Dwight to NY for Amare and Chandler - Stephen A.Smith

[lefty]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ycn-10875335

[Giuseppe]

Poor Amare'.

lmfao!

[pass1st]

Knicks might stop embarrassing themselves if that happened.

[Spur_Fanatic]

Bullshit. Kool said Dwight will join Kobe and CP3 in LA.

[pass1st]

Bullshit. Kool said Dwight will join Kobe and CP3 in LA.

CP3 will be with Kobe whenever LAL plays Clips, so 50% fulfilled!

[jeebus]

The Knickerbockers would still suck.

[Ice009]

Interesting. I wonder if Dwight to New York would be enough to get Phil Jackson out of retirement. I think that could be a possibility with a trade like this.

[Spur_Fanatic]

CP3 will be with Kobe whenever LAL plays Clips, so 50% fulfilled!

On this things, I tend to believe Kool. The guy knows his stuff, and his sources are excellent.

[Trill Clinton]

easiest solution to the knicks problems would be to fire that suck ass coach they got.

[Koolaid_Man]

Bullshit. Kool said Dwight will join Kobe and CP3 in LA.


Dwight is really a shitty player and only...and that's a BIG ONLY if he comes to LA will his game improve...almost every player in NBA history when they go to N.Y their games suffer...that's a fact...it's like the Bambino curse on the Red Sox...NY is just fucked when it comes to basketball...:lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

easiest solution to the knicks problems would be to fire that suck ass coach they got.
This. Even I'm beginning to doubt Amare now and his commitment to being a winner (though the Knicks could lose out for the rest of the year and it wouldn't do anything to justify the Suns' decision to let him leave), but they'll never be a contender with D'antoni as coach.

[DPG21920]

B>a

[Dunc n Dave]

If I'm the Knicks, I do this trade in a heartbeat.... finish out the year as a Top 4-5 seed, then sign Nash or Paul in the summer and make a run at the Finals.

[lefty]

I agree

Get rid of D'Antoni first, then sign JVG

[8FOR!3]

Dwight's better off staying in Orlando. He'd have Melo in NYC but that'd be IT. Who would be their starting PF? Jared Jeffries??

[Dunc n Dave]

Dwight's better off staying in Orlando. He'd have Melo in NYC but that'd be IT. Who would be their starting PF? Jared Jeffries??

You'd probably have Glen Davis or Ryan Anderson going to NY in the deal too...

[lefty]

Dwight's better off staying in Orlando. He'd have Melo in NYC but that'd be IT. Who would be their starting PF? Jared Jeffries??
You dont need to have super stacked team to win

2 stars + a coach like JVG would transform the NYK

[BUMP]

If I'm the Knicks, I do this trade in a heartbeat.... finish out the year as a Top 4-5 seed, then sign Nash or Paul in the summer and make a run at the Finals.

I think firing their coach and signing anybody but Nash would be a better solution tbh

[baseline bum]

It would be a horrible move for the Knicks. They would have to take Turkoglu's contract and have already used up their amnesty slot, so there's no way they could clear capspace to get a 3rd good player.

[m>s]

w/ billups gone NY need a ball distributor more than anything. a package containing TC & amare ain't a good deal for orlando either since TC's contract is HUGE which would be quite a burden for a rebuilding team

[dunkman]

It makes a lot of sense for Orlando, instead of losing Howard for nothing they get Amare and Chandler on long term contracts. It would make sense for the Knicks too if Howard resigns with them, because they get the best big man in the NBA.

With 'Melo and Howard, plus Phil Jax the Knicks would be a contender, but the Heat would still have more talent.

[Pelicans78]

LOL Carmelo

[DMC]

If Howard goes to NY, and they keep Melo, look for Phil to institute the triangle there.

[ElNono]

Why?

[DMC]

Why?
If you're talking to me: Because Phil needs a team that he doesn't have to build on. He will have a defensive mindset and they will get another big for nothing if Phil showed up.

[ElNono]

If you're talking to me: Because Phil needs a team that he doesn't have to build on. He will have a defensive mindset and they will get another big for nothing if Phil showed up.

I'm talking to the thread title... why would the Knicks do that when the problem is Pringles?

[m>s]

TC & amare ain't good stocks for a rebuilding team imho.

[Leetonidas]

Fuck NY is terrible. It's like the people in charge have never even seen a basketball game. Anyone who has watched a game featuring any of their "big 3" could've guessed they'd suck together. But Amare and Chandler is probably the best offer they're gonna get for Howard

[jjktkk]

I'm talking to the thread title... why would the Knicks do that when the problem is Pringles?

Never noticed that before. :lol

[baseline bum]

I don't get why everyone thinks NY should pull the trigger on this deal. They would then be Carmelo, DH12, and 10 incredibly shitty players with no way to sign a decent 3rd guy until the summer of 2014. Just get D'Antoni the fuck out of there and sign someone not completely awful to play point with the mini-MLE next season and they'll be fine.

[DMC]

I don't get why everyone thinks NY should pull the trigger on this deal. They would then be Carmelo, DH12, and 10 incredibly shitty players with no way to sign a decent 3rd guy until the summer of 2014. Just get D'Antoni the fuck out of there and sign someone not completely awful to play point with the mini-MLE next season and they'll be fine.
NY hasn't worried about being "fine" for a long time. They want to be in the media.

