Lakers @ Celtics

[djohn2oo8]

If anybody's watching...

[NewcastleKEG]

You would start the thread

SIT ON MY FKN FACE WHORE

[lefty]

Road jerseys at home ...

Im getting tired of that gay shit

[DeadlyDynasty]

The Giants have done irreversible damage to KEG's psyche...now he's just muttering shit to himself:lol

[HarlemHeat37]

That Gasol pass to Bynum was filthy..

[DeadlyDynasty]

Lakers haven't lost in Beantown (regular season) since 2008

[NewcastleKEG]

Every Celtics thread requires a ''WTF was Ainge thinking trading Perkins''

[ElNono]

Steve Blake is back?

[NewcastleKEG]

Kobe gets SO BITTER when Rondo guards him

[InRareForm]

steve blake lol

[lefty]

Tyron Lue sighting !

[NewcastleKEG]

This game just ain't quite the same without Perkins angry stare & Odom's empty look

[LnGrrrR]

Every Celtics thread requires a ''WTF was Ainge thinking trading Perkins''

:(

[NewcastleKEG]

:(
Mind blowing. LeBron scared Ainge that much he felt he needed Green.

[LnGrrrR]

Mind blowing. LeBron scared Ainge that much he felt he needed Green.

That trade was so bad, bostonguy stopped posting. :(

[NewcastleKEG]

That trade was so bad, bostonguy stopped posting. :(
:lol holy shit you serious?

I was kinda fooled to, while I didn't like the deal I felt Green might be a nice (young) piece in the coming years. But joining Boston and the slow tempo offense, he looked useless to me

[LnGrrrR]

bostonguy and I both hated the trade. Just look at his page, we both thought it stupid as fuck. And we were proven right, just like 80% of the other Celticfans.

[LnGrrrR]

KG isn't having a great quarter so far...

[NewcastleKEG]

bostonguy and I both hated the trade. Just look at his page, we both thought it stupid as fuck. And we were proven right, just like 80% of the other Celticfans.
I don't think anyone liked the deal but to think he would basically play 2 (?) months in a Boston jersey made the deal a historic failure

[baseline bum]

bostonguy and I both hated the trade. Just look at his page, we both thought it stupid as fuck. And we were proven right, just like 80% of the other Celticfans.

Amazing that Presti turned his biggest mistake into a starting center. Then again, his trade basically works out to Ray Allen for Perkins.

[MavDynasty]

I miss bostonguy :cry at least he left us a gem that is now framed in my sig

[Reck]

Wow I barely recognize this Lakers team. All white kids that cant shoot. :lol

LOL@ Blake. Dude is fucking useless.

[InRareForm]

WHen is bynum going to be good when he is doubled?

[InRareForm]

shadowflames who is that in your avatar?

[NewcastleKEG]

Wow I barely recognize this Lakers team. All white kids that cant shoot. :lol

LOL@ Blake. Dude is fucking useless.
Barnes is a mexi

[lefty]

Kobe bitching :lol

[InRareForm]

This game has ZERO athleticism

[baseline bum]

Wow, Artest was able to get that layup up and over the rim.

[Reck]

shadowflames who is that in your avatar?

Jossie

[djohn2oo8]

lol Kobe with the defense..

[pass1st]

Never thought it would be this boring to watch the Cs play LAL

[DAF86]

lol Bynum is like a little kid.

[InRareForm]

bynum 15 yard penalty, excessive celebration

[Banzai]

No way Boston trades rondo after that play.

[lefty]

Enough with Lakers-Celtics historic rivalry shit

Magic & Bird would wipe the floor with those pieces of shit

[Reck]

Gasol is such an overgrown fag.

Whayever he think he's doing chucking up 3s. lol

[baseline bum]

Enough with Lakers-Celtics historic rivalry shit

Magic & Bird would wipe the floor with those pieces of shit

Len Bias is rolling over in his grave.

[007nites]

Bynum has too much length

[Jelloisjigglin]

Mvpau

[007nites]

There's the length again

[Banzai]

Damn..I call ray or pierce..:-(

[Spur_Fanatic]

Gasol.

