View Full Version : Spurs still have interest in J.R. Smith?
Kindergarten Cop
02-03-2012, 11:57 AM
I read this morning that the Spurs are a team that has "significant (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_kenyon_martin_nba_020212)" interest in him now that he is an UFA. While I think that there was a time, not that long ago in fact, that I would have loved this notion - I'm not sure I feel that way any more considering the emergence of some of our younger players. Could their really still be interest or is this another example of agents throwing the Spurs' name out there to drive up the demand?
DesignatedT
02-03-2012, 12:04 PM
link or bullshit
Kindergarten Cop
02-03-2012, 12:08 PM
link or bullshit
I put the link in the opening post on the word "significant".
Here it is:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_kenyon_martin_nba_020212
"Smith is an unrestricted free agent, and Chandler and Brooks are restricted free agents, likely to re-sign with Denver and Phoenix, respectively. Smith has significant interest around the NBA, including the Lakers, Knicks, Spurs and several more potential contenders."
Cant_Be_Faded
02-03-2012, 12:10 PM
This injured bench could use some extra fire power. spurs never get players like this, but it would be nice to sign and stash him in case more injures pile up, use him or.Chandler as depth like when Cuban signed Corey Brewer last season
His sister could also be the next Ms. San Antonio.
Muser
02-03-2012, 12:15 PM
No thanks, not even if he'd take the minimum.
Two10Whitey
02-03-2012, 12:17 PM
Hahaha I looked up his sister.. Girl is a beast whooping some Chinese ass.
DPG21920
02-03-2012, 12:47 PM
I'd def take him at the cost he'd have to accept.
I read this morning that the Spurs are a team that has "significant (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_kenyon_martin_nba_020212)" interest in him now that he is an UFA. While I think that there was a time, not that long ago in fact, that I would have loved this notion - I'm not sure I feel that way any more considering the emergence of some of our younger players. Could their really still be interest or is this another example of agents throwing the Spurs' name out there to drive up the demand?
I'd take a flier on him if we can afford it. He has skills at the wing that no one on the team outside of Manu has.
crc21209
02-03-2012, 01:28 PM
i'd def take him at the cost he'd have to accept.
+1
lefty
02-03-2012, 01:33 PM
lol San Antonio
lol nobody wants to go there
MR.SILVER&BLack
02-03-2012, 01:37 PM
even if spurs have more money to offer with the mini MLE he would make more from bonus money from the lakers or heat. he aint coming. either is wilson chandler.
Two10Whitey
02-03-2012, 01:39 PM
They're afraid of Pop. Seriously though, I've been to NYC, Chi, and LA. If I had money I'd be in one of those cities and it's a bonus that their teams are good. SA is a bit slower than those cities.
smrattler
02-03-2012, 01:40 PM
I've seen this movie before.
Spoiler: it was his secret Agent that threw in the Spurs name to drive up his commision.
smrattler
02-03-2012, 01:43 PM
They're afraid of Pop. Seriously though, I've been to NYC, Chi, and LA. If I had money I'd be in one of those cities and it's a bonus that their teams are good. SA is a bit slower than those cities.
NYC and L.A. are more attractive and popular cities to live in if you have money? S.A. is slower paced? I better write this down...
DPG21920
02-03-2012, 01:45 PM
Would be a big pick up for LA IMO.
lol San Antonio
lol nobody wants to go there
But we have a Six Flags AND a Sea World! :huh
Two10Whitey
02-03-2012, 01:52 PM
NYC and L.A. are more attractive and popular cities to live in if you have money? S.A. is slower paced? I better write this down...
Most people I talk to in SA won't agree. People think Fiesta and our shitty clubs makes this city a fun party spot.
TDMVPDPOY
02-03-2012, 01:54 PM
this clown is bad publicity
smrattler
02-03-2012, 02:01 PM
Most people I talk to in SA won't agree. People think Fiesta and our shitty clubs makes this city a fun party spot.
S.A. has a lot going for it. Not a bad place to live. Just not sexy and not a lot of variety like bigger cities.
dbestpro
02-03-2012, 02:04 PM
Signing Smith could open a trade with one of the wings along with a big to get a starting PFC for Blair.
ThaBigFundamental21
02-03-2012, 02:08 PM
He isn't coming to San Antonio, and it doesn't matter anyway. We aren't winning a Championship with our without him. There is no logic in wasting money bringing him in. People need to accept we aren't playing for anything other than pride this year. Next year when Timmy's deal is up and he re-signs for less money and Jefferson gets amnestied maybe we can land a game changer, the money will be there. Until then everyone needs to stop with these stupid posts. We are going nowhere this season. It's unrealistic to even imply and mediocre FA will put us over the top.
