Video of guy getting smoked by cops at Carl's Jr.

[Heath Ledger]

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[cantthinkofanything]

Shit. I don't know. What's the point of having the dog if they aren't going to turn it lose. Seems like when the guy turned on the cop, the other cop should have let the dog go.

[bus driver]

well that ended successfully

[Heath Ledger]

Over Kill the guy was on the ground turned away from the cops after the first 5 shots he was shot in the back 5 more times for good measure. One stray bullet hit a sign across the street above a ladys head debris fell down injuring her and sendering her to the hospital.

[CosmicCowboy]

Shit. I don't know. What's the point of having the dog if they aren't going to turn it lose. Seems like when the guy turned on the cop, the other cop should have let the dog go.

Guy had a crow bar...they didn't want to risk getting the dog hurt...

[cantthinkofanything]

Guy had a crow bar...they didn't want to risk getting the dog hurt...

The guy was turned. The dog would have been inside the radius of the crowbar in a half second and had the guy on the ground.

I realize that's easy for me to say with the beneift of the video replay and not having the threat of getting hit with a crowbar. But it seemed like a good place to free the hounds.

Still...shooting the guy that many times when he's obviously going down. And all he had is a crowbar.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Cop might get in trouble for how many shots he fired, but shooting the guy in the first place was fine. Can't take chances when he's running at a cop.

[cantthinkofanything]

Cop might get in trouble for how many shots he fired, but shooting the guy in the first place was fine. Can't take chances when he's running at a cop.

Right. But he should have first tried to shoot the guy's hand to make him drop the crowbar. Threat would then be mostly neutralized. Then let the dog go and put him down.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I've blamed cops for brutality plenty of times but you can't expect a cop to think it through that much when he's charging another cop with a crow bar. He has to react quickly. The way to avoid this is not charging at cops with a crow bar.

[Heath Ledger]

the 2nd burst of 5 rds was from a 2nd police officer. i don't disagree with shooting the guy but 10 rds five of which after that dude was already on the ground turned away from the cops is just ridiculous.

In any case one less bad guy on the streets.

[TheMACHINE]

Crowbar guy was a dumbass

[CosmicCowboy]

Right. But he should have first tried to shoot the guy's hand to make him drop the crowbar. Threat would then be mostly neutralized. Then let the dog go and put him down.

:lmao

You've watched too many old westerns. You can only do that shit when you are fanning your single action colt revolver.

[cantthinkofanything]

:lmao

You've watched too many old westerns. You can only do that shit when you are fanning your single action colt revolver.

Whatever. The pistols they are using are much more accurate than the old western guns. They are automatic and are able to be pointed at much smaller increments. Plus the cops are trained for just such situations.

[King]

I love comments like "why didn't they shoot the guy's hand..." or "shoot him in the leg." You people clearly watch too many movies. Handguns aren't easy to aim, and much less easy to aim in a situation like that. These guys aren't marksmen from the old west. He attacked them with a crowbar after a taser didn't work. They tried non-lethal means, and he attacked them. And they're told to shoot center mass for a reason. It's the easiest place to hit. When you shoot a gun, you shoot to kill - not neutralize.

If a guy breaks into your house with a crowbar, do you try to shoot the pipe out of his hand, or do you put nine in his chest and ask questions later?

I agree that there are lots of corrupt cops who use excessive force. But, not every cop who fires his weapon is a brute.

Sucks that a guy died. Easy solution...don't be an idiot.

[King]

Whatever. The pistols they are using are much more accurate than the old western guns. They are automatic and are able to be pointed at much smaller increments. Plus the cops are trained for just such situations.

Have you actually fired a gun before? Honestly?

[bus driver]

Whatever. The pistols they are using are much more accurate than the old western guns. They are automatic and are able to be pointed at much smaller increments. Plus the cops are trained for just such situations.

why do you point a gun at someone?

A). to look cool
B). neutralize a threat
C). to kill

[cantthinkofanything]

why do you point a gun at someone?

A). to look cool
B). neutralize a threat
C). to kill

It depends. If I'm out with my crew and someone steps to me, I usually just point it to look cool.

If I'm out with my hoe and she gets drunk and mad at me, I usually point it to neutralize the threat.

If a cop is running at me with a crowbar, I point to kill. But I alternate rounds between glasers and hollow points to make as much of a mess as possible.

[baseline bum]

You make the decision to shoot, you better be going for the kill. Otherwise that crowbar is going to be cracking your fucking skull.

[cantthinkofanything]

Have you actually fired a gun before? Honestly?

Yes. I actually own a Beretta 17 and a shotgun.

[JayTheClown]

Don't wanna say they guy deserved it, but I cant blame the cops on this one. If I have a gun and you are running at me with a crowbar then yeah, ima probably shoot ya.

