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TheMACHINE
02-12-2012, 01:37 PM
so like i looked online and a lot of people say to change a capacitor...so i opened up the tv and took out the board. Problem is, I cant find which capacitors are bad. On "how to" sites, they said the capacitors top would be buldging..but mine arnt.

I do see some black stuff on the bottom though. Is that leakage or is that some sort of glue? I dont know shit about this stuff but they said it is as simple as using a soldering gun.

Can anyone tell which is the bad ones?

http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab177/LMAOxROFL/IMG_20120212_095126.jpg

http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab177/LMAOxROFL/IMG_20120212_095722.jpg

TDMVPDPOY
02-12-2012, 02:49 PM
why not buy a new one? tvs and shit a dirt cheap man

Dex
02-12-2012, 03:29 PM
That looks like leakage, though most commonly the leakage will come from the top and you will see those X's on the top of the capacitors either bulging out, or split.

But since capacitors are usually soldered to the board using a soldering compound which is usually silver or copper, I doubt that black gunk is glue. And if those things are leaking out onto the board, then just replacing the capacitors may not help much.

Your options would be to
1) Replace just the capacitors first and see if it helps (since capacitors are cheap and it's not terribly difficulty, as long as you have soldering experience).
2) If it doesn't help or if you don't feel like messing around with step 1, then look online for a replacement board. Replacing the whole board is much easier than replacing the caps, usually a matter of a series of screws and unhooking a few cables. My Dad's Samsung had a power distribution issue and when we opened it up, we saw several bulging caps, so we just replaced the board and it works likes new now.
3) Take the money you would spend on steps 1 and 2, and apply it towards looking for a new TV.

Creepn
02-12-2012, 05:52 PM
Aren't tv's FRU's? Meaning if your tv's broke don't open it because you can electrocute your balls off?

Buy a new tv.

TheMACHINE
02-12-2012, 07:34 PM
well..as you guys know from my other threads....I just bought a Sharp 70 inch LED and a new laptop for my wife in the past 2 months...thats $3700 out of my pocket already. lol

Also, its a 40 inch i need to replace and if i buy a new one, it's gonna have to have WIFI and be 120ghz. The cheapest i found is like $719.00 =(

If anyone else can find a LED TV, 40 to 42 inch with WIFI and 120ghz for less, please let me know.

ElNono
02-12-2012, 07:42 PM
Yeah, those caps look like they leaked to the bottom, which might have fucked the board too. Is it a separate power board? You might be able to just buy the power board and swap it out. Do you have a P/N for the board?

The Reckoning
02-12-2012, 07:50 PM
wait about 6 more years until puberty

ElNono
02-12-2012, 07:57 PM
What is the brand/model of the TV? Is it a GE Tv?

TheMACHINE
02-12-2012, 09:58 PM
What is the brand/model of the TV? Is it a GE Tv?

Its an "A-Star"....dont even think they are in business anymore. And i really dont know anything about these boards. One of my friends said when i take off one of the capacitors the black leakage will chip pieces of the board off so its permantly broke.

ElNono
02-13-2012, 12:32 AM
never heard of it... Those caps are shot... you could try replacing them and hope the board didn't get damaged. The other thing you could do is try to find a similar broken set on Ebay or somewhere and see if the power board is still ok.

Dex
02-13-2012, 01:36 AM
Aren't tv's FRU's? Meaning if your tv's broke don't open it because you can electrocute your balls off?

Buy a new tv.

FRU's (field replaceable units) actually refers to boards and parts that ARE safe to replace in the field.

But yes, with most TVs and other large electronics, the power boards and internal components can still carry a charge for a while after unplugging them, so it's a good idea to let the unit sit unplugged for ~24 hours before removing the casing and messing with the boards. Also, proper electrostatic safe measures should be taken to prevent while working internally to prevent further damage (don't wear any polyester or long sleeves, try to use tools that won't carry a charge, wear an electrostatic bracelet or at least touch the metal frame to try to ground yourself before touching boards, etc).

At least we are past the days of CRTs and having to discharge them or have them blow your face off.

greyforest
02-13-2012, 03:22 AM
42" 1080p lcd tvs are like $400

leemajors
02-13-2012, 10:32 AM
never heard of it... Those caps are shot... you could try replacing them and hope the board didn't get damaged. The other thing you could do is try to find a similar broken set on Ebay or somewhere and see if the power board is still ok.

might be able to just find the board itself on ebay, i know they have them for samsungs, which have notoriously bad caps. I got mine fixed for free a few years ago.

TheMACHINE
02-13-2012, 01:18 PM
42" 1080p lcd tvs are like $400

This is the cheapest i found that has Wifi and 120ghz.

http://www.amazon.com/LG-Infinia-42LV5500-42-Inch-LED-LCD/dp/B004OOVIEU/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header

$719.00

leemajors
02-13-2012, 01:24 PM
That looks like leakage, though most commonly the leakage will come from the top and you will see those X's on the top of the capacitors either bulging out, or split.

But since capacitors are usually soldered to the board using a soldering compound which is usually silver or copper, I doubt that black gunk is glue. And if those things are leaking out onto the board, then just replacing the capacitors may not help much.

