Super Bowl XLVI Game Thread: Giants vs Patriots

[TIMMYtoZO]

This amazing run ends with the Giants as the last team standing. Brady is going to play worse than he did today, and Elite The Eliminator Manning will continue his winning ways. Giants 24 Patriots 20

[DeadlyDynasty]

Giants 34, Patriots 31

[TIMMYtoZO]

Giants 34, Patriots 31

No way Pats score 31 points. Not gonna happen. They barley scored 23 against the Ravens D. Giants D is better.

[DeadlyDynasty]

No way Pats score 31 points. Not gonna happen. They barley scored 23 against the Ravens D. Giants D is better.

On the flipside brah, no way the Giants only score 24 on that Patriots D. They scored 24 on them in Foxboro without Nicks and Bradshaw.

G-men gonna light up the scoreboard imho

[Pelicans78]

I think Giants win 31-17.

[TIMMYtoZO]

On the flipside brah, no way the Giants only score 24 on that Patriots D. They scored 24 on them in Foxboro without Nicks and Bradshaw.

G-men gonna light up the scoreboard imho

:lol I should feel better about the O tomorrow. I have had too much to drink, so forgive me for underestimating this deadly passing attack.

[Spursfan092120]

Pats 32 Giants 24...

[LakerHater]

Both Harbaughs killed by field goals!!!

[Technique]

Eli gonna overtake big bro as the best Manning with this win.

[TE]

Pats 31
Giants 28

[Kirk Nowitzki]

Eli gonna overtake big bro as the best Manning with this win.

I do think the Giants will win, that entire team has Brady Daddy status. But let's be real for a second. If Eli wins, he'll have two Super Bowl wins on teams that were actually built to compete. Peyton will have one Super Bowl and the 115 wins in a decade record which we now know he did all by himself. Only the New York media will believe that to be true.

[Vici]

Can't fucking wait.

Time to put the exclamation point on 2007's Superbowl win. Way too many people consider that win a fluke.

[DJ Mbenga]

we have been due for a blowout for a long time. not sure i see one coming but you never know

[Blake]

Eli gonna overtake big bro as the best Manning with this win.

Rofl knee jerk

[DeadlyDynasty]

Opening line is Patriots (-3):wow

Holy shit i'm swingin for the fences this SB

[DeadlyDynasty]

o/u is 55.5 too...dayum

[Blake]

Opening line is Patriots (-3):wow

Holy shit i'm swingin for the fences this SB

Damn that's tempting to lay a huge chunk on NY to cover.

Funny, if the spread were 2 1/2, I wouldn't even think about touching the game.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Damn that's tempting to lay a huge chunk on NY to cover.

Funny, if the spread were 2 1/2, I wouldn't even think about touching the game.

True.

The line will undoubtedly move (imo) in the next 2 weeks. Giants are more complete, they're clicking on all cylinders, and have basically been playing playoff games since Week 16.

They just had 2 great tests in the best offense in the league followed by arguably the best defense--and won both on the road. Pats secondary is banged up and they let Joe Flacco and his band of stone-hand WR/TEs put up #'s on them.

Giants also get Nicks and Bradshaw, who the Pats didn't see in the first meeting this year. Love the G-Men here--they get to play the underdog card despite being the better team

[Blake]

True.

The line will undoubtedly move (imo) in the next 2 weeks. Giants are more complete, they're clicking on all cylinders, and have basically been playing playoff games since Week 16.

They just had 2 great tests in the best offense in the league followed by arguably the best defense--and won both on the road. Pats secondary is banged up and they let Joe Flacco and his band of stone-hand WR/TEs put up #'s on them.

Giants also get Nicks and Bradshaw, who the Pats didn't see in the first meeting this year. Love the G-Men here--they get to play the underdog card despite being the better team

yah, the Ravens should have beat NE as well.....all of that leads to what looks like a an easy bet. Vegas putting the Pats at -3 makes no sense to me.
It should be the Giants -1, imo.

Easy bets make me uneasy.

[LnGrrrR]

Please please please media, make the Pats the underdogs. Please.

That said, wouldn't have it any other way. It's the New England Patriots playoff revenge tour, with Brady beating two of the four teams he's lost to in the playoffs. Third time's a charm.

[Donut]

41 - 31 Giants. Neither D is any good. Neutral field. Giants keep finding ways to win since that rough patch during the regular season. Patriots lucky to be in the Super Bowl imho.

[dirk4mvp]

TtZ what is your take on Brady vs the Gmens d line.

[monosylab1k]

Patriots lucky to be in the Super Bowl imho.

:lol I like how I see this everywhere.

The Patriots are lucky, but somehow the Giants scoring all their 2nd half points on SF special teams fuckups isn't.

[monosylab1k]

This game will be won by whichever QB has the football in the final two minutes of the 4th quarter.

[Blake]

:lol I like how I see this everywhere.

The Patriots are lucky, but somehow the Giants scoring all their 2nd half points on SF special teams fuckups isn't.

I thought the Ravens were going to finish the Pats off when Woodhead fumbled the kickoff.

Pats are lucky to have a #1 receiver like Wes, imo.

[monosylab1k]

lol it's no surprise the Pats are back in the SB after Wes becomes the 3rd option in the passing game.

[Blake]

lol it's no surprise the Pats are back in the SB after Wes becomes the 3rd option in the passing game.

rofl stats


2011 NFL Receiving Targets Leaders -

2 Wes Welker, WR NE 172

16 Rob Gronkowski, TE NE 124

31 Aaron Hernandez, TE NE 113

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/receiving/sort/receivingTargets/seasontype/2

[monosylab1k]

rofl stats

Playoff Games Targets

Gronkowski 20
Hernandez 17
Welker 15

[Bill_Brasky]

Umm Wes is clearly the third option.


But he's still technically the #1 WR.

[Donut]

I stand by what I said about them being lucky. There's nothing wrong with luck. Every team that's gets this far has a lucky game or two. Its just more than obvious when a team gets outplayed, like the Patriots did, but still win.

