Ron Paul's son detained for terrorism

[cheguevara]

:wow

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/post/2012/01/rand-paul-tsa/609833/1

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has been detained by Transportation Security Administration agents this morning, Paul's father Ron Paul (R-Texas) said this morning via Facebook and Twitter.

The incident apparently happened at Nashville International Airport, with RonPaul saying via Twitter:

My son @SenRandPaul being detained by TSA for refusing full body pat-down after anomaly in body scanner in Nashville

"I'll share more details as the situation unfolds," he added via his Facebook page.

[boutons_deux]

Libertarians Just Want To Be Free!

[cheguevara]

And Democrats/Republicans Just Want A Police State!

[Drachen]

Misleading title, TBH.

[cheguevara]

Misleading title, TBH.

what is the purpose of the pat downs?

[Drachen]

what is the purpose of the pat downs?

To make everyone feel better. Could be multiple things. Maybe they thought he was smuggling drugs. Either way, I am sure that you will sensationalize it as some kind of sleight against Paul.

[lefty]

Fuck TSA

[cheguevara]

To make everyone feel better. Could be multiple things. Maybe they thought he was smuggling drugs. Either way, I am sure that you will sensationalize it as some kind of sleight against Paul.

Pat downs make you feel better?

This was posted to show the Pauls not only talk the talk, but also walk the walk.

[mercos]

Apparently he was not actually detained, just denied access to the secure gate area. Kudos to him for standing up for he beliefs I guess. I don't agree with him or his father on a lot of issues, but on this one I do. The TSA could afford to be a little less rigid and use a little more common sense when it comes to pat downs.

[boutons_deux]

bureaucratic robots employed by a last-resort employer don't have common sense, only rules to be executed.

[Drachen]

Pat downs make you feel better?

This was posted to show the Pauls not only talk the talk, but also walk the walk.

They don't make me feel better, but they also don't do a ton to prevent terrorism, hence, to make people feel better.

[cheguevara]

They don't make me feel better, but they also don't do a ton to prevent terrorism, hence, to make people feel better.

Giving up your liberty to feel better is pretty stupid.

[ChumpDumper]

Rand says just pat down the darker foreign people.

[cheguevara]

Rand says just pat down the darker foreign people.

care to provide a link?

[DisAsTerBot]

lol tsa and pat downs.
just detonate in line.

illusion of security.

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0123/Why-Rand-Paul-refused-a-TSA-pat-down-missed-flight-to-D.C

[Drachen]

I agree . . . to a point. Its just hard to objectively define that point.

[cheguevara]

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0123/Why-Rand-Paul-refused-a-TSA-pat-down-missed-flight-to-D.C

nothing there regarding his support of patting darker foreign people by TSA. Maybe you made it up?

[Drachen]

sounds like he is saying that some people should have to give up their freedom for security, just not people like him.

[FromWayDowntown]

nothing there regarding his support of patting darker foreign people by TSA. Maybe you made it up?


In September 2011 Congressional hearing, Sen. Paul said, "When the TSA head [John S] Pistole was here, he said, well, we need to do these invasive searches ... absolutely, we have to because an 8-year old in Kandahar exploded a bomb. To me that shows a bit of naivete to think that somehow there's a similarity between an 8-year old in Kandahar and an 8-year old in Bowling Green, Kentucky."

[baseline bum]

LOL, what a douchebag; he could easily hide a bomb under that hairpiece.

[cheguevara]

keywords "in Kandahar"

[4>0rings]

Totally random, totally a coincidence. Nothing to see here, move along.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

what is the purpose of the pat downs?
To make Americans think like there's an imminent terrorist threat so they're fearful and easy to get in line

[cheguevara]

The White House, through spokesman Jay Carney, defended the TSA’s actions during Monday’s press briefing by arguing that Paul wasn’t technically “detained.”

“Let’s be clear,” Carney said. “The passenger was not detained. He was escorted out of the area by local law-enforcement.”

But Sen. Paul told TheDC that he certainly felt like he was detained. “If you’re told you can’t leave, does that count as detention?” Paul asked.


Sen. Paul explained, “they did let me walk through the screener [machine] and it didn’t go off. So what the TSA is not telling you is the screeners are being used as random devices as well. The [mechanical] screeners will go off randomly, and the [agent] screeners don’t know that it’s a random call but it has nothing to do with what you’ve done.”

“The TSA has got a lot of problems,” Paul told TheDC. “There are a lot of people who are insulted and their dignity is compromised by what the TSA does to them. Really all I’m asking for is when you go through the screener [machine], you ought to be allowed to choose to get a body pat-down or choose to go back through the screener.”

TSA procedures, he said, ultimately waste time and resources. “So, if you try to comply, if you take your shoes off, you take your glasses off, you take your wallet out, you take everything out of your pockets and try to comply, it still goes off randomly.”

“But then you’re made to think that, ‘Oh, there’s a problem. We have to look at this,’” Paul said. “But, they’re wasting time, I think, by doing this. Instead of targeting people who meet a risk profile for terrorism, what they’re doing is they’re just doing these random things. But, I think it’s a waste of time and it’s insulting to put people through a body pat down when they have not shown any risk.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/23/rand-paul-on-tsa-detainment-i-was-barked-at-do-not-leave-the-cubicle/#ixzz1kJpgZ3ro

[ChumpDumper]

Thanks for providing another quote from Paul saying he wants to pat down only darker foreign folk. :toast

[cheguevara]

Thanks for proving you don't know what you are talking about. It says nothing about darkies from foreign lands. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Thanks for proving you don't know what you are talking about. It says nothing about darkies from foreign lands. :lolWhom do you think Rand wants to be profiled?

Be specific.

[elbamba]

As he is a US Senator, I think the title could probably use his name. imo.

[cheguevara]

Whom do you think Rand wants to be profiled?

Be specific.

it says nothing about racial profiling which is one of many types of profiling. Unless you can find proof on the internets, you have nothing. thanks.

[ChumpDumper]

it says nothing about racial profiling. Unless you can find proof on the internets, you have nothing. thanks.That wasn't my question.

Who do you think Rand Paul wants to be profiled?

Be specific.

[cheguevara]

That wasn't my question.

Who do you think Rand Paul wants to be profiled?

Be specific.

Again you don't have proof that he wants racial profiling. Stop making shit up. Otherwise prove it. The burden of proof is on you. :lol

thanks.

[ChumpDumper]

Again you don't have proof that he wants racial profiling. Stop making shit up. Otherwise prove it.

thanks.Your refusal to answer a simple question is proof.

Thanks.

Who do you think Rand Paul wants to be profiled and searched instead of himself?

Thanks.

[cheguevara]

Again the burden of proof falls on you. You are the one claiming it.

El Che will continue this conversation with you if you find me some proof. thanks.

[ChumpDumper]

Again the burden of proof falls on you. You are the one claiming it.

El Che will continue this conversation with you if you find me some proof. thanks.Along with Rand's clear implication, you have provided all the proof I need tbh.

You're afraid to answer a simple question because you are afraid it will make Paul look bad. I understand.

Funny thing is, I don't necessarily disagree with him.

[Pelicans78]

The pat downs don't feel good. Its a big topic of discussion with my therapist.

[Bill_Brasky]

The TSA is pretty much useless and a huge waste of money.

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2011/12/tsa-insanity-201112