[angelbelow]

I don't get why everyone thinks NY should pull the trigger on this deal. They would then be Carmelo, DH12, and 10 incredibly shitty players with no way to sign a decent 3rd guy until the summer of 2014. Just get D'Antoni the fuck out of there and sign someone not completely awful to play point with the mini-MLE next season and they'll be fine.

ROI is higher on Dwight. From a business perspective its a good move.

[ElNono]

Never noticed that before. :lol

http://www.hoopsjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/Mike-DAntoni-and-the-Pringles-Guy.jpg

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/2/5/129098856726512829.jpg

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/4/29/4792d32a-d216-4b0d-99a8-9eaf21a1771d.jpg

[dbreiden83080]

Knicks would still suck because Carmelo Anthony fuckin sucks.. Most over-rated stat stuffer in the game..

[Killakobe81]

LOL not happening ...

Though Amare has Florida roots his body is more of a time-bomb than Bynum's

[TDMVPDPOY]

he doesnt wanna goto LA cause he doesnt wanna be 2nd option

so whats the difference if he goes to the knicks with carmelo the ball hog

[rayjayjohnson]

This. Even I'm beginning to doubt Amare now and his commitment to being a winner (though the Knicks could lose out for the rest of the year and it wouldn't do anything to justify the Suns' decision to let him leave), but they'll never be a contender with D'antoni as coach.

Clear something up for me, the wife and i were disagreeing about this last night (yes, the wife likes ball. how awesome is that?)

she says amare went to NY due to ego. I said, yes, he's egotistical, but would have stayed in PHX if they offered him the max.

Who's right?

[rayjayjohnson]

...and if NYC knew what was good for them, they should be offering melo + chandler, not amare.

[pass1st]

he doesnt wanna goto LA cause he doesnt wanna be 2nd option

so whats the difference if he goes to the knicks with carmelo the ball hog

He can grab offensive rebounds when Kobe bricks and dunk it back in

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

If the Knicks can't win with two super-stars and a defensive stopper in their starting line-up, what would it matter to get Howard? Yeah, a Howard & Turiaf front-court sounds dominant, Howard would NEVER have to play help defense.

-___-;

[Jacob1983]

Tyson Chandler and the Mavs' response


http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/2/12/129104877908775765.jpg

[rayjayjohnson]

If the Knicks can't win with two super-stars and a defensive stopper in their starting line-up, what would it matter to get Howard? Yeah, a Howard & Turiaf front-court sounds dominant, Howard would NEVER have to play help defense.

-___-;

Doesn't that homeless guy turiaf play for the warriors now?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Clear something up for me, the wife and i were disagreeing about this last night (yes, the wife likes ball. how awesome is that?)

she says amare went to NY due to ego. I said, yes, he's egotistical, but would have stayed in PHX if they offered him the max.

Who's right?
You're 100% right. The Knicks offered him a 5 year $99,000,000 deal, and he went back to the Suns and said he'd stay in Phoenix for 5 years $92,000,000. The Suns offered it but the final 2 years were non-guaranteed, so the Knicks were offering him $40,000,000 more guaranteed than the Suns were. This isn't a rumor or anything, it's what happened.

There is a rumor that Kerr had a 5 year, $90,000,000 extension that would have kept him off the open market he was actually faxing to Amare's agent when Sarver told him not to and screamed at him about. That is what some people think convinced Kerr he better get out before shit hits the fan.

[Double-Up]

With Amare's uninsurable knees there ain't no way Orlando's doing that trade and that's not even counting Chandler's long ass contract.

[lefty]

Damn

[Killakobe81]

I don't get why everyone thinks NY should pull the trigger on this deal. They would then be Carmelo, DH12, and 10 incredibly shitty players with no way to sign a decent 3rd guy until the summer of 2014. Just get D'Antoni the fuck out of there and sign someone not completely awful to play point with the mini-MLE next season and they'll be fine.

I think Baseline is wise beyond his years ... Cuban may also have hit the nail on the head, and proved it last year quality depth trumps teams that are "top" heavy (still think he made a mistake on breaking up his squad) Going the Big 3 route might not be wise. Sure it looks good for the heat but they have the most dominant player in the game. The other BIG 3 type teams are not doing so well ...(Lakers, Knicks, Celts) and the deep teams like the Bulls, Clips, Denver Blazers have played well for the most part.

[Mal]

I don't get why everyone thinks NY should pull the trigger on this deal. They would then be Carmelo, DH12, and 10 incredibly shitty players with no way to sign a decent 3rd guy until the summer of 2014. Just get D'Antoni the fuck out of there and sign someone not completely awful to play point with the mini-MLE next season and they'll be fine.

There are plenty of Bibby`s, Baron`s and other ring whores, that would love to play in NY with Melo and Dwight.

If I were Dwight, and I want to play in NY, I would prefer to play with Deron Williams rather then Carmelo.

[Pelicans78]

The problem is Carmelo. Its hard to establish a half-court offense with him. He needs to dominate the ball for long periods of time to get his offense going. He doesn't play well off the ball because he's heavy and doesn't move well. He takes low percentage shots which puts his teams out of rhythm offensively. Plus, he's not a good fit with Amare. Honestly, Melo's not a good fit with anyone. He played with talented teams in Denver and only advanced out of the 1st round once and Billups was the biggest reason why.

Really, Amare and Melo are a bad fit together. Chandler's been great so far.

[dunkman]

Letting Billups go for nothing was a dumb move tbh. At least from the bball pov. The trio of Billups, 'Melo and Howard would have been very well balanced against the Heat's big 3. It's not clear how could the Knicks add another all-star player after trading for Howard.