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DeadlyDynasty
01-30-2012, 01:11 AM
Year after year I keep hearing how Pop has lost it, and that he should be fired. I'm not exactly disagreeing with the majority here, but who would realistically do a better job with this team?

He manages minutes well, has the players' respect, and his teams are usually pretty disciplined. He's also rebuilding a team on the fly as his vets start to fade out.

Who out there could do a better job, in your opinion?

TJastal
01-30-2012, 01:31 AM
I would love to see Sean Elli0t as coach of the spurs. I think with with his basketball acumen and personality he would be a much better coach and people would see just how good the spurs should have been all these years. As well as giving better interviews and being a much better rep of the spurs franchise.

Also been loving the job Scott Skiles has done in Milwaukee too. Year after year he shows that he can squeeze a helluva lot out very little. I can only imagine what he could do with a better team. I'd replace Pop in a heartbeat with Skiles.

DeadlyDynasty
01-30-2012, 01:37 AM
I would love to see Sean Elli0t as coach of the spurs. I think with with his basketball acumen and personality he would be a much better coach and people would see just how good the spurs should have been all these years. As well as giving better interviews and being a much better rep of the spurs franchise.

Also been loving the job Scott Skiles has done in Milwaukee too. Year after year he shows that he can squeeze a helluva lot out very little. I can only imagine what he could do with a better team. I'd replace Pop in a heartbeat with Skiles.

Part of your coaching standards involve how they interact with Craig Sager?

TJastal
01-30-2012, 01:44 AM
Part of your coaching standards involve how they interact with Craig Sager?

Yup, it shouldn't be too much to expect the coach to conduct himself in a cordial and affable manner on the cameras when they are representing the team.

You know Pop would ream out any of his players if they acted like he does in the media. The hypocrite's act is growing old, and tired.

baseline bum
01-30-2012, 01:46 AM
I'd like to see Mike Brown just so we can have all the Spurs fans bitching about losing Pop 2 months into the season.

jjktkk
01-30-2012, 01:47 AM
Part of your coaching standards involve how they interact with Craig Sager?

Why not? He wants to replace a proven coach with a commentator, with no coaching expierence. Thats Tjastal at his finest tbh.

TJastal
01-30-2012, 01:51 AM
Why not? He wants to replace a proven coach with a commentator, with no coaching expierence. Thats Tjastal at his finest tbh.

So you're saying Sean Elli0t's only knowledge is in commentary, and that he doesn't have any basketball knowledge to speak of that would make him a good coaching candidate?

Schtickk you can't be that completely stupid. Can you?

baseline bum
01-30-2012, 01:52 AM
I hope Artest is the Spurs next coach so they can tank like hell once Tim & Manu retire.

ElNono
01-30-2012, 01:57 AM
Don Nelson? If you can have the real thing, why settle with the imitation? :lol

jjktkk
01-30-2012, 02:00 AM
So you're saying Sean Elli0t's only knowledge is in commentary, and that he doesn't have any basketball knowledge to speak of that would make him a good coaching candidate?

Schtickk you can't be that completely stupid. Can you?

Speak english much? COACHING EXPIERENCE dipshit. Does every former NBA player have basketball knowledge?

TJastal
01-30-2012, 02:01 AM
Don Nelson? If you can have the real thing, why settle with the imitation? :lol

:rollin

TJastal
01-30-2012, 02:10 AM
Speak english much? COACHING EXPIERENCE dipshit. Does every former NBA player have basketball knowledge?

Schtickk

Look across the nba, at least half the coaches I'd estimate were former players. You have Avery fucking Johnson still coaching. Every one of them got a start somewhere. Learn something.

jjktkk
01-30-2012, 02:13 AM
Learn something.

Ice009
01-30-2012, 02:18 AM
Quote from the Mavs coach on Pop about him leaving the bench players in there for the last 19 minutes of the game :

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2012/01/29/spurs%E2%80%99-anderson-shows-his-stuff/
“I’m not surprised at all,” Carlisle said. “I think he’s the greatest coach ever in this game. All their guys function in their system at a high level. (Gary) Neal isn’t a point guard, but he was in there making point guard-type plays and hitting shots. They were executing like crazy.”

jjktkk
01-30-2012, 02:21 AM
Quote from the Mavs coach on Pop about him leaving the bench players in there for the last 19 minutes of the game :

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2012/01/29/spurs%E2%80%99-anderson-shows-his-stuff/
“I’m not surprised at all,” Carlisle said. “I think he’s the greatest coach ever in this game. All their guys function in their system at a high level. (Gary) Neal isn’t a point guard, but he was in there making point guard-type plays and hitting shots. They were executing like crazy.”