[baseline bum]

Did Mike Brown draw up the Celtics' play too?

[baseline bum]

The Celtics have an excuse to have 82 points since they're team TOSB, but the Lakers have none. This is like watching a Cleveland-Orlando matchup a couple of years ago.

[Reck]

Celtics are dead set on shooting 3s.

When did they become part of the Orlando Magic?

Horrible last play.

Now watch Kobe go ham on these dunces.

Never give Kobe a chance to rape..

[Killakobe81]

Like I said neither two are TRUE contenders as currently constructed ...

But this game is not the reson ... Even when these two teams were the best in the NBA they end up being slugfests ...

[mystargtr34]

Celtics needs to hire an offense coach.

[DAF86]

Bryant must be the guy with the most misses boarded by his teammates in the history of basketball.

Is that reasercheable?

[Reck]

Game!

[Spur_Fanatic]

Both teams should get an L for this game.

[Banzai]

Blake for 2!!

[lefty]

Len Bias is rolling over in his grave.

:lol

[DAF86]

lol Kobe keeps missing and his bigmen keep bailing him out.

[Banzai]

Bynum for 2!

[Killakobe81]

Mike Brown is gay ..I dont care wht Grant Hill or Jared dudley say ...

[DAF86]

Clank!

[Banzai]

Lol..pierce ftw I predict

[baseline bum]

Jermaine O'Neal is a moron passing that instead of calling timeout. Most overrated player ever.

[Killakobe81]

What kind of offense are these two running?

KG and kobe trading bricks, sure there is contact Kobe, but you HAVE to know there will be, with no foul. He HAS to be smarter than that. and what kind of shitty offensive plays are being called on BOTH ends?!

[baseline bum]

LOL Rocky music; this game should have the Benny Hill Theme played to it.

[Banzai]

Well I have been wrong before

[Jelloisjigglin]

Hell yes.

[Killakobe81]

Pau saved our ass ...

We need a freaking PG badly ...

[DAF86]

And the game ends with a Gasol block.

[lefty]

Gasol bails out Kobe
Again

[Killakobe81]

I dont care how ugly I LOVE beating those green wearing bastards and their fans ... Fuck 'em all except maybe Simmons and Lngrrr

[DPG21920]

LA bigs put up eye popping numbers on most nights.

[Giuseppe]

I thought Kerr was gonna cry.

tee, hee.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Kobe Bryant plays all but 5 minutes, leads his team in scoring and assists, and commits only 1 turnover all game.


Leadership.

[Reck]

It puzzles me hardcore style why these big men are posiotioning themselves beyond the 3 point line and bricking 3s.

I mean, really? Garnett for 3? What a joke.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I dont care how ugly I LOVE beating those green wearing bastards and their fans ... Fuck 'em all except maybe Simmons and Lngrrr

Fuck Simmons too. He would be much better if all his articles didn't devolve into the predictable Boston wankfest.

[Giuseppe]

Fuck Simmons too. He would be much better if all his articles didn't devolve into the predictable Boston wankfest.

He's without shame.

[Killakobe81]

Kobe Bryant plays all but 5 minutes, leads his team in scoring and assists, and commits only 1 turnover all game.


Leadership.

Yep. But all his haters talk about are shot attempts ...fuck em get him some backcourt and SF help and he will lead us to the promised land again ...

[DPG21920]

Simmons doesn't defend his articles.

[DPG21920]

Yep. But all his haters talk about are shot attempts ...fuck em get him some backcourt and SF help and he will lead us to the promised land again ...

:lol Kobe has to be stacked at every position to win?

[Killakobe81]

I agree he is a prick that loves hating on the Lakers but he is a good writer. Besides he got his success as "the Boston sports guy" ...at least he doesnt hide it, he is like the openly racist guy ... I'd rather you be honest thean subversive with your hate.

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lol Kobe has to be stacked at every position to win?

It would help if players 4 through 14 on the roster weren't the worst supporting cast in NBA history:lol

[Spur_Fanatic]

Yep. But all his haters talk about are shot attempts ...fuck em get him some backcourt and SF help and he will lead us to the promised land again ...

