Israel to bomb Iran this spring

[TDMVPDPOY]

http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/02/10303860-panetta-report-fuels-concerns-that-israel-will-attack-iran

By Robert Windrem
NBC News

Concerns that Israel will attack Iran in an attempt to prevent Tehran from developing nuclear weapons escalated Thursday when the Washington Post reported that Defense Secretary Leon Panetta believes there is a “strong likelihood” that Tel Aviv will launch such an offensive in April, May or June.

i hope no allied country steps in help either side, i wanna see someone put israel in its place, fck these morons always trying to start shit with neighboring countrys protecting their own values and shit whatever it is, at the expense of the international community especially allied forces lives. is a fkn israelite life more precious then a allied life? gtfo....

i wonder what the neighboring arab countries that all had a change of govt the last year are going to do, allied with the west?? allied with iran/syria? or stay put....remember those 2 countries did provide some sort of sanctuary for its people when they had mini civil unrest in their own countries....

then we also have the problem of china/russia ships parked outside iran, is israel going to go ahead and bomb iran??? if its a all out war between 2 countries only, i dont see any of the 2 countries using nukes against each other....

[NewcastleKEG]

Lose-Lose situation for America

They better get Israel in line or else we will be rightfully so blamed. We attacked Iraq because they MAYBE supplied terrorist and we OPENLY supply Israeli radicals.

[lefty]

2012 !

We are fucked

[cheguevara]

Israel can take care of herself.

USA needs to stay pretty put and watch the fireworks.

LMAO at Romney.Santorum.Gingrich wanna get a piece of that ass

[NewcastleKEG]

Israel can take care of herself.

USA needs to stay pretty put and watch the fireworks.

LMAO at Romney.Santorum.Gingrich wanna get a piece of that ass
Because of American $$$ & supplies

So you agree we deserve any backlash we get for this?

[cheguevara]

Israel got 300+ nukes bro.

don't matter how they got it.

USA needs to just watch the show.

[NewcastleKEG]

Israel got 300+ nukes bro.

don't matter how they got it.

USA needs to just watch the show.
Show as in another bullshit Israeli pre-emptive strike like the 7-days war?

That's fine but I want American history books to label 9/11 a Pre-Emptive strike as well

[TDMVPDPOY]

Because of American $$$ & supplies

So you agree we deserve any backlash we get for this?

american backing

so whats not to say iran is also gettin the backing of china/russia?...dont forget the martyrs in the middle east ready to die to kill something in israel...guerilla warfare will not benefit israel...all its doing is inviting terrorist wankers into their country, shift whatever is leftover from iraq/afghanistan to israel/iran conflict....

palestine is awaiting for the perfect opportunity for the uprising of its people...

then we have to go back to the convention of realigning the borders who gets what, then you see the face of the unhappy jew in the corner...you had it too good for so many years, yet you didnt know your role and be humble what you got, but you wanted to be the master instead of the dog...biting the hand that feeds you...you reap what you sow...

[NewcastleKEG]

Iran hasn't attacked anyone. If Israel attacks Iran then that's 2 Middle Eastern invasions in 10 years from the US/Israel duo.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Israel got 300+ nukes bro.

don't matter how they got it.

USA needs to just watch the show.

300 nukes, and what are you going to do with it, you do know the repercussions of using one...israel will bring hell upon itself after dropping one anywhere in iran...nothing beats having a mushroom cloud full of radiation in your backyard...

iran has nothing to lose, just like the vietcong who had shit all up north nothing to lose, they will sacrifice their country for the greater goal...turn iran into a wasteland, they will just settle somewhere else...

[mercos]

I think the Israelis should attack. Iran is clearly trying to get their hands on nuclear weapons. They have also made clear that they want to wipe Israel off the map. One can not expect Israel to stand pat while their neighbor develops the capability to destroy them.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I think the Israelis should attack. Iran is clearly trying to get their hands on nuclear weapons. They have also made clear that they want to wipe Israel off the map. One can not expect Israel to stand pat while their neighbor develops the capability to destroy them.

iran been saying that since the early 90s, and still havnt done shit....

i can see israel going against the rules and start targeting oil rigs, double standards?

[NewcastleKEG]

I think the Israelis should attack. Iran is clearly trying to get their hands on nuclear weapons. They have also made clear that they want to wipe Israel off the map. One can not expect Israel to stand pat while their neighbor develops the capability to destroy them.
Do you agree with changing 9/11 from terrorist attack to pre-emptive strike by the Taliban?