[Bill_Brasky]

I stand by what I said about them being lucky. There's nothing wrong with luck. Every team that's gets this far has a lucky game or two. Its just more than obvious when a team gets outplayed, like the Patriots did, but still win.

The Giants lucked too then. A healthy Ted Ginn = no retarded ST fuckups = Niners goin to the 'ship

[Blake]

rofl stats

Playoff Games Targets

Gronkowski 20
Hernandez 17
Welker 15

Brady sucked yesterday.

Maybe he should have gone back to targeting the bread winner.

[Vici]

The Giants lucked too then. A healthy Ted Ginn = no retarded ST fuckups = Niners goin to the 'ship

The the niners were lucky that Terrel Thomas, Will Beatty, Jonathon Goff, Clint Sintim, Marvin Austin, Stacey Andrews, Bruce Johnson, Hixon, etc. were all injured. These are all starters or backups who would have gotten significant playing time. That's not even counting our Special Teams starters/ bad asses who are out.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

rofl stats
lol using regular season stats when mono's talking about the playoffs

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

The the niners were lucky that Terrel Thomas, Will Beatty, Jonathon Goff, Clint Sintim, Marvin Austin, Stacey Andrews, Bruce Johnson, Hixon, etc. were all injured. These are all starters or backups who would have gotten significant playing time. That's not even counting our Special Teams starters/ bad asses who are out.
Please, every team has injuries. The Giants don't have some extraordinary amount of them. Most of the guys you listed were reserves. None of those guys had injuries that led to a backup getting significant PT and committing two key unforced turnovers like Ginn's injury.

The point was that the Giants were bailed out by two turnovers they did nothing to cause. The Patriots were also bailed out by several Baltimore fuck ups they had nothing to do with. Neither team is some unstoppable force. Giants fans are grossly overrating how much of a favorite they are.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Pats are lucky to have a #1 receiver like Wes, imo.
Do #1 receivers usually have less than 60 yards in back to back playoff games?

[Blake]

lol using regular season stats when mono's talking about the playoffs


Brady sucked yesterday.

Maybe he should have gone back to targeting the bread winner.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

So it's automatically Brady's fault when Welker sucks?

[Blake]

Do #1 receivers usually have less than 60 yards in back to back playoff games?

Was Randy Moss injured when he did that in 2007?

[jgome21]

This game will be like the last time they met. Which ever qb that has the ball last will win.

[Blake]

So it's automatically Brady's fault when Welker sucks?

I'm not sure Welker sucked.

Is it Welker's fault that Brady admittedly sucked?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'm not sure Welker sucked.
Welker could toss up a goose egg and you'd still find a way to defend him.


Is it Welker's fault that Brady admittedly sucked?
No, but it's very odd that the Patriots winning their first 2 playoff games since 2007 are games where Welker's touches and looks were greatly reduced.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Was Randy Moss injured when he did that in 2007?
No, but he was also facing double and sometimes triple coverage on every play. Even then he still played like shit and proved he's not a reliable go to option.

[MultiTomDoll]

I like it when mono plays with me!

[jgome21]

So it's automatically Brady's fault when Welker sucks?


Giants did a great job jamming Welker on the los and preventing him from running clean routes, but Welker had a huge role in that BenJarvus Green-Ellis touchdown run. Brady checked out of the initial play into a power in run when he saw the Ravens stack up into the box. Wes faked an inside crossing route which forced Ed Reed to hesitate, then allowed him to cut upfield to throw a block on the safety to put Green-Ellis in the end zone. He may not had a great night receiving wise, but he is a complete receiving. One of the league's best.

[jjktkk]

Its hard to pick against the Giants, with that passrush and Eli playing at a MVP level since Dec. Didn't see the reg. season game, and was wondering how the Giants handled the Pats 2TE O, for those who watched the game.

[Vici]

Please, every team has injuries. The Giants don't have some extraordinary amount of them. Most of the guys you listed were reserves. None of those guys had injuries that led to a backup getting significant PT and committing two key unforced turnovers like Ginn's injury.

The point was that the Giants were bailed out by two turnovers they did nothing to cause. The Patriots were also bailed out by several Baltimore fuck ups they had nothing to do with. Neither team is some unstoppable force. Giants fans are grossly overrating how much of a favorite they are.

Goff is the starting mlb, sintim the starting slb, beatty is the starting LT, Terrel Thomas is the #1 cb. Bruce johnspn had beaten ross as the nickel back. ... Hixon is the punt and kick returner. Austin was the third DT... so yeah, those are major injuries.

The Giants absolutely caused the last fumble. Williams' hand caused the fumble... how is that even a question?

This is exactly why I rarely post in here.

[Blake]

Welker could toss up a goose egg and you'd still find a way to defend him.

I guess you won't really know until he does.



No, but it's very odd that the Patriots winning their first 2 playoff games since 2007 are games where Welker's touches and looks were greatly reduced.

The game was won by the NE defense and lost by the Ravens O/special teams.

These things are evident, imo.

[TIMMYtoZO]

Goff is the starting mlb, sintim the starting slb, beatty is the starting LT, Terrel Thomas is the #1 cb. Bruce johnspn had beaten ross as the nickel back. ... Hixon is the punt and kick returner. Austin was the third DT... so yeah, those are major injuries. When Austin comes back next year, he will have a great shot to be a starter. This kid is really really good man. His attitude is why he was a 2nd round pick. Of course, having all of the others back will make this team even stronger along with another strong draft class.

[TIMMYtoZO]

Its hard to pick against the Giants, with that passrush and Eli playing at a MVP level since Dec. Didn't see the reg. season game, and was wondering how the Giants handled the Pats 2TE O, for those who watched the game.

The giants d handled it well enough. Thing is nicks/bradshaw didnt play in that game.

[Vici]

When Austin comes back next year, he will have a great shot to be a starter. This kid is really really good man. His attitude is why he was a 2nd round pick. Of course, having all of the others back will make this team even stronger along with another strong draft class.

