Chicago, IL.: Prosecutor on the hook for torture link

[Winehole23]

A prosecutor cannot get immunity from claims that he put an innocent man on death row by knowingly accepting a coerced confession, a federal judge ruled.
Ronald Kitchen, 43, spent half his life in prison, 13 of those years on death row, after confessing under duress to taking part in a quintuple murder.
He was questioned by former Chicago police detective Jon Burge, who was convicted (http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/01/25/33583.htm) in 2010 of lying about the torture of numerous black criminal suspects between the 1970s and 1980s to elicit forced confessions. Kitchen's conviction rested on his confession and the testimony of a witness, Willie Williams, who later admitted that he lied under oath.http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/02/06/43662.htm

[z0sa]

people from that grounded cruise ship sued for hundreds of millions of dollars because of their "psychological bruising" from a few dozen hours - I wonder how much psychological trauma 13 years on death row is worth.

[Winehole23]

No amount of money would ever be enough. Mr Kitchen had better win in court: not every state compensates the falsely accused.

[ElNono]

Terrible stuff... thanks for posting

[Spur_Fanatic]

people from that grounded cruise ship sued for hundreds of millions of dollars because of their "psychological bruising" from a few dozen hours - I wonder how much psychological trauma 13 years on death row is worth.

Very little. Stuff like this happened before, and they were given very little.
I'd be surprised he gets seven figures.

[Winehole23]

knock on?

http://www.vice.com/read/the-chicago-man-accusing-the-cops-of-raping-him-with-a-gun

[ChumpDumper]

people from that grounded cruise ship sued for hundreds of millions of dollars because of their "psychological bruising" from a few dozen hours - I wonder how much psychological trauma 13 years on death row is worth.A little over a million in Texas if all goes well, plus an annuity and a lot of education hours. Texas is surprisingly good about compensation, provided they don't kill you first.

[Winehole23]

Federal officials say they have two ex-Chicago area cops on record discussing a shocking torture and mutilation plan of a wealthy businessman they wanted to target for a real estate extortion plot.


According to the Wednesday court filing, Steven Mandell (formerly known as Steve Manning) and his accomplice, Gary Engel, discussed mutilating their victim's genitals (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-01-08/news/chi-prosecutors-excop-bantered-about-how-to-torture-victim-20140108_1_manning-and-engel-kidnapping-victim-steven-mandell) -- "like slicing a banana split" -- psychologically torturing him and draining him of his blood, the Tribune reports.


The FBI recording was from an October 2012 conversation between the two men as they traded ideas on how to torture their unnamed victim in what the Sun-Times called a "purpose-built killing chamber" (http://www.suntimes.com/news/24840656-418/feds-make-shocking-new-torture-allegations-against-former-chicago-cop.html)on the city's Northwest Side.
According to the Tribune, the men had planned to disguise themselves as federal marshals and then arrest the victim so they could torture him into handing over real estate before they killed him.


Both Mandell and Engel lost their jobs -- with the Chicago and Willow Springs, Ill. police forces, respectively -- in the 1980s after a similar extortion plot. According to CBS Chicago, Mandell had previously served 13 years on death row (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/10/26/two-former-cops-charged-in-extortion-murder-plot/)for the kidnap and murder of a truck company boss in 1990 but was released in 1998 when his case was overturned on appeal.


Mandell, 62, is set to go on trial next month (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2536526/Ex-cops-caught-tape-gleefully-plotting-going-mutilate-wealthy-victims-genitals-hed-hand-real-estate.html), the Daily Mail reports. Engel was found hanged in his prison cell shortly after the two men were arrested in 2012.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/09/steve-mandell-torture_n_4570429.html

[LnGrrrR]

Chump, that might indicate why Texas is so eager to put people on death row and get them "out the door", so to speak.

[Winehole23]

black site?


The Chicago (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/chicago) police department operates an off-the-books interrogation compound, rendering Americans unable to be found by family or attorneys while locked inside what lawyers say is the domestic equivalent of a CIA black site.


The facility, a nondescript warehouse on Chicago’s west side known as Homan Square, has long been the scene of secretive work by special police units. Interviews with local attorneys and one protester who spent the better part of a day shackled in Homan Square describe operations that deny access to basic constitutional rights.