Kobe started well, and then choked.

Gasol saved the Lakers chips tonight.

[DeadlyDynasty]

btw, the Garden has become Staples East:lol

[Killakobe81]

:lol Kobe has to be stacked at every position to win?

Didnt say that. Obviously to get help there (pg/SF) we will have to sacrifice a big ...
What Lakers team even the 3 peat, that Kobe had that was stacked at EVERY positon?

Waiting.

Oh and good to see you around MVP ... :lol

[DPG21920]

Really?

[DPG21920]

What is this MVP thing?

[Spur_Fanatic]

Didnt say that. Obviously to get help there (pg/SF) we will have to sacrifice a big ...
What Lakers team even the 3 peat, that Kobe had that was stacked at EVERY positon?

Waiting.

Oh and good to see you around MVP ... :lol

You truly don't want us to answer that, right?

[Killakobe81]

It would help if players 4 through 14 on the roster weren't the worst supporting cast in NBA history:lol

Wont go that far but our PGS were like 3 for 14 along with the bricks artest and Murphy threw up ...

no point in playing Troy over Mcroberts if Murphy can't hit shots ...

[Spur_Fanatic]

It would help if players 4 through 14 on the roster weren't the worst supporting cast in NBA history:lol

Whoa.

[Killakobe81]

Really?

Yes, the Lakers in 2000 were not stacked at every position. they just had like the Heat had last year, two of the top 5 players in the game. and Kobe's spot in the top 5 was debatable in the first title of the 3peat ...definitive by the 2nd ring ...

[DeadlyDynasty]

You seriously cannot find any other team in NBA history where you are likely to get zero production from players 4-14 on a nightly basis. Anybody who's watched the Lakers this year can see this. If you haven't seen them, go look at the boxscores and they'll tell part of the story:lol

The fact that this team is even 15-11 is a testament to Kobe's leadership and will.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Whoa.

Name another

[Killakobe81]

You truly don't want us to answer that, right?

Please do.

2000 Lakers

PG Harper/Fisher/shaw
SG Kobe
SF Rice/Fox
PF Green/Madsen
C shaq (scrubs)

A good team definitely fairly deep, no holes. But wouldnt say they were STACKED. Rice was past his prime by the time he got to us. In fact from a PURE talent standpoint the team before that one with Van Exel and Eddie Jones (no Phil) had way more athletic talent. Plus despite his faults we had Elden as a backup to shaq. THAT team was stacked, but our coaching sucked and there was too much redundancy ...

[DeadlyDynasty]

No bench, no pg's, no starting-quality sf's (although MWP has had a surprising defensive renaissance this season).

[DeadlyDynasty]

Please do.

2000 Lakers

PG Harper/Fisher/shaw
SG Kobe
SF Rice/Fox
PF Green/Madsen
C shaq (scrubs)

A good team definitely fairly deep, no holes. But wouldnt say they were STACKED. Rice was past his prime by the time he got to us. In fact from a PURE talent standpoint the team before that one with Van Exel and Eddie Jones (no Phil) had way more athletic talent. Plus despite his faults we had Elden as a backup to shaq. THAT team was stacked, but our coaching sucked and there was too much redundancy ...
Madsen wasn't on the 2000 team...Horry was the backup.

John Salley was our backup C:lmao

[Killakobe81]

To be honest SHAq needed more help to ring. He needed a SG playing at almost Jordanesque levels to win his 4. Kobe won with a injured Bynum and Pau as his best wing men ...but don't let the facts gets in the way ...

[baseline bum]

Please do.

2000 Lakers

PG Harper/Fisher/shaw
SG Kobe
SF Rice/Fox
PF Green/Madsen
C shaq (scrubs)

A good team definitely fairly deep, no holes. But wouldnt say they were STACKED. Rice was past his prime by the time he got to us. In fact from a PURE talent standpoint the team before that one with Van Exel and Eddie Jones (no Phil) had way more athletic talent. Plus despite his faults we had Elden as a backup to shaq. THAT team was stacked, but our coaching sucked and there was too much redundancy ...

You forgot the clutchest motherfucker in the history of the league.

