UFC 143: Diaz vs. Condit February 4, 2012

[dbreiden83080]

Good overall card and pretty epic promos the UFC is putting out.. GSP has to be furious at this interim belt shit but what can you do?

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Main card

Interim Welterweight Championship bout: Nick Diaz vs. Carlos Condit
Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs. Fabricio Werdum
Welterweight bout: Josh Koscheck vs. Mike Pierce
Bantamweight bout: Renan Barão vs. Scott Jorgensen
Middleweight bout: Ed Herman vs. Clifford Starks

Preliminary card (FX)

Featherweight bout: Dustin Poirier vs. Max Holloway
Welterweight bout: Matthew Riddle vs. Jorge Lopez
Bantamweight bout: Alex Caceres vs. Edwin Figueroa
Welterweight bout: Matt Brown vs. Chris Cope
Middleweight bout: Rafael Natal vs. Michael Kuiper

[polandprzem]

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[ace3g]

end of the 2nd part of UFC Primetime on FX focusing on GSP rehab and Diaz; can't wait for this card.

[ace3g]

MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view)

Carlos Condit vs. Nick Diaz (for interim welterweight title)
- Diaz by submission victory (arm bar) 3rd round.

Roy Nelson vs. Fabricio Werdum
- Nelson by crucifix (aka the fat nelson) TKO

Josh Koscheck vs. Mike Pierce
- Koscheck KO victory 2nd round

Renan Barao vs. Scott Jorgensen
- Decision win for Barao

Ed Herman vs. Clifford Starks

[polandprzem]

Better episode


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[Stringer_Bell]

The ending minutes with GSP was awesome television, really cool to see GSP go dark like that.

Interim Welterweight Championship bout: Nick Diaz vs. Carlos Condit
- Condit, next to Diego, is probably my favorite personality...he's a fighter that can change the momentum of a fight even when things don't start well - and he doesn't give up. But the more I think about it, Diaz can take his punishment and dish it out for 5 rounds. Condit's best chance is to KO in the 1st or 2nd, something that's only happened once to Diaz in 30+ fights. Thinking about Jackson's schemes, Condit won't really engage until the 2nd while trying to set him up for a TKO in the 3rd. But this thing will definately end in the 3rd, Diaz by RNC.
Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs. Fabricio Werdum
- Nelson has the advantage in the standup and grappling, no way he's stupid enough to get caught by Werdum - and if he does then he'll just squash him.
Welterweight bout: Josh Koscheck vs. Mike Pierce
- Kos will probably win, but I go with my boy Pierce no matter what.
Bantamweight bout: Renan Barão vs. Scott Jorgensen
- I hate to pick against Scotty, but Barao is like a little tasmanian devil. Overall skillset vs vicious instincts...I don't think this one's going to a decision. :/
Middleweight bout: Ed Herman vs. Clifford Starks

[mercos]

Diaz vs Condit is going to be sick. I'm really torn on who wins that fight. I could see it going either way. The only thing I am sure of is that the winner probably loses to GSP.

[ace3g]

Champ Georges St-Pierre wants Nick Diaz fight as much as he wanted a title shot


"I want this fight with Diaz so badly – as badly as I wanted the title shot when I got down on my knees," St-Pierre today told the UFC.

That was seven years ago at UFC 56, when his career looked a whole lot different than it does today. Of all the punches he's slipped on his current path, this one has hit hardest.

What's more, he can't do anything but sit and wait to settle the rivalry.

"I was (crushed) when I had to pull out of this weekend's fight hurt, but I am determined to get back to the octagon as soon as possible to fight this guy," St-Pierre said of Diaz. "He needs to hold up his part and beat (Carlos) Condit on Saturday to make this fight happen."

http://mmajunkie.com/news/27212/champ-georges-st-pierre-wants-nick-diaz-fight-as-much-as-he-wanted-a-title-shot.mma

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Seems like UFC is doing a passable job of creating a new image for Diaz; in this video (although not for the UFC) is the most comfortable I've ever seen Diaz. Plus with these UFC Primetime's (2nd aired today on FUEL) is getting a lot of buzz in the media at showing another side of Diaz.