[ggoose25]

this kinda shit is how world wars start. We should continue to carbomb their scientists

[NewcastleKEG]

Who the fk thought it was a good idea to let Israel have nukes?

So they can parade around threatening everyone

[Agloco]

Do you agree with changing 9/11 from terrorist attack to pre-emptive strike by the Taliban?

I see where you're attempting to go with this. Pre-emptive strikes usually involve military facilities though no? I'm not sure that you can call 9/11 anything but a terrorist act, no matter how isolationist you are.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I see where you're attempting to go with this. Pre-emptive strikes usually involve military facilities though no? I'm not sure that you can call 9/11 anything but a terrorist act, no matter how isolationist you are.

i doubt those terrorists even know how to fly a plane, let alone fold one out of paper...

[Jacob1983]

Just let Israel and Iran blow each other up and stay the fuck out of it.

[NewcastleKEG]

I see where you're attempting to go with this. Pre-emptive strikes usually involve military facilities though no? I'm not sure that you can call 9/11 anything but a terrorist act, no matter how isolationist you are.
In the 6-days War the first strike was taken by Israel and I believe they blew up the entire Egypt Air Force with the strike

:lol

[cheguevara]

Just let Israel and Iran blow each other up and stay the fuck out of it.

Amen. or whaterver the fuck Jews say

[TDMVPDPOY]

how is america going to stay out of it,

when you have zionists in parliament who will vote for it....

[mercos]

Do you agree with changing 9/11 from terrorist attack to pre-emptive strike by the Taliban?


No, because the Taliban did not orchestrate 9/11. Al Queda did. Furthermore, if the Taliban would have handed over Osama Bin Laden we would not have invaded them. Prior to the debacle we were actually friendly with the Taliban. You could call the attack a preemptive strike from Al Queda if you wish, but you should note they would not make that claim. They claim the attack was in response to our presence in the middle east and our support of Israel.

Your comparison is fatally flawed. The government of Iran wants Israel destroyed, not a terrorist group within Iran. Their president made those statements. This is a matter of public record. When you openly state in the digital age that you want to wipe a country off the map, people take notice. And if said statements are about Israel, they do not just take notice, they take action.

[TDMVPDPOY]

No, because the Taliban did not orchestrate 9/11. Al Queda did. Furthermore, if the Taliban would have handed over Osama Bin Laden we would not have invaded them. Prior to the debacle we were actually friendly with the Taliban. You could call the attack a preemptive strike from Al Queda if you wish, but you should note they would not make that claim. They claim the attack was in response to our presence in the middle east and our support of Israel.



the war on terror, the war in afghanistan didnt solve shit or whatever it is america wanted to solve....the puppet govt in afghanistan will be overthrown when america pulls out....dunno why the coalition even went into there just to hunt one guy when the guy was living it up in pakistan...

if you say america solved its objectives and won the war, then you fail....the 16trillion debt says otherwise

[NewcastleKEG]

how is america going to stay out of it,

when you have zionists in parliament who will vote for it....
Smart man.

You have politicians forced by their lobbyist too

[TDMVPDPOY]

look for the UN to do shit all when it comes to punishing those held responsible if its israel.....

[mercos]

the war on terror, the war in afghanistan didnt solve shit or whatever it is america wanted to solve....the puppet govt in afghanistan will be overthrown when america pulls out....dunno why the coalition even went into there just to hunt one guy when the guy was living it up in pakistan...

if you say america solved its objectives and won the war, then you fail....the 16trillion debt says otherwise

Never said we solved our objectives. I also don't believe in a "war on terrorism". Don't get me started on how the war in Afghanistan was run. If only Obama was president back then Osama would have been killed a week after 9/11 and that would have been the end of it. And the $16 trillion was not caused solely by the "war on terror". The Bush tax cuts should at least get equal blame for that debacle.

[NewcastleKEG]

No, because the Taliban did not orchestrate 9/11. Al Queda did. Furthermore, if the Taliban would have handed over Osama Bin Laden we would not have invaded them. Prior to the debacle we were actually friendly with the Taliban. You could call the attack a preemptive strike from Al Queda if you wish, but you should note they would not make that claim. They claim the attack was in response to our presence in the middle east and our support of Israel.

