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Winehole23
01-18-2012, 02:42 AM
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The line everyone remembers from his response: "When I came back from Vietnam in 1965, I just had the greatest brainwashing anybody can get when you go over to Vietnam." But he continued with a devastating, prophetic, and one-thousand-percent-correct assessment: that staying in Vietnam would be a disaster. The public, and certainly the pundits, weren't ready to hear it. All they heard was the word "brainwashing" – not in the colloquial sense in which Romney obviously intended it, but as something literal. Here was this weird dude accusing our generals and diplomats of Svengali-like mind control. The mockery was swift and furious. ("I would have thought a light rinse would do," William F. Buckley said – hilarious! Only an idiot would criticize the Vietnam War!) Romney nose-dived sixteen points in the next Harris poll. As I wrote in my book Nixonland (http://www.amazon.com/Nixonland-Rise-President-Fracturing-America/dp/074324303X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1310387483&sr=8-1), on Vietnam a national brainwashing continued apace.


The Mormon bishop, however, did not quit. Instead he leapfrogged across New Hampshire telling unseasonable truths – that LBJ was "spinning a web of delusion," and that "when you want to win the hearts and minds of people, you don't kill them and destroy their property. You don't use bombers and tanks and napalm to save them."


His opponent, meanwhile, running what you might call a robotic campaign, just bullshitted about Vietnam, hinting he had a secret plan to end it. The truth was a dull weapon to take into a knife fight with Richard Nixon – who kicked Romney's ass with 79 percent of the vote. When people call his son the "Rombot," think about that: Mitt learned at an impressionable age that in politics, authenticity kills. Heeding the lesson of his father's fall, he became a virtual parody of an inauthentic politician. In 1994 he ran for senate to Ted Kennedy's left on gay rights; as governor, of course, he installed the dreaded individual mandate into Massachusetts' healthcare system. Then he raced to the right to run for president.
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/what-mitt-romney-learned-from-his-dad-20120117#ixzz1jnFnB4rZ

Winehole23
01-18-2012, 03:17 AM
That's another rebellion against his late dad. Not only was George Romney, that loser, ironclad in his ideological commitments; his vision of how capitalism should work was in every particular the exact opposite of the one pushed by the vulture capitalist he sired. (If George Romney's AMC was around now, Mitt Romney's Bain Capital would probably be busy turning it into a carcass.) A critic once said he was "so dedicated to good works his entrance into politics is like sending a Salvation Army lass into the chorus at a burlesque house." As a CEO he would give back part of his salary and bonus to the company when he thought they were too high. He offered a pioneering profit-sharing plan to his employees. Most strikingly, asked about the idea that "rugged individualism" was the key to America's success, he snapped back, "It's nothing but a political banner to cover up greed." (http://books.google.com/books?id=e1A8AAAAIAAJ&q=%22banner+to+cover+up+greed%22&dq=%22banner+to+cover+up+greed%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=a1kPT-2LEurk0QGX8qGoAw&ved=0CEQQ6AEwAQ) He was the poster child for the antiquated notion that corporations have multiple stakeholders: the workers that breathe them life, the communities in which they are situated, and the nation to whom they owe a patriotic obligation – most definitely and emphatically not just stockholders, as Mitt and his defenders say (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71349_Page2.html).




In the video above, today's Romney insists there is no reason to question the distribution of wealth in America except for envy of the rich – did his rich dad question the distribution of wealth in America out of envy for the rich? – and that it was a subject only appropriate for discussion in "quiet rooms." (His dad didn't talk about it in quiet rooms; he talked about it at a Sunday worship service at the 1972 Republican convention, praying, "Help us to help those who need help.") Even if Mitt Romney is not the most right-wing candidate for the nomination, when he wins it, in a Republican Party becoming more extreme with every passing day, he may still be – because the party won’t have it any other way – the most right-wing nominee in the history of the country.


Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/what-mitt-romney-learned-from-his-dad-20120117#ixzz1jnOqCqNj

angrydude
01-18-2012, 03:32 AM
What the hell does right wing even mean anymore? Fascist? Neo-conish? He'd have a hard time topping Obama on those two.

Winehole23
01-18-2012, 03:35 AM
very true. also very scary to consider, considering that Romney'd probably try to outdo Obama if he wins in November.

AFBlue
01-18-2012, 11:05 AM
very true. also very scary to consider, considering that Romney'd probably try to outdo Obama if he wins in November.

Agree on this point as he has seemingly tried to out-hawk Obama on a couple issues in foreign policy. The most notable example is a timetable for withdrawal of surged troops in AFG, which Romney has decried. Unfortunately, I don't exactly know what that means as far as his exit criteria or strategy.

SnakeBoy
01-18-2012, 01:04 PM
considering that Romney'd probably try to outdo Obama if he wins in November.

I'm not sure you're right about that. The military actions of our last two presidents have been the opposite of their candidate positions. If the precedent holds Romney will be a dove.

Winehole23
01-18-2012, 01:06 PM
i'm not sure I'm right either.

lol Presidential biorhythyms

AFBlue
01-18-2012, 01:12 PM
i'm not sure I'm right either.

lol Presidential biorhythyms

:lol