[polandprzem]

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[dbreiden83080]

This card is not getting much buzz and i expect a PPV buyrate only in the 200 thousand range. Seems to be missing a big co-main event that would have got the card more pub and i also think a lot of people don't think Condit has much of a chance even though the odds makers have this almost dead even..


Main card

Interim Welterweight Championship bout: Nick Diaz vs. Carlos Condit
Let me be clear, Diaz can easily lose this fight. He can be wild and not very technical in his stand-up. Het gets through that because of his cardio, chin and pace. He better be more technical and less wild with Condit if he is going to win. I see Diaz wearing Carlos down late in the fight and stopping him in the 4th or 5th only if he plays better defense than he has in the past. Condit can counter him in rounds 1 or 2 and has the power to hurt him. Diaz gets past round 2 and with his pace, Carlos's chances of countering him go down. So i say Diaz TKO 4th or 5th round and he gets the GSP Super-fight..

Heavyweight bout: Roy Nelson vs. Fabricio Werdum
How did Werdum get back in the UFC and in a co-main event again?? Nelson by UD or KO..

Welterweight bout: Josh Koscheck vs. Mike Pierce
Koscheck UD Pierce is not ready for the step up in competition.

Bantamweight bout: Renan Barão vs. Scott Jorgensen
Submission..
Middleweight bout: Ed Herman vs. Clifford Starks
Gotta suport the old school TUF guys.. War Herman.. Submission..

[desflood]

How did Werdum get back in the UFC and in a co-main event again??

Dana White will kiss the ass of anyone who makes Fedor Emelianenko look bad, because for all his business smarts Dana White is occasionally a petty, grudge-holding prick.

Diaz/Condit is a badass fight. There's not much more can be said about it.

[polandprzem]

Who else should be in co-main?



















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CARLOS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

[dbreiden83080]

Who else should be in co-main?
















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CARLOS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

Too many cards and this is what happens..

[polandprzem]

yea a tragedy


You got to use to it with so many cards there will not gonna be packed cards

[dbreiden83080]

GSP is going to be out for a long time. It might have been smart to have another WW contender fight as the co-main event because GSP says he is gone until Nov or so..

[polandprzem]

GSP is going to be out for a long time. It might have been smart to have another WW contender fight as the co-main event because GSP says he is gone until Nov or so..

Nick would wait for GSP Condit would not.

[polandprzem]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/2/1/2765231/nick-diaz-not-happy-with-the-way-hes-been-edited-online


http://uk.ufc.com/media/143-PREDICTIONS-212012

[polandprzem]

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[ace3g]

Presser is today at 4 p.m. EST. Will Diaz show up for a title fight presser...

How many rounds do you guys see this fight going?

[polandprzem]

Presser is today at 4 p.m. EST. Will Diaz show up for a title fight presser...

How many rounds do you guys see this fight going?

I predict 2 or 3 tough rounds. Very very intensive. Condit will capitalize on Nick after he will knock him down or hurt badly.
Killer will kill

[ace3g]

Typical Diaz staredown...

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[dbreiden83080]

Weigh ins live at 7ET

http://www.ufc.com/media/ufc-143-weigh-in-archive

[ace3g]

everyone made weight:

http://video.ufc.tv/photo_galleries/143weighin/138087126JH006_UFC_143_Diaz.jpg

http://video.ufc.tv/photo_galleries/143weighin/138087126JH007_UFC_143_Diaz.jpg

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and final primetime starts tonight at 10 p.m. CST on FX

[Stringer_Bell]

The fact that Diaz shook Condit's hand worries me. Even more worrying, Condit saying they'll have to carry him out of the ring if he loses - I believe it, Condit is gonna have to be put to sleep to lose this. And now we wait........