Two10Whitey
02-03-2012, 02:09 PM
S.A. has a lot going for it. Not a bad place to live. Just not sexy and not a lot of variety like bigger cities.
I agree. I like it here. Barbacoa and Spurs basketball.
Although I will always rep San Antonio as my birthplace and hometown, I still enjoy living in Austin much more. That's probably not much of a surprise coming from a guy in his mid-twenties, though.
Plus if I want to hit the fun stuff in SA like Fiesta or the Guadalupe, it's only an hour or so away.
purist
02-03-2012, 02:45 PM
lol San Antonio
lol nobody wants to go there
lol soccer. :lmao
Sobe_Kucks
02-03-2012, 02:45 PM
Most people I talk to in SA won't agree. People think Fiesta and our shitty clubs makes this city a fun party spot.
I find that qoute funny as hell! Being a professional athlete in LA or SA hmmmmm tough decision...
LA = VIP at the Viper Room and Spider Club with supermodels
SA = 2 for 1 tix at SeaWorld
:downspin:
Same song different verse, he ain't coming here.
G-Dawgg
02-03-2012, 02:50 PM
I'd take him if he'd come here!!! God knows that no free agents with any sort of talent want to sign here... So if we can get him to sign, why the hell not?!
...Now trading for him would be another story....
Two10Whitey
02-03-2012, 02:52 PM
I doubt we can get him to come here. And this isn't China.. His family ain't ready to take on a bunch of Mexicans at the At&t center.
maverick1948
02-03-2012, 02:54 PM
If people around the country only knew the celebrities who have homes in the San Antonio/Hill Country area, they would be completely lost for words. I live in the Hill Country just north of San Antonio and have several neighbors who have starred in a lot of movies(not pornos like in LA). Musicians live here and sometimes you go to a local club and get a treat when they show up and sit in on a jam session for the 1st hour of the night.
Not impressed with LA at all. I'll just visit my neighbors if I want to see a movie star or top chart singer.
lefty
02-03-2012, 03:02 PM
lol soccer. :lmao
Most popular sport in the World
lol SA :lol
Robz4000
02-03-2012, 03:04 PM
He's not coming here, he'll go to the Lakers. Book it.
SA is actually a great place to live. Isn't ridiculously heavy on the party scene, but it's still great. SA has a more rustic appeal to it.
Obstructed_View
02-03-2012, 03:34 PM
Trick by his agent. The Spurs wouldn't touch him.
Kindergarten Cop
02-03-2012, 04:04 PM
Trick by his agent. The Spurs wouldn't touch him.
Wasn't he literally minutes from being a Spur back in '06? IIRC, the Spurs had acquired him (or so they thought) in a trade involving Barry, but had just missed the deadline when filing the proper paperwork.
baseline bum
02-03-2012, 04:09 PM
Wasn't he literally minutes from being a Spur back in '06? IIRC, the Spurs had acquired him (or so they thought) in a trade involving Barry, but had just missed the deadline when filing the proper paperwork.
I'm glad RC dodged that bullet. Back in '06 Smith looked like a future all-star, and he easily had the talent to be that player. Six years in he is what he is; the potential is gone and there is no reason to get him now.
Mel_13
02-03-2012, 04:09 PM
Wasn't he literally minutes from being a Spur back in '06? IIRC, the Spurs had acquired him (or so they thought) in a trade involving Barry, but had just missed the deadline when filing the proper paperwork.
Yep.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35401
Mel_13
02-03-2012, 04:16 PM
lol Richards
TJastal
02-03-2012, 04:17 PM
They have had intrest in him for a while, but they never act on it. He would be a good fit. If we could add him and add Richards and an athletic 4 who can defend. Spurs could bring home another ring next year.
All that said my bet he signs with Bulls or Lakers.
Lakers is my bet.
Kindergarten Cop
02-03-2012, 04:17 PM
I'm glad RC dodged that bullet. Back in '06 Smith looked like a future all-star, and he easily had the talent to be that player. Six years in he is what he is; the potential is gone and there is no reason to get him now.
I would like to think that things would have turned out differently for J.R. had he joined the Spurs and spent some time being coached by San Antonio's staff and surrounded himself with players like Tim, Tony, and Manu.
The truth of the matter is that nobody will ever know - but with the way that Pop "falls for" certain players (i.e. Bonner, Finley, etc) and finds it hard to stray from that intrigue, one could surmise that he would still go after Smith if given the opportunity.
stephen jackson
02-03-2012, 04:19 PM
the spurs love smith for some reason.
Obstructed_View
02-03-2012, 04:51 PM
Wasn't he literally minutes from being a Spur back in '06? IIRC, the Spurs had acquired him (or so they thought) in a trade involving Barry, but had just missed the deadline when filing the proper paperwork.