[resistanze]

Cops kill for much less. The idiot was a goner from the start.

[resistanze]

The only funny part is the the news reports are saying the cop said the perp swung the bar at him twice before opening fire. :lol @ cops lying even when they're in the right.

[sandman]

Whatever. The pistols they are using are much more accurate than the old western guns. They are automatic and are able to be pointed at much smaller increments. Plus the cops are trained for just such situations.

Cops are trained to aim for center mass to neutralize the threat as quickly as possible. You're confusing TJ Hooker with reality.

[cantthinkofanything]

Cops are trained to aim for center mass to neutralize the threat as quickly as possible. You're confusing TJ Hooker with reality.

LOL. TJ Hooker.
But really, they are trained to determine the best target and hit it. In this case, it would have been the guy's left hand.

[bus driver]

It depends. If I'm out with my crew and someone steps to me, I usually just point it to look cool.

If I'm out with my hoe and she gets drunk and mad at me, I usually point it to neutralize the threat.

If a cop is running at me with a crowbar, I point to kill. But I alternate rounds between glasers and hollow points to make as much of a mess as possible.

:wow all three ur gangsta!

[sandman]

LOL. TJ Hooker.
But really, they are trained to determine the best target and hit it. In this case, it would have been the guy's left hand.

My dad was a cop for over 30 years. I can't recall a single instance where he espoused the theory of aiming for the hand to stop an attacker. Their mindset was that you don't pull your weapon out unless you are willing to use it, and you don't pull the trigger unless you are willing to kill.

I'll be more than happy to eat crow on this one, but I doubt you will find a police academy that conducts handgun training for shooting weapons out of hands.

[CubanSucks]

gotta love the hoodrat pieces of shit who were filming being able to laugh about it immediately after it happens then turning around and whining about excessiveness

"Get the kid an ambulance! *laugh laugh* Man that wasn't necessary! *laugh laugh* They didn't have to shoot that many times!"


The guy was turned. The dog would have been inside the radius of the crowbar in a half second and had the guy on the ground.

Inside the radius? What the fuck does that matter? Even if a big ass dog is already latched onto my arm tearing me to shreads I can still bend my other fucking arm and beat the hell out of it with a metal stick.

[cantthinkofanything]

My dad was a cop for over 30 years. I can't recall a single instance where he espoused the theory of aiming for the hand to stop an attacker. Their mindset was that you don't pull your weapon out unless you are willing to use it, and you don't pull the trigger unless you are willing to kill.

I'll be more than happy to eat crow on this one, but I doubt you will find a police academy that conducts handgun training for shooting weapons out of hands.

I don't think so. I'm sure it differs from state to state and department to department about how they train to shoot.

[cantthinkofanything]

Inside the radius? What the fuck does that matter? Even if a big ass dog is already latched onto my arm tearing me to shreads I can still bend my other fucking arm and beat the hell out of it with a metal stick.

I don't know why I've been calling it a crowbar but it looks like a sledgehammer. Either way, you wouldn't be strong enough to use it with enough leverage and force on a dog that was probably ripping at your throat. Assuming you didn't drop the thing anyway.

[mingus]

what's the point of shooting a guy 10 times if he is neutralized? hold your fucking fire, moron. those are my tax dollars you're wasting with bullets on a corpse.

[sandman]

what's the point of shooting a guy 10 times if he is neutralized? hold your fucking fire, moron. those are my tax dollars you're wasting with bullets on a corpse.

So your issue is why spend $30 when $4.50 will do?

[mouse]

What are rubber bullets for?

[pawe]

You never stop firing til the threat is no longer a threat anymore. I doubt the cops even know how many times they pulled the trigger because of the adrenalin rush.
Also, you never shoot to maim because it is illegal.

LOL at shooting the hand to drop the hammer or shooting the leg. That's some Hollywood shit.
I bet even with the tightest, lightest triggered 1911 can't hit those areas while a guy is coming at you with a sledgehammer with less than 20 feet.

[cantthinkofanything]

You never stop firing til the threat is no longer a threat anymore. I doubt the cops even know how many times they pulled the trigger because of the adrenalin rush.
Also, you never shoot to maim because it is illegal.

LOL at shooting the hand to drop the hammer or shooting the leg. That's some Hollywood shit.
I bet even with the tightest, lightest triggered 1911 can't hit those areas while a guy is coming at you with a sledgehammer with less than 20 feet.

It really made me wonder why they didn't have scopes on their pistols. One of them would have been able to enlarge the target (the hand) and make a clean shot.

[Wild Cobra]

One less loser in this world.

[pawe]

It really made me wonder why they didn't have scopes on their pistols. One of them would have been able to enlarge the target (the hand) and make a clean shot.

Good point.

[mavs>spurs]

Dude could have been mentally ill, drunk, temporary insane over some incident, etc. Looked like murder to me. Let's put that fat pig on trial. He didn't need to empty a clip, or even shoot him really.