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[mystargtr34]

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:rollin

[dbreiden83080]

The fact that Diaz shook Condit's hand worries me. Even more worrying, Condit saying they'll have to carry him out of the ring if he loses - I believe it, Condit is gonna have to be put to sleep to lose this. And now we wait........

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Watch Episode 3 of Primetime.. Diaz is crazy as a loon and Condit to me showed pause and worries. Especially with Jackson he did not look overly confident when talking a little strategy.. Maybe that was game-manship for the cameras. Nick i think is making an effort to tone down the pre-fight nonsense in the UFC. I have no doubt fight time he is gonna bring it like always..

[ace3g]

Watch Episode 3 of Primetime.. Diaz is crazy as a loon and Condit to me showed pause and worries. Especially with Jackson he did not look overly confident when talking a little strategy.. Maybe that was game-manship for the cameras. Nick i think is making an effort to tone down the pre-fight nonsense in the UFC. I have no doubt fight time he is gonna bring it like always..

Have to agree on the Diaz part more than anything else; he is trying to stay comfortable in front of the cameras and wouldn't take much from the handshake; there really isn't much anger between the 2, not even enough for Diaz to go "gangster".

I'm not a fan of Diaz (although these Primetime episodes are showing different side of him, and show more of why he is the way he is) but I've never seen him truly rocked in the octagon; only going to beat him by decision.

[dbreiden83080]

Have to agree on the Diaz part more than anything else; he is trying to stay comfortable in front of the cameras and wouldn't take much from the handshake; there really isn't much anger between the 2, not even enough for Diaz to go "gangster".

I'm not a fan of Diaz (although these Primetime episodes are showing different side of him, and show more of why he is the way he is) but I've never seen him truly rocked in the octagon; only going to beat him by decision.

Tell me what you think Ace? I got the sense that Condit is so used to putting guys away and he feels he might not be able to take Nick out. Something i see in his eyes and body language does not look good to me.. I think 2 things worry him

Diaz's Chin
Diaz's Cardio. Nick forces the high pace and wants to drag you into a cardio battle. Cardio battles he never loses..

[polandprzem]

Condit avoided any head contact by putting his hands up, just like Diaz use to do.

And it looked on presser and on weigh-ins that Carlos had a big cut, or had some problems.



I'm gonna watch episode 3 and see what's going on.


Jacksons always tries to simulate the other fighters for them to feel comfortable in the cage so I think Carlos is well prepared.

[ace3g]

Tell me what you think Ace? I got the sense that Condit is so used to putting guys away and he feels he might not be able to take Nick out. Something i see in his eyes and body language does not look good to me.. I think 2 things worry him

Diaz's Chin
Diaz's Cardio. Nick forces the high pace and wants to drag you into a cardio battle. Cardio battles he never loses..

Hell I think anyone that fights Diaz, knows that he has one of the best chins + cardio in MMA; and that is something that is difficult to prepare for. Not only does your striking have to be on point but have to be in the best shape possible.

Plus you can tell from the presser that Condit is bitter at the whole GSP/Diaz match that everyone wants; he knows he has to spoil the party. He is put in this situation to fail essentially by the UFC, so I'm sure it is a bit uncomfortable for him.

Condit is still an aggressive striker but I think the true test will be his BJJ defense. I predicted Diaz will win by arm bar in the 3rd round. I don't know much of Condit's wrestling / TD skills so that could play a factor as well.

Diaz also hinted during the final primetime that he might have added to his striking (maybe more variety of kicks and elbows) to go a long with his boxing.

[Stringer_Bell]

Watch Episode 3 of Primetime.. Diaz is crazy as a loon and Condit to me showed pause and worries. Especially with Jackson he did not look overly confident when talking a little strategy.. Maybe that was game-manship for the cameras. Nick i think is making an effort to tone down the pre-fight nonsense in the UFC. I have no doubt fight time he is gonna bring it like always..