Unless you're thinking the Spurs should look at Bobby Jackson and Michael Olowakandi, I regret to inform you that 2006 was a long time ago. A team's needs tend to change in six years.
mountainballer
02-03-2012, 05:04 PM
lol Richards
did he really say this? last time it was Blatche who will deliver us a ring. it's getting interesting. who will be the next. Thabeet? Ajinca? Hadaddi?
Kindergarten Cop
02-03-2012, 06:35 PM
Unless you're thinking the Spurs should look at Bobby Jackson and Michael Olowakandi, I regret to inform you that 2006 was a long time ago. A team's needs tend to change in six years.
You are 100% correct and by no means did I say that I thought they actually "should" sign J.R. (in fact, in my opening post I stated that it may not be good timing because of the depth and youth that we currently have at the position) - but I read into your comment as there was no way possible that the Spurs would ever consider him. You didn't imply that the Spurs didn't "need" him. You stated that the "Spurs would not touch him". I think that most would believe that this would be the case because of his attitude and work ethic - but there was a time where he was MORE of a head case and the Spurs were not only considering him, but actually thought that they had acquired him. Apparently that is not what you meant, so I apologize for the misunderstanding. :toast
But ..... did you really just compare the Spurs looking at J.R. Smith with the possible scouting of Bobby Jackson and Michael Olowakandi? :lol
tmtcsc
02-03-2012, 06:44 PM
They're afraid of Pop. Seriously though, I've been to NYC, Chi, and LA. If I had money I'd be in one of those cities and it's a bonus that their teams are good. SA is a bit slower than those cities.
You lost me at NYC. They suck.
tmtcsc
02-03-2012, 06:45 PM
the spurs love smith for some reason.
It's his ability and desire to shoot 3's from halfcourt with 15 secs on the shot clock.
Obstructed_View
02-03-2012, 08:02 PM
You are 100% correct and by no means did I say that I thought they actually "should" sign J.R. (in fact, in my opening post I stated that it may not be good timing because of the depth and youth that we currently have at the position) - but I read into your comment as there was no way possible that the Spurs would ever consider him. You didn't imply that the Spurs didn't "need" him. You stated that the "Spurs would not touch him". I think that most would believe that this would be the case because of his attitude and work ethic - but there was a time where he was MORE of a head case and the Spurs were not only considering him, but actually thought that they had acquired him. Apparently that is not what you meant, so I apologize for the misunderstanding. :toast
But ..... did you really just compare the Spurs looking at J.R. Smith with the possible scouting of Bobby Jackson and Michael Olowakandi? :lol
Kandi and Bobby Jackson were mentioned to indicate how much time has passed since the Spurs really wanted JR. I understand that they wanted him at one time; I was on board with it. He's got every bit the talent and ability that Kobe Bryant has without the work ethic or the drive to improve, so everyone can understand why you'd be interested in getting a guy like that into your organization at 21. He turns 27 this year, and still has time to turn it around, so I'm probably a bit premature in suggesting that there's no way the Spurs would have him on the team. Dude's got a longer track record of bad habits and poor decisions by now though.
Wild Cobra Kai
02-03-2012, 08:31 PM
Trick by his agent. The Spurs wouldn't touch him.
Yeah, I'm sure they're looking for adults, not someone who refuses to grow up. JR Smith is a complete waste of talent. He had enough to be the successor to Kobe, but he wasted it with attitude and laziness.
Kindergarten Cop
02-03-2012, 08:31 PM
Kandi and Bobby Jackson were mentioned to indicate how much time has passed since the Spurs really wanted JR. I understand that they wanted him at one time; I was on board with it. He's got every bit the talent and ability that Kobe Bryant has without the work ethic or the drive to improve, so everyone can understand why you'd be interested in getting a guy like that into your organization at 21. He turns 27 this year, and still has time to turn it around, so I'm probably a bit premature in suggesting that there's no way the Spurs would have him on the team. Dude's got a longer track record of bad habits and poor decisions by now though.
Fair enough. The optimist in me wants to believe that as he has gotten a bit older, he has matured (or will mature) as he begins to look back and reflect on his career. The timing part of it doesn't quite fit though, as both of us have alluded to in regards to the depth we have at his position. Ideally, I would like to see the Spurs bring him in and perhaps package a few players (perhaps Blair, Anderson, and Neal) for a decent 4/5. I don't expect that to happen, but I have seen crazier things.
Kindergarten Cop
02-03-2012, 08:44 PM
Yeah, I'm sure they're looking for adults, not someone who refuses to grow up. JR Smith is a complete waste of talent. He had enough to be the successor to Kobe, but he wasted it with attitude and laziness.
