Substitution replaced by George
(0:58) [SAN] Horry Foul: Personal (5 PF)
(0:58) [LAL 85-94] Malone Free Throw 1 of 2 (13 PTS)
(0:58) [LAL] Fisher Substitution replaced by Payton
(0:58) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Walton
(0:58) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by Turkoglu
(0:58) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(0:58) [LAL 85-92] Malone Free Throw 2 of 2 (12 PTS)
(0:52) [SAN 94-85] Turkoglu Layup Shot: Made (9 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (6 AST)
(0:36) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Personal (4 PF)
(0:36) [LAL] Walton Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(0:36) [LAL] Team Rebound
(0:36) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Rush
(0:36) [LAL] Walton Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(0:34) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(0:13) [LAL] Walton Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(0:13) [SAN] Ginobili Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(0:13) [SAN] Team Rebound
(0:13) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(Without Devin: +3)

(0:13) [SAN] Parker Substitution replaced by Hart
(0:13) [SAN 95-85] Ginobili Free Throw 2 of 2 (15 PTS)
(0:07) [LAL] Walton Jump Shot: Missed
(0:05) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(0:00) End Period

(with Devin: +1)
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Total:
With Devin: -1
Without Devin: +11
Net Total: -12

Minutes played: 13
Points scored: 1
FG: 0-0
3PT: 0-0
FT: 1-1

Karl Mundt
06-19-2005, 06:52 AM
GAME 3
Lakers 105, Spurs 81


1st Period
(12:00) Jump Ball O'Neal vs Duncan
(11:43) [LAL] Bryant Fade Away: Missed
(11:41) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(11:18) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(11:17) [SAN] Bowen Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(11:17) [SAN] Bowen Layup Shot: Missed
(11:17) [SAN] Team Rebound
(11:17) [SAN] Team Turnover: 24 Second Violation ( TO)
(10:57) [LAL 2-0] O'Neal Layup Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Bryant (1 AST)
(10:42) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Lost Ball (1 TO) Steal: George (1 ST)
(10:35) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed Block: Duncan (1 BLK)
(10:35) [LAL] Team Rebound
(10:20) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: 3 Second Violation (1 TO)
(10:03) [SAN 3-2] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Bowen (1 AST)
(9:47) [LAL 4-3] Malone Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Payton (1 AST)
(9:18) [SAN] Parker Layup Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (1 BLK)
(9:16) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(9:15) [SAN] Turkoglu Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(9:15) [LAL] Payton Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(9:15) [LAL] Team Rebound
(9:15) [LAL 5-3] Payton Free Throw 2 of 2 (1 PTS)
(9:04) [SAN 5-5] Parker Driving Layup: Made (2 PTS)
(8:55) [LAL 7-5] O'Neal Slam Dunk Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Payton (2 AST)
(8:52) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(8:31) [SAN 8-7] Bowen Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Turkoglu (1 AST)
(8:07) [LAL 10-8] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Payton (3 AST)
(7:46) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(7:45) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(7:35) [LAL] Payton Turnover: Lost Ball Out of Bounds (1 TO)
(7:20) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(7:18) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(7:07) [LAL 12-8] O'Neal Slam Dunk Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Malone (1 AST)
(6:45) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(6:45) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Willis
(6:35) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(6:33) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(6:25) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(6:23) [SAN] Parker Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(6:20) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO)
(6:03) [LAL 14-8] O'Neal Layup Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Payton (4 AST)
(5:35) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(5:34) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(5:24) [LAL 16-8] Payton Driving Layup: Made (3 PTS)
(5:23) [SAN] Team Timeout: Short
(5:23) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(5:11) [LAL] Bryant Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(5:00) [SAN] Ginobili Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Bryant (1 ST)
(4:58) [LAL] Payton Turnover: Lost Ball (2 TO) Steal: Turkoglu (1 ST)
(4:50) [SAN] Willis Slam Dunk Shot: Missed
(4:49) [LAL] Team Rebound
(4:29) [LAL 19-8] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Payton (5 AST)
(4:14) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Lost Ball (1 TO) Steal: Malone (1 ST)
(4:12) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Horry
(4:12) [SAN] Willis Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(3:53) [LAL] O'Neal Jump Shot: Missed
(3:52) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(3:46) [LAL] Payton Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(3:33) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed Block: George (1 BLK)
(3:30) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(3:30) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(3:28) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(3:16) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(3:14) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(3:10) [LAL] Malone Foul: Offensive (1 PF)
(3:10) [LAL] Malone Turnover: Foul (1 TO)
(3:10) [LAL] Malone Foul: Technical (1 PF)
(3:10) [SAN 9-19] Ginobili Free Throw Technical (1 PTS)
(2:55) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(2:54) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(2:52) [LAL] George Turnover: Lost Ball (1 TO) Steal: Ginobili (1 ST)
(2:41) [SAN 12-19] Ginobili Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS)
(2:38) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(2:38) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Fisher
(2:21) [LAL 21-12] O'Neal Alley Oop Dunk: Made (10 PTS) Assist: Malone (2 AST)
(2:06) [SAN] Nesterovic Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO)
(1:52) [SAN] Horry Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(1:44) [LAL 23-12] Malone Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Bryant (2 AST)
(1:29) [SAN] Ginobili Layup Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (2 BLK)
(1:27) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(1:21) [LAL] Fisher Jump Shot: Missed
(1:19) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(1:16) [SAN 14-23] Parker Driving Layup: Made (4 PTS)
(1:07) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: -9)

(1:04) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(1:03) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(0:57) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Horry (1 ST)
(0:55) [SAN 16-23] Ginobili Layup Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Parker (1 AST)
(0:46) [LAL] Fisher Jump Shot: Missed
(0:45) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(0:42) [LAL 26-16] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (9 PTS) Assist: O'Neal (1 AST)
(0:27) [SAN] D. Brown Jump Shot: Missed
(0:25) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(0:06) [LAL 28-16] Malone Layup Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Bryant (3 AST)
(0:00) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [SAN] Team Rebound
(0:00) End Period

2nd Period
(11:45) [SAN 19-28] Ginobili Jump Shot: Made (9 PTS) Assist: Horry (1 AST)
(11:23) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Traveling (2 TO)
(11:07) [SAN] Ginobili Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal: Malone (2 ST)
(11:04) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(11:04) [LAL 29-19] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (10 PTS)
(11:04) [LAL] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(11:03) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(10:48) [SAN] D. Brown Layup Shot: Missed
(10:47) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(10:27) [LAL 31-19] Bryant Fade Away: Made (12 PTS) Assist: Malone (3 AST)
(10:10) [SAN 21-31] D. Brown Layup Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Duncan (1 AST)
(9:50) [LAL] Medvedenko Jump Shot: Missed
(9:49) [LAL] Medvedenko Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(9:44) [SAN] Horry Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(9:44) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(9:36) [LAL 33-21] Fisher Driving Layup: Made (2 PTS)
(9:27) [LAL] Medvedenko Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(9:11) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal: Rush (1 ST)
(9:03) [LAL] Rush Jump Shot: Missed
(9:02) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(8:54) [SAN] Nesterovic Hook Shot: Missed
(8:50) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(8:47) [SAN] Ginobili Turnover: Bad Pass (3 TO)
(8:47) Timeout: Official
(8:47) [SAN] Hart Substitution replaced by Parker
(8:47) [LAL] Malone Substitution replaced by George
(8:47) [LAL] Bryant Substitution replaced by O'Neal
(8:47) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by Bowen
(8:24) [LAL 35-21] O'Neal Slam Dunk Shot: Made (12 PTS) Assist: Fisher (1 AST)
(8:05) [SAN 23-35] D. Brown Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Parker (2 AST)
(7:43) [LAL] Fisher Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Parker (1 ST)
(7:42) [LAL] George Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(7:42) [LAL] George Foul: Technical (1 PF)
(7:42) [SAN 24-35] D. Brown Free Throw Technical (5 PTS)
(7:26) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (3 BLK)
(7:24) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(7:23) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(7:20) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:2 Def:5)
(7:11) [LAL] George Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO)
(6:52) [SAN 27-35] D. Brown Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Bowen (2 AST)
(6:32) [LAL] Fisher Substitution replaced by Payton
(6:32) [LAL] Medvedenko Substitution replaced by Malone
(6:25) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(6:24) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:3 Def:5)
(6:15) [LAL] O'Neal Layup Shot: Missed
(6:14) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(5:57) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Lost Ball (3 TO) Steal: George (2 ST)
(5:42) [LAL] Malone Layup Shot: Missed Block: Nesterovic (1 BLK)
(5:40) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(5:25) [LAL] Rush Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(5:25) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(5:25) [LAL] Rush Substitution replaced by Bryant
(5:11) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Lost Ball (4 TO) Steal: Malone (3 ST)
(4:58) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(4:56) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(4:41) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(4:39) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(4:31) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(4:31) [SAN] D. Brown Substitution replaced by Ginobili

(with Devin: +1)

(4:17) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(4:16) [LAL 37-27] Malone Layup Shot: Made (8 PTS)
(4:16) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(4:16) [SAN] Bowen Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(4:16) [LAL] Malone Free Throw 1 of 1 missed
(4:15) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(4:04) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(4:02) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(3:44) [LAL] Team Timeout: Short
(3:38) [LAL 39-27] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (14 PTS)
(3:23) [SAN 30-39] Bowen Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Parker (3 AST)
(3:07) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(3:07) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Horry
(3:07) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(3:07) [LAL] Team Rebound
(3:07) [LAL] Malone Substitution replaced by Fisher
(3:07) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(3:06) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(2:57) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(2:57) [LAL] Team Rebound
(2:57) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(2:57) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Malone
(2:36) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(2:34) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(2:15) [SAN] Duncan Layup Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (4 BLK)
(2:14) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:2 Def:0)
(2:07) [SAN] Ginobili Layup Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (5 BLK)
(2:05) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:3 Def:6)
(1:53) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Lost Ball Possession (3 TO)
(1:50) [LAL] Bryant Foul: Loose Ball (2 PF)
(1:40) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(1:38) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(1:32) [LAL] Payton Turnover: Traveling (3 TO)
(1:15) [SAN 32-39] Duncan Hook Shot: Made (2 PTS)
(1:00) [LAL 41-32] O'Neal Driving Layup: Made (14 PTS) Assist: Bryant (4 AST)
(1:00) [SAN] Bowen Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(1:00) [LAL] Malone Substitution replaced by George
(1:00) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by Turkoglu
(1:00) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: -1)

(1:00) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 1 missed
(0:58) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(0:47) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(0:45) [LAL] Fisher Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(0:38) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(0:38) [LAL 42-32] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (15 PTS)
(0:38) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Malone
(0:38) [LAL] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(0:37) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(0:28) [SAN] Parker Running Jump: Missed
(0:25) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:5)
(0:00) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [SAN] Team Rebound
(0:00) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [SAN] Team Rebound
(0:00) End Period

(with Devin: -1)

3rd Period
(11:46) [SAN] Turkoglu Foul: Offensive (2 PF)
(11:46) [SAN] Turkoglu Turnover: Foul (1 TO)
(11:32) [LAL 44-32] O'Neal Layup Shot: Made (16 PTS) Assist: Bryant (5 AST)
(11:13) [LAL] Malone Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(10:59) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Bad Pass (3 TO)
(10:41) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: 3 Second Violation (2 TO)
(10:25) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed
(10:23) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(10:15) [LAL 46-32] Malone Jump Shot: Made (10 PTS)
(9:58) [LAL] George Foul: Illegal Defense (1 PF)
(9:58) [SAN 33-46] Turkoglu Free Throw Technical (4 PTS)
(9:51) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(9:49) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(9:44) [SAN 35-46] Duncan Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS)
(9:27) [LAL 48-35] Payton Layup Shot: Made (5 PTS) Assist: Malone (4 AST)
(9:06) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(9:05) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(8:55) [SAN] Bowen Layup Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (6 BLK)
(8:52) [SAN 37-48] Duncan Layup Shot: Made (6 PTS)
(8:52) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:3 Def:4)
(8:31) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(8:31) [LAL 49-37] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 (17 PTS)
(8:31) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Willis
(8:31) [LAL 50-37] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 (18 PTS)
(8:15) [SAN 40-50] Bowen Jump Shot: Made (9 PTS) Assist: Parker (4 AST)
(7:57) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(7:57) [SAN] Team Rebound
(7:57) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Loose Ball (2 PF)
(7:41) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Lost Ball (5 TO) Steal: Bryant (2 ST)
(7:35) [SAN] Willis Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(7:35) [LAL 51-40] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 (19 PTS)
(7:35) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(7:33) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:3 Def:5)
(7:22) [LAL] George Foul: Illegal Defense (1 PF)
(7:22) [SAN] Turkoglu Free Throw Technical missed
(7:22) [SAN] Team Rebound
(7:09) [SAN] Willis Jump Shot: Missed
(7:07) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:6)
(7:00) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(7:00) [LAL] George Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(7:00) [LAL] Team Rebound
(7:00) [LAL] George Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(6:59) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:3 Def:6)
(6:43) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(6:42) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(6:30) [LAL 53-40] O'Neal Slam Dunk Shot: Made (21 PTS) Assist: Malone (5 AST)
(6:30) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(6:30) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 1 missed
(6:29) [SAN] Willis Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(6:15) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(6:15) [SAN] Parker Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(6:15) [SAN] Team Rebound
(6:15) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(6:15) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Horry
(6:15) [SAN] Willis Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(6:15) [SAN] Parker Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(6:14) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:3 Def:7)
(5:59) [LAL] Payton Turnover: Bad Pass (4 TO) Steal: Bowen (1 ST)
(5:53) [LAL] George Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(5:47) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(5:45) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(5:43) [SAN] Horry Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(5:43) [LAL 54-40] George Free Throw 1 of 2 (1 PTS)
(5:43) [LAL 55-40] George Free Throw 2 of 2 (2 PTS)
(5:28) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(5:26) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:3 Def:8)
(5:15) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(5:13) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:3 Def:7)
(5:00) [SAN 42-55] Parker Reverse Layup: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Duncan (2 AST)
(4:47) [LAL 57-42] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (17 PTS) Assist: O'Neal (2 AST)
(4:32) [LAL] George Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(4:32) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Rush
(4:32) [SAN 43-57] Horry Free Throw 1 of 2 (1 PTS)
(4:32) [SAN 44-57] Horry Free Throw 2 of 2 (2 PTS)
(4:15) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(4:13) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:3 Def:8)
(4:10) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Bad Pass (6 TO) Steal: Rush (2 ST)
(4:06) [LAL 60-44] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (20 PTS) Assist: Rush (1 AST)
(3:55) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(3:55) [LAL] Malone Substitution replaced by George
(3:50) [LAL] Bryant Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(3:50) [SAN] Ginobili Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(3:50) [SAN] Team Rebound
(3:50) [SAN 45-60] Ginobili Free Throw 2 of 2 (10 PTS)
(3:31) [LAL 62-45] O'Neal Hook Shot: Made (23 PTS) Assist: Rush (2 AST)
(3:11) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(3:09) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(2:59) [LAL 65-45] George Jump Shot: Made (5 PTS) Assist: O'Neal (3 AST)
(2:41) [SAN] Parker Driving Layup: Missed Block: O'Neal (7 BLK)
(2:38) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:3 Def:9)
(2:38) [LAL 67-45] Payton Driving Layup: Made (7 PTS) Assist: O'Neal (4 AST)
(2:38) [SAN] Bowen Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(2:38) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Malone
(2:38) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: -12)