I think I was a little unclear in that post...I meant that Condit isn't going to let this go to decision - he's either gonna KO or collapse. I think Diaz will put him to sleep in the 3rd. But I firmly believe as long as Condit is conscious, he has a chance to win.

If anyone is gonna do damage with elbows/knees, it's Condit because Diaz hasn't fought guys that make their living off that kind of attack. The kind of movement he's going to see, his previous opponents don't utilize that (not even BJ, he just wanted to scrap). What it comes down to is two guys with different types of violence - one wants to flash KO you, the other wants to beat you into nothingness. I really think, other than Shogun/Hendo, this is a hyped fight that can deliver.

[LakerHater]

Kick to the face KO, DAMN!!

[LakerHater]

Natal is TIIIIRED!

[LakerHater]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOW!

He survives!

[LakerHater]

DAAAMN, Martinez is like a lil mighty mouse!

[ace3g]

ouch!!!

[ace3g]

what a head kick!!! change in momentum

[ace3g]

Alex should have gone palm to palm to finish that RNC

[LakerHater]

WHATA round!!

[ace3g]

another low blow

[resistanze]

Always gets his back then does jack shit.

[ace3g]

again should have went palm to palm easily gets the sub; and Alex 2 pt deduction for low blow was the deciding factor

[ace3g]

what a transition by DDP

[LakerHater]

WOW, a triangle arm bar!??!!!

[01Snake]

Damn. That was nice.

[ace3g]

that was an awesome head kick by Thompson

[Stringer_Bell]

Excellent prelim show, hopefully they continue like this.

Would love to see Thompson against Hathaway.

[ace3g]

Rogan about to explode, lol

[ace3g]

what did you think of the new intro?

[Stringer_Bell]

I missed it :(

Was it amazing? And did they keep any of the hype music for the fighter showcase?

[ace3g]

it was pretty good, the fighter showcase music was the same, essentially it showed important fights in UFC history... was going to describe it but this will work better:

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[Stringer_Bell]

Whoa, thanks a bunch! That was awesome, definately not nearly as horrible as I imagined and they kept the hype music.

[LakerHater]

Herman got one for the Gingers!!

[ace3g]

cool promo for UFC Japan

[Stringer_Bell]

They should've taken a point from Kos, that's bullshit after all those warnings

Give it to Pierce dammit!!!!

[Stringer_Bell]

Oh well, now the UFC can hype a Story vs Pierce match and at least fans can watch that ass whoopin for free :p

[ace3g]

Big Country time!!!

[Stringer_Bell]

Big COuntry's escape was amazing, never seen that

[ace3g]

since when does Werdum use clinch work...

[Stringer_Bell]

since when does Werdum use clinch work...

Since he saw Mir destroy Nelson with it.

Nelson is the Diego of HW, holy shit

[ace3g]

Big Country right hand started landing near the end, see if he can capitalize on that more in 3rd

[ace3g]

main event time!!!

[Stringer_Bell]

Fuck yea...."I ain't gonna work on Maggie's Farm no more."

[Stringer_Bell]

Awwww, fuck yea Deftones too! haha

[Stringer_Bell]

Some trivia about that Diaz song, it was inspired by Vitor Belfort's wife.

[LakerHater]

Nick doesnt seem right...

[Stringer_Bell]

Well played Carlos!

[ace3g]

Nick seems like Nick to me, boxing, body shots, taunting...

[ace3g]

even more Diaz taunts, clearly Nick isn't worried about the flying knees / spinning elbows by Condit

[resistanze]

Condit not playing Nick's game.

[Stringer_Bell]

Condit needs to relax, I predicted 3rd round it ends :/

[ace3g]

not sure why Rogan/others are surprised Condit is landing on Diaz, everyone lands shots on Diaz, it is whether you can land "the shot".

[Stringer_Bell]

not sure why Rogan/others are surprised Condit is landing on Diaz, everyone lands shots on Diaz, it is whether you can land "the shot".

