***The Official Miami Marlins 2012 Season Thread***

[DeadlyDynasty]

Season doesn't start till March 28th, but spring training begins soon and baseball should be infinitely more entertaining than this shitty NBA season we have. I'm fucking psyched for the new season, and so should most baseball fans. It's not just about the Phillies, Yanks, and Sawx anymore. The Tigers, Brewers, Angels, Marlins, Rangers, Rays, and other teams all have a shot.

Besides their gay new logo, the Marlins made a plethora of changes everywhere that has them looking like a possible contender in 2012.

For starters they signed Ozzie Guillen as Manager, who has a good track record and will fit perfectly in this Hispanic market. He brings excitement and holds his players accountable (are you listening, Hanley?).

The starting rotation as of now looks like this:

Josh Johnson...the guy is an amazing talent, but nagging injuries have been frustrating.
Mark Buehrle...great lefty, familiar with Ozzie Guillen too.
Anibal Sanchez...one of the best young and underrated pitchers. He's been damn good for 4-5 seasons now.
Ricky Nolasco...unheralded righty who is as solid is they come. He chews up innings like it's nobody's business and keeps the bullpen fresh.
Carlos Zambrano...Has had a couple rough years, but this is our #5 guy in the rotation--I think anybody would take that.

4 righties and 1 lefty. Could be a problem against teams like Philly, but we'll see...

In the pen we move Leo Nunez (or w/e the fuck his name is now) to setup, now that we signed Heath Bell as closer. We still have Randy Choate, who was arguably the best lefty specialist last year---dude destroyed lefty batters. Webb and Mujica improved greatly from their horrible starts last year.

The lineup is full of good young bats and a TON of team speed. Not sure exactly how the order will shake out, but it should be exciting nonetheless:

CF - Emilio Bonifacio...Bonerface is one of the fastest guys in the MLB, and his bat came around finally last year.
SS - Jose Reyes...NL Batting Champ last year
3B - Hanley Ramirez...assuming he'll accept his position at 3rd, he has nowhere to go but up after an awful 2011. Another former batting champ, he should benefit most from Ozzie's managing.
RF - Mike Stanton...King Shit of Fuck Mountain. Future superstar and unquestionably my favorite player in baseball.
1B - Gaby Sanchez...good young hitter who had a minor sophomore slump in 2011, but hits for power and is a good young talent. Needs to work on D though.
3B - Logan Morrison...LoMo had a torrid start and finish to 2011, but was anemic in the middle. He needs to be more consistent, but when on his game he's an XBH's machine.
2B - Omar Infante...needs to improve all around, as he too had a down year last season. Was very clutch with the Braves in 2010, and had a few moments last year as well but did not perform up to par.
C - John Buck...Not gonna lie, he blows. His defense is 'decent' on his best days and his bat leaves something the be desired. Hopefully Brett Hayes can pick up some of the slack.

Some of our bench guys:

Gregg Dobbs - Great and clutch veteran PH'r. Can hold the fort down for short stints at 3B when Hanley inevitably gets injured.
Chris Coghlan - Was our leadoff guy before he got injured last year, and was hitting above .300 for awhile. Fast on the basepaths too.
Bryan Petersen - promising young bat, did a decent job in the outfield last year too. He will start many games this year.

Last but not least, they have a gorgeous new ballpark that's in Miami--not way out in the sticks. It's also a hitters park, so no more 430-ft flyball outs every game.

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[Goran Dragic]

I pick this team as my sleeper every year :lmao


I rememba in 2009 when I premature ejaculated over their 12-1 start. Hopefully their new stadium is what they expect it to be, but fuck them for getting rid of the best logo in baseball.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I pick this team as my sleeper every year :lmao


I rememba in 2009 when I premature ejaculated over their 12-1 start. Hopefully their new stadium is what they expect it to be, but fuck them for getting rid of the best logo in baseball.