(2:38) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Rose
(2:38) [LAL 68-45] Payton Free Throw 1 of 1 (8 PTS)
(2:26) [SAN 47-68] D. Brown Layup Shot: Made (10 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (1 AST)
(2:26) [LAL] George Foul: Shooting (4 PF)
(2:26) [SAN] Parker Substitution replaced by Turkoglu
(2:26) [SAN] D. Brown Free Throw 1 of 1 missed
(2:26) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(2:13) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(2:13) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Walton
(2:13) [LAL 69-47] Payton Free Throw 1 of 2 (9 PTS)
(2:13) [LAL 70-47] Payton Free Throw 2 of 2 (10 PTS)
(2:03) [SAN] Duncan Hook Shot: Missed
(2:02) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:4 Def:8)
(2:01) [SAN 49-70] Duncan Layup Shot: Made (8 PTS)
(1:43) [LAL] Walton Jump Shot: Missed
(1:42) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(1:34) [LAL] Walton Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(1:34) [SAN] Rose Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(1:34) [SAN] Team Rebound
(1:34) [SAN 50-70] Rose Free Throw 2 of 2 (1 PTS)
(1:23) [SAN] Turkoglu Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(1:23) [LAL] Payton Substitution replaced by Fisher
(1:23) [LAL] Malone Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(1:23) [LAL] Team Rebound
(1:23) [LAL 71-50] Malone Free Throw 2 of 2 (11 PTS)
(1:11) [SAN 52-71] Rose Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (2 AST)
(0:58) [LAL] Fisher Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal: Ginobili (2 ST)
(0:55) [SAN 54-71] D. Brown Slam Dunk Shot: Made (12 PTS)
(0:52) [SAN] Rose Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(0:52) [LAL 72-54] Walton Free Throw 1 of 2 (1 PTS)
(0:52) [LAL 73-54] Walton Free Throw 2 of 2 (2 PTS)
(0:43) [LAL] Rush Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(0:43) [SAN] Ginobili Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(0:43) [SAN] Team Rebound
(0:43) [SAN 55-73] Ginobili Free Throw 2 of 2 (11 PTS)
(0:33) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(0:33) [LAL 74-55] Fisher Free Throw 1 of 2 (3 PTS)
(0:33) [LAL 75-55] Fisher Free Throw 2 of 2 (4 PTS)
(0:25) [SAN 58-75] Ginobili Jump Shot: Made (14 PTS) Assist: Turkoglu (2 AST)
(0:04) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Lost Ball (4 TO) Steal: Rose (1 ST)
(0:00) [SAN] Rose Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [SAN] Team Rebound
(0:00) End Period

4th Period
(11:54) [LAL] Payton Foul: Offensive (2 PF)
(11:54) [LAL] Payton Turnover: Foul (5 TO)
(11:42) [SAN 61-75] Ginobili Jump Shot: Made (17 PTS) Assist: Turkoglu (3 AST)
(11:30) [LAL] Medvedenko Turnover: Lost Ball (1 TO) Steal: D. Brown (1 ST)
(11:23) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(11:22) [SAN] Rose Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(11:17) [SAN] D. Brown Jump Shot: Missed
(11:15) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:5 Def:8)
(11:03) [SAN] D. Brown Driving Layup: Missed
(10:59) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(10:59) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:2 Def:2)
(10:57) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:2 Def:2)
(10:54) [SAN] D. Brown Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Payton (1 ST)
(10:48) [LAL] Medvedenko Running Jump: Missed
(10:46) [SAN] Rose Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(10:39) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(10:37) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:3 Def:10)
(10:21) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(10:09) [LAL] Fisher Driving Layup: Missed
(10:07) [SAN] Rose Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(9:57) [LAL] Fox Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(9:57) [SAN 62-75] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (9 PTS)
(9:57) [LAL] Fox Substitution replaced by Bryant
(9:57) [SAN 63-75] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (10 PTS)
(9:47) [LAL 77-63] Medvedenko Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Payton (6 AST)
(9:26) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(9:25) [SAN] Rose Rebound (Off:2 Def:2)
(9:22) [SAN] Rose Layup Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (8 BLK)
(9:20) [LAL] Fisher Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(9:16) [LAL 80-63] Payton Jump Shot: Made (13 PTS) Assist: Fisher (2 AST)
(9:13) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(9:13) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Bowen
(9:13) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(9:13) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by Parker
(8:56) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(8:54) [SAN] Parker Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(8:42) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed
(8:40) [SAN] Rose Rebound (Off:3 Def:2)
(8:40) [LAL] Medvedenko Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(8:29) [SAN] Rose Jump Shot: Missed
(8:27) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:3 Def:11)
(8:13) [LAL 82-63] Medvedenko Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Payton (7 AST)
(8:02) [SAN] Nesterovic Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal: Fisher (1 ST)
(7:57) [LAL 84-63] Fisher Driving Layup: Made (6 PTS)
(7:39) [SAN] Nesterovic Turnover: Bad Pass (3 TO)
(7:25) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(7:25) [LAL 85-63] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (21 PTS)
(7:25) [LAL] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(7:23) [SAN] Rose Rebound (Off:3 Def:3)
(7:01) [SAN] Team Turnover: 24 Second Violation ( TO)
(6:43) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(6:41) [LAL] Medvedenko Rebound (Off:2 Def:0)
(6:37) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(6:35) [LAL] Medvedenko Rebound (Off:3 Def:0)
(6:33) [LAL] Medvedenko Layup Shot: Missed
(6:30) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:2 Def:3)
(6:25) [SAN 65-85] Parker Layup Shot: Made (8 PTS)
(6:25) [LAL] Bryant Violation: Defensive Goaltending
(6:09) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (4 PF)
(6:09) [LAL 86-65] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 (24 PTS)
(6:09) [LAL] Medvedenko Substitution replaced by Malone
(6:09) [LAL 87-65] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 (25 PTS)
(5:57) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed
(5:56) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(5:52) [SAN] Rose Jump Shot: Missed
(5:50) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:3 Def:12)
(5:46) [LAL 89-65] Payton Driving Layup: Made (15 PTS) Assist: O'Neal (5 AST)
(5:29) [SAN 68-89] D. Brown Jump Shot: Made (15 PTS) Assist: Parker (5 AST)
(5:21) [LAL 91-68] O'Neal Dunk Shot: Made (27 PTS) Assist: Bryant (6 AST)
(5:21) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (5 PF)
(5:21) Timeout: Official
(5:21) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Willis
(5:21) [SAN] Parker Substitution replaced by Ward
(5:21) [LAL 100-78] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 1 (28 PTS)
(5:10) [SAN] Ward Turnover: Lost Ball (1 TO) Steal: Fisher (2 ST)
(5:10) [SAN] Ward Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(5:10) [LAL 93-68] Fisher Free Throw 1 of 2 (7 PTS)
(5:10) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Cook
(5:10) [LAL 94-68] Fisher Free Throw 2 of 2 (8 PTS)
(4:55) [SAN] Ward Jump Shot: Missed
(4:55) [LAL] Team Rebound
(4:55) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by Hart
(4:42) [LAL] Cook Jump Shot: Missed
(4:41) [LAL 96-68] Malone Tip Shot: Made (13 PTS)
(4:41) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(4:24) [SAN] Rose Turnover: Lost Ball Possession (1 TO)
(4:24) [LAL] Payton Substitution replaced by Rush
(4:12) [LAL] Malone Turnover: Lost Ball (2 TO) Steal: Ward (1 ST)
(4:03) [SAN 70-96] Willis Hook Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: D. Brown (1 AST)
(3:50) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Bad Pass (5 TO)
(3:39) [LAL] Cook Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(3:31) [LAL] Malone Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(3:31) [SAN] Rose Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(3:31) [SAN] Team Rebound
(3:31) [LAL] Malone Substitution replaced by Russell
(3:31) [SAN 71-96] Rose Free Throw 2 of 2 (4 PTS)
(3:15) [LAL] Russell Jump Shot: Missed
(3:13) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(3:09) [SAN 73-96] Willis Layup Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Rose (1 AST)
(3:09) [LAL] Cook Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(3:09) [SAN] Willis Free Throw 1 of 1 missed
(3:08) [SAN] Rose Rebound (Off:4 Def:3)
(3:04) [SAN 76-96] Ward Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Rose (2 AST)
(2:45) [LAL 98-76] Rush Driving Layup: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Russell (1 AST)
(2:32) [SAN] Rose Jump Shot: Missed
(2:30) [LAL] Fisher Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(2:18) [LAL 100-76] Cook Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS)
(2:00) [SAN 78-100] Hart Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS)
(1:45) [LAL] Cook Jump Shot: Missed
(1:43) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:2 Def:5)
(1:37) [SAN] Ward Jump Shot: Missed
(1:35) [LAL] Cook Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(1:24) [SAN] Willis Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(1:24) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(1:24) [LAL] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(1:24) [LAL] Team Rebound
(1:24) [LAL 101-78] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 (22 PTS)
(1:08) [LAL] Fisher Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(1:08) [LAL] Bryant Substitution replaced by Walton
(1:08) [SAN] D. Brown Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(1:08) [SAN] Team Rebound
(1:08) [SAN 79-101] D. Brown Free Throw 2 of 2 (16 PTS)
(0:55) [LAL 103-79] Rush Turnaround Jump: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Walton (1 AST)
(0:46) [SAN] Hart Layup Shot: Missed
(0:44) [LAL] Cook Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(0:30) [SAN] Ward Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(0:30) [LAL 104-79] Rush Free Throw 1 of 3 (5 PTS)
(0:30) [LAL] Rush Free Throw 2 of 3 missed
(0:30) [LAL] Team Rebound
(0:30) [LAL 105-81] Rush Free Throw 3 of 3 (6 PTS)
(0:16) [SAN 81-105] Ward Jump Shot: Made (5 PTS)
(0:00) End Period

(with Devin: +6)
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Total:
With Devin: +6
Without Devin: -22
Net Total: +28

Minutes played: 24
Points scored: 16
FG: 6-10
3PT: 2-3
FT: 2-4
7 rebounds

Karl Mundt
06-19-2005, 06:52 AM
GAME 4
Lakers 98, Spurs 90


1st Period
(12:00) Jump Ball O'Neal vs Duncan
(11:45) [LAL] Malone Driving Layup: Missed
(11:44) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(11:38) [SAN 2-0] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Parker (1 AST)
(11:25) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(11:25) [LAL] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(11:25) [LAL] Team Rebound
(11:25) [LAL 1-2] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 (1 PTS)
(11:01) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(10:58) [SAN] Bowen Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(10:41) [SAN] Nesterovic Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO)
(10:25) [LAL 3-2] Malone Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Payton (1 AST)
(10:15) [LAL] Payton Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(9:57) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(9:56) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(9:47) [LAL 6-2] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: George (1 AST)
(9:43) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(9:32) [SAN] Turkoglu Layup Shot: Missed
(9:31) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(9:17) [LAL 8-2] Payton Turnaround Jump: Made (2 PTS)
(9:04) [SAN 4-8] Turkoglu Driving Layup: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Parker (2 AST)
(8:41) [LAL] O'Neal Turnaround Jump: Missed
(8:39) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(8:22) [SAN 6-8] Parker Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Duncan (1 AST)
(8:05) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(8:03) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(7:55) [SAN 9-8] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Made (5 PTS) Assist: Parker (3 AST)
(7:22) [LAL 10-9] O'Neal Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Bryant (1 AST)
(6:59) [SAN] Bowen Driving Layup: Missed
(6:58) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(6:50) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(6:50) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(6:50) [LAL] Team Rebound
(6:50) [LAL 11-9] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 (3 PTS)
(6:31) [SAN] Duncan Dunk Shot: Missed
(6:31) [LAL] Team Rebound
(6:17) [LAL 13-9] Payton Driving Finger Roll: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Malone (1 AS
(6:03) [SAN 11-13] Bowen Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Duncan (2 AST)
(5:49) [LAL] Bryant Layup Shot: Missed
(5:47) [SAN] Bowen Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(5:40) [SAN 14-13] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Nesterovic (1 AST)
(5:23) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(5:21) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(5:15) [SAN] Turkoglu Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: George (1 ST)
(5:09) [LAL] Payton Turnaround Jump: Missed
(5:08) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(4:59) [SAN 17-13] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Made (11 PTS) Assist: Parker (4 AST)
(4:54) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(4:54) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(4:54) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Horry
(4:38) [LAL] O'Neal Turnaround Hook Shot: Missed
(4:36) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(4:26) [SAN 20-13] Ginobili Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Horry (1 AST)
(4:03) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(4:02) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(4:01) [SAN] Turkoglu Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(4:01) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(4:01) [LAL] Team Rebound
(4:01) [LAL 14-20] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 (4 PTS)
(3:48) [SAN 22-14] Duncan (2 PTS)
(3:31) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(3:29) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(3:21) [LAL] Bryant Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(3:21) [SAN 23-14] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (3 PTS)
(3:21) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Fisher
(3:21) [SAN 24-14] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (4 PTS)
(3:05) [LAL 16-24] O'Neal Slam Dunk Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Malone (2 AST)
(2:40) [SAN] Duncan Turnaround Jump: Missed
(2:36) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(2:24) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(2:22) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(2:10) [SAN 27-16] Ginobili Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Duncan (3 AST)
(1:59) [LAL] Fisher Layup Shot: Missed
(1:58) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(1:50) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(1:48) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(1:40) [LAL 18-27] Malone Layup Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Bryant (2 AST)
(1:24) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(1:22) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(1:17) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(1:17) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(1:17) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Bowen
(1:17) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Medvedenko
(1:17) [LAL 19-27] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (5 PTS)
(1:17) [LAL 20-27] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 (6 PTS)
(0:55) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed
(0:53) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(0:39) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(0:39) [LAL 21-27] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (7 PTS)
(0:39) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: +6)