I think it's the lack of punishment he's avoiding while landing. Condit is the first dude to fight smart against Diaz

[resistanze]

Probably 3-1 going into the last round.

[Stringer_Bell]

One of the best performances since Frankie vs Maynard 1-2, let's finish it Carlos!

[ace3g]

BJJ time

[ace3g]

see how much that TD by Diaz/ ground control scores by the judges

[Stringer_Bell]

It can't be anything else other than 48-47 for Condit

[resistanze]

48-47

[ace3g]

good win for Condit, but no way was Condit underdog, more of Vegas just wanted Diaz/GSP.

This was a tough fight for me to pick, congrats to Condit

[resistanze]

:lmao Nick Diaz

[LakerHater]

Condit didn't fight to win. He fought to not lose!

Diaz quitting!!!

[ace3g]

for some reason before this fight started I was wondering he would retire if he lost, not going to fight GSP...

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

What a sore losing bitch. Maybe if he'd fought instead of acting like a fuck head until round 4 then he wins but its all on him. Its amazing to me to see athletes who are obviously talented and gifted just waste it like that. What a moron.

[benefactor]

:crybut I won the fight:cry

For such a tough guy, he sure is acting like a bitch.

[Stringer_Bell]

Condit didn't fight to win. He fought to not lose!

Whoa, totally disagree. He dictated the terms of the fight, he didn't just survive. He did try to knock him him at least twice, but it didn't do shit cuz Diaz looked like he didn't feel it.

Expert strategy and execution, if Diaz is upset with the scoring then he should have been quicker to the punch and thrown more strikes.

[shyne]

Made my night fuck nick Diaz and his faggot ass brother.

[ace3g]

as I said "he hinted he was going to add more to his attack in the primetime shows" maybe using kicks more than usual was a downfall, should have stayed with his boxing attack. He has never been a long distance fighter.

[LakerHater]

Diaz shoulda stood right in the center & called him to him to stop all that damn running!

[benefactor]

What do expect Condit to do? Sit against the cage and let Diaz punch him?

[resistanze]

lol Diaz was pressing most of the fight but couldn't land shit. Condit landed more and countered effectively. It's about time MMA fans start to appreciate some of the technicalities of the sport.

[Stringer_Bell]

Diaz: I'm taking my ball and going home

Also, Diaz vs Alves/Kampmann winner!

[Sense]

:lmao the crying this shit is getting on facebook is amazing.. just watching everyone predicting Diaz to win... I was always rooting for Condit. He got the perfect technical win.. just like a boxer would against a hard hitter. He CLEARLY won the fight, the fact that people are saying he was running away is hilarious. Not everyone is a fan of MMA, but if you're saying he was JUST running away.. that's bullshit. Diaz clearly "corners" his opponents and unloads when they are against the fence, if a fighter gets away from that and you call him out for "running" you're a dumbass. Condit was clearly the better fighter and I'm glad Diaz is retiring.. his reason though, STUPID. Don't blame it on the judging.. your ass got beat.

[mystargtr34]

Ah well... i was hoping Diaz would win to see Diaz GSP... not as interested in Condit GSP.

[dbreiden83080]

for some reason before this fight started I was wondering he would retire if he lost, not going to fight GSP...

He won't retire.. Diaz is only 28 and a great fighter that just IMO fought a bad fight. Even fighting badly he was close to winning. I had it 48-47 Condit and looking around seems a lot of people thought Diaz won because Condit backed up the whole fight.. Diaz needed to turn it up more starting in round 3. He'll be back. Fitch/Diaz is a good one to make..

[Sense]

Honestly I've always thought Diaz is overrated, in those "11" wins I saw him lose once... bad judging. Didn't happen here though, I'm glad it was called like it should have been called.

[dbreiden83080]

Ah well... i was hoping Diaz would win to see Diaz GSP... not as interested in Condit GSP.