Alleged police practices at Homan Square (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-homan-square-black-site), according to those familiar with the facility who spoke out to the Guardian after its investigation into Chicago police abuse (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/19/evidence-chicago-detective-richard-zuley), include:




Keeping arrestees out of official booking databases.
Beating by police, resulting in head wounds.
Shackling for prolonged periods.
Denying attorneys access to the “secure” facility.
Holding people without legal counsel for between 12 and 24 hours, including people as young as 15.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site

[Winehole23]

Gitmo connection?


A Chicago (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/chicago) detective who led one of the most shocking acts of torture ever conducted at Guantánamo Bay was responsible for implementing a disturbingly similar, years-long regime of brutality to elicit murder confessions from minority Americans.




In a dark foreshadowing of the United States’ post-9/11 descent into torture (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released), a Guardian investigation can reveal that Richard Zuley, a detective on Chicago’s north side from 1977 to 2007, repeatedly engaged in methods of interrogation resulting in at least one wrongful conviction and subsequent cases more recently thrown into doubt following allegations of abuse.
Zuley’s record suggests a continuum between police abuses in urban America and the wartime detention scandals that continue to do persistent damage to the reputation of the United States. Zuley’s tactics, which would be supercharged at Guantánamo when he took over the interrogation of a high-profile detainee as a US Navy reserve lieutenant, included:

• Shackling suspects to police-precinct walls through eyebolts for hours on end.
• Accusations of planting evidence when there was pressure for a high-profile murder conviction.
• Threats of harm to family members of those under interrogation used as leverage.
• Pressure on suspects to implicate themselves and others.
• Threats of being subject to the death penalty if suspects did not confess.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/18/guantanamo-torture-chicago-police-brutality

[Wild Cobra]

Sounds normal for Delta City.

[Winehole23]

so much for keeping Gitmo style justice @ Gitmo

[boutons_deux]

sounding more and more like police, sheriff, constable, deputy work attracts 1000s of sicko criminal sadists, murderers.

[angrydude]

lol @ cook county. "The Combine"

[boutons_deux]

lol @ cook county. "The Combine"

hardly limited to cook county. I bet other police/sheriff depts around the country have black sites for "enhanced interrogation". How long has the Cook Cty one existed before being exposed?

Of course, the more common police tactic is to beat the shit out of citizen, or shoot him, saying "resisted arrest", or "I thought he had a gun" which 99% of the time kills investigation.

[Wild Cobra]

hardly limited to cook county. I bet other police/sheriff depts around the country have black sites for "enhanced interrogation".
If you say so Mouse.

[Winehole23]

"There is one definition of arrest in the United States of America and that is the moment your individual liberty is restricted," Siska said. "The moment they slap cuffs on you, the clock starts running on the suspect's ability to access a phone, lawyer, and when they have to be arraigned. Any police interference with that is unconstitutional."http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/2/25/chicago-police-slammed-for-hidden-interrogations.html

[Winehole23]

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/27/chicago-abusive-confinment-homan-square

[Winehole23]

Chicago pays reparations to victims of police torture:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/04/14/chicago-to-pay-reparations-jon-burge-police-torture-victims/25766531/

[Winehole23]

Police officers under former Chicago police commander Jon Burge used electrical shock, burning and mock executions to elicit confessions from suspects, mostly African-American, from the early 1970s through the early 1990s.

The statute of limitations ran out on his alleged crimes, but Burge was convicted in 2010 of perjury in civil proceedings for lying about torture he oversaw.


Burge was released from prison to a halfway house in October after serving less than four years in prison. He was released from the halfway house earlier this year.


Burge still receives a pension for his years on the force.

same

[Winehole23]

No amount of money would ever be enough. Mr Kitchen had better win in court: not every state compensates the falsely accused.glad I was wrong about that. bully on Chicago for a change.

[Winehole23]

rightly afraid of more lawsuits, and putting the fear of prosecution in LEO participants in crime.

[Winehole23]

$5.5 million in reparations:
Chicago made history today as the first municipality in the United States to pass legislation providing reparations for victims of police torture. The landmark policy will allot financial compensation to the mostly African-American men tortured from 1972 to 1991 under Area 2 Commander John Burge and his infamous “midnight crew.”

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/chicago-to-pay-5-5-million-in-reparations-for-police-torture-victims-20150506#ixzz3ZPsY67kW

[Winehole23]

more on Homan Square:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/05/homan-square-chicago-thousands-detained

[Winehole23]

Chicago PD reaches agreement with ACLU on stop and frisk policy:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/08/07/chicago-police-agree-reform-stop-and-frisk/31277041/

[Winehole23]

if the Bundys want to strike against tyranny, occupying Homan Square would be a good start. of course, Homan Square isn't the abandoned gift shop of a remote bird sanctuary:


Police “disappeared” more than 7,000 people at an off-the-books interrogation warehouse in Chicago, nearly twice as many detentions as previously disclosed (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/05/homan-square-chicago-thousands-detained), the Guardian can now reveal.




