Game Blog: Spurs vs Kings - Jan. 20 (7:30 PM CST)

[Fillmoe]

How did it feel to get a$$ raped by the refs and lakers

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[jag]

Calling it now: Tiago stop, Neal shot.

:corn:

[Obstructed_View]

This lineup is fucking stupid. Why isn't Duncan in.

Duncan doesn't cover the jump shooters, though. Where the hell is Kawhi Leonard?

[sammy]

Where's Duncan! I just got home from work.

[loveforthegame]

Awful.

[024]

grab the rebound guys...

[angelbelow]

Great defense by Tiago but ALMOST lost the ball. Close one.

[DesignatedT]

Gary Neal for the win!

[urunobili]

let's go to OT plz no treys

[Texas_Ranger]

neal for the win

[Obstructed_View]

And leonard comes in and the Spurs get the ball. Hope it's not too little too late.

[DPG21920]

Tiago did well on that switch, RJ has to secure that board.

Well, the first part of my prediction was correct, Tiago stop.

Will Neal make me clairvoyant two games in a row????

[bklynspursfan]

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SO mad... lol :lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

[loveforthegame]

Kings have a foul so we must attack quickly.

[Nathan89]

Pop is pathetic

Pop sucks. I like playing Tiago but small ball blows.

[WeNeedLength]

I gotta bad feeling

[ElNono]

RJ with the clank

[bklynspursfan]

let's go to OT plz no treys

I agree

[easy7]

Shit...make 3 and win it..

[jag]

This lineup is fucking stupid. Why isn't Duncan in.

Pop is giving people a chance to see Splitter.

...with Bonner of course.

[BoricuaCJA]

Lets win this! Go Spurs GO!!!!

[Mal]

Take OT Pop. Dont go for win here.

[timtonymanu]

They're going for the 3..

Let's hope someone has balls.

[GSH]

Manuuu Tiiime.

Oh, shit.

[Obstructed_View]

You go for the win...

on the road.

Let's see a layup please.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

neal you better hit this shot you asshole

[sammy]

Finally Duncan in! Why wasn't he in earlier! Pop's poor decision!

[maddnezz]

I honestly believe Tiago did nt expect Tony to pass him the ball cause Tony never does that's why you have to show sone consistency in your game of shooting or passing. Tony dont get that part......

[DesignatedT]

Duncan in to set the scren

[Quiet Strength]

lol what the hell was that

[MannyIsGod]

Lucky to end up with the ball.

[loveforthegame]

Omg

[Obstructed_View]

Kings have a foul so we must attack quickly.

Going toward the basket is a nice fix for that. Setting up the three though. Fail.

[angelbelow]

Heres that Bonner 3 I've been hoping for!

[bklynspursfan]

That was the worst floater I've ever seen.

[DPG21920]

Shit, good look, Danny has to finish. He choked it.

[WeNeedLength]

f.u.c.k.

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

crofl lameee

[urunobili]

shitty play...

[jag]

That was an interesting play call. That's a lot of work to do in 5 seconds.

[easy7]

Shit wtf was that...

[Trainwreck2100]

they had two chip shots to tie it and they missed them both

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Spurs are a .500 team

we will be lucky to make the playoffs at this rate

[DMC]

How do you airball a running hook shot that close to the rim?

[Crookshanks]

One word - DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Spurs Brazil]

Lose to the Kings at home is pathetic

[Obstructed_View]

Yay. Way to defend those jump shooters.

[Warlord23]

Lol wtf was that play?

[timtonymanu]

I'm pissed.

[Mal]

Lol

[DesignatedT]

Green with a good look., but another miss.

[bklynspursfan]

How do you airball a running hook shot that close to the rim?

:depressed

[timtonymanu]

Wasted our first road win with this BS.

[Nathan89]

Pop just losing games for us. Nothing to see here.

[Obstructed_View]

How do you airball a running hook shot that close to the rim?

Not having the clutch gene.

[sammy]

This just plain sucks! Too lose to that shitty team! Pop is to blame for this BS loss! Bonner in too long and Duncan on the bench! WTF!

[Fillmoe]

good game spurs fans.

[BoricuaCJA]

WTF! Same play from Green and same results!

[Fireball]

Spurs are a .500 team

we will be lucky to make the playoffs at this rate

Spurs miss their best player and have no back up PG ... what do you expect

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lmao

[Texas_Ranger]

Can't wait to see us lose by 20 tomorrow in Houston

[InK]

Haha Danny you go girl

[bklynspursfan]

Tim missed a fairly easy put back too. don't know if it would count or not

[Obstructed_View]

Wow I love how LP just cuts off the game 5 seconds after the horn goes.

[ElNono]

Well, at least Tim should be fresh to play in Houston tomorrow :rolleyes

[timtonymanu]

Time to get our tired asses kicked tomorrow and another soft speech by Pop.