(0:39) [LAL] Payton Substitution replaced by Rush
(0:39) [LAL] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(0:38) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(0:27) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(0:25) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(0:05) [LAL] Bryant Layup Shot: Missed Block: Bowen (1 BLK)
(0:03) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(0:01) [LAL] Fisher Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(0:00) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [SAN] Team Rebound
(0:00) End Period

2nd Period
(11:45) [SAN 29-21] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: D. Brown (1 AST)
(11:24) [LAL] Medvedenko Jump Shot: Missed
(11:22) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(11:03) [SAN] Nesterovic Hook Shot: Missed
(11:00) [LAL] Medvedenko Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(10:46) [LAL] Rush Jump Shot: Missed
(10:44) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(10:32) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed
(10:30) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(10:25) [SAN 31-21] Duncan (6 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (1 AST)
(10:06) [LAL 23-31] Medvedenko Driving Layup: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Rush (1 AST)
(9:55) [LAL] Medvedenko Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(9:55) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by Turkoglu
(9:47) [LAL] Medvedenko Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(9:47) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(9:47) [SAN] Team Rebound
(9:47) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(9:46) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(9:29) [LAL] O'Neal Jump Shot: Missed
(9:27) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(9:18) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(9:16) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:2 Def:3)
(9:13) [SAN] Nesterovic Layup Shot: Missed
(9:12) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:3 Def:3)
(9:09) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(9:07) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:4 Def:3)
(8:54) [SAN 33-23] Ginobili Layup Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Duncan (4 AST)
(8:33) [SAN] Turkoglu Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(8:33) Timeout: Official
(8:33) [LAL] Fisher Substitution replaced by Bryant
(8:33) [LAL] Medvedenko Substitution replaced by Payton
(8:33) [LAL] Rush Substitution replaced by Malone
(8:33) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Parker
(8:33) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by Bowen
(8:33) [LAL 24-33] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 (7 PTS)
(8:33) [LAL 25-33] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 (8 PTS)
(8:24) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Bryant (1 ST)
(8:08) [LAL 27-33] O'Neal (10 PTS) Assist: Payton (2 AST)
(7:51) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Payton (1 ST)
(7:42) [LAL 29-33] Bryant Driving Dunk: Made (9 PTS)
(7:39) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(7:24) [SAN 35-29] Parker Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Duncan (5 AST)
(7:08) [SAN] D. Brown Substitution replaced by Ginobili

(with Devin: 0)

(6:59) [LAL 31-35] Bryant Running Jump: Made (11 PTS) Assist: O'Neal (1 AST)
(6:40) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(6:39) [SAN] Team Rebound
(6:36) [SAN 37-31] Parker Layup Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Duncan (6 AST)
(6:24) [SAN] Parker Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(6:10) [LAL 33-37] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (13 PTS) Assist: Payton (3 AST)
(5:49) [SAN 39-33] Nesterovic Hook Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (2 AST)
(5:36) [LAL 35-39] Payton Driving Layup: Made (6 PTS)
(5:29) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Lost Ball Out of Bounds (2 TO)
(5:29) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Loose Ball (2 PF)
(5:14) [LAL 37-39] O'Neal Slam Dunk Shot: Made (12 PTS) Assist: Bryant (3 AST)
(4:57) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(4:55) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(4:40) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(4:38) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(4:30) [SAN 41-37] Ginobili Driving Layup: Made (10 PTS) Assist: Duncan (7 AST)
(4:30) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(4:30) [SAN] Ginobili Free Throw 1 of 1 missed
(4:28) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(4:05) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(4:02) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(3:48) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed
(3:45) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(3:36) [LAL 39-41] Bryant Turnaround Jump: Made (15 PTS)
(3:36) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Rose
(3:36) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by Turkoglu
(3:36) [LAL 40-41] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 1 (16 PTS)
(3:36) [SAN] Bowen Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(3:23) [SAN 43-40] Parker Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS)
(3:11) [LAL] Bryant Layup Shot: Missed Block: Nesterovic (1 BLK)
(3:09) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:0 Def:5)
(2:57) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed
(2:55) [SAN] Team Rebound
(2:55) [LAL] Malone Foul: Loose Ball (1 PF)
(2:55) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(2:55) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Duncan
(2:47) [LAL] Payton Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(2:47) [SAN 44-40] Ginobili Free Throw 1 of 2 (11 PTS)
(2:47) [SAN 45-40] Ginobili Free Throw 2 of 2 (12 PTS)
(2:30) [LAL] O'Neal Hook Shot: Missed
(2:30) [SAN] Team Rebound
(2:30) [LAL] Bryant Foul: Loose Ball (2 PF)
(2:30) [SAN 46-40] Turkoglu Free Throw 1 of 2 (12 PTS)
(2:30) [SAN 47-40] Turkoglu Free Throw 2 of 2 (13 PTS)
(2:14) [SAN] Turkoglu Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(2:14) [LAL 41-47] George Free Throw 1 of 2 (1 PTS)
(2:14) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: 0)

(2:14) [LAL] George Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(2:13) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:4 Def:4)
(1:55) [SAN 49-41] Parker Jump Shot: Made (10 PTS) Assist: Duncan (8 AST)
(1:38) [LAL] Malone Turnover: Lost Ball (1 TO) Steal: Parker (1 ST)
(1:33) [SAN 51-41] Duncan Slam Dunk Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: D. Brown (2 AST)
(1:13) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: Traveling (1 TO)
(1:01) [SAN] Team Timeout: Short
(0:49) [SAN] D. Brown Layup Shot: Missed Block: Bryant (1 BLK)
(0:47) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(0:46) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(0:46) [LAL 42-51] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (17 PTS)
(0:46) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Rush
(0:46) [LAL 43-51] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 (18 PTS)
(0:26) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (1 BLK)
(0:23) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(0:23) [SAN 53-43] Ginobili Layup Shot: Made (14 PTS)
(0:00) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [LAL] Team Rebound
(0:00) End Period

(with Devin: +4)

3rd Period
(11:39) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(11:37) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(11:28) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(11:28) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(11:28) [LAL] Team Rebound
(11:28) [SAN] Nesterovic Violation: Lane
(11:28) [LAL 44-53] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 (13 PTS)
(11:15) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(11:13) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(11:02) [LAL 46-53] Payton Driving Layup: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Malone (3 AST)
(10:44) [SAN] Nesterovic Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO)
(10:36) [LAL] Payton Foul: Offensive (3 PF)
(10:36) [LAL] Payton Turnover: Foul (1 TO)
(10:19) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(10:17) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:1 Def:5)
(10:15) [SAN 55-46] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Parker (5 AST)
(9:46) [LAL 48-55] Bryant Fade Away: Made (20 PTS) Assist: Malone (4 AST)
(9:32) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(9:29) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(9:14) [LAL 50-55] Bryant (22 PTS)
(9:14) [SAN] Bowen Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(9:14) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(9:14) [LAL] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 1 missed
(9:12) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(8:56) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(8:54) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:2 Def:3)
(8:48) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO)
(8:29) [LAL] George Jump Shot: Missed
(8:27) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:2 Def:3)
(8:25) [LAL] O'Neal Hook Shot: Missed
(8:22) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(8:19) [SAN] Ginobili Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Bryant (2 ST)
(8:12) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: Lost Ball (2 TO) Steal: Turkoglu (1 ST)
(8:09) [LAL] George Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(8:01) [SAN 57-50] Duncan Jump Shot: Made (10 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (3 AST)
(7:49) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(7:41) [LAL] Payton Layup Shot: Missed
(7:41) [LAL] Team Rebound
(7:41) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: -3)

(7:41) [LAL] Team Turnover: 5 Second Violation ( TO)
(7:28) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(7:26) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(7:21) [LAL 52-57] Malone Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Payton (4 AST)
(7:02) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(7:02) [SAN] Team Rebound
(7:02) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Loose Ball (2 PF)
(6:58) [SAN 59-52] Nesterovic Slam Dunk Shot: Made (10 PTS) Assist: Parker (6 A
(6:36) [LAL] O'Neal Layup Shot: Missed Block: Duncan (1 BLK)
(6:35) [LAL] Team Rebound
(6:35) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Loose Ball (2 PF)
(6:22) [LAL 54-59] O'Neal Layup Shot: Made (15 PTS) Assist: Malone (5 AST)
(5:54) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(5:53) [SAN] Team Rebound
(5:53) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(5:44) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(5:42) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:5)
(5:24) [LAL 56-59] O'Neal Jump Hook: Made (17 PTS) Assist: George (2 AST)
(5:05) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(5:05) [SAN 60-56] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (11 PTS)
(5:05) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Rush
(5:05) [SAN 61-56] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (12 PTS)
(4:50) [LAL 58-61] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (24 PTS)
(4:31) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(4:29) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:5)
(4:11) [LAL] Payton Driving Finger Roll: Missed
(4:09) [LAL 60-61] Malone Tip Shot: Made (8 PTS)
(4:09) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:1 Def:5)
(3:54) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(3:52) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:2 Def:5)
(3:45) [LAL 62-61] O'Neal Layup Shot: Made (19 PTS) Assist: Payton (5 AST)
(3:45) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(3:45) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(3:45) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Rose
(3:45) [SAN] Rose Violation: Lane
(3:45) [LAL 63-61] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 1 (20 PTS)
(3:28) [SAN 64-63] Parker Jump Shot: Made (13 PTS) Assist: Rose (1 AST)
(3:12) [LAL 65-64] O'Neal Turnaround Jump: Made (22 PTS) Assist: Bryant (4 AST)
(2:54) [SAN] D. Brown Layup Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (2 BLK)
(2:51) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:2 Def:6)
(2:37) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(2:37) [TBD] Timeout: Regular
(2:37) [SAN] POPOVICH Foul: Technical ( PF)
(2:37) [LAL 66-64] Bryant Free Throw Technical (25 PTS)
(2:37) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Duncan
(2:37) [LAL 67-64] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 (23 PTS)
(2:37) [LAL 68-64] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 (24 PTS)
(2:20) [SAN 66-68] Ginobili Driving Layup: Made (16 PTS)
(1:56) [LAL] Bryant Layup Shot: Missed
(1:54) [LAL 70-66] O'Neal Slam Dunk Shot: Made (26 PTS)
(1:54) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:3 Def:6)
(1:35) [LAL] Bryant Foul: Illegal Defense (2 PF)
(1:35) [SAN 67-70] Ginobili Free Throw Technical (17 PTS)
(1:32) [LAL] Rush Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(1:24) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(1:22) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:3 Def:7)
(1:02) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(0:59) [SAN] Rose Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(0:49) [LAL] Payton Substitution replaced by Fisher
(0:46) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(0:44) [LAL] Team Rebound
(0:44) [SAN] Parker Foul: Loose Ball (2 PF)
(0:44) [LAL 71-67] Fisher Free Throw 1 of 2 (1 PTS)
(0:44) [LAL 72-67] Fisher Free Throw 2 of 2 (2 PTS)
(0:32) [LAL] Fisher Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(0:32) [SAN 68-72] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (13 PTS)
(0:32) [SAN 69-72] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (14 PTS)
(0:23) [LAL 74-69] Bryant Driving Dunk: Made (27 PTS) Assist: Malone (6 AST)
(0:02) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:3 Def:8)
(0:00) End Period

(with Devin: -12)