From August 2004 to June 2015, nearly 6,000 of those held at the facility were black, which represents more than twice the proportion of the city’s population. But only 68 of those held were allowed access to attorneys or a public notice of their whereabouts, internal police records show.http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/19/homan-square-chicago-police-disappeared-thousands

[Winehole23]

it's much worse than that:



Yet the videos show police leading Perez, hands confined behind his back, through a door inside Homan marked “prisoner entrance”, suggesting a more routinized detention function than the police have described. Perez was never formally arrested: he was neither booked nor permitted legal counsel nor charged.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/may/14/homan-square-detainee-police-abuse

[Winehole23]

The other people who signed onto Perez’s lawsuit have also told their stories for the first time. Their further revelations, including confinement in fetid and humiliating conditions, now mark 17 first-hand accounts of detention at Homan Square since the Guardian began reporting on the warehouse in February. The most recent occurred fewer than three weeks before the initial report.


Jose Martinez is alleged to have been cuffed to a bench for nine hours before being booked at an actual police station in September 2011. He claims that he was shackled “without food, water or use of the restroom” in a “locked room that smelled like urine and feces”.


Two other individuals, Estephanie Martinez and Calvin Coffey, described relieving themselves while shackled in Homan Square interrogation rooms. Martinez, locked up in August 2006, was told by a guard that she did not have the key to Martinez’s handcuffs and could not take her to the bathroom. Coffey, taken to Homan Square on 6 February 2015 on suspicion of “narcotic activity”, defecated on the floor after two hours of fruitless requests for the bathroom. A police officer “made Calvin clean it up with his skull cap”, the lawsuit alleges.


Juanita Berry was with Coffey at the time of his detention and was taken with him to Homan Square. Handcuffed to a “ring or a bar on the wall” at Homan Square, the lawsuit alleges, officers told her to get them two handguns “or else they would charge her with aiding in the delivery of controlled substance”. After “several hours and many threats”, Berry agreed.


After Berry acquired a gun from an unspecified acquaintance, satisfied police allegedly drove her to a Dunkin’ Donuts and let her go without charge.


Berry’s account echoes that of a different Chicago man, not a party to the lawsuit, whom the Guardian has separately interviewed. The man, whom the Guardian has agreed to identify as Young OG so as not to risk his further police harassment, said Homan Square police kept him detained for nearly an entire day before he agreed to get them guns.


Young OG, a black man in his 30s, was picked up by masked police, guns drawn, after he stopped at a gas station with a friend in late 2013 for cigarettes. It was mid-morning and Young OG was confused over whether he was getting robbed or stopped by police.


“It was a real-life kidnapping,” he said.

[Winehole23]

more on the lawsuit: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/19/chicago-homan-square-police-abuse-lawsuit

[boutons_deux]

Segregation declines in Chicago, but city still ranks high, census data show

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-segregation-declines-neighborhoods-change-met-20160103-story.html

[Winehole23]

please GTFO.

you're not helping. quite the reverse.

[boutons_deux]

please GTFO.

you're not helping. quite the reverse.

GFY

the racism in the chi police force is in the context of the racist segregation in the city

[Winehole23]

thanks for using your words. it's much better to say what you mean than to just dump links mechanically.

[Winehole23]

thematically related, in New York:


https://theintercept.com/2016/02/05/mahdi-hashi-metropolitan-correctional-center-manhattan-guantanamo-pretrial-solitary-confinement/

[Winehole23]

The average length of time that defendants in federal terrorism prosecutions spend in solitary confinement prior to trial is 22 months, according to a 2014 report (http://www.hrw.org/reports/2014/07/21/illusion-justice-0) by Human Rights Watch and the Columbia Law School Human Rights Institute. Amnesty International has stated (http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/AMR51/029/2011/en/867a8f0e-9fd1-4dbf-a084-cfe644c774b0/amr510292011en.pdf) that pre-trial solitary confinement at the MCC amounts to “cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment.

[Winehole23]

At least one prisoner who has been held at both the MCC and Guantánamo has described the Manhattan jail as harsher. Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, who was convicted of involvement in the 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in East Africa, told (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/27/nyregion/27ghailani.html) his psychiatrist that Guantánamo is “more pleasant” and “more relaxed” than the isolation section at the MCC. At Guantánamo, he said, prisoners were not strip-searched and could associate together for recreational activities.