[timvp]

Apparently Pop thinks Green is Manu Ginobili. Almost every clutch play recently has been run through him.

[MannyIsGod]

Pop was a fucking idiot tonight. Jesus Christ.

[Quiet Strength]

How do you airball a running hook shot that close to the rim?

Bonner must have taught him

[angelbelow]

lol fuck

[loveforthegame]

They wanted to go to Parker but Evans had him locked up. Green with a nice move but came up short.

[pgardn]

Makes no sense.

Actually timvp nailed it...

Ungodly timing.

[WeNeedLength]

Rested Timmy only to bring him in cold with 5 seconds.... fuck you Pop. Losing to the Kings at home... to Westphal and Cousins.... :wtf Shit.

[easy7]

Meltdown time...

[bklynspursfan]

:lmao

Seriously... I think we spent too much time in South Beach, the choking is infectious.

[Spurs Brazil]

The role players that were making shots last week can't make shit now.

Green, Neal, Bonner, Jefferson...

[DeadlyDynasty]

What a way to drop your first home game:lol

[timtonymanu]

Pop, RJ, Bonner, Neal = F times a million

[GB20]

it was a good play but not for green.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Another poor loss that Spurs should've won. The worst part is we get to play the Rockets tommorow, a team we have struggled with greatly this season. :(

[DesignatedT]

It's pretty simple really. Our role players who usually hit open shots are not right now. Bonner, RJ, Green and Neal have all been pretty bad shooting the ball as of late and we wont win with that. They keep getting open look after open look and its brick city over and over again with those guys. Especially Green and Neal.


but lets go back to blaming it on Pop and Parker.

[Mal]

That sucks. Take easy win at home, against Sacto, and dont give a shit about resting for tomorrow, until you secure a win. Pop fault, this game was a lost. Too much Bonner, too much Green.

[PublicOption]

well that sucks.

[siraulo23]

lmao losing to Kings at home

[MannyIsGod]

Look, Tim is not the same as he once was but I'd rather have the corpse of Tim Duncan in a game playing point guard then RJ at any position.

Also, these Spurs do not have a high margin of victory so Pop fucking around with Danny Green last second shots when you have much better options all around is enough to make me want to punch a baby.

Pop's brain belongs on the injury report.

[Spurs Brazil]

Pop played that lineup almost the whole 4th quarter. Guys were tired. And when he took Bonner out, instead to stay big with TD he went small. We were up 4 at that point

[Pauleta14]

I couldn't see the end, but is it Danny Green who took the last shot... AGAIN???

WTF Since when is he anywhere close to a clutch shooter??

Not Duncan, Not Parker?

I honestly don't get it...

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

would really love to understand pop's reasoning for not playing kawhi and duncan the last couple mins of the game.

[Obstructed_View]

Spurs miss their best player and have no back up PG ... what do you expect

The Spurs choose not to have a back up point guard. They picked the guy for a reason. The guy that was picked ahead of him currently gets heavy minutes on one of the best teams in the league. I expect the Spurs not to give up on a first round draft pick just because he's not Michael Jordan right out of the gate.

[timtonymanu]

What a way to drop your first home game:lol

:lol it does suck ass. Pop will blame the loss on Splitter now.

[DPG21920]

I am ok with giving Tiago the minutes, he's earned them. While continuing to give Green last second shots is strange he did end up with a way above average look.

[HarlemHeat37]

Spurs win, had they given a stronger effort and more energy in the 1st quarter..they put themselves in a bad hole, against a bad team..

I would have ran a play for a 3-pointer at the end..

[Obstructed_View]

Look, Tim is not the same as he once was but I'd rather have the corpse of Tim Duncan in a game playing point guard then RJ at any position.

Also, these Spurs do not have a high margin of victory so Pop fucking around with Danny Green last second shots when you have much better options all around is enough to make me want to punch a baby.

Pop's brain belongs on the injury report.

That's fair. RJ certainly didn't help at any point, so having him in the game for so long makes little sense.

[jag]

I've never seen a coach refuse to play his two best 7-footers together. He sat Duncan in the 4th and paired Bonner with Tiago. The Orlando win just became meaningless because this game should have been a W.

[DesignatedT]

The role players that were making shots last week can't make shit now.

Green, Neal, Bonner, Jefferson...

That's really all it is. They shoot lights out = we win games. They don't = we lose. It was like that all last season as well but our guys were having unbelievable years shooting the rock.

[timtonymanu]

I knew that 1st quarter would come back and bite us in the ass.

Evans lucky ass 3 to end that quarter was the killer.

[ElNono]

It's pretty simple really. Our role players who usually hit open shots are not right now. Bonner, RJ, Green and Neal have all been pretty bad shooting the ball as of late and we wont win with that. They keep getting open look after open look and its brick city over and over again with those guys. Especially Green and Neal.

but lets go back to blaming it on Pop and Parker.