Diaz GSP will still likely happen IMO.. Just not now..


I'm glad Diaz is retiring.. his reason though, STUPID. Don't blame it on the judging.. your ass got beat.

Diaz's retirement is about as believable as Bret Favre's.. He's 28 and only just now making the big money.. He is also easily 3 in that division and can still fight for the title down the road..

[dbreiden83080]

Honestly I've always thought Diaz is overrated, in those "11" wins I saw him lose once... bad judging. Didn't happen here though, I'm glad it was called like it should have been called.

Diaz didn't turn it up enough.. But shit what a chin that guy has.. Condit hits hard and he walked through everything he threw..

[dbreiden83080]

Fighters and Dana thought Nick won the fight..



@Jonnybones "Nick was pushing the entire fight and definitely landed more strikes than Condit from what I could see. That is a win in my books."

@clayguida "This is why you can't leave it up to the judges!"

@danawhite "Well this will be an interesting presser, I had Diaz winning that fight 3 out of 5"

@mark_munoz "I feel for you bro, we have all been screwed by the judges at least one time in our lives."

@verafied "My day started off bad, but didn't end as bad as Nicks. Aweful judging."

@Koscheck "Cecil Peoples made a bad call again? Didn't see that one coming."

@titoortiz "That's why you can't leave it in the judges hands, Nick was screwed tonight. Stay positive homie."

@ChuckLiddell "Can we start a petition to get some new judges?"

@FrankieEdgar "I had Nick winning 3 out of 5, horrible judging."

[Stringer_Bell]

I'm skeptical of some of those tweets, can't verify them and it's hard to believe other Jackson MMA guys would talk shit like that

[dbreiden83080]

I'm skeptical of some of those tweets, can't verify them and it's hard to believe other Jackson MMA guys would talk shit like that

I think it was a troll thread on Sherdog but on Facebook a lot of people think Diaz won. I thought he lost 3-2..

[Stringer_Bell]

I think it was a troll thread on Sherdog but on Facebook a lot of people think Diaz won. I thought he lost 3-2..

Phewwww, haha. I saw Frankie's tweet and I was like "bitch, you invented that gameplan" :lol

[dbreiden83080]

Diaz shoulda stood right in the center & called him to him to stop all that damn running!

Jackson is really the king of coming up with winning game-plans and he did it again.. He told Condit to fight a disciplined fight for 25 min if needed.. Diaz wears people down and then corners them for the kill. Condit moved out of danger every time Diaz has him cornered. Diaz could have put more pressure on but seemed convinced he was winning the fight by backing Carlos up even though i clearly heard Nate tell him going into round 5 "They're up 3-1" He obviously felt otherwise..

[CubanSucks]

Condit didn't fight to win. He fought to not lose!

explain that stupid logic. What was he supposed to do? Stand there toe to toe for 25 minutes? Diaz NEVER stopped pursuing!!! Yet Condit still stood his ground PLENTY. And knowing the chin of Diaz, Condit picked his shots plenty. If both guys had the gameplan of Diaz this fight would've probably been 2 minutes of brawling ending in a KO. I wouldn't call that smart. I'd call that more of a street fight rather than an MMA fight

[crc21209]

:lol Facebook judges....

[LakerHater]

What was he supposed to do? Stand there toe to toe for 25 minutes? Diaz NEVER stopped pursuing!!!
The thing is Condit said he was gonna go toe 2 toe & slug it out with him, I jus saw that vid a while ago, I try & look for it again!!!

[polandprzem]

IMO that was not a close fight. Condit was landing all the time and Nick was unable to provide his own game which he is master of.

Carlos was great. Those pushoffs and stopkicks were fantastic.
Jacksons gameplan worked fine. Diaz leg was sore as hell.

Anyway I could not believe ppl thought Diaz won it.
In the 4th I said - damn Condit is toying with Diaz.

I'm satisfied and want to see Condit vs Sanchez Ellenberger winner or even cocky Hendricks.

