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Spursfan092120
01-31-2012, 11:44 PM
per Trent Dilfer
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2011/story?id=7521145&_slug_=super-bowl-2012-ranking-top-40-quarterbacks-nfl&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl %2fplayoffs%2f2011%2fstory%3fid%3d7521145%26_slug_ %3dsuper-bowl-2012-ranking-top-40-quarterbacks-nfl

Hall of Fame Level:
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers
Drew Brees
Ben Roethlisberger

The Eli Zone:
Eli Manning

A Ring Away:
Phillip Rivers
Tony Romo
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Matthew Stafford
Jay Cutler
Matt Schaub

Mostly Good:
Cam Newton
Michael Vick
Andy Dalton
Josh Freeman
Carson Palmer
Matt Hasselbeck
Alex Smith

Could Go Either Way:
Mark Sanchez
Sam Bradford
Kevin Kolb
Matt Cassell
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Kyle Orton
Matt Moore

Short Leash:
Tim Tebow
Blaine Gabbert
Colt McCoy
Christian Ponder
Rex Grossman
Tavaris Jackson
Curtis Painter
John Beck

Intriguing Wild Cards:
Matt Flynn
Jake Locker
TJ Yates
John Skelton
Brian Hoyer

actually a pretty good list, imo

TIMMYtoZO
02-01-2012, 01:04 AM
:lmao@ Brees/Rodgers ahead of Elite The Eliminator Manning. Elite outplayed Rodgers and has 1 more ring than him while Brees can't win away from the dome in the postseason. Elite is better than Brady today, and Peyton is still a question mark. Big Ben?? Pffffffffffffffffffffft

dirk4mvp
02-01-2012, 08:53 AM
Fat Ben should easily be replaced with Eli.

DAF86
02-01-2012, 09:09 AM
If Vick wins a ring he gets into the HoF, tbh.

jgome21
02-01-2012, 09:10 AM
Fat Ben should easily be replaced with Eli.


I think both Big Ben and Eli are at the Hall of Fame level. Not a fan of Big Ben, but the guy is clutch if given an extra possession. Eli has now shown that he def belongs in that group as well.

DUNCANownsKOBE
02-01-2012, 09:11 AM
If Vick wins a ring he gets into the HoF, tbh.
If my uncle had a pussy, he'd be my aunt.

DUNCANownsKOBE
02-01-2012, 09:12 AM
:lol @ Vince Young not a top 40 QB

Canibspur
02-01-2012, 10:09 AM
:lmao@ Brees/Rodgers ahead of Elite The Eliminator Manning. Elite outplayed Rodgers and has 1 more ring than him while Brees can't win away from the dome in the postseason. Elite is better than Brady today, and Peyton is still a question mark. Big Ben?? Pffffffffffffffffffffft

Is this a prediction or can you really not count?

manufan10
02-01-2012, 10:10 AM
:lmao@ Brees/Rodgers ahead of Elite The Eliminator Manning. Elite outplayed Rodgers and has 1 more ring than him while Brees can't win away from the dome in the postseason. Elite is better than Brady today, and Peyton is still a question mark. Big Ben?? Pffffffffffffffffffffft

:lmao

He has to win on Sunday first.

JoeTait75
02-01-2012, 11:13 AM
Short Leash:
Tim Tebow
Blaine Gabbert
Colt McCoy
Christian Ponder
Rex Grossman
Tavaris Jackson
Curtis Painter
John Beck


:cryBut Colt has moxie! He's a gamer!:cry

HarlemHeat37
02-01-2012, 01:27 PM
If you asked me if I would trade Tebow for any of the QBs in the next two brackets, I would only accept Newton, Vick and Dalton, tbh..

jjktkk
02-01-2012, 02:47 PM
Fat Ben should easily be replaced with Eli.

Provided Manning wins this Sunday.

TIMMYtoZO
02-01-2012, 02:59 PM
Is this a prediction or can you really not count?

The giants are not losing Sunday. They are all locked in and are a much superior team than the patriots.

TIMMYtoZO
02-01-2012, 03:00 PM
:lmao

He has to win on Sunday first.

He will. Elite Manning is allergic to losing. This will be the start of a dynasty for the giants.

manufan10
02-01-2012, 03:40 PM
He will. Elite Manning is allergic to losing. This will be the start of a dynasty for the giants.

:lmao

I wonder if you said the same thing in '07.

dirk4mvp
02-01-2012, 04:56 PM
I think both Big Ben and Eli are at the Hall of Fame level. Not a fan of Big Ben, but the guy is clutch if given an extra possession. Eli has now shown that he def belongs in that group as well.

Using the clutch card in an argument against Eli isn't in the realm of discussion anymore considering Eli just had one of most clutch seasons we've ever seen at qb and the last time we saw Fat Ben with the ball in the clutch he looked like ass.

dougp
02-01-2012, 05:13 PM
Using the clutch card in an argument against Eli isn't in the realm of discussion anymore considering Eli just had one of most clutch seasons we've ever seen at qb and the last time we saw Fat Ben with the ball in the clutch he looked like ass.