They shot 23% from 3 compared to 20% for the Spurs... I will put this loss both on Pop for not playing Duncan the last 3 mins and, frankly, TP played like garbage for a good amount of the game too.

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lol it does suck ass. Pop will blame the loss on Splitter now.

I can't believe he got more minutes than Bonner tonight...judging by the boxscore he played well, but I didn't see the game so........

[DMC]

Tim has missed some huge putbacks at the end of games, one in Detroit that I recall for sure.

[DesignatedT]

Not to mention we are without Manu and TJ who is a pretty big loss right now seeing that Tony is gassed at the end of every game here.

[jag]

What a way to drop your first home game:lol

Hello

[ElNono]

We had a 4 point lead with 2:30 to go... with role players missing shots...

[Splits]

It's pretty simple really. Our role players who usually hit open shots are not right now. Bonner, RJ, Green and Neal have all been pretty bad shooting the ball as of late and we wont win with that. They keep getting open look after open look and its brick city over and over again with those guys. Especially Green and Neal.


but lets go back to blaming it on Pop and Parker.

[DesignatedT]

I will put this loss both on Pop for not playing Duncan the last 3 mins and, frankly, TP played like garbage for a good amount of the game too.

Of course you will.... I expect nothing less from you.

[DMC]

Spurs are not the same with Manu out, that's for sure. If they get 500 ball until he returns, that will be a bonus imo. There's just no creator out there, none.

[StoneBuddha]

That sucks. Take easy win at home, against Sacto, and dont give a shit about resting for tomorrow, until you secure a win. Pop fault, this game was a lost. Too much Bonner, too much Green.

This one is definitely on Pop. He was either looking at the big picture of getting the second unit crunch time minutes, or a miscalculated attempt to rest Duncan prematurely so he could play tomorrow. I'm not even sure Duncan played any 4th quarter minutes. Sigh..

[ElNono]

Of course you will.... I expect nothing less from you.

So this wasn't a winnable game, despite the poor shooting?

[DPG21920]

Can't believe they lost after holding them to 15 points in the fourth.

[MannyIsGod]

No one an Spin this as anything but a game where Pop fucked up hugely. Well you can I guess, but all I need to do is post a picture of RJ to refute that.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Hello

hey neighbor

[ElNono]

Neal, Bonner, RJ and Green are responsible for not playing your best players when you're up 4 at home with 2:30 to go... :rolleyes

[MannyIsGod]

Can't believe they lost after holding them to 15 points in the fourth.

A bit of a mirage, IMO. Sac missed more open shots than the Spurs actually played good D.

[DMC]

No one an Spin this as anything but a game where Pop fucked up hugely. Well you can I guess, but all I need to do is post a picture of RJ to refute that.

If Green hits that shot, different story. It could have gone either way, and we were down what, 15 in the 2nd and lose by 2.

Don't take too much from one game. Let's see how it looks around the break.

[jag]

Can't believe they lost after holding them to 15 points in the fourth.

They can't make stops when it matters.

[Nathan89]

Tim has missed some huge putbacks at the end of games, one in Detroit that I recall for sure.

He still had his warm-ups on though.

Small ball was a genius move by Pop. Really seemed like everything went well from that point.

Pop:lmao
small ball :lmao
Tim on the bench:lmao
no tim and tiago:lmao

[SKINNYPIMP210]

I can not believe we lost that fucking game... There were so many plays where Tony was running the offense and he made the worst decisions... This shit keeps happening, we have a chance to get a comfortable lead then we fuck it up. It happened in Orlando we just got lucky. We could of won this game, we played great D in the second half, granted we couldn't hit the side of a barn but we could have won. It was just key plays that ruined it. That's just my rant, I love Tony but this loss is his fault.

[DesignatedT]

So this wasn't a winnable game, despite the poor shooting?

We lost by 2....? It was obviously winnable lmao.

Replace Splitter with Duncan and I think our role players still lose the game for us. I don't really see what Duncan would have done those last few minutes that Tiago wasn't doing.

[DPG21920]

A bit of a mirage, IMO. Sac missed more open shots than the Spurs actually played good D.

Ehh, I actually thought they played with great energy and made things tough. Not amazing d, but very solid.

[DMC]

They can't make stops when it matters.

When it matters: That's the antidote for RJ and Bonner

[jag]

A bit of a mirage, IMO. Sac missed more open shots than the Spurs actually played good D.

Exactly

[ElNono]

Can't believe they lost after holding them to 15 points in the fourth.

Despite their good 1st quarter, Sacramento is a terrible team on the road

[Obstructed_View]

A bit of a mirage, IMO. Sac missed more open shots than the Spurs actually played good D.

I thought the defense was pretty damn good, but you can't just stand there and let the two hottest guys through the game shoot open jumpers at the end. Pros hit uncontested shit. Funny that the Spurs forget that so often.

[Buddy Holly]

Fucking Pop with that shit lineup the entire 4th?!

No Kawhi?

