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JoeChalupa
01-27-2012, 10:40 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/gingrich-romney_n_1235715.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

WASHINGTON -- Members of Newt Gingrich's campaign accused Mitt Romney's campaign of packing the audience for the Republican presidential candidate debate on Thursday night in Jacksonville, Fla., with its own supporters to ensure that the dynamics would be favorable to Romney.

"They definitely packed the room," Kevin Kellems, one of Gingrich's senior advisers, told The Huffington Post early Friday morning. "The problem for them is their candidate, at several junctures, couldn't remember what he had said before on an issue or what the fundamental truth is on a given topic. TV viewers tend to notice and remember things like that."

A more junior member of the Gingrich campaign said in an email that it was "obvious" that the Romney campaign had worked to make sure the audience was overly favorable toward the former Massachusetts governor.

"I was getting calls and emails from all over saying this," the junior aide said. "Just average people saying, 'Wait a minute.'"

The campaign staffer noted that the Florida Republican Party had "picked 900 plus seats."

Florida Republican Party spokesman Brian Hughes told HuffPost in a phone interview late Thursday that the state party controlled who got roughly 900 of the 1,200 tickets issued to the debate. But he took issue with charges that the crowd was tilted toward any one candidate.

"The vast majority of [the tickets] went to rank and file. We did a very thorough job of getting them to the rank and file, vetting them to make sure they went to registered Republicans and then making sure they went out to people that were not knowingly affiliated" with any of the candidates, Hughes said.

"We worked very hard to ensure that the room was rank-and-file folks who represent the electorate that these guys are trying to speak to," Hughes said.

Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom was asked after the debate if the campaign had worked to get supporters in the crowd. Fehrnstrom said he had invited his parents, who live in Jacksonville, but no one else.

"The campaign was given an allotment of tickets," Fehrnstrom said. "I don't know how many tickets they received. I assume it's the same as every other campaign."

After the debate ended, Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia's Center for Politics, wrote on Twitter: "Hidden story of this debate: Why was audience more pro-Mitt & less pro-Newt than others? JAX was pro-Mitt '08, but must be more to it."

Raucous debate crowds in South Carolina, who roared their approval for Gingrich last week on two separate evenings, helped the former House speaker score a huge win in the Palmetto State on Saturday. Gingrich stormed into Florida with momentum on his side.

But on Monday night, instructions by NBC's Brian Williams to a debate crowd in Tampa, Fla., that the audience should withhold applause until the end of the event resulted in a different dynamic. Romney was on the attack against Gingrich, and Gingrich could not summon the same energy that he had in South Carolina with the help of supportive audiences.

After the Monday debate, Gingrich complained about Williams' instructions.

"We're going to serve notice on future debates," Gingrich said. "We're just not going to allow that to happen. That’s wrong. The media doesn’t control free speech. People ought to be allowed to applaud if they want to."

On Thursday night in Jacksonville, Romney again went on offense against Gingrich from the very beginning of the two-hour debate and was buoyed by a supportive audience.

It was a crucial debate for both Gingrich and Romney. Gingrich's lead in the polls has disappeared quickly over the past day or two, and it was widely thought that he needed another breakout performance to regain an edge. Most of the commentary after the debate, even from supporters, judged Gingrich's performance as flat, finding that he did not have a strong night.

"Live by the debate, die by the debate," Erick Erickson, founder of conservative blog RedState.com, wrote on Twitter. "Romney got the better of Gingrich and Gingrich is probably locked out of a FL win. Will be tough."

And though the Romney campaign denied any effort to fill the room with supporters, Romney told everyone at a rally in Jacksonville on Thursday morning to come to the debate.

"If you all can get there, we'd love to see you there, cheering and being part of that," Romney said.

A man in the crowd yelled out that there were no tickets.

"No tickets, huh?" Romney said. "Just storm in."

~~On Morning Joe, Scarborough said Newt knew as soon as he saw the audience he knew he was doomed.

101A
01-27-2012, 11:00 AM
It is apparent that the Republican party has chosen Romney; let the smoke rise from the chimney. This "election" has been predetermined from the beginning. I now believe people have stayed out of the race in deference to Romney - and not because he is well liked, but because he is the "chosen". Why? I can only imagine.

All but 25% of the rank and file Republicans have desperately been searching for an alternative - ANY alternative to this schmuck - and are willing to forgive/forget damn near anything to vote for someone OTHER than Romney. Hell, if Santorum would drop out, Newt would pull a head again. And quite possibly vice/versa. They both realize this, probably - the last ABR candidate standing has a decent chance.

Hell, if ANY conservative who can string two sentences together, and hasn't fathered a child with his sister could get backed by a single billionaire: that dude/dudette could be the nominee.

What a fucking circus.

I just can't figure out why the Repubicans want to lose SO BADLY. Hell, I think Hillary will be damn near impossible to beat in '16; even with a decent candidate - they are truly punching their ticket.

Viva Las Espuelas
01-27-2012, 11:07 AM
Is it me or does newt bitch and whine about every single damn thing? He was acting like a damn baby last night.

JoeChalupa
01-27-2012, 11:20 AM
Is it me or does newt bitch and whine about every single damn thing? He was acting like a damn baby last night.

Looks like he can dish it out better than he can take it and Romney is catching on quick.

Viva Las Espuelas
01-27-2012, 11:33 AM
Not much to really "catch on" to.

JoeChalupa
01-27-2012, 11:33 AM
The GOP always rewards the runner up from the previous election.

JoeChalupa
01-27-2012, 11:35 AM
Not much to really "catch on" to.

He had to stop being so timid and he did.

Winehole23
01-27-2012, 02:38 PM
The question boils down to this: Did the RNC properly allow the Republican Party of Florida to decree its primary a winner-take-all contest for Florida delegates? Or should Florida's 50 delegates in fact be divvied up proportionally by each candidate's share of the primary vote?


"The rule is absolutely clear — it should be proportional,'' said former RNC Chairman Michael Steele, who led the national party when the rules were drawn up.


Yes, it sounds like an arcane debate about the minutiae of party rules. But if you're the candidate who spends million of dollars and finishes a close second in Florida, it matters a lot whether the winner leaves Florida with 50 more delegates than you or five.


Ron Paul has already decided against spending much money in Florida's primary, saying it's not worth the expense of competing in a winner-take-all state.


And if the primary turns out to be a long slog where only 50 delegates separate the two front-runners, the Florida delegates could determine the nominee.
"It could be a mess," said Steele.


Brian Hughes, spokesman for the Florida GOP, said it's a nonissue, that the RNC's legal office has already signed off on Florida's winner-take-all primary plan.
"Michael Steele can say all he wants, but he's not the chairman anymore," Hughes said. "The RNC accepted our rule and that's it. We are winner-take-all."


That's not guaranteed, however. All it takes is a registered Florida Republican to file a protest with the RNC, and the party's contest committee would have to consider the issue when it meets in August just before the convention.


"August is going to be a very tense month for those of us on the committee on contests. We could be the group that everybody loves or everybody hates," said Fredi Simpson, an RNC member from Washington state who sits on that committee and also helped write the rules.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/if-gop-fight-drags-on-so-could-argument-over-floridas-delegates/1212342

Wild Cobra
01-27-2012, 08:36 PM
Is it me or does newt bitch and whine about every single damn thing? He was acting like a damn baby last night.
And he changes his mind like a child too.