[Killakobe81]

Madsen wasn't on the 2000 team...Horry was the backup.

John Salley was our backup C:lmao

Oh shit my bad. I thought his abortion of a dance was at the first ring ceremony.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Glen Rice was such a turd that year too...guy was AWOL for every clutch playoff moment.:lol

Horry, Fish, Harper, Fox, and Shaw were some of the clutchest bunch of role players you'll ever find. Miss those niggas:cry

[baseline bum]

Fox was a really underrated part of those first two titles, but he looked done by the time they went for their third. Cheap-ass motherfucker, but he destroyed the Spurs outside shooting in 01.

[Killakobe81]

You forgot the clutchest motherfucker in the history of the league.

Sorry meant to put him in as the backup PF ...

Like I said that team was good REALLY good. Very deep. Wouldnt say they were STACKED. Fisher was not clutch really until the year after. when he dropped deuces from 3 on the Spurs. Haper pst his prime. Shaw was a castoff from Orlando who we brought in because PJ loathed small PG's ...
(amazing he learned to love Dfish)

The beauty of that team was especially by the 2nd team was everyone settled in their role. And the Kobe shaq feud though brewing hadnt not yet went nuclear ...but even if you say THAT team was stacked. And I guess for me, I consider the 85 Lakers or 86 Celts "stacked" ...I dont even consider the 72 win Bulls stacked to be honest. the last two Laker title teams were far from dominant ...

[DeadlyDynasty]

Fox was a really underrated part of those first two titles, but he looked done by the time they went for their third.

He was not as reliable in the 3rd run, but he came through when it mattered most. Played great D on Peja and Turk in Game 7 while putting up something like 13 pts, 12 rebs, and 7 assists.:tu

[Killakobe81]

What is this MVP thing?

Just Harlem sucking you off in the POM thread, but I agree you were the MVP. I just don't have to polish you to admit it ... :lol

[Giuseppe]

Kobe Bryant plays all but 5 minutes, leads his team in scoring and assists, and commits only 1 turnover all game.


Leadership.

[DAF86]

Didnt say that. Obviously to get help there (pg/SF) we will have to sacrifice a big ...
What Lakers team even the 3 peat, that Kobe had that was stacked at EVERY positon?

Waiting.

Oh and good to see you around MVP ... :lol

crofl Is this even a serious question?

A younger Fish
Ariza (his best version)/Artest
Bynum/Odom
Gasol

How is that not beign stacked at every position?

[BlackSwordsMan]

Look at Seppe in his purple gown strutting around the town smiling at all the navy boys back from the war with his asshole exposed.
Please.

[Giuseppe]

Suns & Nuggets lose.

Night just keeps gettin' better.

tee, hee.

[baseline bum]

He was not as reliable in the 3rd run, but he came through when it mattered most. Played great D on Peja and Turk in Game 7 while putting up something like 13 pts, 12 rebs, and 7 assists.:tu

Peja was just a choking bitch then, airballing threes and shit. Now in 01 Fox was up in Ferry so tight that he should have asked him to wear a rubber at least. Fox was really dirty in that 00 run; I remember a game they were down like 20 to Phoenix and he tried to start a fight with Cliff Robinson to get him tossed for the next game.

[Giuseppe]

Look at Seppe in his purple gown strutting around the town smiling at all the navy boys back from the war with his asshole exposed.
Please.

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[BlackSwordsMan]

Finals MVPs?

[baseline bum]

Sorry meant to put him in as the backup PF ...

Like I said that team was good REALLY good. Very deep. Wouldnt say they were STACKED. Fisher was not clutch really until the year after. when he dropped deuces from 3 on the Spurs. Haper pst his prime. Shaw was a castoff from Orlando who we brought in because PJ loathed small PG's ...
(amazing he learned to love Dfish)

The beauty of that team was especially by the 2nd team was everyone settled in their role. And the Kobe shaq feud though brewing hadnt not yet went nuclear ...but even if you say THAT team was stacked. And I guess for me, I consider the 85 Lakers or 86 Celts "stacked" ...I dont even consider the 72 win Bulls stacked to be honest. the last two Laker title teams were far from dominant ...