Oh yeah, we needed Jefferson for his scorin... for his defen... for his... fuck!

[Mal]

The Spurs choose not to have a back up point guard. They picked the guy for a reason. The guy that was picked ahead of him currently gets heavy minutes on one of the best teams in the league. I expect the Spurs not to give up on a first round draft pick just because he's not Michael Jordan right out of the gate.

Who are you talking about ?

[pgardn]

Not to mention we are without Manu and TJ who is a pretty big loss right now seeing that Tony is gassed at the end of every game here.

This is why I cant get on Parker. He played his azz off.

All in all we lost but Tiago may be building some faith with Pop. If he just could have hit that shot in the lane. Damn. We have some tools on the bench to work with. Get Manu back and TJ back and we will be fine imo.

This is how guys break into the rotation, injuries can be a blessing to the coach in a sick way.

[Obstructed_View]

We lost by 2....? It was obviously winnable lmao.

Replace Splitter with Duncan and I think our role players still lose the game for us. I don't really see what Duncan would have done those last few minutes that Tiago wasn't doing.

Someone might have actually passed him the fucking ball in the post. I dunno, though.

[Buddy Holly]

We lost by 2....? It was obviously winnable lmao.

Replace Splitter with Duncan and I think our role players still lose the game for us. I don't really see what Duncan would have done those last few minutes that Tiago wasn't doing.

You replace Bonner with Duncan.

You replace Jefferson with Kawhi.

Pop needs to get his shit together.

[jag]

Ehh, I actually thought they played with great energy and made things tough. Not amazing d, but very solid.

Sacto plays sloppy and loose with the ball. They're expected to take dumb shots, make bonehead plays and turn the ball over. Splitter did well on Cousins a few times, but there wasn't anyone else on the floor who could matchup 1v1. Green was playing 8 feet off Tyreke because he knew he'd be taken off the dribble otherwise.

[DesignatedT]

You replace Bonner with Duncan. Not Splitter.

You replace Jefferson with Kawhi.

Pop needs to get his shit together.

Well that wasn't the question I was asked but I think we all pretty much agree with this.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't blame Pop for not playing Duncan(after accepting the fact that Duncan-Splitter together wasn't an option for him)..Splitter did his job well..

Having RJ on the court is questionable, though..

I didn't like Pop's last playcall, especially to Danny Green, although it was a pretty decent look..

Spurs' players choked down the stretch, they had sufficient enough of a lead to assume they would close the game out..

More importantly, a better effort in the 1st wins the game, easily..

[Obstructed_View]

Who are you talking about ?

Cory Joseph. The Spurs seem to think that guys get better sitting around watching other people play basketball, punish them for making mistakes, then trade them or let them leave for nothing. Norris Cole has got to be thanking his personal god that Miami moved up to take him.

[Obstructed_View]

More importantly, a better effort in the 1st wins the game, easily..

You can't give a good team a big early lead and expect to win, and you sometimes can't even give a bad team a big early lead and recover from it.

[DesignatedT]

RJ: 2-8
Green: 4-11
Neal: 3-12

Guarantee 75% of these shots were wide ass open . This is where these games are lost.

[ElNono]

We lost by 2....? It was obviously winnable lmao.

Replace Splitter with Duncan and I think our role players still lose the game for us. I don't really see what Duncan would have done those last few minutes that Tiago wasn't doing.

Why not play both and Leonard? What is it that was lost by not putting your best players on the floor?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Why does Pop continuously do shit like this?

For once, we get our Splitter request, yet he goes and shoves RJ in there for most of crunch time and he shits the bed as usual....

Neal sucks cock, but we honestly have no other option BUT Neal right now, but Leonard at least gives you rebounds and defense

Do you really think Leonard would have let Cousins rip that ball away from him when we were up 6 with 2:30 to go?

[Mal]

We lost by 2....? It was obviously winnable lmao.

Replace Splitter with Duncan and I think our role players still lose the game for us. I don't really see what Duncan would have done those last few minutes that Tiago wasn't doing.

In close game you go with the best you have. Splitter played good, but Duncan is way better. I dont say Duncan would score points, defend paint that Thiago couldnt. He would do same, but his presence would benefit everyone in team. Dont think guys out there, react the same when they play with Duncan or Splitter.

God, put Duncan and Splitter together. Defend the paint, secure rebounds of missed jumpers, set play or give one of them to post up. Old Spurs basketball. Defense and deadly set plays. No Manu to help, but they were Sacramento Kings, not Miami.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Well that sucked, nut whatever, it was nice to see Splitter get a lot of playing time.

Hopefully the trend continues tomorrow.

[ElNono]

RJ: 2-8
Green: 4-11
Neal: 3-12

Guarantee 75% of these shots were wide ass open also. This is where these games are lost.

So we roll with those guys to close the game when Duncan is sitting on the bench being 4-8...

Up 4, at home, 2:30 to go...