Your options would be to
1) Replace just the capacitors first and see if it helps (since capacitors are cheap and it's not terribly difficulty, as long as you have soldering experience).
2) If it doesn't help or if you don't feel like messing around with step 1, then look online for a replacement board. Replacing the whole board is much easier than replacing the caps, usually a matter of a series of screws and unhooking a few cables. My Dad's Samsung had a power distribution issue and when we opened it up, we saw several bulging caps, so we just replaced the board and it works likes new now.
3) Take the money you would spend on steps 1 and 2, and apply it towards looking for a new TV.

Samsung will actually repair blown capacitors for free if you call them. Just an FYI - silent repair program.

leemajors
02-13-2012, 01:26 PM
This is the cheapest i found that has Wifi and 120ghz.

http://www.amazon.com/LG-Infinia-42LV5500-42-Inch-LED-LCD/dp/B004OOVIEU/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header

$719.00

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod4960362&navAction=push

$524. Smart TVs are fairly overrated tbh, esp with that Roxio HDMI stick coming out.

TheMACHINE
02-13-2012, 01:34 PM
http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod4960362&navAction=push

$524. Smart TVs are fairly overrated tbh, esp with that Roxio HDMI stick coming out.

Thats a good deal, but it doesnt seem like it doesnt have wifi. :(

I need to have Netflix on it for our family movie nights

Dex
02-13-2012, 01:44 PM
Samsung will actually repair blown capacitors for free if you call them. Just an FYI - silent repair program.

iiiiinteresting.

My Dad called them and described the symptoms (had power, but would not turn on...was stuck in "energy saver" mode), and they basically told him he'd have to send it in and that the work would be out-of-warranty.

We never talked to them after we diagnosed the blown caps though.

TheMACHINE
02-13-2012, 01:47 PM
http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod4960362&navAction=push

$524. Smart TVs are fairly overrated tbh, esp with that Roxio HDMI stick coming out.

So my coworker just told me to buy the one you posted (its $529 at amazon) then buy a $249 ps3 to get netflix and a bluray player.

What you think?

ElNono
02-13-2012, 01:51 PM
Samsung LN40B650 40-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LCD HDTV (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN40B650-40-Inch-1080p-Touch/dp/B001U3Y8O0/)

Refurb for $520. Comes with Ethernet, but you can buy the wifi stick too.

ElNono
02-13-2012, 01:53 PM
So my coworker just told me to buy the one you posted (its $529 at amazon) then buy a $249 ps3 to get netflix and a bluray player.

What you think?

Wouldn't getting a WDTV Live Plus be cheaper if you just need netflix?

ElNono
02-13-2012, 01:55 PM
heck you could buy just a cheaper bluray player with Smart TV... like this (http://www.divadiscounts.net/lg-3d-blu-ray-player-smart-tv-1080p/)

TheMACHINE
02-13-2012, 01:56 PM
heck you could buy just a cheaper bluray player with Smart TV... like this (http://www.divadiscounts.net/lg-3d-blu-ray-player-smart-tv-1080p/)

ohh and that one had wifi too for netflix

TheMACHINE
02-13-2012, 01:57 PM
Wouldn't getting a WDTV Live Plus be cheaper if you just need netflix?

itd be nice to have bluray player too

ElNono
02-13-2012, 01:57 PM
This one too:

Samsung BD-C5500 Blu-ray Player Smart TV with Samsung Apps , Refurbished (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Samsung-BD-C5500-Blu-ray-Player-Smart-TV-with-Samsung-Apps-Refurbished/15029187?ci_sku=15029187&ci_src=14110944&sourceid=1500000000000003142050)

ElNono
02-13-2012, 01:58 PM
Here's a cheaper one. But you need to add the price of the wifi stick (under $100):

Samsung BD-D5300 Blu-ray Disc Player, Refurbished (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Samsung-BD-D5300-Blu-ray-Disc-Player-Refurbished/17327921?findingMethod=rr)

ElNono
02-13-2012, 02:01 PM
This one includes wifi + smart TV. $138 new.

Samsung BD-D5700 WiFi Blu-ray Disc Player (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Samsung-BD-D5700-Blu-ray-Disc-Player/16440065)

CuckingFunt
02-13-2012, 02:06 PM
Every time I come in this forum I read this thread title as "My 6 year old won't turn the TV on...need expert advice!"

Dex
02-13-2012, 02:22 PM
Every time I come in this forum I read this thread title as "My 6 year old won't turn the TV on...need expert advice!"

Give that kid a medal!

TheMACHINE
02-13-2012, 04:21 PM
http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod4960362&navAction=push

$524. Smart TVs are fairly overrated tbh, esp with that Roxio HDMI stick coming out.

wow so many reviews that the TV's just dies. Eeek!

TheMACHINE
02-13-2012, 05:29 PM
I ended up just buying this...theres something wrong with that LG.

And i cant find anything around $500 thats 120ghz even without wifi...so this one at 240ghz looked good.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-42-42TL515U/16617633?povid=cat1060825-env258601-module438085-rLink1