4th Period
(12:00) [LAL] Team Timeout: Short
(11:48) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(11:46) [LAL 76-69] Medvedenko Tip Shot: Made (4 PTS)
(11:46) [LAL] Medvedenko Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(11:37) [LAL] Fisher Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(11:27) [SAN 71-76] Rose Slam Dunk Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (4 AST)
(10:57) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(10:57) [SAN] Team Rebound
(10:43) [SAN 73-76] Ginobili Driving Layup: Made (19 PTS)
(10:28) [LAL] Rush Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Duncan (1 ST)
(10:26) [LAL] Malone Substitution replaced by O'Neal
(10:26) Jump Ball Bryant vs Ginobili
(10:26) [SAN] Ginobili Turnover: Lost Ball (2 TO) Steal: Bryant (3 ST)
(10:15) [LAL 78-73] O'Neal Layup Shot: Made (28 PTS) Assist: Bryant (5 AST)
(9:47) [SAN] Rose Jump Shot: Missed
(9:45) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:6)
(9:38) [LAL] Medvedenko Jump Shot: Missed
(9:36) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:2 Def:5)
(9:27) [SAN] Ginobili Layup Shot: Missed
(9:26) [LAL] Medvedenko Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(9:10) [LAL] O'Neal Hook Shot: Missed
(9:09) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:8)
(9:09) [SAN] Rose Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(9:09) [SAN] Rose Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(8:55) [LAL 81-73] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (30 PTS) Assist: O'Neal (2 AST)
(8:47) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(8:47) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by Parker
(8:47) [LAL] Rush Substitution replaced by George
(8:32) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(8:30) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:9)
(8:10) [LAL 83-73] Bryant Reverse Layup: Made (32 PTS)
(7:57) [SAN 75-83] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Made (12 PTS) Assist: Parker (7 AST)
(7:46) [LAL 85-75] Fisher Running Jump: Made (4 PTS)
(7:26) [SAN 78-85] Parker Jump Shot: Made (16 PTS)
(7:06) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(7:06) [LAL] Fisher Substitution replaced by Payton
(7:06) [LAL 86-78] Medvedenko Free Throw 1 of 2 (5 PTS)
(7:06) [LAL 87-78] Medvedenko Free Throw 2 of 2 (6 PTS)
(7:06) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(6:56) [LAL] Medvedenko Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(6:56) [LAL] Medvedenko Substitution replaced by Malone
(6:56) [SAN 79-87] Parker Free Throw 1 of 2 (17 PTS)
(6:56) [SAN 80-87] Parker Free Throw 2 of 2 (18 PTS)
(6:43) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Shooting (4 PF)
(6:43) [LAL 88-80] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (33 PTS)
(6:43) [LAL 89-80] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 (34 PTS)
(6:33) [SAN] Turkoglu Turnover: Lost Ball Out of Bounds (2 TO)
(6:12) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(6:10) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:0 Def:5)
(5:58) [SAN 83-89] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Made (16 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (5 AST)
(5:37) [LAL 91-83] Bryant (36 PTS)
(5:27) [LAL] Payton Foul: Personal (4 PF)
(5:27) Timeout: Official
(5:27) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Horry
(5:27) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Fisher
(5:17) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (4 PF)
(5:17) [SAN 84-91] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (15 PTS)
(5:17) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(5:15) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:1 Def:6)
(5:01) [LAL 93-84] Bryant Fade Away: Made (38 PTS)
(4:41) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Bad Pass (3 TO) Steal: Fisher (1 ST)
(4:41) [SAN] Parker Foul: Loose Ball (3 PF)
(4:25) [LAL] Malone Turnover: Lost Ball (2 TO) Steal: Ginobili (1 ST)
(4:10) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(4:07) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(4:05) [SAN] Horry Jump Shot: Missed
(4:02) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:0 Def:5)
(4:01) [SAN] Horry Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(4:01) [LAL 94-84] Malone Free Throw 1 of 2 (9 PTS)
(4:01) [LAL] Malone Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(4:00) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:0 Def:6)
(3:45) [SAN] Ginobili Layup Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (3 BLK)
(3:43) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:2 Def:3)
(3:39) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(3:38) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:3 Def:3)
(3:38) [SAN] Horry Foul: Offensive (2 PF)
(3:38) [SAN] Horry Turnover: Foul (1 TO)
(3:38) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(3:26) [LAL 96-84] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (40 PTS)
(3:18) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(3:18) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Duncan
(3:09) [LAL] Malone Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(3:09) [SAN 85-96] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (16 PTS)
(3:09) [SAN 86-96] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (17 PTS)
(2:51) [LAL 98-86] Bryant Driving Finger Roll: Made (42 PTS)
(2:31) [SAN 88-98] Duncan Jump Shot: Made (19 PTS) Assist: Parker (8 AST)
(2:14) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(2:12) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:2 Def:6)
(2:05) [LAL] Payton Foul: Personal (5 PF)
(2:05) [SAN 89-98] Ginobili Free Throw 1 of 2 (20 PTS)
(2:05) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(2:05) [SAN 90-98] Ginobili Free Throw 2 of 2 (21 PTS)
(1:51) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(1:49) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:4 Def:5)
(1:30) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(1:28) [SAN] Nesterovic Layup Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (4 BLK)
(1:28) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:2 Def:5)
(1:26) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:10)
(1:04) [LAL] Team Turnover: 24 Second Violation ( TO)
(0:55) [SAN] Parker Layup Shot: Missed
(0:54) [LAL] Fisher Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(0:31) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(0:29) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:0 Def:7)
(0:26) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Lost Ball (4 TO) Steal: Payton (2 ST)
(0:01) [LAL] O'Neal Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:4 Def:6)
(0:00) End Period

(without Devin: -3)
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Total:
With Devin: -8
Without Devin: 0
Net Total: -8

Minutes played: 16
Points scored: 0
FG: 0-2
3PT: 0-0
FT: 0-0

Karl Mundt
06-19-2005, 06:53 AM
GAME 5
Spurs 73, Lakers 74


1st Period
(12:00) Jump Ball Duncan vs O'Neal
(11:36) [LAL 2-0] O'Neal (2 PTS)
(11:21) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(11:19) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(11:08) [LAL] Malone Fade Away: Missed
(11:06) [SAN] Bowen Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(10:56) [SAN 5-2] Duncan Turnaround Jump: Made (2 PTS)
(10:38) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Traveling (1 TO)
(10:25) [SAN 5-2] Bowen Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Parker (1 AST)
(10:07) [LAL 4-5] Bryant Fade Away: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Payton (1 AST)
(9:53) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(9:51) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(9:38) [LAL 6-5] Malone Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Payton (2 AST)
(9:27) [SAN] Duncan Fade Away: Missed
(9:25) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(9:16) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(9:14) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(9:03) [SAN 7-6] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Turkoglu (1 AST)
(8:42) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed Block: Duncan (1 BLK)
(8:39) [SAN] Parker Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(8:33) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(8:31) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(8:29) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(8:27) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(8:08) [LAL 9-7] George Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Bryant (1 AST)
(7:52) [SAN 9-9] Duncan (4 PTS)
(7:33) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(7:33) [LAL 10-9] Payton Free Throw 1 of 2 (1 PTS)
(7:33) [LAL] Payton Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(7:31) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(7:15) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: George (1 ST)
(6:56) [LAL 12-9] Malone Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Bryant (2 AST)
(6:34) [SAN] Nesterovic Hook Shot: Missed
(6:32) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(6:27) [LAL 14-9] George Jump Shot: Made (5 PTS)
(6:27) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(6:27) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(6:04) [SAN 11-14] Parker Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS)
(5:42) [LAL 16-11] O'Neal Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS)
(5:28) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (1 BLK)
(5:26) [SAN] Duncan Layup Shot: Missed
(5:26) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:2 Def:1)
(5:23) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(5:14) [LAL] Bryant Layup Shot: Missed Block: Duncan (2 BLK)
(5:11) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:2 Def:2)
(5:05) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(5:03) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(5:01) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(4:58) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(4:54) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(4:51) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(4:37) [LAL] Malone Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(4:37) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Horry
(4:37) [SAN 12-16] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (5 PTS)
(4:37) [SAN 13-16] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (6 PTS)
(4:19) [LAL 20-16] Bryant Driving Layup: Made (4 PTS)
(4:04) [SAN 15-18] Ginobili Driving Finger Roll: Made (2 PTS)
(3:48) [LAL] George Turnover: Lost Ball (1 TO) Steal: Ginobili (1 ST)
(3:41) [LAL] George Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(3:41) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(3:41) [SAN] Team Rebound
(3:41) [LAL] Malone Substitution replaced by Medvedenko
(3:41) [SAN 16-18] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (7 PTS)
(3:26) [LAL 20-16] Payton Running Hook Shot: Made (3 PTS)
(3:10) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(3:08) [LAL] Medvedenko Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(2:53) [LAL] George Jump Shot: Missed
(2:51) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:2 Def:3)
(2:38) [SAN 18-20] Duncan Jump Shot: Made (9 PTS) Assist: Bowen (1 AST)
(2:26) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(2:26) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(2:26) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Fisher
(2:17) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(2:15) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(2:03) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(2:01) [LAL] Fisher Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(1:52) [LAL 22-18] Medvedenko Driving Layup: Made (2 PTS)
(1:38) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Malone
(1:30) [SAN] Horry Running Finger Roll: Missed
(1:29) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:5)
(1:05) [LAL] Team Turnover: 24 Second Violation ( TO)
(0:52) [LAL] Medvedenko Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(0:39) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(0:37) [LAL] Medvedenko Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(0:26) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(0:17) [LAL 24-18] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS)
(0:01) [SAN] Horry Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:6)
(0:00) End Period

(without Devin: -6)

2nd Period
(11:47) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(11:47) [SAN] Turkoglu Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(11:47) [SAN] Team Rebound
(11:47) [SAN] Turkoglu Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(11:45) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:7)
(11:32) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(11:19) [LAL 26-18] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Rush (1 AST)
(11:07) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(11:05) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:2 Def:1)
(11:01) [SAN 21-26] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Nesterovic (1 AST)
(10:34) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(10:32) [SAN] Team Rebound
(10:18) [SAN 23-26] Ginobili Finger Roll: Made (4 PTS)
(10:10) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(10:09) [LAL] Rush Turnover: Traveling (1 TO)
(9:57) [LAL] Rush Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(9:41) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(9:39) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(9:31) [LAL 28-23] Malone Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS)
(9:13) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(9:13) [SAN] D. Brown Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(9:13) [SAN] Team Rebound
(9:13) [SAN 24-28] D. Brown Free Throw 2 of 2 (1 PTS)
(8:58) [LAL 30-24] Bryant Turnaround Jump: Made (10 PTS) Assist: Fisher (1 AST)
(8:46) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Lost Ball Out of Bounds (2 TO)
(8:32) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(8:30) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(8:25) [SAN] Ginobili Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Rush (1 ST)
(8:24) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(8:24) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by Parker
(8:15) [LAL] Fisher Jump Shot: Missed
(8:13) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:2 Def:5)
(8:10) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Bad Pass (3 TO) Steal: Rush (2 ST)
(8:02) [LAL 33-24] Fisher Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Bryant (3 AST)
(8:00) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(8:00) [LAL] Rush Substitution replaced by Payton
(7:42) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(7:40) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:5)
(7:26) [LAL 35-24] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (12 PTS)
(7:26) [SAN] Parker Driving Layup: Missed Block: O'Neal (2 BLK)
(7:04) [SAN] D. Brown Substitution replaced by Bowen

(with Devin: -5)

(7:04) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Horry
(7:04) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Medvedenko
(7:04) Jump Ball Duncan vs Bryant
(7:04) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(6:51) [SAN] Bowen Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(6:38) [LAL] Medvedenko Jump Shot: Missed
(6:37) [SAN] Team Rebound
(6:23) [SAN 26-35] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Made (5 PTS)
(6:07) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(6:05) [SAN] Parker Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(5:54) [LAL] Medvedenko Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(5:54) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(5:54) [SAN] Team Rebound
(5:54) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(5:52) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(5:45) [SAN 28-35] Bowen Layup Shot: Made (5 PTS)
(5:45) [LAL] Medvedenko Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(5:45) [LAL] Medvedenko Substitution replaced by O'Neal
(5:45) [SAN] Bowen Free Throw 1 of 1 missed
(5:44) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:3 Def:5)
(5:40) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(5:38) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:6)
(5:22) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(5:20) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:3 Def:6)
(5:09) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(5:07) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:4 Def:6)
(5:06) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(5:06) [SAN 29-35] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (10 PTS)
(5:06) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Walton
(5:06) [SAN 30-35] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (11 PTS)
(4:51) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(4:49) [SAN] Bowen Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(4:40) [SAN] Duncan Turnaround Jump: Missed
(4:38) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:8)
(4:23) [LAL] Fisher Layup Shot: Missed Block: Duncan (3 BLK)
(4:21) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:4 Def:7)
(4:11) [SAN 33-35] Bowen Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Parker (2 AST)
(3:54) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal: Horry (1 ST)
(3:51) [SAN] Horry Turnover: Stepped out of Bounds (1 TO)
(3:40) [LAL 38-33] Walton Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Payton (3 AST)
(3:21) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Offensive (2 PF)
(3:21) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Foul (4 TO)
(3:01) [LAL 40-33] Fisher Fade Away: Made (5 PTS) Assist: Malone (1 AST)
(2:36) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed Block: Payton (1 BLK)
(2:34) [LAL] Walton Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(2:22) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(2:21) [LAL] Team Rebound
(2:21) Timeout: Official
(2:21) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(2:09) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(2:08) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(1:57) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Traveling (5 TO)
(1:48) [LAL 42-33] Bryant Dunk Shot: Made (14 PTS) Assist: Malone (2 AST)
(1:32) [SAN 35-42] Parker Layup Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Duncan (1 AST)
(1:19) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(1:17) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(1:06) [LAL] Walton Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO)
(0:56) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Offensive (3 PF)
(0:56) [SAN] Ginobili Turnover: Foul (2 TO)
(0:56) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: +4)

(0:37) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(0:35) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(0:24) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Lost Ball (1 TO) Steal: Walton (1 ST)
(0:19) [LAL] Walton Turnover: Traveling (2 TO)
(0:03) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal: Fisher (1 ST)
(0:00) [LAL] Fisher Layup Shot: Missed
(0:00) [LAL] Team Rebound
(0:00) End Period

(with Devin: 0)

3rd Period
(11:40) [SAN 37-42] Duncan Jump Shot: Made (13 PTS)
(11:21) [LAL] Payton Running Layup: Missed
(11:20) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:4 Def:8)
(11:13) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(11:11) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(10:52) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(10:50) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:2 Def:2)
(10:42) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed Block: George (1 BLK)
(10:39) [SAN] Parker Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(10:36) [SAN 39-42] Parker Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS)
(10:13) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Parker (1 ST)
(10:13) [LAL] Malone Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(9:58) [SAN] Parker Fade Away: Missed
(9:56) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:7)
(9:46) [LAL 44-39] Bryant Driving Layup: Made (16 PTS)
(9:26) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed
(9:24) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:5 Def:8)
(9:22) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Lost Ball (6 TO) Steal: Bryant (1 ST)
(9:18) [LAL 46-39] O'Neal Dunk Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Bryant (4 AST)
(9:01) [LAL] George Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(8:51) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Lost Ball (7 TO) Steal: O'Neal (1 ST)
(8:40) [LAL 49-39] George Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Bryant (5 AST)
(8:36) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(8:14) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (3 BLK)
(8:12) [SAN] Team Rebound
(8:12) [SAN] Team Turnover: 24 Second Violation ( TO)
(7:58) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(7:47) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(7:45) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:5 Def:9)
(7:36) [SAN] Turkoglu Turnover: Lost Ball (1 TO) Steal: George (2 ST)
(7:21) [LAL 52-39] George Jump Shot: Made (11 PTS) Assist: Payton (4 AST)
(7:02) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(7:00) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(6:51) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(6:51) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(6:51) [SAN] Parker Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: -6)