:wow

TJastal
01-30-2012, 02:25 AM
So Gary Neal has one game of the year where he actually does an okay job handling the ball and all of a sudden Pop is the greatest coach ever.

LMAO

jjktkk
01-30-2012, 02:29 AM
So Gary Neal has one game of the year where he actually does an okay job handling the ball and all of a sudden Pop is the greatest coach ever.

LMAO

Hmmm, whose opinion should I value more? Carlise, or Tjastal? Damn this is hard one to choose. :lol

Ice009
01-30-2012, 02:30 AM
LOL Rick Carlisle is NOT helping us out at all with that kind of BS talk.

SA210
01-30-2012, 02:34 AM
I would love to see Sean Elli0t as coach of the spurs. I think with with his basketball acumen and personality he would be a much better coach and people would see just how good the spurs should have been all these years. As well as giving better interviews and being a much better rep of the spurs franchise.

Also been loving the job Scott Skiles has done in Milwaukee too. Year after year he shows that he can squeeze a helluva lot out very little. I can only imagine what he could do with a better team. I'd replace Pop in a heartbeat with Skiles.

At least Sean as an assistant, definitely.

Sean Cagney
01-30-2012, 02:34 AM
LOL Rick Carlisle is NOT helping us out at all with that kind of BS talk.

LOL POP will buy it now Ice and play him more at PG and Bonner more in the clutch hahahhaa.

SA210
01-30-2012, 02:35 AM
Don Nelson? If you can have the real thing, why settle with the imitation? :lol

:lol

TJastal
01-30-2012, 02:44 AM
LOL POP will buy it now Ice and play him more at PG and Bonner more in the clutch hahahhaa.

It wouldn't surprise me at all that the clever Carlislile deliberately gave an interstate rival false praises in a cunning attempt at deception. Of course, Pop probably is drinking his wine and feeling vindicated at this very moment.

jjktkk
01-30-2012, 02:48 AM
It wouldn't surprise me at all that the clever Carlislile deliberately gave an interstate rival false praises in a cunning attempt at deception. Of course, Pop probably is drinking his wine and feeling vindicated at this very moment.

You might check around the league, do alittle research about Pop's reputation as a coach. Pop's only a idiot on ST. But what do NBA people know about good coaches? :lol

therealtruth
01-30-2012, 02:49 AM
I think the first act by any coach would be to cut Matt Bonner.

TJastal
01-30-2012, 02:55 AM
You might check around the league, do alittle research about Pop's reputation as a coach. Pop's only a idiot on ST. But what do NBA people know about good coaches? :lol

Schtickk

It's well documented nobody questions Pop in the local media if they value their jobs. As for the national media, who cares.

Anyhow, I look forward to your next boneheaded thread "Gary Neal should be the backup point guard, Carlslile says so!".

jjktkk
01-30-2012, 03:06 AM
Schtickk

It's well documented nobody questions Pop in the local media if they value their jobs. As for the national media, who cares.

Anyhow, I look forward to your next boneheaded thread "Gary Neal should be the backup point guard, Carlslile says so!".

What year was your last level of education Jethro? Please tell me it was 5th grade, I would understand and actually feel sorry for your dumbass. Quote from Carlisle, "(Gary) Neal isn’t a point guard, but he was in there making point guard-type plays and hitting shots." Do you know what the word isn't means?

ElNono
01-30-2012, 03:08 AM
Pop sure looked a heck of a lot better when Tim was on his prime...

mercos
01-30-2012, 03:09 AM
I don't believe any coach could do a better job with this lineup. Right now we have two guys on the court who are playing relatively close to All Star level. The rest of the guys are bench/role players. Pop is doing a great job considering the injuries. I believe he is the best coach in the league with Phil Jackson gone.