The funny thing is he really didn't do anything that wrong. He didn't steal or hurt anyone. He worked hard and it showed during the combine. Trust me, I was more excited about him heading into the year than I was Prince. I don't know if you were paying attention but Goff was turning into a beast before the injury. If he stays healthy he can be really really good as well. I've given up on Sintim ever being healthy :(


My point earlier to DOK is that every team has good and bad luck. The Giants lost way too many starters to IR so I'm not buying they are getting lucky bullshit. They have had more penalties against them than any other team in the playoffs. (Really surprised they never called offsides on the 49ers D. They were constantly lined up on the Giants' side of the ball) They have had some of the most ridiculous calls go against them in the Playoffs and they are still in the SB. Any bitching about luck is just bitching because your team isn't in the SB.

[Vici]

Its hard to pick against the Giants, with that passrush and Eli playing at a MVP level since Dec. Didn't see the reg. season game, and was wondering how the Giants handled the Pats 2TE O, for those who watched the game.

The Giants are going to do a lot of chipping on the TEs. You will likely see a lack of a pass rush in the first half while the DEs get a good hit on the TE and play the passing lanes. They usually release the Kraken in the second half once the O is out of sync.

[TIMMYtoZO]

The funny thing is he really didn't do anything that wrong. He didn't steal or hurt anyone. He worked hard and it showed during the combine. Trust me, I was more excited about him heading into the year than I was Prince. I don't know if you were paying attention but Goff was turning into a beast before the injury. If he stays healthy he can be really really good as well. I've given up on Sintim ever being healthy :(


My point earlier to DOK is that every team has good and bad luck. The Giants lost way too many starters to IR so I'm not buying they are getting lucky bullshit. They have had more penalties against them than any other team in the playoffs. (Really surprised they never called offsides on the 49ers D. They were constantly lined up on the Giants' side of the ball) They have had some of the most ridiculous calls go against them in the Playoffs and they are still in the SB. Any bitching about luck is just bitching because your team isn't in the SB.

I did notice Goff turning a corner. Him getting hurt sucked as did losing Thomas. Both were on the rise. I really hope Terrel resigns on the cheap. I hope Smith returns at full strength. Time to cut ties with Sintim. He is fragile.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I guess you won't really know until he does.
The fact you're ignoring how mediocre Welker has been in the playoffs demonstrates your clear bias.





The game was won
Yes it was. Welker being the 3rd receiving option = win.

[lefty]

I just hope Gronk will be 100 percent healthy

[Blake]

The fact you're ignoring how mediocre Welker has been in the playoffs demonstrates your clear bias.

Lol mediocre.


Yes it was. Welker being the 3rd receiving option = win.

Just like when Vince is on the field. :tu

Par for the course the ol usual lol

[Bill_Brasky]

I just hope Gronk will be 100 percent healthy

This will have to happen, luckily he gets 2 weeks.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

It looked like a sprained ankle he was walking on fine a few minutes after. I'm sure he'll be 100%.

[monosylab1k]

It looked like a sprained ankle he was walking on fine a few minutes after. I'm sure he'll be 100%.

Dunno, usually you can walk/play on a sprained ankle right after it happens. It isn't until after it stiffens up that you know the full extent of how bad the injury is.

As it is, I still expect Gronk to play. He's too much of a badass.

[Kirk Nowitzki]

Do #1 receivers usually have less than 60 yards in back to back playoff games?

I would say probably Marvin Harrison but then remembered he probably didn't play in enough back to back playoff games to make a meaningful contribution to that statistic.

[MultiTomDoll]

Dunno, usually you can walk/play on a sprained ankle right after it happens. It isn't until after it stiffens up that you know the full extent of how bad the injury is.

As it is, I still expect Gronk to play. He's too much of a badass.

:madrun:madrun why don't you play with me anymore!! :madrun:madrun

[monosylab1k]

:madrun:madrun why don't you play with me anymore!! :madrun:madrun

:lmao

[stretch]

Giants 24
Patriots 23

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I would say probably Marvin Harrison but then remembered he probably didn't play in enough back to back playoff games to make a meaningful contribution to that statistic.
:tu Marvin Harrison is a great comparison to Welker who folds at crucial moments and gets manhandled by physical corners.

[Blake]

:tu Marvin Harrison is a great comparison to Welker who folds at crucial moments and gets manhandled by physical corners.

Rofl 11 rec 100+ yards in the last SuperBowl.

Wes winning the Super Bowl MVP this year will be epic.

[monosylab1k]

Rofl 11 rec 100+ yards in the last SuperBowl.

Wes winning the Super Bowl MVP this year will be epic.

tbh i'd love nothing more than to be wrong bout dat Wes but we all know it won't happen. Brady or Gronk will win SBMVP.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Are you still a Gary Guyton fan :lol

[monosylab1k]

crofl whoops

[monosylab1k]

tbh i forgot he was even on the team. even more shocked that he had like 47 tackles this season. i literally have not remembered seeing him on the field once this year.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I never thought his snaps would be reduced so much. Not as bad as me thinking Cunningham :lmao would be good this year. I can't remember the last time I saw him on the field.

[Blake]

tbh i'd love nothing more than to be wrong bout dat Wes but we all know it won't happen. Brady or Gronk will win SBMVP.

Since the Pats rbs suck, if they win, the only 4 choices will be Tom, wes, gronk or aaron.

Wes is due for a big night.

I haven't checked Vegas odds yet, but I'd put the odds of Wes winning it at about 5-1.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

The way the Giants' secondary is playing the Pats RBs better not suck. Logan Mankins better not get jizzed on by Justin Tuck again either.

Idk what his exact injury is but Kyle Arrington needs to be healthy for this game as well. If McCourty, Arrington or Molden get injured at all during the game it means Julian Edelman is covering Nicks, Cruz, or Manningham. That's a disaster waiting to happen.