Joshua Dratel, an attorney who has represented clients at Guantánamo as well as the MCC, has also said (http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175316/tomgram%3A_chase_madar,_all-american_gitmo/) the New York jail is worse.

[boutons_deux]

widespread abuse of solitary confinement, esp for people just not charged, awaiting trial (if ever, charges often dropped after months, years of confinement) and often while not able to make bail, is blatantly unConstitutional but is fundamental to the self-loving Americans and their Christian hate-filled bullshit expressed as the "justice" system.

[boutons_deux]

slave state justice system, of course quite widespread

ACLU sues Orleans Public Defenders office over refusal of cases

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/01/aclu_sues_orleans_public_defen.html

[Winehole23]

Wrongful arrest, police torture and false confessions continue to cost Cook County millions:


Of the 29 wrongful conviction rulings involving false confessions in the United States in 2017, 13 were in Cook County, where the court system covers Chicago, according to the National Registry of Exonerations. Of the more than 260 false confession cases recorded since the registry began counting in 1989, about 25 percent have come from Cook County.http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/chicago_police_false_confessions

[Winehole23]

42 more convictions tossed, Chicago continues to pay out the nose for crooked cops:


Chicago’s troubled police force has been involved in series of scandals (https://apnews.com/d276ed349d3241fa9739a9b111ce476c) in recent decades and misconduct settlements, verdicts and legal fees that have cost the city more than $700 million in the last 15 or so years.https://apnews.com/bdc93401e5e242bfb833e4f74dc07293

[ElNono]

42 more convictions tossed, Chicago continues to pay out the nose for crooked cops:

https://apnews.com/bdc93401e5e242bfb833e4f74dc07293

Thanks Obama

[Spurtacular]

Thanks Obama

Well, he did give them their mayor.

[ElNono]

Well, he did give them their mayor.

I'm fairly confident the Mayor is an adult capable of making decisions for him/her self.

[Spurtacular]

I'm fairly confident the Mayor is an adult capable of making decisions for him/her self.

It's his prodigy. It reflects on Obama. That's fair, too.

[Pavlov]

It's his prodigy. It reflects on Obama. That's fair, too.You're trying to pin the police torture of black men in the 1970s and 80s on Barack Obama.

[Spurtacular]

You're trying to pin the police torture of black men in the 1970s and 80s on Barack Obama.

:lol Sociopath swooping in with a huge false narrative.
:lol Par

I'm starting to consider if you're even ultimately any better than cuck Blake at this.

[Pavlov]

Sociopath cuckBoring.

[Spurtacular]

Boring.

Coping mechanism.

[Blake]

:lol Sociopath swooping in with a huge false narrative.
:lol Par

I'm starting to consider if you're even ultimately any better than cuck Blake at this.

Oh another cry for attention

[Pavlov]

Sociopath cuck coping mechanismBoring.

So tell us, what are you blaming on Obama here?

Explain.

[Spurtacular]

Oh another cry for attention

:lol Cuck holding hard to the meme big brother gave him.

[Spurtacular]

Boring.

So tell us, what are you blaming on Obama here?

Explain.

I've put forth my thoughts. You're just looking to squabble about whatever little thing appears. Par.

[Pavlov]

I've put forth my thoughts.Not clearly.

What are you blaming Obama for here?

Step up.

[Spurtacular]

Not clearly.

What are you blaming Obama for here?

Step up.

It was clear.

Step down.

[Pavlov]

It was clear.Obviously it is not.

Did you read the article in the OP at all?

Yes or no.

[Blake]

:lol Cuck holding hard to the meme big brother gave him.

Stupid, you mentioned me. No meme about it.

[Spurtacular]

Stupid, you mentioned me. No meme about it.

I did mention you. Funny that you want to see it as a flirtation.

:lmao Today's cuck.
:lmao Chump making you look like an idiot (not that you need any help).

[Pavlov]

I did mention you. Funny that you want to see it as a flirtation.

:lmao Today's cuck.
:lmao Chump making you look like an idiot (not that you need any help).

lol crying out for Blake

[Spurtacular]

lol crying out for Blake

:lmao Still selling blake on your homosexual world.

[Pavlov]

:lmao Still selling blake on your homosexual world. You're the one soliciting.

[ElNono]

It's his prodigy. It reflects on Obama. That's fair, too.