[DPG21920]

It should, Amused. HOU doesn't have stretch bigs.

[ElNono]

Well that wasn't the question I was asked but I think we all pretty much agree with this.

That's all I asked for... especially when RJ switches on Evans who is 10-19 out there... why not throw a trap or a double on Evans and have somebody else beat us? Pop used to do that shit all the time when he actually gave a shit about winning...

[Mal]

Cory Joseph. The Spurs seem to think that guys get better sitting around watching other people play basketball, punish them for making mistakes, then trade them or let them leave for nothing. Norris Cole has got to be thanking his personal god that Miami moved up to take him.

yeah, I was like, wtf, when Spurs drafted freshmen PG in 1 st round. And know this guy is in doghouse for 2 years at least, or Toros.

[pgardn]

I am not a pop hater but it was very obvious Jefferson was extraordinarily shaky the entire game. He did not want the ball. He hid from the ball, tried to make himself unavailable on a couple of possessions. Cant play 4 on 5 on the offensive end. He took a few good charges, etc... but jesus, he did not want anything to do with the ball, not even as a conduit to get out of trouble.

[ElNono]

BTW, I'm not saying we would assuredly won the game if Tim and Leonard are out there... but you can't tell me with a straight face that the lineup that closed that game was the best we have

[DesignatedT]

Why are people coming at me saying that Duncan and Splitter should have been in the game together lmao.

I thought it was pretty much general consensus on this board that everyone agrees with that sentiment. Continuing to argue about that is beyond retarded and is just spinning your wheels. Obviously it isn't going to happen so I was excluding that idea and going with the next. I saw nothing that Duncan would have changed those last 3 minutes if he were in the game instead of Tiago.

Of course I would rather them both be in at the same time... (Do I even have to say this)

[jag]

Why not play both and Leonard? What is it that was lost by not putting your best players on the floor?

[InK]

Cory Joseph. The Spurs seem to think that guys get better sitting around watching other people play basketball, punish them for making mistakes, then trade them or let them leave for nothing. Norris Cole has got to be thanking his personal god that Miami moved up to take him.

Heh

[Mal]

I am not a pop hater but it was very obvious Jefferson was extraordinarily shaky the entire game. He did not want the ball. He hid from the ball, tried to make himself unavailable on a couple of possessions.le.

Yeah, I was unlucky to turn this game on, when RJ stayed , wide open for 3 sec, and didnt shot. I thought - mhm, not good.

[Splits]

20% from distance at home while resting starters is not going to get it done. This loss is on the 3pt shooters, all of them. If you can't can 1/3 at home from long range, then you don't deserve to win.

[pgardn]

yeah, I was like, wtf, when Spurs drafted freshmen PG in 1 st round. And know this guy is in doghouse for 2 years at least, or Toros.

We know he is not an NBA pg yet, maybe never. Neal is actually better with the ball than Joseph right now and thats pretty awful. You dont expect to lose two guys that can both play point (manu and Tj)

[Giuseppe]

I'm not here to rub salt into wounds, or, to redden any asses. Just wanted to stop in and check some balloon knots.

I'll go back downstairs now.

Chow!

[ElNono]

Why are people coming at me saying that Duncan and Splitter should have been in the game together lmao.

I thought it was pretty much general consensus on this board that everyone agrees with that sentiment. Continuing to argue about that is beyond retarded and is just spinning your wheels. Obviously it isn't going to happen so I was excluding that idea and going with the next. I saw nothing that Duncan would have changed those last 3 minutes if he were in the game for Tiago.

Of course I would rather them both be in at the same time... (Do I even have to say this)

It's no knock on you, but the only reason they don't play together is Pop... so who I have to point my finger to?

Tiago was doing a good job on Cousins, and Tim can provide the offense... I don't know what's Pop thinking, tbh

[timtonymanu]

20% from distance at home while resting starters is not going to get it done. This loss is on the 3pt shooters, all of them. If you can't can 1/3 at home from long range, then you don't deserve to win.

It's amazing how all of our 3 point shooters are slumping at the same time.

Bonner, Neal, Green, RJ all of them.

[Sean Cagney]

Tim has missed some huge putbacks at the end of games, one in Detroit that I recall for sure.

That was 05 man lol, he has hit some as well (Moreso than not), why bring this up now? That game was all on Pop there, Green had a horrible shot as well at the end.

[Imp23]

What is Pop doing? Green taking the last shot? The floater ain't in his game.

[DesignatedT]

Love the way Greens been playing and it's not a knock on him but I'm not so sure I'd like Anderson to be completely out of the lineup for good already. Would like to see him get at least one more shot with some consistent minutes before they bury his ass on the bench for good this year.

[ElNono]

Heck, this was a game where if Manu is healthy you would sit him out to rest... Kings are that bad on the road... this is only their second win...

Inexcusable loss when the game was within reach

[jag]

I'm not here to rub salt into wounds, or, to redden any asses. Just wanted to stop in and check some balloon knots.