(6:51) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(6:51) [LAL] Team Rebound
(6:51) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(6:50) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:5 Def:10)
(6:38) [SAN] Ginobili
(6:36) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(6:33) [SAN 41-52] D. Brown Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (1 AST)
(6:31) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(6:22) [LAL 54-41] George Running Dunk: Made (13 PTS) Assist: Payton (5 AST)
(6:05) [SAN 43-54] D. Brown Jump Shot: Made (5 PTS) Assist: Duncan (2 AST)
(5:41) [LAL 56-43] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (18 PTS)
(5:27) [LAL] Malone Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(5:27) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Horry
(5:17) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(5:15) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(4:58) [LAL 59-43] George Jump Shot: Made (16 PTS) Assist: Malone (3 AST)
(4:41) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(4:40) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:9)
(4:19) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal: D. Brown (1 ST)
(4:14) [SAN 45-59] Ginobili Running Dunk: Made (6 PTS) Assist: D. Brown (1 AST)
(3:59) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(3:59) [LAL 60-45] Payton Free Throw 1 of 2 (4 PTS)
(3:59) [LAL 61-45] Payton Free Throw 2 of 2 (5 PTS)
(3:46) [SAN] D. Brown Reverse Layup: Missed
(3:44) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(3:22) [LAL] George Jump Shot: Missed
(3:22) [SAN] Team Rebound
(3:22) [LAL] Malone Foul: Loose Ball (4 PF)
(3:13) [LAL] Payton Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(3:13) [SAN 46-61] D. Brown Free Throw 1 of 2 (6 PTS)
(3:13) [LAL] Malone Substitution replaced by Medvedenko
(3:13) [SAN] D. Brown Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(3:12) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:8)
(2:50) [LAL] O'Neal Jump Shot: Missed Block: Duncan (4 BLK)
(2:48) [LAL] O'Neal Layup Shot: Missed
(2:48) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:1 Def:8)
(2:47) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:2 Def:8)
(2:47) [SAN] Horry Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(2:47) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by Parker
(2:47) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(2:47) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Fisher
(2:47) [LAL] Team Rebound
(2:47) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(2:46) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(2:27) [SAN 48-61] Ginobili Running Jump: Made (8 PTS)
(2:00) [LAL] Medvedenko Jump Shot: Missed
(1:57) [SAN] Parker Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(1:51) [SAN] D. Brown Jump Shot: Missed
(1:49) [LAL] Fisher Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(1:31) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(1:29) [LAL] Medvedenko Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(1:28) [LAL] Medvedenko Turnover: Lost Ball (1 TO) Steal: Ginobili (2 ST)
(1:22) [SAN 50-61] D. Brown Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Parker (3 AST)
(1:00) [LAL] O'Neal Layup Shot: Missed
(0:57) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:5 Def:11)
(0:52) [SAN] Horry Jump Shot: Missed
(0:50) [LAL] Medvedenko Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(0:31) [LAL] Fisher Jump Shot: Missed
(0:29) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:5 Def:12)
(0:12) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Lost Ball Possession (3 TO)
(0:12) [SAN] Parker Foul: Loose Ball (1 PF)
(0:12) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Rush
(0:12) [LAL] Fisher Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(0:12) [LAL] Team Rebound
(0:12) [LAL 62-50] Fisher Free Throw 2 of 2 (6 PTS)
(0:01) [SAN 53-62] D. Brown Jump Shot: Made (11 PTS) Assist: Parker (4 AST)
(0:00) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [LAL] Team Rebound
(0:00) End Period

4th Period
(11:50) [LAL] Medvedenko Jump Shot: Missed
(11:49) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:5 Def:13)
(11:37) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(11:35) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(11:13) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(11:12) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(10:48) [SAN] Ginobili Fade Away: Missed
(10:47) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(10:33) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(10:31) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:5 Def:14)
(10:12) [SAN 55-62] Parker Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (2 AST)
(9:55) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Bad Pass (3 TO)
(9:43) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Offensive (4 PF)
(9:43) [SAN] Ginobili Turnover: Foul (3 TO)
(9:43) [LAL] Medvedenko Substitution replaced by O'Neal
(9:43) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by Turkoglu
(9:43) [LAL] Bryant Substitution replaced by George
(9:29) [LAL 64-55] O'Neal Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Fisher (2 AST)
(9:29) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(9:29) [LAL 65-55] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 1 (9 PTS)
(9:09) [SAN 57-65] Parker Jump Shot: Made (10 PTS)
(8:48) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(8:46) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(8:36) Timeout: Official
(8:36) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(8:36) [LAL] Rush Substitution replaced by Bryant
(8:25) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(8:23) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:10)
(8:08) [LAL] Malone Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Parker (2 ST)
(8:00) [SAN 60-65] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Parker (5 AST)
(7:40) [LAL] George Jump Shot: Missed
(7:38) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:5 Def:15)
(7:22) [SAN 63-65] Parker Jump Shot: Made (13 PTS) Assist: Turkoglu (2 AST)
(7:07) [LAL] Bryant Foul: Offensive (1 PF)
(7:07) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Foul (4 TO)
(7:07) [LAL] Fisher Substitution replaced by Payton
(6:57) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(6:55) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:11)
(6:52) [LAL] Malone Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal: D. Brown (2 ST)
(6:49) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(6:49) [LAL] Team Rebound
(6:49) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Loose Ball (3 PF)
(6:30) [LAL 67-63] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (20 PTS)
(6:17) [LAL] Payton Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(6:17) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Horry
(6:06) [SAN] Parker Fade Away: Missed
(6:05) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(6:05) [SAN] D. Brown Turnover: Stepped out of Bounds (1 TO)
(5:44) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(5:39) [SAN] Team Rebound
(5:39) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(5:39) [SAN] D. Brown Substitution replaced by Ginobili

(with Devin: +9)

(5:23) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(5:21) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(5:04) [SAN] Horry Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(5:04) [LAL 68-63] Malone Free Throw 1 of 2 (7 PTS)
(5:04) [LAL] Malone Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(5:03) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(4:44) [SAN] Duncan Layup Shot: Missed
(4:43) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:6 Def:15)
(4:43) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (4 PF)
(4:43) [SAN 64-68] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (14 PTS)
(4:43) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: 0)

(4:43) [SAN 65-68] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (15 PTS)
(4:27) [LAL] O'Neal Jump Hook: Missed
(4:25) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:0 Def:5)
(4:09) [SAN 67-68] Duncan (17 PTS)
(3:50) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(3:48) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:0 Def:6)
(3:24) [SAN] Team Turnover: 24 Second Violation ( TO)
(3:24) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(3:02) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(2:59) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(2:44) [SAN 71-68] Duncan (19 PTS) Assist: Parker (6 AST)
(2:18) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Lost Ball (5 TO) Steal: Ginobili (3 ST)
(2:14) [SAN 71-68] Parker Layup Shot: Made (15 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (3 AST)
(2:12) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(2:12) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Fisher
(1:57) [LAL 70-71] O'Neal Jump Shot: Made (11 PTS) Assist: Payton (6 AST)
(1:40) [SAN] D. Brown Jump Shot: Missed
(1:39) [SAN] Team Rebound
(1:27) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(1:25) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(1:18) [SAN] Horry Jump Shot: Missed
(1:16) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:2 Def:9)
(0:53) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(0:51) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:2 Def:5)
(0:31) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(0:29) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:12)
(0:11) [LAL 72-71] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (22 PTS)
(0:11) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(0:05) [LAL] Fisher Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(0:05) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(0:05) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Turkoglu
(0:00) [SAN 73-72] Duncan Jump Shot: Made (21 PTS)
(0:00) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(0:00) [SAN] Parker Substitution replaced by Horry
(0:00) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(0:00) [SAN] Team Timeout: Short
(0:00) [LAL] Team Timeout: Short
(0:00) [LAL 74-73] Fisher Fade Away: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Payton (7 AST)
(0:00) [TBD] Instant Replay: Support Ruling
(0:00) End Period

(with Devin: +3)
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Total:
With Devin: +7
Without Devin: -8
Net Total: +15

Minutes played: 24
Points scored: 11
FG: 4-7
3PT: 1-3
FT: 2-4

Karl Mundt
06-19-2005, 06:53 AM
GAME 5
Lakers 88, Spurs 76


1st Period
(12:00) Jump Ball O'Neal vs Duncan
(11:43) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(11:41) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(11:40) [LAL] O'Neal Layup Shot: Missed Block: Duncan (1 BLK)
(11:38) [LAL 2-0] O'Neal Layup Shot: Made (2 PTS)
(11:38) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:2 Def:0)
(11:14) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(11:12) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:2 Def:1)
(11:08) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed Block: Parker (1 BLK)
(11:05) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(10:52) [SAN 2-2] Duncan Turnaround Jump: Made (2 PTS)
(10:31) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(10:29) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(10:21) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Lost Ball (1 TO) Steal: Malone (1 ST)
(10:02) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(9:58) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(9:49) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(9:48) [SAN] Nesterovic Tip Shot: Missed
(9:48) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(9:47) [SAN] Nesterovic Tip Shot: Missed
(9:47) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:2 Def:0)
(9:46) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(9:41) [LAL 4-2] Payton Driving Layup: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Bryant (1 AST)
(9:20) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(9:18) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(8:59) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(8:59) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Willis
(8:59) [LAL] Malone Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(8:59) [LAL] Team Rebound
(8:59) [LAL 5-2] Malone Free Throw 2 of 2 (1 PTS)
(8:47) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO)
(8:28) [LAL] Malone Jump Shot: Missed
(8:26) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(8:11) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(8:08) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:2 Def:2)
(8:03) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(8:03) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(8:03) [LAL] Team Rebound
(8:03) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(8:02) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(7:41) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(7:40) [LAL] Team Rebound
(7:40) [SAN] Willis Foul: Loose Ball (1 PF)
(7:25) [LAL] Bryant Layup Shot: Missed
(7:24) [LAL] Team Rebound
(7:24) [SAN] Turkoglu Foul: Loose Ball (1 PF)
(7:24) [SAN] Willis Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(7:14) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(7:12) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:2 Def:1)
(6:58) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(6:58) [LAL] Team Rebound
(6:58) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Loose Ball (2 PF)
(6:58) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(6:58) [LAL 6-2] Malone Free Throw 1 of 2 (2 PTS)
(6:58) [LAL] Malone Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(6:57) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(6:35) [SAN 4-6] Duncan Turnaround Jump: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (1 AST)
(6:08) [LAL 9-4] George Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Payton (1 AST)
(5:48) [SAN 6-9] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (2 AST)
(5:28) [LAL 11-6] O'Neal Layup Shot: Made (4 PTS)
(5:28) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(5:28) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(5:28) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Horry
(5:28) [LAL 12-6] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 1 (5 PTS)
(5:06) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(5:04) [SAN] Team Rebound
(4:57) [SAN 8-12] Parker Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (3 AST)
(4:40) [LAL 14-8] Bryant Fade Away: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Payton (2 AST)
(4:28) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Lost Ball (2 TO) Steal: Malone (2 ST)
(4:24) [LAL 16-8] Bryant Reverse Layup: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Payton (3 AST)
(4:21) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(4:21) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: -8)

(4:21) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by Duncan
(4:21) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Fisher
(4:00) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(3:58) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(3:45) [SAN 11-16] D. Brown Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Horry (1 AST)
(3:25) [LAL] O'Neal Jump Shot: Missed
(3:22) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(3:15) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(3:14) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:2 Def:3)
(3:03) [LAL 18-11] Fisher Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Bryant (2 AST)
(2:45) [SAN 13-18] Duncan Driving Layup: Made (6 PTS)
(2:25) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Ginobili (1 ST)
(2:22) [SAN] Ginobili Turnover: Double Dribble (1 TO)
(2:02) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(2:00) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(1:49) [SAN 15-18] Duncan Finger Roll: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Parker (1 AST)
(1:49) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(1:49) [LAL] Malone Substitution replaced by George
(1:49) [SAN] Parker Substitution replaced by Turkoglu
(1:49) [SAN 16-18] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 1 (9 PTS)
(1:30) [LAL 20-16] Bryant Driving Finger Roll: Made (6 PTS)
(1:10) [LAL] Bryant Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(1:10) [LAL] Payton Substitution replaced by Rush
(1:10) [SAN 17-20] Horry Free Throw 1 of 2 (1 PTS)
(1:10) [SAN 18-20] Horry Free Throw 2 of 2 (2 PTS)
(0:53) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Offensive (2 PF)
(0:53) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: Foul (1 TO)
(0:53) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Malone
(0:40) [SAN 21-20] Horry Jump Shot: Made (5 PTS) Assist: Ginobili (4 AST)
(0:26) [LAL 23-21] George Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Bryant (3 AST)
(0:07) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(0:04) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(0:00) [LAL] Fisher Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [LAL] Team Rebound
(0:00) End Period

2nd Period
(11:48) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(11:46) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(11:42) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(11:42) [LAL] Team Rebound
(11:29) [LAL] Malone Foul: Offensive (1 PF)
(11:29) [LAL] Malone Turnover: Foul (1 TO)
(11:21) [LAL] Fisher Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(11:16) [SAN] Turkoglu Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO)
(11:00) [LAL] Medvedenko Jump Shot: Missed
(10:58) [LAL] Medvedenko Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(10:50) [LAL] Malone Turnaround Jump: Missed
(10:48) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(10:34) [SAN 23-23] Ginobili Driving Layup: Made (2 PTS)
(10:09) [LAL] Fisher Jump Shot: Missed
(10:06) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(9:56) [SAN 25-23] Duncan (11 PTS) Assist: D. Brown (1 AST)
(9:55) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(9:55) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Parker
(9:55) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by Bowen
(9:55) [LAL] Malone Substitution replaced by O'Neal
(9:55) [LAL] Bryant Substitution replaced by George
(9:55) [LAL] Rush Substitution replaced by Payton
(9:35) [LAL] Medvedenko Reverse Layup: Missed
(9:34) [SAN] Team Rebound
(9:34) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(9:17) [SAN 27-23] D. Brown Jump Shot: Made (5 PTS)
(8:59) [LAL] George Jump Shot: Missed
(8:56) [SAN] Bowen Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(8:44) [SAN 29-23] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: D. Brown (2 AST)
(8:24) [LAL 25-29] Fisher Running Jump: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Payton (4 AST)
(8:09) [LAL] Fisher Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(8:09) [SAN] D. Brown Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(8:09) [SAN] Team Rebound
(8:09) [SAN 30-25] D. Brown Free Throw 2 of 2 (6 PTS)
(7:54) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(7:54) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Duncan
(7:45) [LAL] Payton Layup Shot: Missed
(7:43) [LAL] O'Neal Tip Shot: Missed
(7:43) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:3 Def:3)
(7:42) [LAL 27-30] O'Neal Slam Dunk Shot: Made (7 PTS)
(7:42) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:3)
(7:24) [SAN] Duncan
(7:21) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:4)
(7:02) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(7:00) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(6:38) [SAN] D. Brown Jump Shot: Missed
(6:37) [SAN] Team Rebound
(6:37) [SAN] Team Turnover: 24 Second Violation ( TO)
(6:18) [LAL 29-30] O'Neal Turnaround Jump: Made (9 PTS) Assist: Fisher (1 AST)
(5:55) [SAN] Nesterovic Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO)
(5:54) Timeout: Official
(5:54) [SAN] D. Brown Substitution replaced by Ginobili