I think we're talking about Rahm Emanuel, who was a US Representative even before Obama was in power. Obama might like him, but he had his own relatively successful political career before then.

If we gotta say anybody that worked with Barry is their prodigy, we gotta include Shillary, and we both know that's not the case. It's just disingenuous, and there's certainly plenty of criticism that can be levied on Obama on his own.

[Spurtacular]

I think we're talking about Rahm Emanuel, who was a US Representative even before Obama was in power. Obama might like him, but he had his own relatively successful political career before then.

If we gotta say anybody that worked with Barry is their prodigy, we gotta include Shillary, and we both know that's not the case. It's just disingenuous, and there's certainly plenty of criticism that can be levied on Obama on his own.

:lol Congressmen at the national level is not exactly a high place. Right hand man of the president on the other hand. Come on, son.

As for the Hillary stuff, you could argue the similarities all day to Obama. But she was always gonna be an autonomous force to a significant degree. Her deal for dropping out of the race in 08 was one term of secretary of state. It was a business arrangement.

[Spurtacular]

You're the one soliciting.

Not at all. Keep trying, sociopath.

[Pavlov]

Not at all. Keep trying, sociopath.You cry out for men day and night.

You can't deny it.

[Spurtacular]

You cry out for men day and night.

You can't deny it.

Your best buddies are cucks and trannies. Come to terms.

[ElNono]

:lol Congressmen at the national level is not exactly a high place. Right hand man of the president on the other hand. Come on, son.

As for the Hillary stuff, you could argue the similarities all day to Obama. But she was always gonna be an autonomous force to a significant degree. Her deal for dropping out of the race in 08 was one term of secretary of state. It was a business arrangement.

Really? Congressman is what Obama was before becoming POTUS. I mean, we're not talking school superintendent here...

[Pavlov]

Your best buddies are cucks and trannies.You cry out for them day and night.

Why?

[Spurtacular]

Really? Congressman is what Obama was before becoming POTUS. I mean, we're not talking school superintendent here...

Obama was a senator, dude.

[Spurtacular]

You cry out for them day and night.

Why?

It's called mentions, not cry outs. And you shouldn't gay shame; it's not helpful to your gay friends (Blake (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3460) and Reck (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412)) or even the positions you espouse. But sociopaths aren't worried about consistency; so, I'm sure you'll be none too bothered.

[Pavlov]

It's called mentions, not cry outs. And you shouldn't gay shameI'm proud of you for admitting you're into dudes and strive for their attention day and night.:tu

[Blake]

I did mention you. Funny that you want to see it as a flirtation.

:lmao Today's cuck.
:lmao Chump making you look like an idiot (not that you need any help).

Do you not understand how mentions work here?

Either you're really stupid or you're gay or you're an emo teenage girl pretending not to be flirting.

[Spurtacular]

Do you not understand how mentions work here?

Either you're really stupid or you're gay or you're an emo teenage girl pretending not to be flirting.

:lol Cuck babbling.

[Blake]

Derp gay.

[Blake]

Derp very gay.





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[Pavlov]

:lol that's compulsive behavior, derp.

[Spurtacular]

:lol that's compulsive behavior, derp.

You need to look up compulsive.

[Spurtacular]

Derp very gay.





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09-08-2018

03:38 AM - Spurtacular mentioned Blake in post Re: Twitter Perma-Bans Info Wars For Critizicing CNN

...f. :lmao Going cuck Blake fetal, too. :lmao Go...

01:36 AM - Spurtacular mentioned Blake in post Re: The Blake And Reck Thread

...vel" -- you're cuck Blake level ffs


09-06-2018

12:45 AM - Spurtacular mentioned Blake in post Re: Woodward Book: B O O M

...me-in. :lmao cuck Blake level posting

12:02 AM - Spurtacular mentioned Blake in post Re: Ozarks - new Netflix series

...hree are total cuck Blake level characters.


09-03-2018

10:28 AM - Spurtacular mentioned Blake in post Re: John McCain is doing Awesome thread

^^^ :lmao Cuck Blake posting gifs of his ...


09-02-2018

10:52 PM - Spurtacular mentioned Blake in post Re: The Blake And Reck Thread

... Bible expert/Cuck Blake :lmao

You know this only makes me :lol at all this when you post it, right?

[Blake]

You know this only makes me :lol at all this when you post it, right?

It makes me :lol :lol

You're so obsessed :lol :lol

[Winehole23]

y'all have ruined my thread, thanks

[ElNono]

Obama was a senator, dude.