Your comparison is fatally flawed. The government of Iran wants Israel destroyed, not a terrorist group within Iran. Their president made those statements. This is a matter of public record. When you openly state in the digital age that you want to wipe a country off the map, people take notice. And if said statements are about Israel, they do not just take notice, they take action.
I hear what you are saying & definitely think it's the ole whose ever shades your viewing it from.

I think the line of per-emptive strikes is a very dangerous one. You cannot attack nations based on rumors & threats made in the past. Isn't the Cuban Missile Crisis the old lesson?

I would greatly fear for my life in the United States if Israel attacked Iran. I think we would rightfully be included in the blame & outrage.

Bottomline: Iran is respected old nation in the ME. We tried fucking with their government in the past with the Coup and it backfired in our face. This is a sleeping giant, that is all talk right now dealing with their own inner issues. Ultimately when did North Korea or Iraq make a move on the US? That's 0-2 for Bush's Axis of Evil.

This isn't Iraq. 3-times the size & actual suicide/religious freaks

[TDMVPDPOY]

an all out war in the middle east doesnt benefit anyone unless you own oil stocks...

other then that most of american allies in the region are not equipped or have any form of missle defence systems if iran and its funded terrorist groups start spamming missles out of control....i see those neighboring allie countrys stayin put and doing nothing, just to protect their own interest then to make another enemy......

winning the war while gaining more arab haters? who will end up being terrorist who have nothing to lose will sacrificed their own life for the greater cause...so how is israeli going to win the next war if it becomes putting army personnel on the ground? hide behind coalition forces?

[angrydude]

lol we wouldn't have invaded Afghanistan if the taliban had handed bin laden over.

Just like we never blew Libya to shit because we were friends with Ghadaffi.

The govt. decided it was time to start blowing the shit out of the middle east. the rest was just details.

[cantthinkofanything]

2012 !

We are fucked

They just need to get it on. It's all coming anyway. Might as well push the first domino.

[TDMVPDPOY]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/irans-supreme-leader-warns-us-against-nuclear-strike/story-e6frf7lf-1226262330621

SUPREME leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has warned Washington that Iran would respond to any strikes on its nuclear program, saying the consequences would be "10 times more detrimental" for the US.

"In future too, we will support and help everyone who opposes the Zionist regime," he said. "The Zionist regime is a real cancerous tumor that should be cut and will be cut."

[TDMVPDPOY]

http://www.theage.com.au/world/new-iranian-missile-could-strike-us-20120203-1qxpp.html

IRAN is developing a missile capable of hitting the east coast of the US, according to an Israeli government minister, intensifying Western anxiety over the Tehran regime's nuclear ambitions.

stiring the pot of shit, nothing new here

[Spur_Fanatic]

Just let Israel and Iran blow each other up and stay the fuck out of it.

This. If they both go down, it's win-win for the rest of the world.

[lefty]

But seriously, it's not gonna happen

[DarkReign]

If Iran, a formal recognized government with a formal recognized standing Army, ever attacked the US, it would be their last action on this planet.

They may have balls and talk a big game, but I am quite sure the self-preservation instinct would prevail.

[JoeChalupa]

It is now just a matter of time.

[xrayzebra]

Lose-Lose situation for America

They better get Israel in line or else we will be rightfully so blamed. We attacked Iraq because they MAYBE supplied terrorist and we OPENLY supply Israeli radicals.

I thought Panetta did a pretty good job of doing that yesterday when
he made the announcement. I am sure at Obama's direction. Nothing
like letting the enemy know what is about the happen.

[clambake]

was yesterday the first day you heard about it?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Show as in another bullshit Israeli pre-emptive strike like the 7-days war?

8 days war

[Viva Las Espuelas]

In the 6-days War the first strike was taken by Israel and I believe they blew up the entire Egypt Air Force with the strike

:lol

Damn. It's losing days by each post!

Do you know how many countries were simultaneously threatening Israel at the time????

[clambake]

how many days?

[clambake]

what happened on day 4?

[Agloco]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Operation_Crossroads_Baker_Edit.jpg/800px-Operation_Crossroads_Baker_Edit.jpg

[Wild Cobra]

Must you use such a large graphic?

Couldn't you have used or made a reduced picture, and linked the larger one?

[Agloco]

Must you use such a large graphic?

Couldn't you have used or made a reduced picture, and linked the larger one?

My bad, didn't realize it was that large.

At any rate this was only a 23kt yield.