[mouse]

what happened to bean bag bullets ?

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[mouse]

I doubt the cops even know how many times they pulled the trigger because of the adrenalin rush.


We all know about the adrenalin rush excuse.

SW1ZDIXiuS4

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[CosmicCowboy]

It really made me wonder why they didn't have scopes on their pistols. One of them would have been able to enlarge the target (the hand) and make a clean shot.

This guy REALLY IS a fucking idiot.

[resistanze]

You know he's trolling, right?

[phxspurfan]

Very simple rules of using a weapon

1. Keep your finger outside of the trigger guard until you're ready to fire.
2. Don't point your weapon at anything you don't intend to kill.
3. When you shoot, shoot to kill.

Most police (non-SWAT) train to shoot center of mass, both to take down the suspect and to limit civilian casualties. And when they shoot, they make sure the threat is neutralized. And an officer only breaks leather when the suspect will not comply with orders to drop a weapon, or if the offer feels he/she/the public is in grave danger. This guy may have just had a pipe, but he may have also had another weapon in his possession. You don't get the luxury of being Monday morning QB when your job involves life threatening confrontations.

Don't point weapons at police!

[King]

It really made me wonder why they didn't have scopes on their pistols. One of them would have been able to enlarge the target (the hand) and make a clean shot.

Yeah, or why didn't they shoot webs out of their wrists and pin him against the wall?

Or how come they didn't use their mind to stop time and apprehended him that way?

Turn off the movies, man.

No, gun training doesn't vary state to state. They're NEVER taught to shoot it out of the hand. They're taught to shoot center mass all the time, every time. Because it's the biggest target. Not a swinging arm. Even when a police sharpshooter comes in, how often is the dude maimed? Never. He's usually killed with a headshot.


Seriously? A pistol scope to enlarge the target? You have to be kidding me.

[DMC]

He must have not paid for his fries.

[CubanSucks]

Dude could have been mentally ill, drunk, temporary insane over some incident, etc. Looked like murder to me. Let's put that fat pig on trial. He didn't need to empty a clip, or even shoot him really.

don't even know where to begin with this comedic gold

[bus driver]

What are rubber bullets for?

to put on your little pecker so you dont get a girl pregnant :wakeup

[mavs>spurs]

they could have apprehended the dude like a real man instead of a scared gun wielding pussy. :cry he had a stick in his hand :cry

turn that k9 loose and let him take that ass down, but don't empty a fucking clip because you're shaking and trembling so hard you can't stop. cops are such pussies sometimes.

[mouse]

to put on your little pecker so you dont get a girl pregnant :wakeup

So what time I pick you up tonight?

:wakeup

[JayTheClown]

I never been to Carl's Jr before. They have good burgers or what?

[redzero]

This would have never happened if the guy was using Juggernaut and Commando.

[mouse]

I never been to Carl's Jr before. They have good burgers or what?

Apparently they're to die for.

[JayTheClown]

Apparently they're to die for.

:lol

You thank me for walking into that.

[BlackSwordsMan]

Shit. I don't know. What's the point of having the dog if they aren't going to turn it lose. Seems like when the guy turned on the cop, the other cop should have let the dog go.

meh why risk the dog shoot the asshole

[BlackSwordsMan]

btw why is there only one carl's jr in san antonio?

[silverblk mystix]

:corn:SB Mystix approves of this video....

The cops were right on the money...

Lol at shooting the hand...funny shit....

Hollywood stuff...


Now if the cops really wanted to make an impression...they would have ...get this...they would have....um...


turned their weapons sideways

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[BlackSwordsMan]

why do you type like a 12 year old girl on myspace

[baseline bum]

I never been to Carl's Jr before. They have good burgers or what?

Not bad

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[baseline bum]

btw why is there only one carl's jr in san antonio?

There are 6 of them.

[BlackSwordsMan]

WHAT? take me to one?

[BlackSwordsMan]

another cool video
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[mouse]

:lol

You thank me for walking into that.

Your my :toast
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JthwHxdA-dc/SkJDYTKID1I/AAAAAAAAA1E/zrqNAChAvzM/s400/Heeere%27sJohnny.jpg

[baseline bum]

WHAT? take me to one?

I was wrong; there are 7 of them in and just outside of SA.

http://locations.carlsjr.com/carlsjr/cgi/selection?zip=san%20antonio,%20tx

[silverblk mystix]

why do you type like a 12 year old girl on myspace

maybe I am a 12 year old girl on myspace.....pervert!

[mouse]

maybe I am a 12 year old girl on myspace.....pervert!

