How much do NBA scouts and coaches really know? Lin.

[Fabbs]

Obviously he was not completely overlooked as he got invited to 8 teams camps. Got signed by Golden, got picked up by Houston then NYK.
However espn reports he was buried on the Knicks bench and about to be waived again.

89 points in his first three career starts, the most by any player since 1976.
Not to mention assists and overall game.
Knicks should trade Marshmellow Anthony.

To the point, how much do NBA coaches and scouts really know?
Here's a guy who was about to be cut. Matt Bonner has averaged 18 minutes a game in the playoffs.

[Giuseppe]

Frankly? I hope the fuck breaks his life.

[Double-Up]

He was given a shot and he shined but question should be how long will it last?

[Double-Up]

Frankly? I hope the fuck breaks his life.

You guys got curb stomped... :lol

[Giuseppe]

You guys got curb stomped... :lol

Hold on, let me check last night's scores...please stand by.
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Yeah, yer okay. We got "curb stompled."

[Double-Up]

Hold on, let me check last night's scores...please stand by.
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Yeah, yer okay. We got "curb stompled."

When an undrafted asian rookie drops 38 on your team...yea. :lol

[Giuseppe]

When an undrafted asian rookie drops 38 on your team...yea. :lol

This is true.

[Fabbs]

He was given a shot and he shined but question should be how long will it last?
True that he dropped his 38 on some weak assed competition.
Tired old no defense bags Kerby and DSwisher.

Still, Lin looked great, has all around game.

[Giuseppe]

Tired old bags

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[Trainwreck2100]

He plays in a system that got quinten Richardson and Boris diaw crazy contracts. Anyone remember when the latter was supposed to be the "center of the future?"

[Indazone]

Laughing at the meltdown at Clutchfans about how Morey was a dumbass for putting Lin on Waivers. :lol

[JamStone]

To the point, how much do NBA coaches and scouts really know?

Still way more than most. I think Lin is an interesting case of a player who might be a borderline NBA player talent-wise, but when he got his opportunity, he found himself in a perfect situation, in the right system, and has so far made the absolute most of it and has played out of his mind. This is probably the best he's shot the ball in his life, or up there at least. He's in an offensive system that really caters to his strengths. And the injury to Carmelo and the absence of Amare are two things that probably helped him shine immensely where he's been forced to be aggressive in looking to score. Just a really great situation for him to take advantage of, and he has taken full advantage of it.

And as for NBA scouts and GMs, the job of predicting how a player will translate to the NBA and how he will improve and develop certainly isn't a perfect science. There are intangibles Lin has shown that you can't measure. You can't always see or predict work ethic, desire to win, basketball IQ, not always anyway. Same thing happened with Ben Wallace, but it took the right situation and a real opportunity for him to find his niche in the NBA. Probably can say the same thing about Bruce Bowen or guys like Wes Matthews and Reggie Williams.

Just goes to show you, when you do get that one chance, that one opportunity, make the most of it.

[Double-Up]

Most NBA coaches have IQs in the 80 range. If one of them has an IQ of say, 120, like Phil Jackson, they are referred to as a, "genius".

Kill Bill Pana strikes again. :lol

[DMC]

A person might have a crazy game one night against a scrub team, but it's not a fluke when a guy has that kind of success for more than one or two games. He's got a good BB IQ for a rookie, and he's fearless. He's got skills and knows how to attack the defense.

I would keep riding him until he proved otherwise, but I think he's the real deal.

[DPG21920]

They get a lot more right than we as fans do. For every Lin they miss which is pretty rare, there are multiple James white's, Gerald Green's, Spanoulis's that fans like and aren't NBA players.

[DMC]

He plays in a system that got quinten Richardson and Boris diaw crazy contracts. Anyone remember when the latter was supposed to be the "center of the future?"

That's a double edged sword.

Either of those guys could have been productive on other teams. It's as much the fault of their respective teams' management as anything.

If a player can shine under a different system, he's a good player. It's not the player's fault that the new coaching system doesn't incorporate his strengths. That's for the coaches to figure out.

[JamStone]

Or triple edged sword?

Most NBA head coaches have a system and have used it pretty much their entire coaching career, which has helped them get to where they are now. It's the GM's job to acquire players that will excel in that system. It's much harder to change a whole coaching philosophy over one player than to acquire another player that fits better. When you're talking about players that are specialists or are system players, and not players that are the type of talent that will succeed in any system, I think it's more on the GM than the coach and coaching system to find those players that fit.

[DMC]

Or triple edged sword?

Most NBA head coaches have a system and have used it pretty much their entire coaching career, which has helped them get to where they are now. It's the GM's job to acquire players that will excel in that system. It's much harder to change a whole coaching philosophy over one player than to acquire another player that fits better. When you're talking about players that are specialists or are system players, and not players that are the type of talent that will succeed in any system, I think it's more on the GM than the coach and coaching system to find those players that fit.

It could even be a mace.

That's why I said team management. A player doesn't acquire himself.