I'll go back downstairs now.

Chow!

:lol

[ElNono]

Love the way Greens been playing and it's not a knock on him but I'm not so sure I'd like Anderson to be completely out of the lineup for good already. Would like to see him get at least one more shot with some consistent minutes before they bury his ass on the bench for good this year.

Green gets a lot slack here, and sometimes rightly so, but his attitude on the court, to me, it's a great addition... he plays with a passion. That's why I despise looking at RJ with the deer-in-the-headlights attitude... it's like black and white

[Obstructed_View]

We know he is not an NBA pg yet, maybe never. Neal is actually better with the ball than Joseph right now and thats pretty awful. You dont expect to lose two guys that can both play point (manu and Tj)

Why do we "know" this? He has just over one hour of NBA floortime.

[Spursnlego]

Just got back from the game.
Pathetic...

[ElNono]

Why do we "know" this? He has just over one hour of NBA floortime.

I agree. Corey should play, at least while TJ is out. That's what the regular season is for.

[Obstructed_View]

Love the way Greens been playing and it's not a knock on him but I'm not so sure I'd like Anderson to be completely out of the lineup for good already. Would like to see him get at least one more shot with some consistent minutes before they bury his ass on the bench for good this year.

Yet another Spurs' draft pick given up on and destined for a trade for a conditional second rounder...

[Budkin]

We seriously just lost at home to one of the worst teams in the league? Fuck.

[Obstructed_View]

I agree. Corey should play, at least while TJ is out. That's what the regular season is for.

Particulaly this year. The Spurs fucking knew that they weren't going to have training camp when they picked him. I'm unsure how Pop thinks he has the luxury of not playing Joseph, not playing Anderson, and only giving Splitter a few minutes a night.

[Reck]

The Spurs should see this season as a retooling one.

Send Duncan to the house. He absolutely has nothing left. Only reason he still there is because of commodity.

Pop needs to GTFO too. They have been running his game for wayyyy to long.

Write it down, if teh Spurs somehow make it to the playoffs they will get the same treatment as last year.

[Killakobe81]

I don't blame Pop for not playing Duncan(after accepting the fact that Duncan-Splitter together wasn't an option for him)..Splitter did his job well..

Having RJ on the court is questionable, though..

I didn't like Pop's last playcall, especially to Danny Green, although it was a pretty decent look..

Spurs' players choked down the stretch, they had sufficient enough of a lead to assume they would close the game out..

More importantly, a better effort in the 1st wins the game, easily..

Please change that pic Harlem, my goodness.

[pgardn]

I'm not here to rub salt into wounds, or, to redden any asses. Just wanted to stop in and check some balloon knots.

I'll go back downstairs now.

Chow!

Then all one has to do is look at the Laker bench and the grass looks like emeralds. Thank god I dont root for this team. Metta World... They are going to run the 2nd unit offense thru Metta world idiot says Brown.

Jesus that is a desolate view...

[timtonymanu]

Why do we "know" this? He has just over one hour of NBA floortime.

lol some people on here expect players like CJ and Anderson to be as well developed as Leonard or Manu in their rookie years.

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lol some people on here expect players like CJ and Anderson to be as well developed as Leonard or Manu in their rookie years.

I've seriously never seen a coach that turns on his own draft picks so quickly, and I've never seen a fanbase that just echoes that attitude without any thought.

[pgardn]

Why do we "know" this? He has just over one hour of NBA floortime.

Ok.

I think he is in way over his head. You need more time to see him fail. got it. I watched the kid at Texas. He really should have stayed.

That better?

[pgardn]

lol some people on here expect players like CJ and Anderson to be as well developed as Leonard or Manu in their rookie years.

I thought he should have stayed. J. Brown at Texas completely took over from him. I watched it. You want to give him time, thats what the Toros are for and where he was. I never expected the 29th choice in the draft, a raw freshman to ever be Leonard or Manu. I thought he should have stayed a year more in college like many others who follow Texas. He is a raw basketball athlete. Emphasis on athlete imo.

[ElNono]

I thought he should have stayed. J. Brown at Texas completely took over from him. I watched it. You want to give him time, thats what the Toros are for and where he was.

We don't have a backup PG. Why did we draft him if he can't even be a third string PG in the NBA?

[pgardn]

We don't have a backup PG. Why did we draft him if he can't even be a third string PG in the NBA?

That sir, is an excellent question.

Probably because of his athleticism.

I am not the only one that was shocked having watched him. I watched him basically start out great and then fade and basically lose his status to J. Brown. As a Texas and a Spurs fan I hope I am wrong.

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Ok.

I think he is in way over his head. You need more time to see him fail. got it. I watched the kid at Texas. He really should have stayed.

That better?