Trust me your two years over his taste. :wakeup

[BlackSwordsMan]

friend request sent =]

[silverblk mystix]

friend request sent =]

:lmao

[PM5K]

I don't see why the cop just didn't take that potion that makes you the fastest gunner in the West for ten seconds. He certainly would have been able to shoot the weapon out of the suspect's hand.

I get mine from Henry J. Fate, but I'm sure you can also find it elsewhere.

[DMC]

Guys talking sound just like south side SA mexicans tbh

[BRHornet45]

one less piece of shit in the world. good riddance

[CubanSucks]

I never been to Carl's Jr before. They have good burgers or what?

YES

their fries used to be incredible but now they have these pathetic skinny pieces of shit

it's kinda funny cause BK went the other way except BK's fries used to be amazing as skinny but now they have the fatter fries which taste like the one's we had back in high school in the ghetto food line. Whereas Carl's Jr used to have fat fries that were amazing and now have bland skinny fries

[Wild Cobra]

Dude could have been mentally ill, drunk, temporary insane over some incident, etc. Looked like murder to me. Let's put that fat pig on trial. He didn't need to empty a clip, or even shoot him really.
I think they did use unnecessary force, but he did look threatening with a lethal weapon. It is a reasonable claim that if they didn't take him down, he could have killed an officer first.

[Wild Cobra]

We all know about the adrenalin rush excuse.

SW1ZDIXiuS4

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=police+excessive+force&oq=police++excessive&aq=0&aqi=g2g-m3&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=24711l50307l0l54519l28l27l0l9l2l5l205l2797l 1.15.2l18l0
Classic.

Hey...

Why is that tape edited? Where's what happened just before that part?

[rascal]

That guy was so slow didn't even look like much of a threat. The dog should have easily handled him.

[mouse]

friend request sent =]

/thread

:lmao

[mouse]

Classic.

Hey...

Why is that tape edited? Where's what happened just before that part?

Are you saying it was "blacked" out?

[2pac > Kobe]

another cool video
qeRlnvTeWJE
that was tight, building suspense leads to a happy ending :]

back on topic

RIP to that nigga

[CubanSucks]

That guy was so slow didn't even look like much of a threat. The dog should have easily handled him.

dogs well-being > crazed guy storming out with a crowbar


RIP to that nigga

:lmao

[DMC]

blue skies, he will be eating at the big Carl Sr's in the sky.

[baseline bum]

LOL, the cops don't owe it to the criminal to wait until one of them gets whacked and possibly killed by a weapon. If you pull your weapon up and ready yourself to swing the only reasonable assumption is that you're about to swing.

[Sisk]

Anyone who thinks the officer wasn't in the right is an idiot.

[Wild Cobra]

Anyone who thinks the officer wasn't in the right is an idiot.
I agree. He was within his rights. I also think he could have chose a different option, but I don't mind seeing the scumbag off the street, for good.

[Chomag]

First of all it's so easy to arm chair what they could have done differently by watching a video in a calm manner with all the time to think about it. However these things are life and death situtions for these officers where every split second matters. What if the officer that was doing the shooting hesitated to weigh all of the options? His partner could have a cracked skull right now.

I agree that every situation has more then one option, but sometimes you just don't have time execute what might be the best one. The suspect was attacking and was a threat, that threat had to be naturalized very quickly. These officers have every right to return to their families safely just as any of us.

Point being, don't point a weapon and attack a police officer if you don't have a death wish.

Also, in a police officer training they are taught to shoot to kill, not wound. Go to any gun handling class, that is one of the first things they teach you.

[Blake]

Of course he was drunk.

He has to deal all day with geniuses that buy vowels when the board shows something like wh _ _ l of fortun_.

[baseline bum]

What if the officer that was doing the shooting hesitated to weigh all of the options? His partner could have a cracked skull right now.

Yeah, best case scenario for his partner would have been a bunch of fractured bones in his hand/arm if he gets them up to block in time and some major plastic surgery to his forehead. So in the best case scenario the guy's hand is crippled, he can't pick his kids up, he probably can't write well, can't go rock-climbing or shoot a basketball normally, can't throw a football with his kids, etc. That's a hell of a lot to give up because you're not willing to shoot an attacker. Even worse, a blow to the front of the head can injure the part of your brain that keeps you from acting like an impulsive and aggressive 2 year-old. It can easily change who a person is.

[Blake]

Of course he was drunk.

He has to deal all day with geniuses that buy vowels when the board shows something like wh _ _ l of fortun_.

Fail :td

[Obstructed_View]

Suicide by cop. Not completely uncommon. Pretty much a guaranteed quick death with the LAPD. There are simply too many crazy people out there for them to take chances.

Those of you that feel like talking guys like that into dropping their weapons or wrestling on the ground with someone while a crowd gathers around are welcome to go apply for a position.

[Frank Dux]

Should have karate kicked his hand. Stupid fat lazy pig has probably never even heard of Van Damme.