Pop has one coaching weakness that has been his Achilles heel for a long time and that is in regards to player management. He has been great at managing the minutes of his superstars, but he has failed the past few years by keeping talented players that could help us glued to the bench. Tiago Splitter is the obvious example here.

One only has to look back to last year and the extended minutes Bonner and Blair saw together to see Pop's weakness first hand. That front court got murdered nearly every time they played together. This year Blair has continued to flounder and yet Pop refuses to even give Malcolm Thomas a chance even though his college teammate (Leonard) has garnered major minutes with the team.

On Xs and Os, Pop is a genius. He is great at getting the most out of his players and getting them to play the game the right way. I honestly would not trade him for any other coach currently in the league. I will continue to question some of his substitutions, but the man has brought us four titles so I won't complain to much.

jjktkk
01-30-2012, 03:12 AM
Pop sure looked a heck of a lot better when Tim was on his prime...

Its funny how that works. Great players make great coaches.

mystargtr34
01-30-2012, 03:22 AM
Tbh there are 29 other coaches in the league who would not have wasted a skillful 7 footers rookie year riding the pine behind a 6'5 center, a 37 year old PF and a 3 point chucking pseudo 'power' forward.

TJastal
01-30-2012, 03:24 AM
What year was your last level of education Jethro? Please tell me it was 5th grade, I would understand and actually feel sorry for your dumbass. Quote from Carlisle, "(Gary) Neal isn’t a point guard, but he was in there making point guard-type plays and hitting shots." Do you know what the word isn't means?

Thanks for pointing out that Carlisle threw in a subtle jab on top of the deceptive comments afterward. Even more clever than i first thought. Subtly hinting of Pop's bufoonery.

I'm sure many (like you for instance) will not understand the subtle jabs here and instead actually believe he was being sincere. And I will brace for more of your sickening Pop loving instead.

jjktkk
01-30-2012, 03:28 AM
Thanks for pointing out that Carlisle threw in a subtle jab on top of the deceptive comments afterward. Even more clever than i first thought. Subtly hinting of Pop's bufoonery.

I'm sure many (like you for instance) will not understand the subtle jabs here and instead actually believe he was being sincere. And I will brace for more of your sickening Pop loving instead.

Lol, subtle jabs. Your a fucking rocket scientist, the skys the limit for you Jethro. :rollin

Ice009
01-30-2012, 03:29 AM
Don Nelson? If you can have the real thing, why settle with the imitation? :lol

Don Nelson once said that he would run 4 down every play if he had Tim Duncan.

TJastal
01-30-2012, 03:36 AM
Lol, subtle jabs. Your a fucking rocket scientist, the skys the limit for you Jethro. :rollin

Yes, subtle jabs. Why else would he bother to say "Gary Neal is not a point guard" Why schtikk, why.. please explain to us.

Of course he's placating Pop's ego and filling his head with air (not that Pop needs more of either, he's already in the stratosphere).

jjktkk
01-30-2012, 03:47 AM
Yes, subtle jabs. Why else would he bother to say "Gary Neal is not a point guard" Why schtikk, why.. please explain to us.

Of course he's placating Pop's ego and filling his head with air (not that Pop needs more of either, he's already in the stratosphere).

Explain to us? You mean you? Gary Neal is a shooting guard? Still following me? Any word I type to difficult to read? Would you like me to give you a link on his bio, maybe a link of the Spur's roster?

ChumpDumper
01-30-2012, 03:50 AM
So now Carlisle is dissing Pop?

lol

TJastal
01-30-2012, 03:52 AM
I see neither one of you clowns answered the question I posed.

ChumpDumper
01-30-2012, 03:53 AM
Why else would he bother to say "Gary Neal is not a point guard" Because Gary Neal is not a point guard. And he was making point guard-type plays. Rick thought that was noteworthy.

mudyez
01-30-2012, 03:56 AM
my list:

end of list!

While the NFL is a QB+Coaches league, the NBA is a players league. Could Pop play Splitter more? Probably, but who are we, that we can judge on it, when Pop is seeing him every day, while we don't?
It's not like we are not in the playoff race or something.
Chill!

jjktkk
01-30-2012, 04:00 AM
I see neither one of you clowns answered the question I posed.