Sure, I think every first round draft pick should be given one or two minutes at a time until he fucks up, because "pick 29 is always a gamble", and then when he's got 70 total minutes, he should be given up on and sit on the bench until the end of his rookie contract regardless of the fact that there's only one other point guard on the roster that's healthy at the moment. Sacrificing Gary Neal by trying to turn him into Roger Mason is much better than just trying to play him. God knows the Spurs' philosophy of having young players playing in fear of being pulled at the first mistake has been endlessly successful for the team.

It's really great that you decided what Joseph was on draft night, and don't seem to want him to even get a chance to prove you wrong. Maybe he'll get hit by a bus or something so we never have to find out for sure.

[ElNono]

That sir, is an excellent question.

Probably because of his athleticism.

I am not the only one that was shocked having watched him. I watched him basically start out great and then fade and basically lose his status to J. Brown.

I have no problem shipping him to the Toros when TJ and/or Manu come back. But until then, as horrible as he might be, it's all we have at the backup PG spot.

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And the Toros have been a great place for Spurs' players to develop so that they could contribute to the...

Oh, wait. No, that's wrong. Sorry.

[pgardn]

Sure, I think every first round draft pick should be given one or two minutes at a time until he fucks up, because "pick 29 is always a gamble", and then when he's got 70 total minutes, he should be given up on and sit on the bench until the end of his rookie contract regardless of the fact that there's only one other point guard on the roster that's healthy at the moment. Sacrificing Gary Neal by trying to turn him into Roger Mason is much better than just trying to play him. God knows the Spurs' philosophy of having young players playing in fear of being pulled at the first mistake has been endlessly successful for the team.

It's really great that you decided what Joseph was on draft night, and don't seem to want him to even get a chance to prove you wrong. Maybe he'll get hit by a bus or something so we never have to find out for sure.

He can give me a chance to be wrong while at the Toros. In a close game like tonight, thats how to destroy confidence. A blowout or early in a game let him show you what he has, which we did, and had to sit him.

[jag]

You can only develop so many young players at one time. I don't have a problem with Cory Joseph and James Anderson sitting the bench.

[pgardn]

And the Toros have been a great place for Spurs' players to develop so that they could contribute to the...

Oh, wait. No, that's wrong. Sorry.

Ok smart ass.

Why do we even have the Toros? What is the D-league? What does the D stand for? done?

[pgardn]

Sure, I think every first round draft pick should be given one or two minutes at a time until he fucks up, because "pick 29 is always a gamble", and then when he's got 70 total minutes, he should be given up on and sit on the bench until the end of his rookie contract regardless of the fact that there's only one other point guard on the roster that's healthy at the moment. Sacrificing Gary Neal by trying to turn him into Roger Mason is much better than just trying to play him. God knows the Spurs' philosophy of having young players playing in fear of being pulled at the first mistake has been endlessly successful for the team.

It's really great that you decided what Joseph was on draft night, and don't seem to want him to even get a chance to prove you wrong. Maybe he'll get hit by a bus or something so we never have to find out for sure.

And its really great that YOU can be a critic of pop, but not his draft choices. Especially since you watched Joseph play at Texas.

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Ok smart ass.

Why do we even have the Toros? What is the D-league? What does the D stand for? done?

Obviously you think it stands for "draft". Since nobody the Spurs have sent down there to "develop" has managed to find anything but the "door", I'm unsure why you think it's such a valuable tool for them. I'm pretty glad that there was no D league when Parker was drafted, since he was younger than Joseph and also made mistakes.

[ElNono]

Ok smart ass.

Why do we even have the Toros? What is the D-league? What does the D stand for? done?

He has a point though... as far as the Toros is concerned, and up to this day, basically Dany Green is the only rotation player the Spurs have been able to 'develop', and I would say it's pretty early to say without a doubt he's going to make it in the NBA.

[pgardn]

Obviously you think it stands for "draft". Since nobody the Spurs have sent down there to "develop" has managed to find anything but the "door", I'm unsure why you think it's such a valuable tool for them. I'm pretty glad that there was no D league when Parker was drafted, since he was younger than Joseph and also made mistakes.

Parker had already played as a professional for a couple of years and was as faster than almost anyone in the league. And I never said it was a valuable tool. YOU did. But at least the kid can play against men and not kids.

but nice try.

Why does the NBA have a D league?

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And its really great that YOU can be a critic of pop, but not his draft choices. Especially since you watched Joseph play at Texas.

I'm perfectly happy to criticize the draft choices, but I'd like to, you know, see them play in the pros before doing so.

Again, it's really really great that you came into this argument with your mind already made up, and I know it's really important that you say anything, no matter how illogical, to try to support that opinion because your credibility on a sports message board is at stake.

As for me, I'd like to see young players that the Spurs seemed to like enough to waste a draft pick on actually give them NBA minutes before I pass judgment on the pick itself. I'm still puzzled by why any Spur fan would disagree with that idea.

The Spurs lost the game tonight and Tony Parker got 40 minutes. Not giving Joseph a chance to play through a rough patch doesn't really seem like it was worth it.