[Wild Cobra]

My bad, didn't realize it was that large.

At any rate this was only a 23kt yield.
Kind of small. I was in the military nuclear theater from 1986 to 1992. We did some pretty interesting computations of the probably blast areas, wind carrying radiation, etc. It wasn't real in depth, but enough to have some good intermediate knowledge.

The nuclear hardened radio equipment I was a "parts changer" on was pretty sweet stuff. One of the locations I worked on, we dubbed "the antenna farm." Here is one satellite shot:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/satellite%20view/RLPsatteliteview.jpg

[Wild Cobra]

Don't know if you know this, but you can link that larger graphic to the smaller. Use the (URL=link to large picture)(IMG)small picture(/IMG)(/URL)

[ and ] of course instead of ( and ).

That was a cool pic. You should put the link back.

[Spurs da champs]

Where is the proof that Iran is trying to get nuclear weapons? And even if they are who are we to say they can't, Israel has 300 nukes, Iran has 0. The real threat is Israel & the zionist fuck heads. We should just further isolate Israel, Obama should get tough & tell them don't do it or you're on your own. You'll see that they don't have the balls to attack Iran without the U.S holding their hands.

[NewcastleKEG]

Where is the proof that Iran is trying to get nuclear weapons? And even if they are who are we to say they can't, Israel has 300 nukes, Iran has 0. The real threat is Israel & the zionist fuck heads. We should just further isolate Israel, Obama should get tough & tell them don't do it or you're on your own. You'll see that they don't have the balls to attack Iran without the U.S holding their hands.
Europe agrees with this post 100%

[NewcastleKEG]

Damn. It's losing days by each post!

Do you know how many countries were simultaneously threatening Israel at the time????
Doesn't change the fact Israel started the war.

Just because we teach bullshit flawed history in this country, doesn't change the reality or perspective from the rest of the world

[Agloco]

Where is the proof that Iran is trying to get nuclear weapons? And even if they are who are we to say they can't, Israel has 300 nukes, Iran has 0.


Europe agrees with this post 100%

I'll be happy to answer specific questions should they arise.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5520637&postcount=62

[Spurs da champs]

I'll be happy to answer specific questions should they arise.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5520637&postcount=62


"44. While some of the activities identified in the Annex have civilian as well as military applications,"

And if it was completely certain that Iran was making nukes, the IAEA wouldn't have went back, now would they?

[TDMVPDPOY]

i can see iran bombing american bases in the gulf, but to actually fight or bring the war to american soil? no....they can keep on dreaming, they dont even have a large enough navy or some form of transportation to carry their forces across the ocean to carry out such attack....

lol last nights UN council meeting in regards to the syria fiasco, good job on russia and china veto whatever the west wanted......htf can u justify a ethnic group or small population of minorities against a whole, to overthrow a govt? lmao those idiots are a fail.....

[Agloco]

"44. While some of the activities identified in the Annex have civilian as well as military applications,"

Some of the activities in the annex do have civilian applications. Your point?



And if it was completely certain that Iran was making nukes, the IAEA wouldn't have went back, now would they?

They returned at Irans behest. Presumably Iran is interested in having the UN sanctions lifted.

[Spurs da champs]

Some of the activities in the annex do have civilian applications. Your point?
It's foolish to assume that they're not, that's my point. The IAEA is just making an assumption that they're making a bomb, that doesn't mean that they are.



They returned at Irans behest. Presumably Iran is interested in having the UN sanctions lifted.

Well couldn't you also say Iran is allowing them back to just prove that they're program is peaceful?

This is intersting btw it claims the IAEA is biased. (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209877.html)

[TDMVPDPOY]

israel also sayin iran has a bomb that can travel 10,000km, are they misguiding USA on the capabilities of irans bomb traveling that distance to their recent space programs launchin stupid shit into orbit is different then launchin a bomb 10000km with direct accuracy to land in america...

if iran does have a nuke, dont really see them using it on israel, it will also come at the expense of palestine...since iran has no beef with palestine, but for the greater goal will they?


israels population 7.8m...iran 78m...yeh good luck

[m>s]

and hillary is going there to mediate the whole shit b4 iran can react, the yids are smart as fuck and they ain't never ending up on the losing side tbh

[TDMVPDPOY]

israel has 300 nukes....what is the purpose of having so much nukes if you aint going to use it

if theres a war in the ME, whats turkeys stance? since they are considered the 2nd strongest country in that ME region whose ties with the coalition has been soured over the last 2 years

[Agloco]

It's foolish to assume that they're not, that's my point.