Harper was a bad motherfucker for that team. Great D and clutch shooting (especially the game in Portland where Pippen beat the towels up afterward :cry)

[DeadlyDynasty]

crofl Is this even a serious question?

A younger Fish
Ariza (his best version)/Artest
Bynum/Odom
Gasol

How is that not beign stacked at every position?

"A younger Fisher":lmao

Fisher made every PG we played look like Isiah Thomas. Aaron Brooks is still in the NBA b/c of that Rockets series:lol

We love Fish though b/c even though he was a black hole for 3.5 quarters, he came through with the big shots almost everytime.


Oh, and manu>dirk

[Killakobe81]

Glen Rice was such a turd that year too...guy was AWOL for every clutch playoff moment.:lol

Horry, Fish, Harper, Fox, and Shaw were some of the clutchest bunch of role players you'll ever find. Miss those niggas:cry

amen. even shaw would bank in a 3 from the wing. sure that shit seemed lucky but he hit a clutch one in Game 7 of the WCF vs. the Blazers.

We had probably one of the greatest collection of clutch role players. Not a one of them except maybe a young Harper were even a "star" in the league.
That is why I say we were NOT stacked. But outside of the 1985 Lakers that late season and playoff run was a thing of beauty ...miss them niggas too :(

[DeadlyDynasty]

Harper was a bad motherfucker for that team. Great D and clutch shooting (especially the game in Portland where Pippen beat the towels up afterward :cry)

Game 3, baseline J! Remember that shit vividly

93-91 Lakers:smokin

[DAF86]

"A younger Fisher":lmao

Fisher made every PG we played look like Isiah Thomas. Aaron Brooks is still in the NBA b/c of that Rockets series:lol

We love Fish though b/c even though he was a black hole for 3.5 quarters, he came through with the big shots almost everytime.


Oh, and manu>dirk

And yet he was vital to those championships with many clutch shots.

When Bryant leads a team that has guys like Oberto and Vaughn in their rotation to a championship then he will lead a team that isn't stacked at every position to the promise land.

[Giuseppe]

When Bryant leads a team that has guys like Oberto and Vaughn in their rotation to a championship then he will lead a team that isn't stacked at every position to the promise land.

Until then we'll settle for:::

Kobe: 5

tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[Killakobe81]

Look I don't qulify titles. But I have seen the Lakers win 10 titles. The past 2 Lakers champions are 9th and 10th of those 10.


I would say

1. 1985 The drive to 5 was straight detrmination ... McAdoo gets his ring
2. 1980 Young (relative) Kareem, Rookie Magic, Silk, Coop
3. 1987 Thompson solidifies bench Magic takes torch from Kareem
4. 2001 A team playing beautiful ball by May and June shaq still best in game Kobe ascedant
5. 2000 Shaq at his best. Only year he was solely focused and paid the price to ring
6. 1988 Running on fumes but Magic, Worthy and Scott were at tail end of their primes
7. 2002 Ditto. Shaq and Kobe barely drag us across the finish line
8. 1982 A great team but the chemistry was off nixon and Magic began to feud and the coach and Magic too ...(remind you guys of Kobe? LOL)
9. 2009 the Kobe jaw, Clutch Ariza and fisher Key roles by Odom and Shannon Brown
10. 2010 Running on fumes Bynum's taking out of Perkins loomed large ...Artest!!!!

[DeadlyDynasty]

And yet he was vital to those championships with many clutch shots.

When Bryant leads a team that has guys like Oberto and Vaughn in their rotation to a championship then he will lead a team that isn't stacked at every position to the promise land.

Considereing Fisher as a starter as "deep"...dumbass:lol
Duncan had stars at the PG and SG, as well as the best defensive SF in the game at the time.:lol

In 1999, he had Robinson before he was washed up.


oh, and manu>dirk

[DeadlyDynasty]

Look I don't qulify titles. But I have seen the Lakers win 10 titles. The past 2 Lakers champions are 9th and 10th of those 10.