[Blake]

Pats rbs sucking against the broncos = blowout win

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Pats had 146 rushing yards against Denver averaging nearly 5 yards a carry :wtf

[Blake]

Pats had 146 rushing yards against Denver averaging nearly 5 yards a carry :wtf

Is hernandez a running back

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

He played running back against Denver

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Idk what your point is....I wasn't trying to dispute the fact that New England's running backs suck. My point was that they'll need some semblance of a running game (even if it's with Hernandez) against the Giants.

[Blake]

He played running back against Denver

That didn't answer the question

[Jacob1983]

Do you consider the Super Bowl the weakest of sports championship games/series? I think it is because it's only one game and it's more of an event than a championship game. I know that football nuthuggers don't like it when people say that stuff but it's true. The NFL is the American Idol of sports.

[Blake]

The hype is always bigger than the game itself, but no.

[Blake]

The hype is always bigger than the game itself, but no.

[stretch]

Do you consider the Super Bowl the weakest of sports championship games/series? I think it is because it's only one game and it's more of an event than a championship game. I know that football nuthuggers don't like it when people say that stuff but it's true. The NFL is the American Idol of sports.

In terms of most impactful, I'd say it is, because 1. its football and 2. its one game, winner take all.

In terms of being the best way to determine who truly is the best team, no.

[stretch]

Key to the game:

If Eli wears a Citizen Eco watch, which is unstoppable like he is, the Giants win.

[leemajors]

In terms of most impactful, I'd say it is, because 1. its football and 2. its one game, winner take all.

In terms of being the best way to determine who truly is the best team, no.

I think all the media hype surrounding it, the week of festivities, and all the talk about commericals, and the fact that the damn thing takes 4-5 hours to actually finish overshadows the game itself a lot of the time. Then again the boys haven't sniffed it in 15 years so I am probably influenced a great bit by that fact.

[TIMMYtoZO]

In exactly 6 days from this exact time, the Giants will be champions. This will be the start of a dynasty. :toast

[LnGrrrR]

Fuck, Sunday is too far away.

[NewcastleKEG]

In terms of most impactful, I'd say it is, because 1. its football and 2. its one game, winner take all.

In terms of being the best way to determine who truly is the best team, no.
No way, you think so?

This Super Bowl makes a very strong argument for keeping the BCS in college football

[TIMMYtoZO]

No way, you think so?

This Super Bowl makes a very strong argument for keeping the BCS in college football

Only because your 49ers lost to my Giants. If the opposite has occurred, you would be calling this Super Bowl epic. It has been a week and a half and you are still fuming with anger. :lol

[NewcastleKEG]

Only because your 49ers lost to my Giants. If the opposite has occurred, you would be calling this Super Bowl epic. It has been a week and a half and you are still fuming with anger. :lol
Duh, because the superior TEAM would be in the game. How can Eli win when he can't even get past the 50 yard line

[DeadlyDynasty]

Duh, because the superior TEAM would be in the game. How can Eli win when he can't even get past the 50 yard line

Once again your hatred and bitterness of the Giants clouds your judgment and makes you look foolish:lol

Giants lead in:

-First downs
-Total yards
-3rd down conversions: Giants: 7-21, 49ers: 0-12:lmao
-Time of possession: Giants, 40 to 28
-Turnover battle
-Scoreboard: 20-17 Giants

:lol saying the Giants can't cross the 50 when the 49ers lone Redzone possession came with 6 minutes left in the game (Giants had 4):lol

:lol NewcastleKEG
:lol continually getting deuced on
:lol mad

[NewcastleKEG]

Alex Smith = 97.6 Passer Rating, 7.5 Y/C
Eli Manning = 82.3 Passer Rating, 5.4 Y/C

That's with 2 gifts. Eli probably doesn't break a 65.0 Passer Rating without Kyle

[DeadlyDynasty]

Alex Smith = 97.6 Passer Rating, 7.5 Y/C
Eli Manning = 82.3 Passer Rating, 5.4 Y/C

That's with 2 gifts. Eli probably doesn't break a 65.0 Passer Rating without Kyle

Thanks for the arbitrary stats:lol I gave you ones that matter, but if you wanna go that route:

Eli: 316 yards, 55% passing, 2 tds, 0 ints, 17 passing 1st downs

Alex: 196 yards, 46% passing(:lol), 2 tds, 0 ints, 5 passing 1st downs


:lol

[NewcastleKEG]

Thanks for the arbitrary stats:lol I gave you ones that matter, but if you wanna go that route:

Eli: 316 yards, 55% passing, 2 tds, 0 ints, 17 passing 1st downs

Alex: 196 yards, 46% passing(:lol), 2 tds, 0 ints, 5 passing 1st downs


:lol
Kyle Williams handed you 10 points in the 2nd Half....your only points. Without Kyle, you don't score again.

How could you when Eli could not sustain a single drive in the game for a score, unlike Alex did twice.

And what about the Bradshaw fumble which would have ended the game at the 20 with only 2 minutes remaining?

:lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

The Giants beat you in every statistical category except penalties. So you had HFA and the edge and penalties, yet still got blown out in every other category:lol

Let me guess your next response:

"B-b-but if-if if" Wash. Rinse. Repeat

The better team won, so go back to making death threats on Kyle Williams' twitter account:lol

[NewcastleKEG]

The Giants beat you in every statistical category except penalties. So you had HFA and the edge and penalties, yet still got blown out in every other category:lol

Let me guess your next response:

"B-b-but if-if if" Wash. Rinse. Repeat

The better team won, so go back to making death threats on Kyle Williams' twitter account:lol
Niners played the kind of the game that won them 14 games this year. If not for Kyle Williams and his 3 fumbles, Niners win by double digits. History already proved they were the superior team weeks earlier.

Giants better win Sunday because they aren't sniffing the Super Bowl once the Niners get rid of their 3-fumble backup Punt Returner. Yup that's what it took the Giants to win in overtime

[DeadlyDynasty]

History already proved they were the superior team weeks earlier.

That's what the Packers said too:lol

Just stop.