[jag]

Still way more than most. I think Lin is an interesting case of a player who might be a borderline NBA player talent-wise, but when he got his opportunity, he found himself in a perfect situation, in the right system, and has so far made the absolute most of it and has played out of his mind. This is probably the best he's shot the ball in his life, or up there at least. He's in an offensive system that really caters to his strengths. And the injury to Carmelo and the absence of Amare are two things that probably helped him shine immensely where he's been forced to be aggressive in looking to score. Just a really great situation for him to take advantage of, and he has taken full advantage of it.

And as for NBA scouts and GMs, the job of predicting how a player will translate to the NBA and how he will improve and develop certainly isn't a perfect science. There are intangibles Lin has shown that you can't measure. You can't always see or predict work ethic, desire to win, basketball IQ, not always anyway. Same thing happened with Ben Wallace, but it took the right situation and a real opportunity for him to find his niche in the NBA. Probably can say the same thing about Bruce Bowen or guys like Wes Matthews and Reggie Williams.

Just goes to show you, when you do get that one chance, that one opportunity, make the most of it.

Good post

[Leetonidas]

Most NBA coaches have IQs in the 80 range. If one of them has an IQ of say, 120, like Phil Jackson, they are referred to as a, "genius".

:lol Tiago Splitter shitting all over you
:lol dirty goat fucking country
:lol no money
:lol Greek basketball team is fucking awful
:lol living in Greece

[Sportcamper]

JamStone-Just goes to show you, when you do get that one chance, that one opportunity, make the most of it...

Great Post :tu...Wally Pipp could not have said it better...

[Hemotivo]

brandon jennings + jjBarea = Lin

[pass1st]

:lol Tiago Splitter shitting all over you
:lol dirty goat fucking country
:lol no money
:lol Greek basketball team is fucking awful
:lol living in Greece

Lol, lives in Arkansas tbh

[Proxy]

brandon jennings + jjBarea = Lin
:keda

[ChumpDumper]

Most NBA coaches have IQs in the 80 range. If one of them has an IQ of say, 120, like Phil Jackson, they are referred to as a, "genius".Where is the list of NBA coach IQs?

Link?

[pass1st]

Where is the list of NBA coach IQs?

Link?

He's just making shit up again so he can formulate a rebuttal that Euroleague coaches are better than NBA coaches. We only know Potato Head's IQ

[BUMP]

Still way more than most. I think Lin is an interesting case of a player who might be a borderline NBA player talent-wise, but when he got his opportunity, he found himself in a perfect situation, in the right system, and has so far made the absolute most of it and has played out of his mind. This is probably the best he's shot the ball in his life, or up there at least. He's in an offensive system that really caters to his strengths. And the injury to Carmelo and the absence of Amare are two things that probably helped him shine immensely where he's been forced to be aggressive in looking to score. Just a really great situation for him to take advantage of, and he has taken full advantage of it.

And as for NBA scouts and GMs, the job of predicting how a player will translate to the NBA and how he will improve and develop certainly isn't a perfect science. There are intangibles Lin has shown that you can't measure. You can't always see or predict work ethic, desire to win, basketball IQ, not always anyway. Same thing happened with Ben Wallace, but it took the right situation and a real opportunity for him to find his niche in the NBA. Probably can say the same thing about Bruce Bowen or guys like Wes Matthews and Reggie Williams.

Just goes to show you, when you do get that one chance, that one opportunity, make the most of it.

I think the problem is that most NBA gm's try and strike gold with every single pick even though it isn't always logical. Trying to find the next Kobe Bryant/LeBron is reasonable when you have a lottery pick but after that I think you should go with proven college commodities even if they don't have prototypical size and try and get them to be productive bench players. Then we'd be able to see more guys like Lin.

For example, I thought Lacedarius Dunn from Baylor had a great all around game in college becoming the Big 12's all time leading scorer. I thought he had the chance to be a solid offense off the bench type of player in the NBA. The problem is that GM's would rather look at Mambo Jambo from Senegal because he's much more athletic and can dunk 3 coconuts at once so he technically has the "potential" to be great. But then they send him over to some random country for 5 years and realize he just sucks resulting in a wasted pick.

[mavs>spurs]

Baylor is jinxed scro, that's why. My friend transerred there after a solid freshman season elsewhere and injured himself for good.

[midnightpulp]

I think the problem is that most NBA gm's try and strike gold with every single pick even though it isn't always logical. Trying to find the next Kobe Bryant/LeBron is reasonable when you have a lottery pick but after that I think you should go with proven college commodities even if they don't have prototypical size and try and get them to be productive bench players. Then we'd be able to see more guys like Lin.

For example, I thought Lacedarius Dunn from Baylor had a great all around game in college becoming the Big 12's all time leading scorer. I thought he had the chance to be a solid offense off the bench type of player in the NBA. The problem is that GM's would rather look at Mambo Jambo from Senegal because he's much more athletic and can dunk 3 coconuts at once so he technically has the "potential" to be great. But then they send him over to some random country for 5 years and realize he just sucks resulting in a wasted pick.

:lmao

[Koolaid_Man]

:lmao


fuck Linderalla..we don't want more like him...it's a niggra's league...we want that negro swagga

85Bl3GRdULQ

[Trainwreck2100]

It could even be a mace.

That's why I said team management. A player doesn't acquire himself.

not a mace but a trebuchet the owners players and coaches and management to to shoot far t get the right players/system/coaches/mascot