Yeah their logo was sleek and bad-ass. I could live with the new one if they got rid of that fruity orange though. Just keep it black and teal, let the faggot-ass Dolphins rock the orange. Unless you're going solid Orange like The U, then it looks stupid.

[JamStone]

Talent on paper is pretty special. I think it will be the intangible things that will determine how successful they'll be this season. Will Hanley be a clubhouse malcontent with the position move he publicly was unhappy with? He had a pretty subpar season last year for him and now he may or may not be on board with what's best for the team. Will there be other guys unhappy with their roles like Coghlan and LoMo, if they aren't everyday players? Will Zambrano's temper cause distraction at some point? Will Josh Johnson stay healthy?

The other thing is they play in a pretty competitive division. Phillies lose Howard for at least part of the year but with that pitching staff, they should still be division contenders. Braves also have a strong pitching staff that will make them tough. And the Nationals may be prepared to turn the corner. They acquired Gio and Edwin Jackson and there's a possibility they add both Strasburg and Harper to the roster at some point this season. If Ryan Zimmerman returns to form and Harper lives up to the hype, that could make their offense fairly potent if Morse and Werth and Desmond do what they're capable and Ramos finally comes around. A lot of nice young talent on that team. However, it's likely they're not ready just yet this year to really compete.

Marlins should be interesting to watch though. That top of the line-up with Reyes, Bonifacio, Ramirez is about as good as it gets with talent and speed.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Marlins should be interesting to watch though. That top of the line-up with Reyes, Bonifacio, Ramirez is about as good as it gets with talent and speed.

:tu

Agree on the Nats, they have some scary talent if and when things come together. The division is tough for sure, but I'm not sold on the Braves improving from last year.

The Marlins speed this year could rival their 03 and 04 teams when we had Pierre and Castillo at the top of the order--that made them so dangerous those years and was quite the luxury.


Btw bro, good offseason for Detroit. What's the o/u on how many games they win their division by? 20? 25?

[JamStone]

AL Central is horrible, probably worse than last year and last year it was already god-awful. And Tigers took advantage, but I'm not sure the Tigers can improve on the 50-22 record they had last year against AL Central teams. Like the Washington Nationals, the team that might be the scariest in the AL Central might be the Kansas City Royals. They have loads of young talent and added a couple veteran arms to the rotation.

If Tigers are healthy all season long, they should win the division comfortably. They won the division by 15 games last year. And I think they widened the gap a little more. 20 games might be a little too cocky. How about an O/U of 16 1/2? Even as bad as it the division is, some other team has to finish at or slightly above .500, don't you think? I mean it's pretty sad if no other team does like last season. So I expect at least one other AL Central team to finish say at 82-80, and it would take 99 wins to get the over. Sounds about right.

[DeadlyDynasty]

If the Royals--despite their improvements--are the most dangerous threat to Detroit, then the Central is even worse than we all thought.:lol

I think Minnesota could surprise a little if Mauer rebounds and Morneau comes back strong, but all in all Detroit could very well be in cruise control with 50 games to go in the season.

The East has 4 competitive teams, the West has the Rangers and Angels (and Oakland could surprise too). One could argue that outside the O's and Mariners, the next 3 worst AL teams are in the Central.

With that advantage I think Detroit wins 102 games this year and takes HFA.

[NewcastleKEG]

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[NewcastleKEG]

Team Stocks NL: Last Years Win Total

Mets - down: <77 wins
Marlins - up: >72

Brewers - MAJOR down: <96 wins
Reds - up: >79

Dbacks - slightly down: <94 wins
Giants - slightly up: >86
Dodgers - down: <82
Rockies - up: >73

[DeadlyDynasty]

Mets could challenge for the worst record in MLB history this year.