I would say

1. 1985 The drive to 5 was straight detrmination ... McAdoo gets his ring
2. 1980 Young (relative) Kareem, Rookie Magic, Silk, Coop
3. 1987 Thompson solidifies bench Magic takes torch from Kareem
4. 2001 A team playing beautiful ball by May and June shaq still best in game Kobe ascedant
5. 2000 Shaq at his best. Only year he was solely focused and paid the price to ring
6. 1988 Running on fumes but Magic, Worthy and Scott were at tail end of their primes
7. 2002 Ditto. Shaq and Kobe barely drag us across the finish line
8. 1982 A great team but the chemistry was off nixon and Magic began to feud and the coach and Magic too ...(remind you guys of Kobe? LOL)
9. 2009 the Kobe jaw, Clutch Ariza and fisher Key roles by Odom and Shannon Brown
10. 2010 Running on fumes Bynum's taking out of Perkins loomed large ...Artest!!!!

crofl...I'll give you the 1985 team, but the 2001 Lakers would face-fuck just about any team, sans a few of the Bulls teams.

[DAF86]

Considereing Fisher as a starter as "deep"...dumbass:lol
Duncan had stars at the PG and SG, as well as the best defensive SF in the game at the time.:lol

In 1999, he had Robinson before he was washed up.


oh, and manu>dirk

Bryant had stars at the 4 and 5 (Three of them). And a former DPoY in Artest.

[DAF86]

Considereing Fisher as a starter as "deep"...dumbass:lol

Did you forget Shannon Brown?

[Killakobe81]

crofl...I'll give you the 1985 team, but the 2001 Lakers would face-fuck just about any team, sans a few of the Bulls teams.

agree to disagree :lol

Shaq would of been a monster, but Kareem would of run that version of shaq off the court in 1980. Plus shaq would of been in foul trouble. Magic would of owned Harper, Fisher shaw. Cooper would of done a decent job on Kobe. Silk would of made those cats pay. plus Nixon/Magic would of forced the them to play at a quicker pace than the 2001 Lakers would of liked.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Bryant had stars at the 4 and 5 (Three of them). And a former DPoY in Artest.

Andrew Bynum was not a "star" in 2009-2010...certainly not in the playoffs, especially.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Did you forget Shannon Brown?

Nope, a highlight reel dunk followed by a slew of turnovers. We had no starting quality PG's on either the 2009 or 2010 team, and were carried by Kobe, Pau, Artest/Ariza, and LO

[Killakobe81]

Kareem would of had Shaq in foul trouble. No way refs allow him to Dikembe Jabbar ...

[DeadlyDynasty]

agree to disagree :lol

Shaq would of been a monster, but Kareem would of run that version of shaq off the court in 1980. Plus shaq would of been in foul trouble. Magic would of owned Harper, Fisher shaw. Cooper would of done a decent job on Kobe. Silk would of made those cats pay. plus Nixon/Magic would of forced the them to play at a quicker pace than the 2001 Lakers would of liked.

I think you're forgetting just how dominant Shaq was in that 3-peat, tbh.

The dude was unguardable. You'll never see 2 players destroy opponents like you did Kobe and Shaq in the 2001 Kings and Spurs' series.

That 2001 playoff run was like the basketball version of the Holocaust, with the Lakers playing the part of the Nazis

[Killakobe81]

also DD, that 1987 team who would guard worthy? Worthy was a low post beast and Magic was so clutch for that team. I think that is a close matchup because Kareem is pretty darn old ...

But no way 2001 beats the 1980 or 1985 Lakers ...they may even struggle with the 1982 team ...if Nixon and magic hadnt beefed ...

[Killakobe81]

I think you're forgetting just how dominant Shaq was in that 3-peat, tbh.

The dude was unguardable. You'll never see 2 players destroy opponents like you did Kobe and Shaq in the 2001 Kings and Spurs' series.

That 2001 playoff run was like the basketball version of the Holocaust, with the Lakers playing the part of the Nazis

I did not. But those lakers teams beasted in a less watered down league ...

shaq could of not kept up with the pace that Magic and Nixon would of set ...

[Killakobe81]

Plus you have to remember refs, DD.