[NewcastleKEG]

That's what the Packers said too:lol

Just stop.
You're a 9-7 team that got 3 fumbles & a blowshit blown call to win in overtime. Why are you surprised no one respects you? You got the Niners respect when they ass fucked you weeks earlier without Gore

:lol at knowing Harbaugh punked your shit team twice with the least talented team he'll have.

Giants never could stop Gore or run on our defense. Smith almost 100 Passer Rating....ouch

[DeadlyDynasty]

ouch

says the guy still sobbing 10 days later:lol

Speaking of ouch:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/30/article-2093800-1169E274000005DC-440_634x511.jpg

[NewcastleKEG]

No one will remember who won the game sunday 5,10 years from now like they will remember Kyle Williams. Think about....no one remembers who won after THE DRIVE, THE FUMBLE, or THE TUCK.

Without your best player Kyle Williams, you aren't even playing so don't be mad he's stealing your thunder. Giants fucked with Kyle not returning punts anymore for Niners :lol

Giants = Forever 2nd rate franchise

[DeadlyDynasty]

No one will remember who won the game sunday 5,10 years from now

I sure remember the 1990 NFC Championship game:lol

Try again:lol

[NewcastleKEG]

I sure remember the 1990 NFC Championship game:lol

Try again:lol
Let me put it this way.....no one remembers the Giants were one of the teams that defeated the Bills in the Super Bowl. Because you got there on bullshit, just like this Super Bowl.

Americans want THE BEST. Not a team winning based on ref blunders & some 22 year old fumbling 3 times

[NewcastleKEG]

Giants will always be a 2nd class franchise


Niners
Cowboys
Packers

all superior & that's only the NFC. You could argue Redskins as well. LOL @ 3rd best in your own division

[LnGrrrR]

I'm pretty sure the Giants win over the Bills might be the MOST memorable game the Bills lost. Can you guess why?

[NewcastleKEG]

I'm pretty sure the Giants win over the Bills might be the MOST memorable game the Bills lost. Can you guess why?
Cause the 2nd class Giants got yet another break.

My point was people remember the chokers, not the teams that benefited. No one is gonna remember who won this 2nd rate ''Championship'' game.

Atleast if the Pats win, they have an argument. Giants were already exposed twice

[jjktkk]

Cause the 2nd class Giants got yet another break.

My point was people remember the chokers, not the teams that benefited. No one is gonna remember who won this 2nd rate ''Championship'' game.

Atleast if the Pats win, they have an argument. Giants were already exposed twice

Wow, DD warned me about you on the NFL Forum, but I had to see to believe. As a lifelong Cowboy fan, I can't stand the F***ing Giants, especially Eli and Jacobs, but the Giants have proven they are legit, beating the defending champs and the 49ers, both on the road. Whining about your boy Williams st blunders is understandable, but turnerovers happen and good teams know how to take advantange of opponents mistakes. Lol calling the Giants a 2nd rate team and the SB a 2nd rate championship. Man up dude and give props where props are due.

[NewcastleKEG]

Wow, DD warned me about you on the NFL Forum, but I had to see to believe. As a lifelong Cowboy fan, I can't stand the F***ing Giants, especially Eli and Jacobs, but the Giants have proven they are legit, beating the defending champs and the 49ers, both on the road. Whining about your boy Williams st blunders is understandable, but turnerovers happen and good teams know how to take advantange of opponents mistakes. Lol calling the Giants a 2nd rate team and the SB a 2nd rate championship. Man up dude and give props where props are due.
Turnovers happen?

If Giants returner fumbled 3 times the Niners would have won the game by 30 points. We already beat their heads in a month earlier....we were on pace to punk them again when Kyle Williams started throwing the game with his 3 fumbles

Ask yourself this. Who was the player of the game for the Giants? Because without Williams, they don't score a single point in the 2nd Half

[jjktkk]

Turnovers happen?

If Giants returner fumbled 3 times the Niners would have won the game by 30 points. We already beat their heads in a month earlier....we were on pace to punk them again when Kyle Williams started throwing the game with his 3 fumbles

Ask yourself this. Who was the player of the game for the Giants? Because without Williams, they don't score a single point in the 2nd Half

I understand your frustration, but turnovers are apart of the game. As far as who I think was the player of the game, I'd say Devin Thomas.

[NewcastleKEG]

I understand your frustration, but turnovers are apart of the game. As far as who I think was the player of the game, I'd say Devin Thomas.
I see what you're saying

Just very hard to see your team out play someone AGAIN and be well on there way to a Championship just to see a 3rd string brain dead idiot single handily do anything/everything possible to blow the game.

What disgusts me most is the media. If Kyle Williams pulled his hamstring before the game, the Niners win by 10+ points. So to see the media slurping all over the Giants (who got punked twice) is too difficult to take.

It just blows my mind how superior the Niners were than the Giants. It took 3 fkn fumbles & a blown call in the final 2 minutes to allow them to ''win''

[TIMMYtoZO]

Turnovers happen?

If Giants returner fumbled 3 times the Niners would have won the game by 30 points. We already beat their heads in a month earlier....we were on pace to punk them again when Kyle Williams started throwing the game with his 3 fumbles

Ask yourself this. Who was the player of the game for the Giants? Because without Williams, they don't score a single point in the 2nd Half

:lol Devin Thomas and the Giants D were the players of the game. Tell me how much this loss is getting to you. Let it all out.

[TIMMYtoZO]

I see what you're saying

Just very hard to see your team out play someone AGAIN and be well on there way to a Championship just to see a 3rd string brain dead idiot single handily do anything/everything possible to blow the game.

What disgusts me most is the media. If Kyle Williams pulled his hamstring before the game, the Niners win by 10+ points. So to see the media slurping all over the Giants (who got punked twice) is too difficult to take.

It just blows my mind how superior the Niners were than the Giants. It took 3 fkn fumbles & a blown call in the final 2 minutes to allow them to ''win''

:lmao

[NewcastleKEG]

:lol Devin Thomas and the Giants D were the players of the game. Tell me how much this loss is getting to you. Let it all out.
Niners were running the football at will & Alex Smith almost had a 100 Passer Rating.