[NewcastleKEG]

Team Stocks AL: Last Years Win Total

Yankees - slightly down: <97 wins
Rays - slightly down: <91
Red Sox - slightly up: >90
Orioles - up: >68

Indians - up: >80 wins
Twins - WAY up: >63

Angels - up: >86 wins
Mariners - up: >67

[JamStone]

If the Royals--despite their improvements--are the most dangerous threat to Detroit, then the Central is even worse than we all thought.:lol

I think Minnesota could surprise a little if Mauer rebounds and Morneau comes back strong, but all in all Detroit could very well be in cruise control with 50 games to go in the season.

The East has 4 competitive teams, the West has the Rangers and Angels (and Oakland could surprise too). One could argue that outside the O's and Mariners, the next 3 worst AL teams are in the Central.

With that advantage I think Detroit wins 102 games this year and takes HFA.

The Royals position players are loaded with talent. Eric Hosmer will be a stud in the MLB. Reminds me a lot of Will Clark. He'll put up 30 HRs this year. And I heard on a broadcast last year that some MLB scouts think Salvador Perez is the best catching prospect in the MLB over the past decade. And they're loaded with young starting pitchers too. It's just that well, they're young. They brought Bruce Chen back, and for some unknown reason, his 80 MPH fastball is enough to be effective in the big leagues. It boggles the mind, but he always seems to pitch effectively. Added Jonathan Sanchez, who I really like despite his ups and downs with the Giants. I'm telling you, the Royals are loaded. It's just that they're young.

Minnesota is a wild card because Mauer and Morneau are such great hitters. But they lost a lot of depth in their line-up losing consistent producers Cuddyer and Kubel. And the health of Mauer and Morneau is what will likely be their downfall. I heard rumors there's a serious concern Morneau will never fully recover from his concussion symptoms. And there's also a feeling that Mauer will have to switch positions because if he stays at catcher, durability will be a huge concern. And if he switches positions, his value as a hitter goes way down because he hasn't proven to be a power hitter except for that one year, and definitely not in his new home ballpark. And beyond all that, their pitching sucks. Rotation, bullpen, all of it. Their pitching is bad.

[DeadlyDynasty]

The Royals position players are loaded with talent. Eric Hosmer will be a stud in the MLB. Reminds me a lot of Will Clark. He'll put up 30 HRs this year. And I heard on a broadcast last year that some MLB scouts think Salvador Perez is the best catching prospect in the MLB over the past decade. And they're loaded with young starting pitchers too. It's just that well, they're young. They brought Bruce Chen back, and for some unknown reason, his 80 MPH fastball is enough to be effective in the big leagues. It boggles the mind, but he always seems to pitch effectively. Added Jonathan Sanchez, who I really like despite his ups and downs with the Giants. I'm telling you, the Royals are loaded. It's just that they're young.

Minnesota is a wild card because Mauer and Morneau are such great hitters. But they lost a lot of depth in their line-up losing consistent producers Cuddyer and Kubel. And the health of Mauer and Morneau is what will likely be their downfall. I heard rumors there's a serious concern Morneau will never fully recover from his concussion symptoms. And there's also a feeling that Mauer will have to switch positions because if he stays at catcher, durability will be a huge concern. And if he switches positions, his value as a hitter goes way down because he hasn't proven to be a power hitter except for that one year, and definitely not in his new home ballpark. And beyond all that, their pitching sucks. Rotation, bullpen, all of it. Their pitching is bad.

I hope you're right...it'd be nice to see the Royals as competitive. Hasn't been the case since the days of Brett and Saberhagen. They've had as bad a run as the Pirates it seems.

[NewcastleKEG]

I hope you're right...it'd be nice to see the Royals as competitive. Hasn't been the case since the days of Brett and Saberhagen. They've had as bad a run as the Pirates it seems.
Royals traded talent away. Pirates have always been .500 so they don't get worthwhile draft picks & waste money on over the hill tix sellers

[DeadlyDynasty]

Royals traded talent away. Pirates have always been .500 so they don't get worthwhile draft picks & waste money on over the hill tix sellers

2011: 72-90
2010: 57-105
2009: 62-99
2008: 67-95
2007: 68-94
2006: 67-95
2005: 67-95
2004: 72-89
2003: 75-87
2002: 72-89
2001: 62-100
2000: 69-93
1999: 78-83
1998: 69-93
1997: 79-83
1996: 73-89
1995: 58-86
1994: 53-61 (strike)
1993: 75-87

:tu

[HeatTheBestEver]

Ayyyyyyyy!