I understand Diaz not want to do this shit anymore. He was forced to do all the press shit and all that he hates and then robbed on decision.
Hyhy fuck him

[hehateme]

waiting on condit to go down with an "injury" to set up the buy rate for gsp v diaz fight...

[dbreiden83080]

IMO that was not a close fight. Condit was landing all the time and Nick was unable to provide his own game which he is master of.

Carlos was great. Those pushoffs and stopkicks were fantastic.
Jacksons gameplan worked fine. Diaz leg was sore as hell.

Anyway I could not believe ppl thought Diaz won it.
In the 4th I said - damn Condit is toying with Diaz.

I'm satisfied and want to see Condit vs Sanchez Ellenberger winner or even cocky Hendricks.

I understand Diaz not want to do this shit anymore. He was forced to do all the press shit and all that he hates and then robbed on decision.
Hyhy fuck him


Historically in boxing and MMA judges do no reward fighters who back up and try to counter. I rewatched the fight and you could make a case Diaz edged out the first 2 RDS and def he got the 5th. But Diaz has no room to complain. He did not push the pace when there was ample time for him to do so. Diaz seemed convinced he was winning the fight and maybe he laid back more than he should have.

[dbreiden83080]

http://oi42.tinypic.com/32zkydv.jpg

And Fight Metric had Condit winning a very close fight..


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=condit%20diaz%20fight%20metric&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDQQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.fightmetric.com%2F2012%2F02% 2Fcondit-vs-diaz-official-ufc-statistics.html&ei=TLYuT-nnBOHV0QHu7JXpCg&usg=AFQjCNFwvbqi2xrgsTk2A1R8eUcgpCOneA&sig2=Y-ms-NX16QlC4a7jAyEBTg

[MannyIsGod]

Really don't understand what people are bitching about. I thought it was close, but I thought Condit won. The 5th round was obviously Diaz but he wasted the first two rounds by taunting instead of fighting. You're going to tell me that doesn't play into the minds of the people judging?

Diaz deserves to lose simply because he didn't think he had to fucking try. If he comes out balls to the wall early on and actually gives the fight the proper respect it deserves he probably wins easily.

[MannyIsGod]

Really don't understand what people are bitching about. I thought it was close, but I thought Condit won. The 5th round was obviously Diaz but he wasted the first two rounds by taunting instead of fighting. You're going to tell me that doesn't play into the minds of the people judging?

Diaz deserves to lose simply because he didn't think he had to fucking try. If he comes out balls to the wall early on and actually gives the fight the proper respect it deserves he probably wins easily.

[ace3g]

My main issue with the decision was that it was unanimous not split. What I thought was going to happen was that Condit would see his strikes weren't landing effectively so he would take the fight to the ground, and Diaz would take adv with his BJJ. That didn't happen of course and that might have been part of the game plan considering Condit never attempted a TD or clinch for that matter. I'll give him props for his RNC defense at the end of the 5th, thought it was over once Diaz got the hooks in.

I'm sure at one point or another we will see Diaz/Condit again as well as GSP/Diaz.

[mystargtr34]

How long is GSP out for? What about a rematch before GSP gets healthy.

[mercos]

I had Condit winning the fight easily. Nick may have gotten points for aggression, but Octagon control was all Condit. His movement dictated where the fight was fought. Diaz wanted it against the cage and could not get it there. Constantly moving forward is not Octagon control. Condit was beating Diaz to the punch every time with his excellent movement and footwork, and Nick never adjusted. He just kept coming forward. That was a clinic on how to deal with an advancing opponent.

[ace3g]

Dana considering rematch if GSP isn't ready on time:


I was thinking the same thing. It's crazy, but. I was thinking it after the fight. You know, people are bitching and thinking it was close or whatever, we can do that fight again before GSP comes back. It depends on Carlos too, he's really gotta say, and Nick's gotta say I want to fight him again too."