(with Devin: +9)

(5:54) [LAL] Fisher Substitution replaced by Bryant
(5:54) [LAL] Medvedenko Substitution replaced by Malone
(5:40) [LAL] O'Neal Layup Shot: Missed
(5:39) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(5:22) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed
(5:20) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(5:15) [SAN 32-29] Parker Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Duncan (1 AST)
(4:51) [LAL 31-32] Bryant Layup Shot: Made (8 PTS)
(4:34) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(4:32) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(4:19) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(4:17) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(4:08) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(4:06) [LAL] Team Rebound
(3:59) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(3:49) [LAL 34-32] Payton Jump Shot: Made (5 PTS) Assist: Bryant (4 AST)
(3:34) [SAN] Duncan Turnover: Lost Ball Out of Bounds (2 TO)
(3:12) [LAL] O'Neal Layup Shot: Missed
(3:11) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:2 Def:5)
(3:04) [SAN 34-34] Parker Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS)
(2:48) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO)
(2:48) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(2:48) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: -1)

(2:42) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Lost Ball (3 TO) Steal: Payton (1 ST)
(2:37) [LAL 36-34] Malone Layup Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Payton (5 AST)
(2:15) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed
(2:12) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:3 Def:5)
(2:02) [SAN] Duncan Hook Shot: Missed
(2:00) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(1:53) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(1:42) [LAL 38-34] Malone Layup Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Bryant (5 AST)
(1:24) [SAN 36-38] Parker Running Jump: Made (8 PTS)
(1:24) [LAL] Malone Foul: Away from Play (2 PF)
(1:24) [LAL] Malone Foul: Double Technical (2 PF)
(1:24) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by Bowen
(1:24) [SAN 37-38] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 1 (12 PTS)
(1:15) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Horry
(1:15) [SAN] Parker Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(1:15) [LAL 39-37] Payton Free Throw 1 of 2 (6 PTS)
(1:15) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Fisher
(1:15) [LAL] Payton Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(1:14) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(0:52) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(0:50) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:5)
(0:48) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: Bad Pass (3 TO) Steal: Horry (1 ST)
(0:42) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(0:41) [SAN 39-39] Horry Layup Shot: Made (7 PTS)
(0:41) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:2 Def:1)
(0:31) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(0:31) [SAN] Team Rebound
(0:31) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Duncan
(0:12) [SAN] D. Brown Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Malone (3 ST)
(0:00) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:2 Def:2)
(0:00) End Period

(with Devin: 0)

3rd Period
(11:35) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(11:33) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:6)
(11:15) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(11:13) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:3 Def:6)
(10:56) [SAN 41-39] Ginobili Driving Finger Roll: Made (4 PTS)
(10:37) [LAL 41-41] Payton Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: O'Neal (1 AST)
(10:16) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(10:14) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:4 Def:7)
(10:04) [LAL 44-41] Payton Jump Shot: Made (11 PTS) Assist: Bryant (6 AST)
(9:45) [LAL] George Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(9:33) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(9:31) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(9:15) [LAL] George Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO)
(9:15) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Loose Ball (3 PF)
(8:57) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(8:53) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(8:44) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(8:44) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Willis
(8:29) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(8:27) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(8:14) [SAN] Willis Hook Shot: Missed
(8:11) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(7:54) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal: Duncan (1 ST)
(7:50) [LAL] Malone Violation: Kicked Ball
(7:41) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Lost Ball (4 TO) Steal: Bryant (1 ST)
(7:41) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(7:41) [LAL] Payton Foul: Technical (0 PF)
(7:41) [SAN 42-44] Ginobili Free Throw Technical (5 PTS)
(7:21) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(7:20) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(7:00) [SAN 44-44] Ginobili Fade Away: Made (7 PTS)
(6:35) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(6:33) [LAL 46-44] O'Neal Slam Dunk Shot: Made (11 PTS)
(6:33) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:5 Def:7)
(6:08) [SAN] Willis Jump Shot: Missed
(6:07) [SAN] Team Rebound
(6:05) [LAL] George Substitution replaced by Rush
(6:05) [SAN] Willis Substitution replaced by Horry
(6:04) [LAL] Rush Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(5:55) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(5:54) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:5 Def:8)
(5:35) [LAL 48-44] Bryant Driving Layup: Made (10 PTS)
(5:15) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(5:13) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:5 Def:9)
(5:11) [LAL] O'Neal Turnover: Bad Pass (4 TO) Steal: Horry (2 ST)
(5:07) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(5:04) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:5 Def:10)
(4:49) [LAL] Malone Turnover: Lost Ball (2 TO) Steal: Duncan (2 ST)
(4:48) [LAL] Payton Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(4:48) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by Turkoglu
(4:48) [LAL] Malone Substitution replaced by Medvedenko
(4:31) [SAN] Bowen Jump Shot: Missed
(4:29) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:5 Def:11)
(4:15) [LAL 50-44] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (12 PTS) Assist: O'Neal (2 AST)
(4:04) [SAN] Parker Layup Shot: Missed
(4:03) [SAN] Bowen Tip Shot: Missed
(4:03) [SAN] Bowen Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(4:02) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(3:55) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(3:54) [SAN] Team Rebound
(3:54) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(3:54) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by D. Brown

(without Devin: -6)

(3:44) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(3:42) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(3:40) [SAN] D. Brown Layup Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (1 BLK)
(3:38) [SAN] Parker Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(3:22) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Bad Pass (5 TO)
(3:03) [LAL] Rush Jump Shot: Missed
(3:02) [SAN] Team Rebound
(2:52) [SAN 46-50] D. Brown Layup Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Horry (2 AST)
(2:52) [LAL] Rush Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(2:52) [SAN] Parker Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(2:52) [LAL] Rush Substitution replaced by Fisher
(2:52) [SAN 47-50] D. Brown Free Throw 1 of 1 (9 PTS)
(2:34) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(2:34) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(2:34) [LAL] Team Rebound
(2:34) [LAL 51-47] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 (12 PTS)
(2:20) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(2:17) [LAL] Medvedenko Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(2:14) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Bad Pass (3 TO)
(1:58) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(1:57) [SAN] Team Rebound
(1:57) [LAL] Payton Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(1:57) [SAN 48-51] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (13 PTS)
(1:57) [LAL] Payton Substitution replaced by Rush
(1:57) [LAL] Fisher Violation: Lane
(1:57) [SAN 49-51] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (14 PTS)
(1:44) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(1:37) [LAL 53-49] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (14 PTS)
(1:20) [SAN] D. Brown Layup Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (2 BLK)
(1:18) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:5)
(1:11) [LAL 56-49] Rush Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Bryant (7 AST)
(0:58) [LAL] Medvedenko Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(0:58) [SAN 50-56] Ginobili Free Throw 1 of 2 (8 PTS)
(0:58) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Malone
(0:58) [SAN 51-56] Ginobili Free Throw 2 of 2 (9 PTS)
(0:41) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(0:39) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(0:32) [LAL] Medvedenko Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(0:32) [SAN 52-56] Horry Free Throw 1 of 2 (8 PTS)
(0:32) [SAN] Duncan Substitution replaced by Rose
(0:32) [SAN] Horry Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(0:32) [SAN] Rose Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(0:26) [SAN] Horry Jump Shot: Missed
(0:24) [SAN] Rose Rebound (Off:2 Def:0)
(0:01) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [SAN] Rose Rebound (Off:3 Def:0)
(0:00) [SAN] Rose Layup Shot: Missed
(0:00) [SAN] Rose Rebound (Off:4 Def:0)
(0:00) [TBD] Instant Replay: Support Ruling
(0:00) End Period

4th Period
(11:47) [SAN] Horry Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(11:47) [LAL 57-52] Malone Free Throw 1 of 2 (7 PTS)
(11:47) [LAL] Malone Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(11:45) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:1 Def:5)
(11:27) [SAN 55-57] D. Brown Jump Shot: Made (12 PTS) Assist: Duncan (2 AST)
(11:08) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Bad Pass (4 TO) Steal: Horry (3 ST)
(11:00) [SAN] Ginobili Jump Shot: Missed
(10:59) [SAN] Team Rebound
(10:59) [SAN] Ginobili Substitution replaced by Parker
(10:59) [LAL] Rush Substitution replaced by Payton
(10:53) [SAN 57-57] D. Brown Driving Layup: Made (14 PTS)
(10:53) [LAL] Fisher Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(10:53) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Nesterovic
(10:53) [SAN 58-57] D. Brown Free Throw 1 of 1 (15 PTS)
(10:39) [SAN] Duncan Foul: Shooting (4 PF)
(10:39) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(10:39) [LAL] Team Rebound
(10:39) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(10:38) [SAN] Turkoglu Rebound (Off:1 Def:6)
(10:21) [SAN] Duncan Turnaround Jump: Missed
(10:19) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:6)
(10:11) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (4 PF)
(10:11) [LAL 58-58] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (15 PTS)
(10:11) [LAL 59-58] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 (16 PTS)
(9:53) [SAN] D. Brown Layup Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (3 BLK)
(9:51) [SAN] Nesterovic Rebound (Off:3 Def:1)
(9:51) [SAN] Nesterovic Jump Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (4 BLK)
(9:51) [SAN] Team Rebound
(9:40) [LAL] Malone Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(9:40) [SAN] Turkoglu Substitution replaced by Ginobili
(9:32) [SAN] D. Brown Jump Shot: Missed
(9:30) [LAL] Payton Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(9:10) [LAL 62-58] Fisher Jump Shot: Made (7 PTS) Assist: Payton (6 AST)
(8:55) [LAL] Malone Foul: Shooting (4 PF)
(8:55) Timeout: Official
(8:55) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(8:55) [SAN] Team Rebound
(8:55) [SAN] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(8:53) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:5 Def:12)
(8:38) [SAN] Nesterovic Foul: Shooting (5 PF)
(8:38) [LAL] Malone Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(8:38) [LAL] Team Rebound
(8:38) [SAN] Nesterovic Substitution replaced by Horry
(8:38) [LAL 63-58] Malone Free Throw 2 of 2 (8 PTS)
(8:25) [SAN 60-63] Duncan Driving Layup: Made (16 PTS)
(8:08) [LAL] Fisher Jump Shot: Missed
(8:06) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(7:45) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(7:43) [LAL] Fisher Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(7:38) [LAL 65-60] Payton Reverse Layup: Made (13 PTS) Assist: Fisher (2 AST)
(7:29) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(7:24) [LAL] Bryant Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(7:12) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(7:08) [SAN 62-65] Horry Layup Shot: Made (10 PTS)
(7:08) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:3 Def:2)
(6:50) [LAL 67-62] Bryant Driving Layup: Made (18 PTS) Assist: Payton (7 AST)
(6:34) [SAN 64-67] Ginobili Driving Layup: Made (11 PTS) Assist: Parker (2 AST)
(6:12) [LAL 69-64] Payton Driving Layup: Made (15 PTS)
(5:50) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Offensive (3 PF)
(5:50) [SAN] D. Brown Turnover: Foul (2 TO)
(5:36) [LAL 71-64] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (20 PTS)
(5:20) [SAN 66-71] Duncan (18 PTS) Assist: Parker (3 AST)
(5:03) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Personal (4 PF)
(5:03) [LAL 72-66] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (21 PTS)
(5:03) [LAL 73-66] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 (22 PTS)
(4:42) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(4:39) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(4:25) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(4:24) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:4 Def:6)
(4:24) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (4 PF)
(4:24) [SAN 67-73] Duncan Free Throw 1 of 2 (19 PTS)
(4:24) [SAN 68-73] Duncan Free Throw 2 of 2 (20 PTS)
(4:10) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(4:08) [LAL] Malone Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(4:06) [SAN] Parker Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(4:06) [LAL] Fisher Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(4:06) [LAL] Team Rebound
(4:06) [LAL 74-68] Fisher Free Throw 2 of 2 (8 PTS)
(3:52) [SAN] Ginobili Layup Shot: Missed Block: O'Neal (5 BLK)
(3:50) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:5 Def:13)
(3:39) [SAN] Horry Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(3:39) [LAL 75-68] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 (13 PTS)
(3:39) [LAL 76-68] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 (14 PTS)
(3:30) [SAN] Horry Jump Shot: Missed
(3:28) [LAL] O'Neal Rebound (Off:5 Def:14)
(3:28) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(3:28) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(3:28) [LAL] Team Rebound
(3:28) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(3:27) [SAN] D. Brown Rebound (Off:1 Def:5)
(3:11) [SAN 70-76] Ginobili Driving Layup: Made (13 PTS) Assist: D. Brown (3 AS
(3:06) [SAN] Parker Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(3:06) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(3:06) [LAL 77-70] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 (15 PTS)
(3:06) [LAL] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(3:04) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:3 Def:3)
(2:52) [SAN] Parker Turnover: Bad Pass (6 TO) Steal: Malone (4 ST)
(2:48) [SAN] Horry Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(2:48) [LAL 78-70] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 2 (16 PTS)
(2:48) [LAL 79-70] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 (17 PTS)
(2:38) [SAN] Horry Jump Shot: Missed
(2:35) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(2:29) [LAL] Payton Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(2:29) [SAN] Parker Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(2:29) [SAN] Team Rebound
(2:29) [SAN 71-79] Parker Free Throw 2 of 2 (9 PTS)
(2:10) [LAL] Payton Jump Shot: Missed
(2:08) [SAN] Ginobili Rebound (Off:2 Def:5)
(2:00) [SAN] Horry Jump Shot: Missed
(1:59) [LAL] Team Rebound
(1:56) [LAL] Team Timeout: Short
(1:52) [LAL 81-71] Bryant Driving Dunk: Made (24 PTS) Assist: Fisher (3 AST)
(1:42) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(1:41) [SAN] Horry Rebound (Off:4 Def:3)
(1:41) [LAL] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (5 PF)
(1:41) [SAN 72-81] Horry Free Throw 1 of 2 (11 PTS)
(1:41) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by George
(1:41) [SAN 73-81] Horry Free Throw 2 of 2 (12 PTS)
(1:17) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed Block: D. Brown (1 BLK)
(1:17) [LAL] Team Rebound
(1:17) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Turkoglu
(1:17) [LAL] Malone Substitution replaced by O'Neal
(1:17) [LAL] George Jump Shot: Missed
(1:17) [LAL] Team Rebound
(1:17) [LAL] Team Turnover: 24 Second Violation ( TO)
(1:09) [SAN] Duncan Jump Shot: Missed
(1:06) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(1:06) [SAN] Ginobili Foul: Personal (4 PF)
(1:06) [LAL 82-73] George Free Throw 1 of 2 (7 PTS)
(1:06) [LAL 83-73] George Free Throw 2 of 2 (8 PTS)
(1:06) [SAN] Team Timeout: Regular
(1:06) [SAN] Parker Substitution replaced by Horry
(1:01) [LAL] Payton Foul: Shooting (4 PF)
(1:01) [SAN 75-83] Ginobili Free Throw 1 of 3 (15 PTS)
(1:01) [SAN] Horry Substitution replaced by Parker
(1:01) [SAN 75-83] Ginobili Free Throw 2 of 3 (15 PTS)
(1:01) [SAN 76-83] Ginobili Free Throw 3 of 3 (16 PTS)
(1:00) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Personal (5 PF)
(1:00) [LAL 84-76] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (25 PTS)
(1:00) [LAL] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(0:58) [SAN] Duncan Rebound (Off:4 Def:7)
(0:45) [SAN] Parker Jump Shot: Missed
(0:43) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(0:43) [SAN] Turkoglu Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(0:43) [LAL 85-76] George Free Throw 1 of 2 (9 PTS)
(0:43) [LAL 86-76] George Free Throw 2 of 2 (10 PTS)
(0:35) [SAN] Turkoglu Jump Shot: Missed
(0:33) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:0 Def:7)
(0:30) [SAN] D. Brown Foul: Personal (6 PF)
(0:30) [SAN] D. Brown Substitution replaced by Bowen