We in that thang fo sho dis season! Cant wait to go to walmart and get da freshest shit in stock reppin dat #7 all day errrday niggas!

me and homeboi's celebrated the world series victory early yesterdayy. dis is us doin our thang outside da club yesterday #305gang

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[NewcastleKEG]

75-85 wins is playing sub .500 baseball junior.

[BUMP]

Pirates have always been .500

I hope that was a troll post

[DeadlyDynasty]

75-85 wins is playing sub .500 baseball junior.

The Pirates have had only 4 seasons with at least 75 wins in the past 20 years, including only 1 in the last 13 years and at no point did they eclipse 79 wins.

Care to try again, junior?:lmao

[NewcastleKEG]

The Pirates

Overall (9882-9774 W-L)


50.2%

[John Kramer]

Hello NewcastleKEG......I want to play a game.

For the last few months you have spread your shitty takes, like a virus, to various parts of this forum. Well today, you must stop the spread of something else if you want to survive my little game.

By opening this door you have triggered the timer set for 5 minutes. This task may seem daunting at first, but trust me it isn't as bad as it looks. Like your terrible sports takes, tear gas is spreading through this room as we speak. You must find three keys to open the lock in front of you. Where are these keys you ask? In the giant pile of poop below you. Since you're head is full of shitty sports opinions I felt this would be an easy obstacle for you huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh If you do not hurry, you will find that this gas will begin to give you a headache, the same thing you have given your fellow posters when forcing them to read you're god awful opinions on spurstalk. Be quick and you will walk out that door to your freedom.

Live or die NewcastleKEG.......make your choice.

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[DD]

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[NewcastleKEG]

:wakeup

Nicely done sir. I am here to simply quench the boards thirst for knowledge. Love & kisses

[TIMMYtoZO]

I have liked the Marlins offseason. The Marlins/Phillies games are going to be fun.

[TIMMYtoZO]

Hello NewcastleKEG......I want to play a game.

For the last few months you have spread your shitty takes, like a virus, to various parts of this forum. Well today, you must stop the spread of something else if you want to survive my little game.

By opening this door you have triggered the timer set for 5 minutes. This task may seem daunting at first, but trust me it isn't as bad as it looks. Like your terrible sports takes, tear gas is spreading through this room as we speak. You must find three keys to open the lock in front of you. Where are these keys you ask? In the giant pile of poop below you. Since you're head is full of shitty sports opinions I felt this would be an easy obstacle for you huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh If you do not hurry, you will find that this gas will begin to give you a headache, the same thing you have given your fellow posters when forcing them to read you're god awful opinions on spurstalk. Be quick and you will walk out that door to your freedom.

Live or die NewcastleKEG.......make your choice.

*click*


:lmao

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Royals traded talent away. Pirates have always been .500 so they don't get worthwhile draft picks & waste money on over the hill tix sellers
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[Pelicans78]

Now Newcastle is being a disaster on the MLB board.

Listen, I'm a diehard Royals fan.

The Royals and Pirates have been equally bad for a long time. Both teams are always drafting high first round picks for years. But they've made alot of bad personnel moves as well.

Anyway, back to the Royals. They have a very good offense, a very good defense, a really good bullpen. However, they don't have proven starting pitching. They have young pitchers and some decent veterans who are 4-5 starters at best. They can win 75-80 games, but if they want to compete with Detroit, they need to improve the starting pitching. They have young starting pitchers, but they need to prove themselves.