And we stated as much in the report........thanks for rehashing that self-evident bit of information.


The IAEA is just making an assumption that they're making a bomb, that doesn't mean that they are.

You didn't read the report. There's plenty of hard evidence. The entire annex deals with this. You also omitted part of point 44 (which I decided to give you a pass on), but will call you out on now.

Your quote:


"44. While some of the activities identified in the Annex have civilian as well as military applications,"

The actual passage:


44. While some of the activities identified in the Annex have civilian as well as military applications,
others are specific to nuclear weapons.

You left out the portion in red. While I'm sure this was simply an oversight on your part, it does change the context somewhat no?


Well couldn't you also say Iran is allowing them back to just prove that they're program is peaceful?

Good catch. That's exactly what they're doing. I hope they are able to conclusively demonstrate the peaceful intent behind running thousands of centrifuges around the clock and enriching their uranium stockpiles to weapons grade.



This is intersting btw it claims the IAEA is biased. (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/209877.html)

I fail to see whats so interesting about an Iranian television network that considers the IAEA biased. Enlighten us please.

[Spurs da champs]

And we stated as much in the report........thanks for rehashing that self-evident bit of information.



You didn't read the report. There's plenty of hard evidence. The entire annex deals with this. You also omitted part of point 44 (which I decided to give you a pass on), but will call you out on now.
It's all conjecture, where's the hard line evidence?








You left out the portion in red. While I'm sure this was simply an oversight on your part, it does change the context somewhat no?
Again I ask for the concrete evidence, it's mainly just assumption, if they were mainly sure that Iran was making an atomic weapon, they wouldn't have returned & Iran wouldn't allow them back.







I fail to see whats so interesting about an Iranian television network that considers the IAEA biased. Enlighten us please.
The guy who is giving the criticism Hisham Jaber who is the director of the Middle East Center for Public relations & studies, so he in all likely hood has a unbiased view, he's also Lebanese who's also educated in the U.S & France. So come up with something better then an Iranian newtork being biased.:sleep

[Spur_Fanatic]

WC is an idiot, but he is right about Press TV.

Don't trust a word they way. I still remember how they aired that "confession" from this Newsweek dude, even though they they knew the guy was tortured and forced to say whatever they wanted, so he could leave Iran. When confronted, they said the Newsweek dude in question was a M16 agent.

[Agloco]

It's all conjecture, where's the hard line evidence?

Again I ask for the concrete evidence, it's mainly just assumption, if they were mainly sure that Iran was making an atomic weapon, they wouldn't have returned & Iran wouldn't allow them back.

First I'd like to thank you for once again not reading the report. smh

The relevant passages are outlined in the link my OP. If you don't understand the implications of running thousands of centrifuges night and day, enriching uranium past 10%, and investigating miniaturized detonators, perhaps you should just say so. There's no shame in that, it's technical stuff.

Secondly, I've already pointed out that Iran asked for the inspectors to return. I also pointed out a likely cause for Irans willingness to do so. Why would or should we ignore a gesture on Irans part which suggests that they are willing to talk vs going ahead with building a weapon?


The guy who is giving the criticism Hisham Jaber who is the director of the Middle East Center for Public relations & studies, so he in all likely hood has a unbiased view, he's also Lebanese who's also educated in the U.S & France. So come up with something better then an Iranian newtork being biased.:sleep


The director of the Middle East Center for Public relations couldn't possibly have a biased agenda. :rolleyes He's also Lebansese? Educated in the US and France? Well that clinches things now doesn't it?

:lol

[Oh, Gee!!]

obama aids in some way and keeps the pro-Israeli crowd pacified through the 2012 election cycle. obama wins in 2012.

[Jacob1983]

Why can't America just admit what a lot of people think about America and say that they love Jews and hate Palestinians and pretty much Muslims in general?

America is butt buddies with Israel because of money and they don't want to be anti-semitic.

[Wild Cobra]

Why can't America just admit what a lot of people think about America and say that they love Jews and hate Palestinians and pretty much Muslims in general?

America is butt buddies with Israel because of money and they don't want to be anti-semitic.
Well, I disagree with your assessment, but to each his own.

I don't dislike Muslims. I dislike the militant ones who want to destroy anyone who isn't Muslim.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Why can't America just admit what a lot of people think about America and say that they love Jews and hate Palestinians and pretty much Muslims in general?