The defense? :lol

[TIMMYtoZO]

Niners were running the football at will & Alex Smith almost had a 100 Passer Rating.

The defense? :lol

0/12 on 3rd down for the 49ers. And Alex Smith didnt do shit outside of 2 plays.

[NewcastleKEG]

0/12 on 3rd down for the 49ers. And Alex Smith didnt do shit outside of 2 plays.
How many 3rd down conversions did the Giants have in the 2nd Half. . . .

[Vici]

It's been a while since I've seen someone so butthurt over a loss.

[Vici]

Is this you TimmytoZo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txWFDMjGQ2c&feature=g-all-u&context=G2b76d91FAAAAAAAAAAA

[dbreiden83080]

It just blows my mind how superior the Niners were than the Giants. It took 3 fkn fumbles & a blown call in the final 2 minutes to allow them to ''win''

Superior where? Both D's played great, throw the reg season D out the window the Giant Pass Rush got it together in the playoffs.

QB-Edge- Giants by a mile
WR-All Giants
Running Game-Niners
Special Teams-Niners

Sounds pretty even to me... Your QB still is mediocre. Not winning a SB with that guy..

[NewcastleKEG]

Why can't we win a SB with Alex Smith when he outplayed Eli. Haven't you seen the Passer Rating?

Alex Smith = 97.6 Passer Rating, 7.5 Y/C
Eli Manning = 82.3 Passer Rating, 5.4 Y/C


Without the two fumbles, Eli finishes under 75%. If not worse

[NewcastleKEG]

Alex Smith 2011 Playoff Statistics

247 Passing Yards/Game
35 Rushing Yards/Game
6 TD's - 0 INT's
101 QB Rating


That's as good as you can ask for the QB position. Kyle Williams doesn't fumble 3 times = 49ers blow out the Giants by 10+ points. FACT

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Wow, you seriously think Alex Smith played well :lol

[leemajors]

Kyle Williams fumbled three times and the Niners lost - FACT. It happened. Sop up that gooch son.

[dbreiden83080]

Why can't we win a SB with Alex Smith when he outplayed Eli. Haven't you seen the Passer Rating?

Alex Smith = 97.6 Passer Rating, 7.5 Y/C
Eli Manning = 82.3 Passer Rating, 5.4 Y/C


Without the two fumbles, Eli finishes under 75%. If not worse

Outplayed ELI :lol

Your coach had Smith on a leash all season and game long.. If he was under the pressure Eli was under and had the same green light to throw he would have thrown 5 INT's that day.. Eli got hit like 40 times in that game and had no turnovers

[lefty]

So there is an official NFL SB party tomorrow in Montreal

The Philly Eagles cheerleaders will be there, so I went to the Eagles' website to see what they look like, and damn they are fugly :lol

Nice bodies (duh), but damn they are fugly


I'm not going to that shit

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

From what I can tell the Cowboys are the only NFL team with hot cheerleaders, most NFL teams have some pretty gross cheerleaders. The Cardinals have this black cheerleader who's in her 30s and looks like a recovering meth head.

[NewcastleKEG]

Wow, you seriously think Alex Smith played well :lol
If the Giants had Kyle Williams then Alex would have finished with 4 TD passes. And a monster passer rating

Since Eli got gifts, imagine if Smith got the same benefits

[NewcastleKEG]

Outplayed ELI :lol

Your coach had Smith on a leash all season and game long.. If he was under the pressure Eli was under and had the same green light to throw he would have thrown 5 INT's that day.. Eli got hit like 40 times in that game and had no turnovers
But but but all I keep hearing in the media is how great Giants defensive line is

Smith did get pressured but he decided to use his feet and run for over 40 yards

[NewcastleKEG]

How can Alex Smith win when he can't even get past the 30 or get a first down out of 20?
Can't get past the 30?

- Smith threw 2 TD's. As in he drove the team down the field unlike Eli
- Eli had 0 3rd down conversations in the 2nd Half
- Eli was unable to cross the 50 yard line in the 2nd Half unless Williams handed them the ball inside the 30

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

This is like when you said the difference between Mike Miller and Kyle Korver is why Chicago lost to Miami :lol

[lefty]

From what I can tell the Cowboys are the only NFL team with hot cheerleaders, most NFL teams have some pretty gross cheerleaders. The Cardinals have this black cheerleader who's in her 30s and looks like a recovering meth head.
:lol

Yeah I agree, the Cowboys cheerleaders are the only hot ones

[NewcastleKEG]

Well it's sadly obvious many of you did not watch the game

Your just regurgitating the same bullshit the NorthEast media has been for the past 2 weeks

- Giants shut out in the 2nd Half
- Giants 0 - 3rd down conversations in the 2nd Half
- Giants = Lose by 10+ without Kyle Williams



So no I'm not surprised no one is really talking about this Super Bowl. The Championship was already ''won'' by Kyle Williams

[NewcastleKEG]

This is like when you said the difference between Mike Miller and Kyle Korver is why Chicago lost to Miami :lol
In the series


Mike Miller:
9/19: 47%, 21 PTS, 25 TRB, 3 APG, 2 SPG

Kyle Korver:
7/22: 31%, 19 PTS, 6 TRB, 2 APG, 1 SPG


So in a series where almost every game came down to one single possesion/shot.... Miller wouldn't have made the difference?

Once again. If you don't watch the games, don't post. Turn off ESPN & Skip Bayles already

[LakerHater]

- Giants 0 - 3rd down conversations in the 2nd Half

... not sure if serious...

[TIMMYtoZO]

- Giants 0 - 3rd down conversations in the 2nd Half


:lol Just an inaccurate post. You do realize the td the Giants scored to put them up 17-14 was on a 3rd down and 15, right? It was from Elite Manning to Mario Manningham.