GARY NEAL IS A SHOOTING GUARD. Does all caps help?

TJastal
01-30-2012, 04:02 AM
Because Gary Neal is not a point guard. And he was making point guard-type plays. Rick thought that was noteworthy.

:lmao "noteworthy"

Pop thought he might be a viable backup point guard this past summer. I think Rick might be aware of that, too. I suppose it's possible Rick C didn't and just added it for no real reason, other than it was "noteworthy".

LMAO right

ChumpDumper
01-30-2012, 04:05 AM
:lmao "noteworthy"

Pop thought he might be a viable backup point guard this past summer. I think Rick might be aware of that, too. I suppose it's possible Rick C didn't and just added it for no real reason, other than it was "noteworthy".

LMAO rightWhy the fuck would Rick be aware of that?

Do you think he reads SpursTalk? He's got his own team to coach, you know.

No really, do you know he's got stuff to do?

TJastal
01-30-2012, 04:07 AM
GARY NEAL IS A SHOOTING GUARD. Does all caps help?

Good work, schtikk! You're finally learning what positions the spurs players play! Next week the lesson will be what shooting guards do!

ChumpDumper
01-30-2012, 04:08 AM
Good work, schtikk! You're finally learning what positions the spurs players play! Next week the lesson will be what shooting guards do!So you agree with what Rick Carlisle said.

OK.

DeadlyDynasty
01-30-2012, 04:08 AM
Part of your coaching standards involve how they interact with Craig Sager?


Yup, it shouldn't be too much to expect the coach to conduct himself in a cordial and affable manner on the cameras when they are representing the team.

You know Pop would ream out any of his players if they acted like he does in the media. The hypocrite's act is growing old, and tired.

You were actually being serious about that?

TJastal
01-30-2012, 04:09 AM
Why the fuck would Rick be aware of that?

Do you think he reads SpursTalk? He's got his own team to coach, you know.

No really, do you know he's got stuff to do?

Uh, because it's his job to understand what is going on esp on a interstate rival team and doesn't need spurstalk. LMAO.

I'm also betting Rick C understands a helluva lot more about basketball than Pop.

ChumpDumper
01-30-2012, 04:09 AM
You were actually being serious about that?You have no idea.

ChumpDumper
01-30-2012, 04:10 AM
Uh, because it's his job to understand what is going on esp on a interstate rival team and doesn't need spurstalk. LMAO.No, seriously -- how do you think he knew about what Pop was thinking about Neal this summer?

Be specific.


I'm also betting Rick C understands a helluva lot more about basketball than Pop.So you respect his high opinion of Pop then.

OK.

DeadlyDynasty
01-30-2012, 04:11 AM
You have no idea.

I thought he was trolling me, tbh:lol

jjktkk
01-30-2012, 04:12 AM
You have no idea.

:lol

ChumpDumper
01-30-2012, 04:12 AM
I thought he was trolling me, tbh:lolYou know, he really must be. That's the only thing that makes sense.

TJastal
01-30-2012, 04:16 AM
No, seriously -- how do you think he knew about what Pop was thinking about Neal this summer?

Be specific.

So you respect his high opinion of Pop then.

OK.

It's his job to know his what is main rival is doing. I'm sure he has paid staff that keep him informed of what is going on in the spurs org. It's not like it's a big secret that Pop wanted to use Neal as a backup PG, it was highly publicized information that I'm sure he has access to.

Is this 20 questions or do you have some inane point you're trying to make?

ChumpDumper
01-30-2012, 04:19 AM
It's his job to know his what is main rival is doing. I'm sure he has paid staff that keep him informed of what is going on in the spurs org. It's not like it's a big secret that Pop wanted to use Neal as a backup PG, it was highly publicized information that I'm sure he has access to.

Is this 20 questions or do you have some inane point you're trying to make?My theory is he watched some tape of Neal actually playing point guard while Manu and For were out and concluded he's not a point guard.

I bet he didn't hear shit about it during the summer when nobody was doing anything.

Which do you think is more likely?

jjktkk
01-30-2012, 04:21 AM
It's his job to know his what is main rival is doing. I'm sure he has paid staff that keep him informed of what is going on in the spurs org. It's not like it's a big secret that Pop wanted to use Neal as a backup PG, it was highly publicized information that I'm sure he has access to.