(with Devin: -4)

(0:30) [LAL 87-76] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (26 PTS)
(0:30) [LAL] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(0:30) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(0:18) [SAN] Parker Foul: Personal (4 PF)
(0:18) [LAL] Fisher Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(0:18) [LAL] Team Rebound
(0:18) [LAL 88-76] Fisher Free Throw 2 of 2 (9 PTS)
(0:18) [SAN] Team Timeout: Short
(0:18) [SAN] Bowen Substitution replaced by Horry
(0:18) [SAN] Parker Substitution replaced by Ward
(0:18) [LAL] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Cook
(0:16) [SAN] Horry Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: George (1 ST)
(0:00) End Period

(without Devin: -2)
----------------------------------------------------------
Total:
With Devin: +5
Without Devin: -17
Net Total: +22

Minutes played: 28
Points scored: 15
FG: 5-10
3PT: 2-2
FT: 3-4
6 rebounds
(6 fouls)

whottt
06-19-2005, 09:49 AM
TimVP...I am the easiest guy in the world to get to admit when I am wrong. You just haven't disproved anything I said.

You are attempting to refute my claims with a limited +/- sample....You show me where I have used Devin's +/- to make my claims...I haven't.

If I wanted to do that I could just use this years playoff +/-...I just don't think it's very accurate. It's not what my argument is based on.

My point has always been based on minutes and what happens to the team when Devin gets big minutes..and what happens when Barry doesn't.

And even though I never did this in originally when making my points on Devin's impact(or lack of)...

The Laker series backs me up..

We never scored more than 81 points in a game where Devin played more than 20 minutes against LA...And we didn't win any of them either.



And no, I am not saying he is the cause of it...he's just damn sure not the cure.

Our record in that series when Devin played more than 20 minutes was 0-3.


Refute that.

MadDog73
06-19-2005, 09:59 AM
And no, I am not saying he is the cause of it...he's just damn sure not the cure.

Our record in that series when Devin played more than 20 minutes was 0-3.


Refute that.


LOL. This is true, Devin will not be winning any Championships this year if Manu and Tim play like shit.

That's the bottom line. I guess that's why I reacted to this post in the first place... who gives a fuck how Devin plays if the Spurs still lose?

whottt
06-19-2005, 10:00 AM
In that Laker series:

Devin plays >20 minutes
Spurs record = 0-3

Devin plays >15 minutes
Spurs record = 0-4


Devin plays < 15 minutes
Spurs record = 2-0

Sorry for ripping on your boy but you wanted to focus on the Laker series...

Now go look at my research done this season and look what Devin did...he averaged 20 minutes per game in losses and 17 mins per game in wins.

Conversely...When Barry played under 10 minutes we had a losing record...and our winning PCT dipped when his minutes went under 15. There was a strong correlation between his minutes and our winning PCT...and offensive output.

When Devin played less than 10-15 minutes we had an awesome winning PCT...

That lead me to conclude that if he wasn't on the team...we wouldn't miss him...

Now pay attention to what happened the last 3 months of the season...and look at where our team is now...and tell me how much Devin had to do with it.

I am sorry but I am right on this...The next playoff game Devin gets 20 minutes in and we win? Will be the first. No time like the present.

boutons
06-19-2005, 10:07 AM
So "Devin > 15 min" is more causal than:
Karl defending Tim hard and pushing him out of the low block all the way to 3-pt line,
Lakers packing the paint,
Lakers sagging off the perimeter, and
Spurs shooting =< 40%

... in Game3, 4, 5, 6??

MadDog73
06-19-2005, 10:15 AM
So "Devin > 15 min" is more causal than:
Karl defending Tim hard and pusing him out of the low block all the way to 3-pt line,
Lakers packing the paint,
Lakers sagging off the perimeter, and
Spurs shooting =< 40%

... in Game3, 4, 5, 6??


Again, just shows how utterly stupid all this +/- crap is.

The more I read it, the more I realize it doesn't mean anything.

Has Devin Brown won any games for us? At least you can say Brent Berry helped do that (Game 2 against the Suns, I believe)?

Remember when we are all talking about who would be the last Spurs on the Playoff Roster? The consensus was, as I remember, it really didn't matter, so we might as well take a hurt Devin, even if he doesn't play.

whottt
06-19-2005, 10:17 AM
The numbers speak for themselves...

Again..it's a trend that occurred this entire regular season...

It's a trend that is occurring in these very playoffs...

It's a trend that occurred in the Laker series(I want to thank TimVP for focusing on that series). Now it's pretty much concrete that Devin doesn't change anything, whereas before there was still room for doubt. Now there isn't.



Now the Devin fans want us to believe Devin is this indispensable part of the team...

When in fact, we rolled through the playoffs without him...and his best game is our worst asskicking...and don't tell me we haven't been down at other points in this series...Game 1 we were down bigtime...

And we managed to turn that into a Pistons asskicking without the Devin All Star Show.

In his career we are 0-4 in playoff games where he gets 20 minutes or more...many of them are very bad losses uncharacteristic of the team.

My point is that when the team is playing badly...Devin doesn't change it...no matter what he does individually...and there is evidence that when he gets lots of minutes when we do play badly? That we never regain our offensive form.

He's not the cure.

Spurminator
06-19-2005, 12:32 PM
Look at game one versus the Lakers. When he first came into the game, the Spurs were down. When he left, the Spurs were up by four. That is a game you can say translated to a victory.

We were down two points early (Q1) when Devin was brought in. That's a poor example.

The focus of these discussions is games where the Spurs are down by a lot of points and are unable to get anything going on the offensive end. A six point swing in the first quarter close game doesn't really debunk that point. I have no problem bringing Devin into the game in situations like that. I do question bringing him in as the primary offensive weapon in hopes that he will carry us out of a big defecit. I would rather see our main guns take that role. They've done it before...

We were down 9 with 10:18 left in the second quarter of Game 6 against the Sonics, but turned it into a 7 point lead by the 0:43 mark thanks to contributions from Bowen, Beno, Parker, Horry, Nazr and Duncan. Devin: DNP.

Game 1 against Phoenix, we turned an 8 point defecit into a 3 point lead in under 3 minutes spanning the end of the 3rd and the beginning of the 4th. Manu, Duncan, Horry and Barry made contributions. Devin: DNP

In Game 2, the Suns lead by 9 late in the 3rd, but again we were able to chip away at the defecit and pull out a victory with our usual lineup and rotation. Devin: DNP

In Game 1 of the Finals we trailed by 13 in the first quarter, but came back with the help of Duncan, Horry, Barry and Parker. Glenn Robinson subbed for Bowen (foul trouble) for 2 minutes, but stayed out of the way for the most part. By the end of the first, we were only down three. Devin played 6 minutes in that game at the beginning of the second quarter with a -2 point swing.

The above examples represent the four largest defecits the Spurs have been able to overcome... And Devin Brown has totalled 6 minutes in all of those games combined.

Kori Ellis
06-19-2005, 12:37 PM
Damn, can we put this topic to rest?!

Neither Brent Barry or Devin Brown have had significant impact on the Spurs winning. They both have upside and they both have downside. But who really cares about them right now?

Tim, Manu and Tony need to get on the same page and win this damn thing.

Spurminator
06-19-2005, 12:40 PM
+/- stats are a nice tool, but they don't tell the whole story for the purposes of this debate. For example, what effect does altering the usual rotation have on players who are on the bench longer than usual because of Brown's minutes? Does altering the substitution pattern this drastically take other players out of their rhythm?

Once again, you can't put any of this on Devin personally... but at this point, we're looking at results. And while the Spurs have not always been able to climb out of defecits without Devin on the floor, there are no examples of them ever climbing out of one WITH him on the floor.

Spurminator
06-19-2005, 12:43 PM
If I had been able to, Kori, I would have responded yesterday. But this is the first hour or so of free time I've had, so I'm responding now.

I didn't want to look like I had abandoned or conceded the point.

Brodels
06-19-2005, 12:46 PM
Neither Brent Barry or Devin Brown have had significant impact on the Spurs winning.

Exactly.

Kori Ellis
06-19-2005, 12:48 PM
If I had been able to, Kori, I would have responded yesterday. But this is the first hour or so of free time I've had, so I'm responding now.

I didn't want to look like I had abandoned or conceded the point.

It's okay. It wasn't really directed at you. I'm just tired of hearing about Barry and Devin. The Spurs really need the Big 3 to step up and tonight's game needs to hurry up and start. :)

timvp
06-19-2005, 02:39 PM
TimVP...I am the easiest guy in the world to get to admit when I am wrong. You just haven't disproved anything I said.

:lol

I've proven you wrong plenty over the last couple weeks and you just squirm and post until you change the subject and pretend you were right all along. Either that or you just hide for a few days and let the thread disappear.

I've never once seen you admit to being 100% wrong about something. Give me a link to a time this has occured.

It doesn't exist.


You are attempting to refute my claims with a limited +/- sample....You show me where I have used Devin's +/- to make my claims...I haven't.

Your whole argument is based on +/- from the regular season. What are you talking about?


If I wanted to do that I could just use this years playoff +/-...I just don't think it's very accurate. It's not what my argument is based on.

Yeah, this playoffs where Devin has played significant minutes in one game -- in which they were down 17 points when he went in.


My point has always been based on minutes and what happens to the team when Devin gets big minutes..and what happens when Barry doesn't.

Most of these numbers are simple to explain. When the Spurs are getting beat, Barry does nothing to bring a team back. He's a placeholder ... no more, no less. You put him in up 5 and he'll do his best to keep the team up 5. Pop always goes do Devin when the team needs a spark or when they are losing and he's trying to find a combination that will work. He NEVER goes to Barry when the team is folding and nothing seems to be working. Barry only gets minutes when the team is rolling and when they usually have a lead. He goes in there, tries not to mess up and holds his place.



And even though I never did this in originally when making my points on Devin's impact(or lack of)...

The Laker series backs me up..

We never scored more than 81 points in a game where Devin played more than 20 minutes against LA...And we didn't win any of them either.



And no, I am not saying he is the cause of it...he's just damn sure not the cure.

Our record in that series when Devin played more than 20 minutes was 0-3.


Refute that.

Look at the +/-'s that timvp and Karl Mundt posted. If Devin wouldn't have played in that series, it would have been a bigger beating that the 2001 playoffs. If he would have played more minutes, the Spurs could have won.

After Karl Mundt did the research, I'm sure he'd agree that when Devin was in the game, the Spurs played much better. Devin couldn't control what the Spurs did when he was on the bench and putting themselves in that huge hole.

timvp
06-19-2005, 02:43 PM
In that Laker series:

Devin plays >20 minutes
Spurs record = 0-3

Devin plays >15 minutes
Spurs record = 0-4


Devin plays < 15 minutes
Spurs record = 2-0


And notice how the Spurs had were actually beating the Lakers in three out of the final four games with him in the lineup.


Now go look at my research done this season and look what Devin did...he averaged 20 minutes per game in losses and 17 mins per game in wins.

Like I said again, your numbers get skewed when Pop uses you as the player who has to spark a dying team and the player who plays when the game is over and he's resting the older players.