I'm watching a replay of the game right now and the Spurs are getting crushed in the first quarter and Joseph hasn't even seen the floor yet.

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Parker had already played as a professional for a couple of years and was as faster than almost anyone in the league. And I never said it was a valuable tool. YOU did. But at least the kid can play against men and not kids.

but nice try.

Why does the NBA have a D league?

um..lol? I don't think it's remotely valuable. You're the one who wanted him there on draft night, and you're desperate to manufacture any excuse to get him there so you can say how smart you are when it comes to UT basketball, I guess.

[pgardn]

He has a point though... as far as the Toros is concerned, and up to this day, basically Dany Green is the only rotation player the Spurs have been able to 'develop', and I would say it's pretty early to say without a doubt he's going to make it in the NBA.

That is the dilemma.

Its put him in NBA games and possibly destroy his confidence or let him play against men and not boys in an inferior league. I personally believe confidence is a huge part of marginal players making the NBA. That my opinion. so the dilemma.

My opinion is "not yet", even though we could use him if he can actually carry out the role.

[pgardn]

um..lol? I don't think it's remotely valuable. You're the one who wanted him there on draft night, and you're desperate to manufacture any excuse to get him there so you can say how smart you are when it comes to UT basketball, I guess.

Dont play word games. You used the phrase valuable tool. And I did not even want him in the draft. Please read my posts or lets not discuss this. I dont like playing little boy games.

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Dont play word games. You used the phrase valuable tool.

And the exact quote was "I'm unsure why you think it's such a valuable tool for them." That was the first time it was used. How is that a word game, exactly?

You've wanted Joseph to go to the D League since he was drafted. Obviously you think it has some value that actual NBA game minutes do not.



And I did not even want him in the draft. Please read my posts or lets not discuss this. I dont like playing little boy games.

Yes, you've made that position very clear. It doesn't really need to be repeated. I read every post you had in the CJ thread from draft night BEFORE I responded to your lunacy. Like I said, it was crystal clear from that point that you didn't like the pick and were ready to put all your Longhorn knowledge on display for everyone, and you're a slave to that position since you still don't want CJ getting minutes even though there's a serious injury problem with the team and he's the only one on the roster with the skillset to help with it.

Please discuss the basketball part of this or don't bother posting. If anyone's playing games it's you, and frankly you suck at it.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I'm noticing more consensus on major Spurs issues amongst the ST forum than ever before.


What is our world coming to

[Cant_Be_Faded]

In fact black and grey spurfan are all pretty much saying the same exact thing all fucking season

[pgardn]

And the exact quote was "I'm unsure why you think it's such a valuable tool for them." That was the first time it was used. How is that a word game, exactly?

You've wanted Joseph to go to the D League since he was drafted. Obviously you think it has some value that actual NBA game minutes do not.




Yes, you've made that position very clear. It doesn't really need to be repeated. I read every post you had in the CJ thread from draft night BEFORE I responded to your lunacy. Like I said, it was crystal clear from that point that you didn't like the pick and were ready to put all your Longhorn knowledge on display for everyone, and you're a slave to that position since you still don't want CJ getting minutes even though there's a serious injury problem with the team and he's the only one on the roster with the skillset to help with it.

Please discuss the basketball part of this or don't bother posting. If anyone's playing games it's you, and frankly you suck at it.

My lunacy? Desperate, slave, are we a little excited? The wimp that questions every Popovich move claims I put MY knowlege on display. Good god.

Have a good night diva.

[relic]

Love the fact that Parker is calling out three point shooters on his team. In the post game interview.

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My lunacy? Desperate, slave, are we a little excited? The wimp that questions every Popovich move claims I put MY knowlege on display. Good god.

Have a good night diva.

Don't know why you bother hanging out on a basketball message board if you won't talk basketball. Yes, you're a slave to your opinions if you stick to them and can't back them up or if you think ~65 minutes is enough time to declare a first round pick a bust just because you declared him a bust six months ago. Yes, you're desperate to be right about that opinion if you don't want Joseph getting minutes when TJ Ford and Manu Ginobili are hurt and Tony Parker's racking up 40 minutes in losses.

lol

[Sean Cagney]

Love the fact that Parker is calling out three point shooters on his team. In the post game interview.

Yes, but you live by that three you will die by it in the end. Glad they are cold now sides in April or May. I still hate the Spurs team that plays little D and relies on threes to win, thats when it got bad IMO. Last year they connected early and often and got off to a fast start, later on naw.

[therealtruth]

Yes, but you live by that three you will die by it in the end. Glad they are cold now sides in April or May. I still hate the Spurs team that plays little D and relies on threes to win, thats when it got bad IMO. Last year they connected early and often and got off to a fast start, later on naw.

It was inevitable. Last year they caught teams by surprise with they're 3pt happy offense. Teams figured it out and realized all they had to do was defend the 3 better to win.