Do you recall that shaq spent parts of series especially aganst Sacto, in the playoffs, on the bench in foul trouble? If Vlade, Polard heck even Rik smiths in the 2000 Finals all got shaq in foul trouble. what would a young Kareem do? No way if shit plays out the same could Kobe bail out a win against THOSe teams with Magic leading the way ...

[DAF86]

Nitpick all you want but the two times Kobe lead a team to a championship he had a stacked team.

Cheers, I'm off to sleep.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Cheers, I'm off to sleep.

Smartest thing you've said all night.

Ciao.

P.S. manu>dirk

[DeadlyDynasty]

Plus you have to remember refs, DD.

Do you recall that shaq spent parts of series especially aganst Sacto, in the playoffs, on the bench in foul trouble? If Vlade, Polard heck even Rik smiths in the 2000 Finals all got shaq in foul trouble. what would a young Kareem do? No way if shit plays out the same could Kobe bail out a win against THOSe teams with Magic leading the way ...

I think you're romanticizing too many of those 80's teams (though they were no doubt great). There wasn't much defense in the 80's, while those 2000 and 2001 Lakers teams were lockdown on D.

Also, the 2001 playoff run was not watered down.
-Portland in Round 1 (who gave us hell in the WCF a year earlier and still had tons of talent)
-The upstart Kings with the toughest crowd
-On the road against the Spurs (best record in the league)
-The Sixers with the MVP, DPOY, 6MOY, and COY

Their only loss was in OT b/c they were rusty from having 9 days off:lol

The 2001 Lakers were simply unfair.

[Killakobe81]

I think you're romanticizing too many of those 80's teams (though they were no doubt great). There wasn't much defense in the 80's, while those 2000 and 2001 Lakers teams were lockdown on D.

Also, the 2001 playoff run was not watered down.
-Portland in Round 1 (who gave us hell in the WCF a year earlier and still had tons of talent)
-The upstart Kings with the toughest crowd
-On the road against the Spurs (best record in the league)
-The Sixers with the MVP, DPOY, 6MOY, and COY

Their only loss was in OT b/c they were rusty from having 9 days off:lol

The 2001 Lakers were simply unfair.

Kobe Fox Horry were very good perimeter defenders, Fisher a great charge/flop guy. Shaq Horry good rim protectors ...Still dont see how they beat those Lakers teams. In 1980 Kareem was the MVP and Magic could still dunk and had two good knees. Norm Nixon was an all-star. Wilkes put up 40 in the clinching finals game. Outside of Shaq/Kobe the 1980 who Kareem and Magic cancel out wilkes and Nixon are better than every other Laker on the 2001 squad. Cooper would probaly be the next best bench player after horry

[Killakobe81]

That sixers team was good but the Sixers team the 1980 Lakers tesam beat shits on that sixers squad ...

[Killakobe81]

LOL shaq says Kobe greatest lakers but when it coes to dominance, there was Wilt then it was me!!

[DeadlyDynasty]

That sixers team was good but the Sixers team the 1980 Lakers tesam beat shits on that sixers squad ...

This is true.

[Pelicans78]

Kareem raped Wilt when the Bucks played the Lakers. Dominant my ass. Shaq just doesn't like Kareem. Kareem was definitely dominant.

[Killakobe81]

Kareem was dominant that is why I say the 1980 squad beats any of the Shaq/Kobe ones ...

[nevitt_&_smrek]

1982 Lakers squad is underrated. McAdoo was a force off the bench, on both ends of the court. First team to sweep two series heading into the finals, won the finals w/o home court advantage against a tough opponent.

[TheManFromAcme]

Kareem was dominant that is why I say the 1980 squad beats any of the Shaq/Kobe ones ...

On the offensive end, I can't argue that. Caps skyhook was almost unstoppable but on the defensive end, Shaq's 150 lb advantage would have given Cap fits. Good match-up though :tu

[Giuseppe]

zero production from players 4-14 on a nightly basis.

We're 3 deep!

[LnGrrrR]

I dont care how ugly I LOVE beating those green wearing bastards and their fans ... Fuck 'em all except maybe Simmons and Lngrrr

No problem man. Nothing but love for ya :toast

Well, except when we're playing you :lol