[TIMMYtoZO]

In the series


Mike Miller:
9/19: 47%, 21 PTS, 25 TRB, 3 APG, 2 SPG

Kyle Korver:
7/22: 31%, 19 PTS, 6 TRB, 2 APG, 1 SPG


So in a series where almost every game came down to one single possesion/shot.... Miller wouldn't have made the difference?

Once again. If you don't watch the games, don't post. Turn off ESPN & Skip Bayles already

:lmao You are still bitter over last May. Boozer pussying out and lack of a scoring sg(Rip won't change this) lost you that series.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

D-Rose being a choking cuckold who disappeared in the 4th quarter once Lebron switched onto him was also a big reason.

Kyle Korver missing a few shots was pretty insignificant :lmao

[NewcastleKEG]

So the 29 yard pass completion on 3rd & 8 to end regulation by Alex Smith didn't count?

[NewcastleKEG]

D-Rose being a choking cuckold who disappeared in the 4th quarter once Lebron switched onto him was also a big reason.

Kyle Korver missing a few shots was pretty insignificant :lmao
You do realize Bogans wasn't in the game late....Korver was. Guess who was taking shots late in the 4th Quarter...Korver


Again. If you didn't watch the games STFU already

[NewcastleKEG]

:lmao You are still bitter over last May. Boozer pussying out and lack of a scoring sg(Rip won't change this) lost you that series.
Ahhhhh

Korver was the scoring SG and he stunk....which was my point, proven accurate yet again

Again. If you didn't watch the series. STFU already

[DeadlyDynasty]

Stop posting.

[NewcastleKEG]

Stop posting.
hahah NO

[DeadlyDynasty]

hahah NO

All joking aside KEG, are you self-sufficient in real life?

[TIMMYtoZO]

Is this you TimmytoZo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txWFDMjGQ2c&feature=g-all-u&context=G2b76d91FAAAAAAAAAAA


:lol I wish,bro. I must say that I loved the video. It got me all fired up. The fact that the Giants are going to be superbowl champions in less than 24 hours from now is amazing. All year, everyone counted our boys out, Vici. Tomorrow, the Giants and their amazing fans will have the last laugh.

[TIMMYtoZO]

Ahhhhh

Korver was the scoring SG and he stunk....which was my point, proven accurate yet again

Again. If you didn't watch the series. STFU already

:lol What about Lebron shutting down Rose? What about Boozer fading away? Korver can only shoot threes. He can't create his own shot. Bulls need a sg who can create his own shot.

[dbreiden83080]

- Manning also threw 2 TD's
- Smith had 0 3rd down conversions the entire game
- lol, 3rd down conversations

boom, headshot.

Does Eli actually have to win this SB for people to call him a great player? The guy has thrown for over 4,000 yards 3 straight years has won a ring and may win a 2nd. Eli is a great QB..

[NewcastleKEG]

Does Eli actually have to win this SB for people to call him a great player? The guy has thrown for over 4,000 yards 3 straight years has won a ring and may win a 2nd. Eli is a great QB..
No one denies he's a great player but putting him ahead of Peyton just by winning tomorrow, I disagree with

[DeadlyDynasty]

Any Final Predictions?

Last time these two played it was scoreless at the half--doubt we'll see that again.

Final prediction: Giants 30, Patriots 27

[IronMexican]

It wasn't scoreless at the half. I recall it being 7-3 for a long time.

[DeadlyDynasty]

yeah, it was

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011110609/2011/REG9/giants@patriots#menu=highlights&tab=recap

[BlackSwordsMan]

why patriots cut dat yun guy before the superbowl? :depressed

[resistanze]

34-30 Giants.

[LnGrrrR]

I predict I will be drunk by the end of the game.

[Mugen]

28-24 Giants

[Bill_Brasky]

Damn everyone sold on the Giants...

I want the Pats but I know better than to pick against Eli right now... I will be surprised if they lose.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

lol the dumb spooks on first take Rob Parker and Kordell Stewart repeatedly saying, "The Giants are the ":crymotivated underdogs:cry" in in this game like it's 2007. The Giants are at this point the favorites.

[Bill_Brasky]

lol the dumb spooks on first take Rob Parker and Kordell Stewart repeatedly saying, "The Giants are the ":crymotivated underdogs:cry" in in this game like it's 2007. The Giants are at this point the favorites.

Tbh it was fucking hilarious watching how butthurt Kordell was over the Tebow situation being that he was basically the exact same fucking player. I guarantee if Tebow were black Kordell would be all on his nuts like a spook on a bucket of some KFC.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

now there's something on ESPN about some white Giants D-lineman who doesn't have a dad.

Half the black players on either team grew up without their dad, but a white kid who did it is something really special :lmao

[MultiTomDoll]

me and mono are having a superbowl party if anybody wants to stop by :)

[mudyez]

me and mono are having a superbowl party if anybody wants to stop by :)

ok, any flights from germany to NE in the next few hours?

[Bill_Brasky]

:lmao You are still bitter over last May. Boozer pussying out and lack of a scoring sg(Rip won't change this) lost you that series.

Tbh he sounds like you did when the Phillies lost.

[NewcastleKEG]

Just woke up

Anything on tv today?

[Magua]

Just woke up

Anything on tv today?

Someone's still salty:lol

[lefty]

Giants have 9 sacks in the playoffs so far

Not a good sign for NE

Let's hope Brady gets some protection this thime

[MavDynasty]

:lmao remember when Kelly clarkson was hot?

Lol fat

[lefty]

:lmao remember when Kelly clarkson was hot?

Lol fat
Well if there was ever a time for the Apocalypse, now would be a lovely time.

[lefty]

Defer ?

[lefty]

Safety :lmao

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

Safety :lmao

[MavDynasty]

:rollin

[LnGrrrR]

What bs :lol

How many times does that get called? 1 out of 1000?

[lefty]

12 men :lol

[DAF86]

lol Belichick

[lefty]

Congrats to the NYG

Good game

[resistanze]

Lmao

[lefty]

Those commercials are baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

[DAF86]

I don't know what to root for on this drive. I want the Pats to lose but I want a competitive game.