Eli has had one season of some clutch plays vs. his entire career of ending the season for his team because of pressure when playing clutch. Last time you say Ben in the clutch, he was injured along with missing half his defense & starting RB.

dirk4mvp
02-01-2012, 05:16 PM
Thanks for informing me that injuries occur in football.

And plz don't act this is Eli's first season that he showed up in the clutch.

MavDynasty
02-01-2012, 07:12 PM
Sup j dub

DAF86
02-01-2012, 07:58 PM
If my uncle had a pussy, he'd be my aunt.

I meant he should have been in the "one ring away" level.

DAF86
02-01-2012, 08:03 PM
:lol @ Vince Young not a top 40 QB

Dilfer is a known Young hater. VY should be at least on the "short leash" list, and if you ask me I don't think any QB in the "could go either way" list is clearly better than him.

DeadlyDynasty
02-01-2012, 08:20 PM
Eli has had one season of some clutch plays vs. his entire career of ending the season for his team because of pressure when playing clutch. Last time you say Ben in the clutch, he was injured along with missing half his defense & starting RB.

Eli is clutch as fuck. You are a dumbass.

DUNCANownsKOBE
02-01-2012, 09:16 PM
if you ask me
No one was asking you

TIMMYtoZO
02-01-2012, 10:54 PM
Eli has had one season of some clutch plays vs. his entire career of ending the season for his team because of pressure when playing clutch. Last time you say Ben in the clutch, he was injured along with missing half his defense & starting RB.

:lmao:lmao:lmao Clearly this person doesn't watch football outside of his Cowboys.

BRHornet45
02-02-2012, 01:39 AM
If Vick wins a ring he gets into the HoF, tbh.

LMAO!

son I needed a good laugh. thanks

lol Vick in the HOF

Trill Clinton
02-02-2012, 04:25 PM
Can't lie, I was a Eli hater but I can't deny he is an elite QB. He deserves to be mentioned in the HOF category.

dirk4mvp
02-02-2012, 06:54 PM
Sup j dub


Sup T Mizzie

NewcastleKEG
02-02-2012, 07:03 PM
He will. Elite Manning is allergic to losing. This will be the start of a dynasty for the giants.
:lol

All the Niners have to do is replace their backup returner and they will beat your ass twice a year

You were 9-7 and had a good game against a very out of sync Packers team. Relax

DAF86
02-02-2012, 07:39 PM
No one was asking you

Badass response, tbh.

DAF86
02-02-2012, 07:44 PM
LMAO!

son I needed a good laugh. thanks

lol Vick in the HOF

If he wins a superbowl, he gets in, imho. Not saying he will though.

DUNCANownsKOBE
02-02-2012, 08:02 PM
It's a pretty stupid and worthless hypothetical. Mike Vick winning a superbowl would mean he isn't an inaccurate, undersized chimp brained slave who breaks a rib every other week drinking Hennessy on the sidelines. In other words, it would mean he's actually a better QB than he is.

DAF86
02-02-2012, 08:07 PM
That comment was just because of the "a ring away" name Dilfer gave to that list of QBs. If Vick wins a ring he gets into the HoF, therefore he should be on that list. Otherwise he should have given it a different name.

DUNCANownsKOBE
02-02-2012, 08:12 PM
He wasn't gonna put Vick in the "one ring away" category when Vick's only shot at ever winning a ring will be as a backup tbh.

Trent Dilfer was a superbowl QB so he knows not to do stuff like ignore your tight ends or throw into quadruple coverage which is prolly why he's so biased against the chimp QBs you love so much.

DeadlyDynasty
02-02-2012, 09:03 PM
:lolVick in the HOF

DUNCANownsKOBE
02-02-2012, 09:11 PM
I also don't get how Dilfer implied his "A ring away" category literally meant "A ring away from being in the hall of fame"....it seemed pretty obvious that what he meant was that those QBs are a ring away from being in the elite class of the NFL. It wasn't a literal usage of "Hall of Fame".

BUMP
02-02-2012, 09:30 PM
tbh if Joe Flacco wins a ring he's a first ballot HOFer

DUNCANownsKOBE
02-02-2012, 09:55 PM
If I win the next 3 superbowl MVP trophies I'm a first ballot HOFer

DAF86
02-03-2012, 08:22 AM
I also don't get how Dilfer implied his "A ring away" category literally meant "A ring away from being in the hall of fame"....it seemed pretty obvious that what he meant was that those QBs are a ring away from being in the elite class of the NFL. It wasn't a literal usage of "Hall of Fame".


per Trent Dilfer

Hall of Fame Level: ...

A Ring Away:


That's why I think he implied that.

Goran Dragic
02-03-2012, 08:25 AM
Then you're really retarded