America is butt buddies with Israel because of money and they don't want to be anti-semitic.

i dunno what money israel has paid back to america all these years, besides taking 3billion in foreign aid money from american each year....

[rascal]

Israel will start World War III.

They are worried they are going to be attacked so they attack first.
They know big brother USA will back them up if they get into trouble so they go around starting fights.

[Ghazi]

The nuclear program is NOT the issue. It is the fact that Iran is not a little bitch to the imperialists, along with its strategic value/location that is why Iran is deemed a "bad guy" by the Zionists and Americans.

WMD's in Iraq, terrorism in Afghanistan. it's all bullshit reasons to go to war, and yet people fall for it over and over again.

Anyway, Israel would be stupid to attack Iran. They would gain nothing and lose a lot, and probably lose a lot of credibility in the international community. Iran does not have a strong air force but has a slew of effective missiles, guerilla tactics, influence on oil prices, etc that would create headaches.

USA/Israel are actually confused about the Iran issue.

[TDMVPDPOY]

ppl aint going to war to fight for whatever bullshit our govts try to feed the ppl....

ppl goto war cause they need the money to bring the bread home...if that wasnt a last resort they be doing something else...

[Latarian Milton]

the yids be feared as shit now knowing iran been making nukes and are bout to get it done very soonly, therefore they know they need to bomb the shit out of iran b4 getting bombed on their own asses. Israel have the military power to defeat ANY country in the middle east and if other arab countries don't join the war & fight against the yids, Iran are FUCKED, not saying the fact the yids will have US on their side as always

[TDMVPDPOY]

the yids be feared as shit now knowing iran been making nukes and are bout to get it done very soonly, therefore they know they need to bomb the shit out of iran b4 getting bombed on their own asses. Israel have the military power to defeat ANY country in the middle east and if other arab countries don't join the war & fight against the yids, Iran are FUCKED, not saying the fact the yids will have US on their side as always
how many nukes do you think israel is going to drop b4 iranians stop fighting???

i doubt the international community will allow israel to use more then 1

[rascal]

How did Israel get so many Nukes in the first place?

With the help from big brother the USA.

[cheguevara]

LOL who's talking about nukes?

Israel has about twice as many planes that Iran, not to mention theirs are probably 5-10 years more advanced.

I'm pretty sure Israel could neutralize Iran's air force and defenses in about 2 weeks.

[Spur_Fanatic]

Probably less than 2 weeks. Much less, for if Israel attacks first, is a matter of hours.

But Israel would have no backers, no way to control Iran, nor to occupy it, even if only for a short while. They'd lose the little support they have, even in the US. No arab nation nor arab faction would help Israel, and the region would go back to the '60.

And Israel can't use nukes. If they do, they'd get the pariah treatment, like North Korea and Myanmar.

Best it could happen, for the rest of the world, is for Iran and Israel to kill each other in nuclear fire, but it won't happen.

[TDMVPDPOY]

israel can take out most of the utilities and infrastructure in iran,

but the majority of the fighting will be troops on the ground, thats where they are going to lose...

this war will only bring the terrorists and martyrs all over the middle east to one location and fight israel and the zionists...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

israel can take out most of the utilities and infrastructure in iran,

but the majority of the fighting will be troops on the ground, thats where they are going to lose...

this war will only bring the terrorists and martyrs all over the middle east to one location and fight israel and the zionists...

Sorry but they massed for a huge invasion in Syria and Egypt and because the Israeli's had air superiority and they just blew them up. Iran is not going to do much better by itself.

Had any of them thought they could mount a ground campaign against them at least one other Arab nation would have invaded them long since gone.

[Latarian Milton]

even if there breaks out a war in the middle east, it ain't lasting long. it'll be a blitz and the yids will win it guaranteed. countries are all tied together in the global economy and if a war last too long round the Persian bay which's the hub of oil exportation, we're all FUCKED

[SA210]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/432003_296395890421298_176094182451470_805809_1417 673332_n.jpg

[TDMVPDPOY]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/432003_296395890421298_176094182451470_805809_1417 673332_n.jpg

i dont see iran bombin those bases if those country allowed them to, then it will force those countries to play their hand...are you with them or against them....

the problem is the people, if they see their govt doing shit all or doing anything, they might stand up not agree with the actions their govt has taken