[Libri]

Bud Light Platinum lol

[Libri]

First time I've seen that Battleship preview.

[mudyez]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaLRbNKGMe0

[LnGrrrR]

Fuck you JPP :lol

[LnGrrrR]

These refs are shitty. Holding on that call?

[lefty]

I dont think NE can win without a healthy Gronk

[weebo]

giants punter making an early bid for mvp

[DAF86]

Pats with a chance to go ahead before halftime, unbelievable.

[LnGrrrR]

giants punter making an early bid for mvp

No shit. My prediction of getting really drunk is holding out right now though.

[lefty]

Gronk is alive

[DAF86]

Eli will be behind the next time he gets the ball.

[lefty]

Fuck you Woodhead

Assshit

[lefty]

I apologize to Woodhead

[lefty]

A lead and the ball to start the 2nd half


Sweet

[manufan10]

Crazy.. last time the Giants vs Pats played in the SuperBowl the Pats had a 10-9 lead at halftime.

[DAF86]

If the Pats score a TD in this next series, they'll win easily.

[lefty]

Crazy.. last time the Giants vs Pats played in the SuperBowl the Pats had a 10-9 lead at halftime.
:(

[LnGrrrR]

I apologize to Woodhead

:lmao

[lefty]

Crazy.. last time the Giants vs Pats played in the SuperBowl the Pats had a 10-9 lead at halftime.
7-3

I think you mean NYG-Broncos

[lefty]

yay an old song

[manufan10]

7-3

I think you mean NYG-Broncos

I guess I should have fact checked that.. :lol

[lefty]

Madonna almsot fell :lmao


LMFAO :lmao



FAIL :lmao

[redzero]

Please, stage collapse. That's all I ask for.

[Chachachango]

Did i just smoke a joint or what im watching is real?

[lefty]

if there was ever a time for the Apocalypse, now would be a lovely time.

[MavDynasty]

This is gay as fuck. I know she is way past my time but how did anyone ever like this shit?

And nicki minaj is fucking terrible too

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Who's the fat baboon on the stage right now? Cee-lo green?

[lefty]

Looks like a short commercial for the new Madonna's worst songs album


Buy it on iTunes

[MavDynasty]

I think it's Cee lo

[007nites]

Who's the fat baboon on the stage right now? Cee-lo green?

lmfao

[manufan10]

:depressed

This halftime show sucks... :(

[Chachachango]

Crossing fingers to see someone fall on stage/

[manufan10]

Cee lo looks like a black smurf.. :lol

[lefty]

Artest !

[lefty]

WOrld peace


I thought it was the end of the World

[mudyez]

a year ago, there would have been "ron artest" written on the ground at the end of the sb-halftime-show

[tlongII]

Good performance by Madonna tbh.

[manufan10]

Artest !

:lol

[lefty]

billmaher Bill Maher
Love Betty White, but its enough now

[lefty]

Now lets see how the Pats will lose the game



:pctoss

[lefty]

OnionSports Onion Sports Network
NFL: "Madonna's message of 'world peace' does not reflect the views of the National Football League"

[lefty]

Ocho ?


:lmao

[Pistons < Spurs]

I don't think it was wonderful, and I'm not really a fan of Madonna, but that was the best half time show I've seen in yearssssssss.

Madonna may not be current. Alot of you youngsters may not have grown up with her music, but here songs are eternal. You know the tune and the lyrics whether or not you actually like the songs.

She's old as hell and could barely move out there, but for her age she did pretty good.

I absolutely hated the Tom Petty and Bruce Springsteen shows. Zero entertainment value, and the songs themselves sucked. The Who, Black eyed peas, Rolling Stones, Paul Mcartney.... they were all garbage.

Prince was probably the last decent show. And even that was just so-so.

The really need to just scrap the half time performances all together but tongihts show was at least enjoyable.

[DAF86]

That's game.

[lefty]

Fuck








Yeah

[DJ Mbenga]

Coughlin back to earth. His defense is playing like garbage

[BRHornet45]

ball game. the Giants luck and Cinderella story is coming to an end. pure luck is the only reason they are in this game to begin with.

[BRHornet45]

Coughlin back to earth. His defense is playing like garbage

son why you sorry to me?

Hope Solo > Alex Morgan

[lefty]

Pease dont choke Pats


Im scared

[lefty]

Giants doin work













Arrrrrrrrrrrrgh

[lefty]

Damn

[lefty]

Ouch

[DJ Mbenga]

son why you sorry to me?

Hope Solo > Alex Morgan

I'll take future over past prime. Solo is Duncan Morgan is Durant.
piere Paul and now nicks. Injuries pats mvp

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

With JPP injured idk who's knob Collinsworth is gonna slob for the rest of the game

[DJ Mbenga]

Brady almost sacked himself

[DJ Mbenga]

With JPP injured idk who's knob Collinsworth is gonna slob for the rest of the game

does kraft have a 15 yr old daughter?

[lefty]

Brady


fuck you

[NASpurs]

Whoa I just saw the TOSB in a commercial.

[DAF86]

Shades of 08.

[DJ Mbenga]

nicks huge hands failed him

[tim_duncan_fan]

Tim sighting!

[DJ Mbenga]

this isn't a prom stop dancing

[lefty]

my blood pressure .............

[DJ Mbenga]

giants dominated 3rd down 2 weeks ago. Now they suck

[lefty]

1 quarter left



I'm scared :D

[DAF86]

lol Brady trying to pull an Eli.

[DJ Mbenga]

lol Brady trying to pull an Eli.

[lefty]

Well










That was dumb play

[resistanze]

Epic epic fail Brady

[Chachachango]

Damn, nice play by blackburn

[DJ Mbenga]

stop dancing and just run!

[MavDynasty]

:lmao Bradshaw

[Amarelooms]

Giants are lucky...not good...bullshit bounces :elephant

[lefty]

TBH, why throwing a bomb to an injured player ?

[lefty]

Congratulations NYG and NYG fans



Well deserved win

[LnGrrrR]

Fuck thes