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/2/6/2774965/ufc-143-results-nick-diaz-vs-carlos-condit-rematch-dana-white

[MannyIsGod]

Thats shitty. Carlos looks bad if he tries to duck Diaz but the truth is that he earned the fucking title shot they took from him to begin with. Stop fucking with Condit. God damn I hate Dana fucking White.

[mercos]

I would much rather see Condit rematch Ellenberger if he gets past Diego Sanchez. That was a closer fight than Condit vs Diaz.

[dbreiden83080]

Thats shitty. Carlos looks bad if he tries to duck Diaz but the truth is that he earned the fucking title shot they took from him to begin with. Stop fucking with Condit. God damn I hate Dana fucking White.

He likely won't have to fight Diaz if he is opposed to it but maybe someone else if GSP is really out until Nov. Hell GSP could be out longer maybe Dec or Jan he is not going to rush back and risk a career ending injury.. Dana already tried to suggest GSP coud be back by summer and GSP dispelled that telling reporters his doctors are saying November at earliest..

[desflood]

Thats shitty. Carlos looks bad if he tries to duck Diaz but the truth is that he earned the fucking title shot they took from him to begin with. Stop fucking with Condit.
:tu

[polandprzem]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/2/7/2783330/the-mma-hour-episode-no-117-cesar-gracie

[polandprzem]

http://blog.fightmetric.com/2012/02/condit-vs-diaz-official-ufc-statistics.html

[polandprzem]

http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/2/9/2787325/ufc-143-nevada-state-athletic-commission-confirms-nick-diaz-carlos-condit-positive-drug-test

The Nevada State Athletic Commission has confirmed that someone tested positive for a banned substance in drug testing at UFC 143. What has not yet been confirmed is who that someone was, or what that substance was.

In an e-mail to the media sent on Thursday, Nevada State Athletic Commission Executive Director Keith Kizer acknowledged that there has been great sustained interest in knowing what the results of drug tests were at UFC 143, and he confirmed that someone tested positive. But he declined to elaborate further than that.

"Thank you for the many email and phone calls. I am still waiting for all the steroid and drug test results to come back. We did have at least one positive test. I will send out an email later today on that matter," Kizer said in his e-mail, in which the word "many" was bolded.

[desflood]

Gee, I wonder who it was.

[resistanze]

:lol Losing while juiced.

[BlackSwordsMan]

:lol Losing while juiced.

Do you know who diaz is? He doesn't juice hes been busted for weed before

[tlongII]

Diaz was probably firing up a spleef before the fight. :lol

[BlackSwordsMan]

well it was weed

[BlackSwordsMan]

http://mmajunkie.com/news/27355/nick-diaz-tests-positive-for-marijuana-faces-disciplinary-action-following-ufc-143.mma

[resistanze]

Damn, wish it was juice.

[Stringer_Bell]

Thats shitty. Carlos looks bad if he tries to duck Diaz but the truth is that he earned the fucking title shot they took from him to begin with. Stop fucking with Condit. God damn I hate Dana fucking White.

This. The Diaz situation is karma for dicking Condit around so soon after earning his title shot.

It's common knowledge that Diaz smokes weed until 10 or so days out from the fights, detoxs and cuts weight, and he's in the clear. Joe Rogan even talked about it recently. I don't think it gave him much of an advantage, and it totally fucks with all the awesome fights he could have that aren't Condit or GSP...but I blame this all on the UFC's bad karma.

[leemajors]

This. The Diaz situation is karma for dicking Condit around so soon after earning his title shot.

It's common knowledge that Diaz smokes weed until 10 or so days out from the fights, detoxs and cuts weight, and he's in the clear. Joe Rogan even talked about it recently. I don't think it gave him much of an advantage, and it totally fucks with all the awesome fights he could have that aren't Condit or GSP...but I blame this all on the UFC's bad karma.

"Train all day, Rogan podcast all night... All Night!!" I think I messed it up, but that is the gist of it.