It's the same thing: Congressman. Representatives go to the House, Senators to the Senate. I understand Senators have a slightly higher bar because it's a state-wide election, but for all intent and purposes both representatives in Congress.

[Pavlov]

You need to look up compulsive.
OK, tell me how many mentions you have made of Blake in the past month.

Post the number.

[Spurtacular]

It's the same thing: Congressman. Representatives go to the House, Senators to the Senate. I understand Senators have a slightly higher bar because it's a state-wide election, but for all intent and purposes both representatives in Congress.

Technically. But nobody calls senators Congressmen. They do call House reps Congressmen.

[Spurtacular]

OK, tell me how many mentions you have made of Blake in the past month.

Post the number.

That's not a compulsion. I can take it or leave it, mentioning him. But as it triggers you / tends to make points / amuses me, I do it.

[ElNono]

Well, we're getting into lexical arguments now. Congress is a bicameral unit. You can't have laws without both the Senate and the House. In the way government was set up in the Constitution, they have equal importance.

[Pavlov]

That's not a compulsion. I can take it or leave it, mentioning him. But as it triggers you / tends to make points / amuses me, I do it.Tell me how many mentions you have made of Blake in the past month.

Post the number.

You can take it or leave it and aren't at all ashamed of it, so post the number.

[boutons_deux]

Death Of Jon Burge: Commander Set Standard For Police Terror In Chicago

What happened with Burge is a microcosm of how society and government can allow authorities to torture their own citizens,

especially if thuggish elements can convince officials the ends justify the means

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2018/09/23/death-jon-burge-commander-set-standard-police-terror-chicago?cd-origin=rss

[RandomGuy]

It's his prodigy. It reflects on Obama. That's fair, too.

You're trying to pin the police torture of black men in the 1970s and 80s on Barack Obama.

:rollin

Fucking idiot. You really are that dumb.

[RandomGuy]

:lol that's compulsive behavior, derp.

Pretty much. 90% of my "mentions" have been Spurtaculars plaintive cries for attention.

[RandomGuy]

42 more convictions tossed, Chicago continues to pay out the nose for crooked cops:

https://apnews.com/bdc93401e5e242bfb833e4f74dc07293

Costs of poorly trained or out of control officers balloons past what it would have taken to just not have the problem in the first place. Yikes.

[Spurtacular]

You're trying to pin the police torture of black men in the 1970s and 80s on Barack Obama.

:rollin

Fucking idiot. You really are that dumb.

:lmao Copy/pasting chump's false narratives and posting them as if they're new.

[Pavlov]

:lmao Copy/pasting chump's false narratives and posting them as if they're new.So you're not blaming Obama for the torture in the 70s and 80s.

Why did you bring him up?

[Spurtacular]

So you're not blaming Obama for the torture in the 70s and 80s.

Why did you bring him up?

You're a really sloppy sociopath. We were talking about current Chicago issues, son.

[Pavlov]

You're a really sloppy sociopath. We were talking about current Chicago issues, son.No, this thread is about torture in the 70s and 80s.

If you're trying to change the subject to how much Black President triggers you, I completely understand.

[Spurtacular]

No, this thread is about torture in the 70s and 80s.

If you're trying to change the subject to how much Black President triggers you, I completely understand.

Not in the point I had replied to. In any event, your stupid question has been answered.

[Winehole23]

42 more convictions tossed, Chicago continues to pay out the nose for crooked cops:

https://apnews.com/bdc93401e5e242bfb833e4f74dc07293Once again, no discipline or criminal charges against cops who framed scores of innocent people.


83 people await potential exoneration in cases tied to disgraced former CPD sergeant Ronald Watts (https://www.wbez.org/stories/83-people-await-potential-exoneration-in-cases-tied-to-disgraced-former-cpd-sergeant-ronald-watts/79473cc6-9744-4d9f-96a5-dc457b03ae98)One hundred and fifteen people have had their convictions tied to Watts dismissed, but others are still waiting to clear their names.

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[RandomGuy]

Once again, no discipline or criminal charges against cops who framed scores of innocent people.


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Makes new york cops look like saints, tbh.

[Winehole23]

Two former Cook Co. prosecutors charged.

Super rare, almost never happens.

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[RandomGuy]

y'all have ruined my thread, thanks

THANKS OBAMA~!

[RandomGuy]

Two former Cook Co. prosecutors charged.

Super rare, almost never happens.

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... bends towards justice. good.

[Winehole23]

exonerations up to 42 for just this guy

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