I don't disagree with the remarks regarding his laziness and poor attitude - but I think it's way too early to call him a waste or refer to him in the past tense as if his career was over. He is only 26 years old and is entering what most players would call their prime. Perhaps he just needs the right tutelage or leadership to help right the ship? I'm not saying that he definitely will mature, because he may end up being a knucklehead his entire career/life - but we've seen plenty of examples of players (or people in general) who evolve into mature adults after some self-reflection.
Wild Cobra Kai
02-03-2012, 08:49 PM
I don't disagree with the remarks regarding his laziness and poor attitude - but I think it's way too early to call him a waste or refer to him in the past tense as if his career was over. He is only 26 years old and is entering what most players would call their prime. Perhaps he just needs the right tutelage or leadership to help right the ship? I'm not saying that he definitely will mature, because he may end up being a knucklehead his entire career/life - but we've seen plenty of examples of players (or people in general) who evolve into mature adults after some self-reflection.
I've never seen anyone this bad in the league this long reform in any meaningful way. You point out that he's only 26, but coming into the league at 18, he should be way further along than he is. If he comes back and plays, this will be his ninth season in the league.
To grow up requires an accountability that few want to lay at the feet of a professional athlete. Most won't tolerate it.
DPG21920
02-03-2012, 08:59 PM
IMO of course the Spurs would want JR, but he's not coming here. Not because he's a knucklehead (although that plays a role) but you can tell that he wants to be in the spot light. He'll be a Knick IMO.
DPG21920
02-03-2012, 09:23 PM
Smith says the Knicks, Clippers, Lakers, Thunder and Bulls are among the teams he's considering joining once his season in China ends, according to NBA.com's Adam Zagoria.
That's a lot of teams named and none of them are the Spurs :lol
ducks
02-03-2012, 11:48 PM
get him trade manu for someone that can play not cheer
DPG21920
02-03-2012, 11:51 PM
He doesn't want to play here.
Wild Cobra Kai
02-04-2012, 12:03 AM
He doesn't want to play here.
...and I think that is mutual. He is quite clearly not "over himself" yet.
He doesn't want to play here.
he is afraid that pop will put him in the doghouse when he makes a dumb play.
Buddy Holly
02-04-2012, 12:15 AM
We do not need that turd or his troublesome family.
Brutalis
02-04-2012, 12:21 AM
Def don't want Smith. He is a self serving douche. One of the coulda-beens of the NBA. Attitude and thug won out though.
Spursfan092120
02-04-2012, 12:46 AM
get him trade manu for someone that can play not cheer
:lmao
Ducks, you're a dumbass.
therealtruth
02-04-2012, 12:56 AM
I'm glad they didn't trade him for Brent Barry in '07. He hit alot of huge 3's in the playoffs. Basically he was the anti-Bonner. If he was wide open you could count on him hitting that 3.
sasffl
02-04-2012, 01:36 AM
If trade JA for JR, agree
ZoParkerHill
02-04-2012, 02:53 AM
great dunker that's for sure, maybe we can finally finish all those alley-oop attempts lol
Obstructed_View
02-04-2012, 03:58 AM
I've never seen anyone this bad in the league this long reform in any meaningful way. You point out that he's only 26, but coming into the league at 18, he should be way further along than he is. If he comes back and plays, this will be his ninth season in the league.
To grow up requires an accountability that few want to lay at the feet of a professional athlete. Most won't tolerate it.
Good point. Some guys just never grow up. I remember Steve Francis and Cuttino Mobley always saying after a loss to the Spurs "we're a young team" and they continued to say that even when they were an older team than the Spurs.
Darkwaters
02-04-2012, 05:17 AM
. Smith has significant interest around the NBA, including the Lakers, Knicks, Spurs and several more potential contenders."
Seriously? They identified these three teams as contenders?
angelbelow
02-04-2012, 06:38 AM
Even with the "Still" in the title I thought this was a bump.
acoelho1
02-04-2012, 10:29 AM
I don't believe this rumor for a second. JRS doesn't have the discipline in his game to play in the Spurs system and can't see him playing under Pop. I seriously doubt the Spurs have interest in him and I'm sure the feeling is mutual.
TDMVPDPOY
02-04-2012, 11:41 AM
him and his entourage? lmao no thanks
DPG21920
02-17-2012, 09:31 PM
IMO of course the Spurs would want JR, but he's not coming here. Not because he's a knucklehead (although that plays a role) but you can tell that he wants to be in the spot light. He'll be a Knick IMO.
J.R. signing there isn't a big surprise. He got the most money and is in the spot light of the Garden. Would have been nice to get him to make a guy like Neal expendable (he still is for a big man, but this would have made it easier).
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