Is this 20 questions or do you have some inane point you're trying to make?

Maybe not the brightest bulb on the xmas tree, not the sharpest tool in the shed, etc...

TJastal
01-30-2012, 04:27 AM
My theory is he watched some tape of Neal actually playing point guard while Manu and For were out and concluded he's not a point guard.

I bet he didn't hear shit about it during the summer when nobody was doing anything.

Which do you think is more likely?

I think its much more likely he knew that Pop was courting Neal for the role of backup point before Ford was signed. If you think Rick Carlsile lives in a vacuum and doesn't stay current of what's going on esp within his division rivals you are welcome to continue thinking that.

TJastal
01-30-2012, 04:28 AM
Maybe not the birghtest bulb on the xmas tree, not the sharpest tool in the shed, etc...

lol butthurt much?

ChumpDumper
01-30-2012, 04:30 AM
I think its much more likely he knew that Pop was courting Neal for the role of backup point before Ford was signed. If you think Rick Carlsile lives in a vacuum and doesn't stay current of what's going on esp within his division rivals you are welcome to continue thinking that.I'm sure he's reading your posts right now and is cursing you for figuring out his code.

jjktkk
01-30-2012, 04:36 AM
If you think Rick Carlsile lives in a vacuum and doesn't stay current of what's going on esp within his division rivals you are welcome to continue thinking that.

I'm going out on a limb here, but I believe Carlise when he says that Neal is not a point guard.

ChumpDumper
01-30-2012, 04:37 AM
I'm going out on a limb here, but I believe Carlise when he says that Neal is not a point guard.Yeah, but HE KNEW THAT THIS SUMMER AFTER READING MY POSTS! :madrun

TJastal
01-30-2012, 04:39 AM
I'm going out on a limb here, but I believe Carlise when he says that Neal is not a point guard.

lmao "noteworthy"

:lmao
:rollin
:lol

jjktkk
01-30-2012, 04:41 AM
Yeah, but HE KNEW THAT THIS SUMMER AFTER READING MY POSTS! :madrun

:lol

ChumpDumper
01-30-2012, 04:43 AM
:lmao "subtle jab"

:rollin "deceptive comments"

:lol "placating"

wildbill2u
01-30-2012, 10:55 AM
Don Nelson once said that he would run 4 down every play if he had Tim Duncan.

Yeah, but what year did he say that? Don't think he meant it to be a perpetual maxim.

manufan10
01-30-2012, 11:02 AM
If by some chance Pop was no longer around to coach this team I'd have to say Phil Jackson or Larry Brown. Other than that, I don't want anyone other than Pop.

wildbill2u
01-30-2012, 11:15 AM
I've been posting for some time that Pop is coaching his ass off, given the injury circumstances, and aging superstar, and the necessity bring the young guys into meaningful parts of the rotation on the fly with no preseason or practice time.

Pop is trying to get a feel for what the youngsters will give him later in the season and perhaps in the playoffs. This was an excellent time to test them in the clutch and to express some confidence in them.

Putting a tired, cold TP in at the finish might have won the game, but Pop won the youngster's hearts and souls. I bet they will listen to his coaching and run through walls for him now.

I think he's handling these young players masterfully. You can't knock a coach who has put so many youngsters in a position where they are playing to win a close game in OT against the NBA champs at home.

You don't expect to win every game away from home. At the beginning of the season you might have penciled this one in as a "probable loss" anyway. So this was a great loss.

Given all the above, there is no one I'd trust better than Pop to coach the Spurs this season.

acoelho1
01-30-2012, 11:33 AM
Although I don't always agree with Pop's rotations, I do think he is one of the best coaches in the league. I wouldn't think of replacing him but if I had to, it would probably be with Larry Brown since he is available. I would also take a hard look at Kevin Sampson (assistant at Houston) and Bill Laimbeer if I wanted to go younger.

lefty
01-30-2012, 11:37 AM
Pat Riley or Phil Jackson


- Because they wouldnt play Bonner
- And both Riles and KFC prefer size to small ball, so Splitter would see more minutes

dunkman
01-30-2012, 11:41 AM
Obviously none, as this roster was made for Pop's requirements. However Phil Jax would probably do a better job with the right roster for his system.