Sorry you're not bright enough to follow a long.


Conversely...When Barry played under 10 minutes we had a losing record...and our winning PCT dipped when his minutes went under 15. There was a strong correlation between his minutes and our winning PCT...and offensive output.

Yeah because he only plays when the Spurs are winning. Figure that.

timvp
06-19-2005, 02:44 PM
Again, just shows how utterly stupid all this +/- crap is.

The more I read it, the more I realize it doesn't mean anything.

Has Devin Brown won any games for us? At least you can say Brent Berry helped do that (Game 2 against the Suns, I believe)?

Remember when we are all talking about who would be the last Spurs on the Playoff Roster? The consensus was, as I remember, it really didn't matter, so we might as well take a hurt Devin, even if he doesn't play.

Did you just type a bunch of random words together to up your post count? That doesn't make any sense and doesn't have anything to do with this thread.

Bring something.

:wtf

MadDog73
06-19-2005, 02:46 PM
Look at the +/-'s that timvp and Karl Mundt posted. If Devin wouldn't have played in that series, it would have been a bigger beating that the 2001 playoffs. If he would have played more minutes, the Spurs could have won.



Wow. That's quite an assertion. I can only guess that the point of your argument has something to do with this series? If not, the point is moot.

If so, than whose minutes does Devin take? Manu's? Tim's? Horry's? Nazr + Rasho's?

Who do you take out so Devin can play 30 minutes and win the game for us tonight?

timvp
06-19-2005, 02:51 PM
We were down two points early (Q1) when Devin was brought in. That's a poor example.

The focus of these discussions is games where the Spurs are down by a lot of points and are unable to get anything going on the offensive end. A six point swing in the first quarter close game doesn't really debunk that point. I have no problem bringing Devin into the game in situations like that. I do question bringing him in as the primary offensive weapon in hopes that he will carry us out of a big defecit. I would rather see our main guns take that role. They've done it before...

We were down 9 with 10:18 left in the second quarter of Game 6 against the Sonics, but turned it into a 7 point lead by the 0:43 mark thanks to contributions from Bowen, Beno, Parker, Horry, Nazr and Duncan. Devin: DNP.

Game 1 against Phoenix, we turned an 8 point defecit into a 3 point lead in under 3 minutes spanning the end of the 3rd and the beginning of the 4th. Manu, Duncan, Horry and Barry made contributions. Devin: DNP

In Game 2, the Suns lead by 9 late in the 3rd, but again we were able to chip away at the defecit and pull out a victory with our usual lineup and rotation. Devin: DNP

In Game 1 of the Finals we trailed by 13 in the first quarter, but came back with the help of Duncan, Horry, Barry and Parker. Glenn Robinson subbed for Bowen (foul trouble) for 2 minutes, but stayed out of the way for the most part. By the end of the first, we were only down three. Devin played 6 minutes in that game at the beginning of the second quarter with a -2 point swing.

The above examples represent the four largest defecits the Spurs have been able to overcome... And Devin Brown has totalled 6 minutes in all of those games combined.

Where have I said to go to Devin this postseason? :lol

He's been too injured to play until about two days ago. He's probably still too injured to contribute. I was debunking the myth that had been spreading since the Lakers series last year and into the regular season.

I never said anything about how Devin should play this postseason.

MadDog73
06-19-2005, 02:51 PM
Did you just type a bunch of random words together to up your post count? That doesn't make any sense and doesn't have anything to do with this thread.

Bring something.

:wtf


see my above post. You're using +/- to tell me Devin is this teams potential superstar. I've always been dubious of +/- stats, because it doesn't tell the whole story.

This is not baseball. You can't look at the numbers and tell exactly what happened. There are so many intangibles (saved balls, hustle plays, deflections, etc.) that are not recorded you just can't come up with a simple equation to show you who will win a game, or who to take in and out of any given situation. If there was, basketball would be much easier to coach.


As for bringing something, I'm not the one claiming Devin Brown needs to play more minutes for the Spurs to win, as you seem to be.

If that's not what you're saying, than again I must ask, what is your point?

This is not 2004, and we are not playing the Lakers. :cuss

MadDog73
06-19-2005, 02:52 PM
Where have I said to go to Devin this postseason? :lol

He's been too injured to play until about two days ago. He's probably still too injured to contribute. I was debunking the myth that had been spreading since the Lakers series last year and into the regular season.

I never said anything about how Devin should play this postseason.


Then what's your fucking point of this thread? Who the fuck cares about 2004 anymore! Quit living in the past, and bring a decent take about this year's series.

God damn, am I the only one sick of Timvp and whottt's little feud?

Kori Ellis
06-19-2005, 02:54 PM
You're using +/- to tell me Devin is this teams potential superstar.

No one is saying that Devin is a potential superstar. Merely that he's a role player that could make a difference.

This thread was started because Whottt repeatedly said that Devin Brown didn't help the team last year during the Lakers series. He said he plays on and island and doesn't improve the team. This thread was only about that -- it's an ongoing conversation between Whottt and timvp. If you don't understand the history of it, it probably doesn't make sense to you.

Kori Ellis
06-19-2005, 02:54 PM
Then what's your fucking point of this thread? Who the fuck cares about 2004 anymore! Quit living in the past, and bring a decent take about this year's series.

God damn, am I the only one sick of Timvp and whottt's little feud?


Why don't you just shut up and not coming in the thread then? Is someone forcing you to post in this thread?

MadDog73
06-19-2005, 02:55 PM
No one is saying that Devin is a potential superstar. Merely that he's a role player that could make a difference.

This thread was started because Whottt repeatedly said that Devin Brown didn't help the team last year during the Lakers series. He said he plays on and island and doesn't improve the team. This thread was only about that -- it's an ongoing conversation between Whottt and timvp. If you don't understand the history of it, it probably doesn't make sense to you.


I think I understand all to well. IMO, these two should have a PM conversation about this, or put it in a "History" thread, because it has nothing to do with Game 5 which starts in 5 hours.

But I guess I'm the only one who feels that way....

MadDog73
06-19-2005, 02:56 PM
Why don't you just shut up and not coming in the thread then? Is someone forcing you to post in this thread?


No. But I'm still entitled to my opinion, right?

Besides, my beef is not with you Kori, it's with your hubby.

Kori Ellis
06-19-2005, 02:57 PM
I think I understand all to well. IMO, these two should have a PM conversation about this, or put it in a "History" thread, because it has nothing to do with Game 5 which starts in 5 hours.

But I guess I'm the only one who feels that way....


People can talk about whatever they want related to basketball in the forum. People are even talking about Jason Kidd. So what is it to you?

Just don't read the thread.

timvp
06-19-2005, 03:00 PM
Once again, you can't put any of this on Devin personally... but at this point, we're looking at results.

That is a very simplistic way of looking at things. Looking at minutes played and then whether the team wins or losses doesn't tell much of a story. Like last game, yeah Devin played more minutes than Barry but what about the quarter of garbage time that Devin played. What about the fact that he came into the game and the Spurs were down 17 and he led the charge to bring them within 9. All of that is lost when you pull a Whottt and say "Hey look Barry played 11 minutes and Devin played 20 minutes and the Spurs lost".

That is caveman basketball research. The better way to do it is to look how the team did while each individual player was on the court. You bring up valid concerns about altered rotation, playing time, etc ... but if a player is on the court and the team is in the positive, and without him the team is 20 points down ... the problem isn't with the player being on the court.


And while the Spurs have not always been able to climb out of defecits without Devin on the floor, there are no examples of them ever climbing out of one WITH him on the floor.

:lol

Never? Are you looking at these playoffs where he's been injured the whole time or are you saying his whole career?

timvp
06-19-2005, 03:04 PM
Damn, MadDog if you don't understand what is being discussed, then why do you keep posting? Those involved know what is being discussed. You obviously haven't seen the myth that has circulated this forum.

The conversation is about figuring out whether the myth that "Devin always hurts the team no matter what when he's on the court" is true. It pertains to last season, this season and in the summer when the Spurs have to decide whether to re-sign him.

This is a discussion board. It's what we do.

Discuss.

ObiwanGinobili
06-19-2005, 03:05 PM
That might be what you are saying. But that's not what Whottt's been saying. Whottt says that when Devin's on the floor, the Spurs are worse -- i.e. their leads shrink, or they go even deeper into a whole than they already are. This definitely proves that is not the case.


:tu :spin

GopherSA
06-19-2005, 04:22 PM
Who are the Trailblazers?

They're a west-coast marijuana cartel. You haven't heard of them. They're HUGE in Europe, too.

And their amps go all the way to ELEVEN!

SPARKY
06-19-2005, 05:00 PM
timvp's analysis only confirms what those of us who don't have "Barry's Booty http://www.i-evaluation.de/idea/fragebogeneditor/evaluationsbogen/content/arrow_down.jpg" tattoed above our asses know: Devin Brown is a postseason player, he's a competitor, he plays to win.

As for those of you who say that he doesn't make much of an impact most times, well, look at the spot at which he usually enters the game when he's not a part of the rotation...when the Spurs are down or up 20. This team is a lot better with him in the rotation and Brent waving the towel on the bench with Radoslav.

Some of you must not be watching the same team or you must be afflicted with Barryitis.

whottt
06-19-2005, 06:44 PM
And notice how the Spurs had were actually beating the Lakers in three out of the final four games with him in the lineup.

We lost.

It was a trend in last years playoffs. It was trend in this years regular season. It is a trend in these playoffs.

Oh but you got +/- from a 6 game series 4 games of which were losses...to prove me wrong...talk about irony.




Like I said again, your numbers get skewed when Pop uses you as the player who has to spark a dying team and the player who plays when the game is over and he's resting the older players.

Using 6 games worth of +/- stats is more skewed than anything I have done.



Sorry you're not bright enough to follow a long.

You just see what you want to see...I am just wating for a single win...is one to much to ask for?

whottt
06-19-2005, 06:58 PM
:lol

I've proven you wrong plenty over the last couple weeks and you just squirm and post until you change the subject and pretend you were right all along. Either that or you just hide for a few days and let the thread disappear.


Um that's not true...I pretty much admit I am wrong every single time I am...I admitted was wrong on something yesterday. That thing about the Seattle Series...

Go look at your classic threads also...and see if that's true.

OTOH...the next time I see you admit error will be the first.

I remember a midseason thread after Devin Brown got injured when you said Barry would choke and couldn't handle the pressure and I said he would step up when he was needed...he lead team in scoring off the bench, I believe 4 out of the next 5 games...and I never heard a peep about it from you. Except you all of a sudden wanted to judge by playoffs instead of regular season...


I've never once seen you admit to being 100% wrong about something. Give me a link to a time this has occured.


That stat argument about the Pistons for one thing...The one about the Seattle series?








Your whole argument is based on +/- from the regular season. What are you talking about?

No it's not..it's based on what minutes played and W-L...go click on the link of Devin VS Brent the numbers speak for themselves...it's not a +/- argument.




Yeah, this playoffs where Devin has played significant minutes in one game -- in which they were down 17 points when he went in.

And the margin got worse...




Most of these numbers are simple to explain. When the Spurs are getting beat, Barry does nothing to bring a team back. He's a placeholder ... no more, no less.

False...that Phoenix game, the Nets game, the Golden State Double OT game...

You are wrong about that...Barry has been the common denominator in just about all of our comeback wins.

On top of that...I believe we average over 100PPG when he starts...about that same amount when he gets over 30 mins per game...

He started in our highest scoring game of the regular season and playoffs...and he got big minutes in both. And those weren't just our highest scoring games...they second highest scoring games this season in both categories...

And the regular season game was without Duncan and Manu and Devin.




You put him in up 5 and he'll do his best to keep the team up 5. Pop always goes do Devin when the team needs a spark or when they are losing and he's trying to find a combination that will work.


And it hardly ever works...it never works in the playoffs.




He NEVER goes to Barry when the team is folding and nothing seems to be working. Barry only gets minutes when the team is rolling and when they usually have a lead. He goes in there, tries not to mess up and holds his place.

You call me simple minded but you can't appreciate the skills of Barry because he doesn't go out there trying to take over the game, lead the team in scoring off the bench, and jack up shit....

EG...right now...he leads the team in Effective FG%...





Look at the +/-'s that timvp and Karl Mundt posted. If Devin wouldn't have played in that series, it would have been a bigger beating that the 2001 playoffs. If he would have played more minutes, the Spurs could have won.

You need to read the disclaimer about how inaccurate +/- in that small of a sample size...I'd still recognize it though if was backed by wins...it isn't in Devin's case...it's back by uncharacteristically bad losses..


After Karl Mundt did the research, I'm sure he'd agree that when Devin was in the game, the Spurs played much better. Devin couldn't control what the Spurs did when he was on the bench and putting themselves in that huge hole.

We made it to the finals without Devin TimVP...we made it through the first 2 games...In convincing fashion...ditto the first 2 games VS LA last year and the Memphis series.

Good times for Devin = Bad Times for the team.

SPARKY
06-19-2005, 07:20 PM
If only Barry played the game with the same level of diligence and desire that whottt has shown in arguing impossible positions might the Spurs be in a better position...

timvp
06-19-2005, 07:28 PM
How does Whottt turn every thread into a Brent Barry discussion? I didn't even mention Barry in the first post of this thread. It had nothing to do with Barry.

Yet Whottt spins it into a Devin vs. Brent discussion. I don't know if you are married to Billion, but it'd be nice if for once a thread you are in doesn't turn into how wronged Barry is.

That marriage thing actually makes sense now. Arguing with you is like arguing with the wife ... I never win even if I'm right :lol

Try to stick to the subject next time, Erin.

whottt
06-19-2005, 07:31 PM
Devin>15
Spurs Record = 0-5

Devin<15
Spurs record = much better. 20-5 I think.

SPARKY
06-19-2005, 07:37 PM
Devin gets more minutes in blowout losses, games in which he wasn't able to enter until they were down significantly. Try again.

whottt
06-19-2005, 07:52 PM
Guess what? The Devin solution? It hasn't worked yet. Why then do we keep doing it?