Trill Clinton
01-30-2012, 11:44 AM
nobody. I still think Pop is the best coach for the team.

silverblk mystix
01-30-2012, 06:22 PM
Year after year I keep hearing how Pop has lost it, and that he should be fired. I'm not exactly disagreeing with the majority here, but who would realistically do a better job with this team?

He manages minutes well, has the players' respect, and his teams are usually pretty disciplined. He's also rebuilding a team on the fly as his vets start to fade out.

Who out there could do a better job, in your opinion?

Current;

Nate McMillan
George Karl
Scott Brooks
Lionel Hollins
Tom Thibodeau
Rick Adelman

others

Van Gundy
Phil Jackson


I don't think any of those coaches would have given away Scola, Mahinmi and none of them would have kept Bonner much less play him more than Splitter, Gooden,Mahinmi,etc....

Keep sucking off Pop but I am telling you he is severely overrated.

Em-City
01-30-2012, 06:58 PM
Current;

Nate McMillan
George Karl
Scott Brooks
Lionel Hollins
Tom Thibodeau
Rick Adelman

others

Van Gundy
Phil Jackson



:nope

jjktkk
01-30-2012, 07:22 PM
Current;

Nate McMillan
George Karl
Scott Brooks
Lionel Hollins
Tom Thibodeau
Rick Adelman

others

Van Gundy
Phil Jackson


I don't think any of those coaches would have given away Scola, Mahinmi and none of them would have kept Bonner much less play him more than Splitter, Gooden,Mahinmi,etc....

Keep sucking off Pop but I am telling you he is severely overrated.

Lol, thinking Pop chose to give away Scola. Ever heard of the Spur's owner Peter Holt Einstein?

manufan10
01-30-2012, 07:49 PM
Current;

Nate McMillan
George Karl
Scott Brooks
Lionel Hollins
Tom Thibodeau
Rick Adelman

others

Van Gundy
Phil Jackson


I don't think any of those coaches would have given away Scola, Mahinmi and none of them would have kept Bonner much less play him more than Splitter, Gooden,Mahinmi,etc....

Keep sucking off Pop but I am telling you he is severely overrated.

Crappy list of coaches, tbh. There's a solid 3 in there, but that's about it.

:lol Pop is overrated, but you want some of those guys for head coach.

DeadlyDynasty
01-31-2012, 01:00 AM
Crappy list of coaches, tbh. There's a solid 3 in there, but that's about it.

:lol Pop is overrated, but you want some of those guys for head coach.

This.

Phenomanul
01-31-2012, 12:04 PM
Even if the dust hasn't settled, Pop is definitely the best coach for this team...

That said, it would be intriguing to see what someone like Jerry Sloan or Pat Riley (who does have experience managing aging superstars... err Kareem) would do with our current roster...

Spurs7794
01-31-2012, 12:27 PM
So let me get this straight. Rick Carlisle coached his team to an NBA championship last year. During a summer full of celebrations and uncertainty about the lockout, he learns that the Spurs are considering Gary Neal as a backup pg. Now, in this summer full of shit going on, this might be maybe the 403rd most pertinent news item for Rick Carlisle to concentrate on.

Rumors of the season being lost begin. Negotiations are going bad, it looks like we are having no season.

Then the season abruptly does begin and the Mavericks celebrate their championship. A highly emotional moment where the players and Carlisle reach the pinnacle of their careers. Then the Mavericks start off playing very poorly and Dirk in particular looks awful. Carlisle has got a lot of work to do to get them back on track.

Fastforward to Sunday's game and the Mavs take what seems like an insurmountable lead. The Mavs then proceed to nearly blow it all against the Spurs bench. In a highly emotional finish, the Mavs squeak by the Spurs, one of their most bitter rivals for the last decade. Lots to talk about, lots to analyze for the coaching staff.

TJastal, you're telling me and everyone on this board, that Rick Carlisle, when asked a question about Pop, throws a "subtle jab" at Pop by recalling an obscure piece of offseason background noise and his method is to use the sentence "Gary Neal is not a point guard"???? :lol:lol:lol

Hemotivo
01-31-2012, 12:55 PM
Pj carlesimo