[Pelicans78]

Honestly JamStone, I didn't like the Royals resigning Bruce Chen for 2 years even though it was only 4.5 million per season. He's been effective, but he's still a 4-5 starter at best. I would have given him a 1 year deal, but not a 2-year deal.

[JamStone]

The last two years, Bruce Chen has done pretty much the same as Mark Buehrle and Buehrle got close to $15 million a year. I think even at two years, Chen's contract is reasonable. He may be a 4-5 starter, but if that's his role, he's a really good #4 or #5. I don't know how he does it with the stuff he has, but every time I see him pitch, he pitches great.

You're right the Royals need to upgrade the top of their rotation, but let's see what Duffy looks like this year, whether Hochever ever turns the corner, and if Jonathan Sanchez can cut his walks down enough to show the promise a few years ago when he threw that no-hitter. Honestly, if they just had one true bonafide ace (ummm Greinke), their rotation wouldn't be bad at all. Maybe they can parlay some of that young talent into one at the trade deadline. I like the talent on the Royals a lot. And I truly believe Hosmer is going to be an MLB star, maybe even superstar. I think he's that good.

[NewcastleKEG]

Now Newcastle is being a disaster on the MLB board.

Listen, I'm a diehard Royals fan.

The Royals and Pirates have been equally bad for a long time. Both teams are always drafting high first round picks for years. But they've made alot of bad personnel moves as well.

Anyway, back to the Royals. They have a very good offense, a very good defense, a really good bullpen. However, they don't have proven starting pitching. They have young pitchers and some decent veterans who are 4-5 starters at best. They can win 75-80 games, but if they want to compete with Detroit, they need to improve the starting pitching. They have young starting pitchers, but they need to prove themselves.
So let me get this straight

- I post that Pirates are a .500 franchise
- I get blasted
- I prove that Pirates are a .500 franchise
- i get blasted

:lol Utterly ruined

[DeadlyDynasty]

A Royals-Marlins WS would be pretty funny, tbh. I wonder what the preseason odds of that are:lol

[NewcastleKEG]

Honestly JamStone, I didn't like the Royals resigning Bruce Chen for 2 years even though it was only 4.5 million per season. He's been effective, but he's still a 4-5 starter at best. I would have given him a 1 year deal, but not a 2-year deal.
A team like the Royals shouldn't be spending 4-5 million for a 4-5 starter, especially a 34 year old pitcher

Dodgers basically got Aaron Harang for the same price but they have much more money to throw around

[Jose Canseco]

So let me get this straight

- I post that Pirates are a .500 franchise
- I get blasted
- I prove that Pirates are a .500 franchise
- i get blasted

:lol Utterly ruined



Royals traded talent away. Pirates have always been .500 so they don't get worthwhile draft picks & waste money on over the hill tix sellers

Your point was that they have "always" been .500 so they don't get worthwhile draft picks. That suggests you talking about every season they have a .500 record, not their overall franchise record. What are worthwhile draft picks?

Last 10 drafts for the Pirates and their first round picks:

2011: 1st pick
2010: 2nd pick
2009: 4th pick
2008: 2nd pick
2007: 4th pick
2006: 4th pick
2005: 11th pick
2004: 11th pick
2003: 8th pick
2002: 1st pick

You think they're really not getting "worthwhile picks" because they're always .500??? What are "worthwhile" draft picks? Hell, they've had 7 top 5 overall picks in the last 10 drafts. You didn't say they're "overall" .500. You said they're "always" .500. They're not. They haven't come close to sniffing .500 in over a decade. They haven't had a winning record in two decades. Over the past 10 seasons, the Pirates are 259 games under .500. The closest to .500 they've been in that span has been 12 games under .500.

They're not "always" .500, and that's why you were getting blasted.

[Goran Dragic]

Jose Canseco, juicin' up and bullyin' niggas

[NewcastleKEG]

I already proved I was correct. People being ignorant is no longer my issue

[DeadlyDynasty]

Newcastle are you a Braves fan? If so that's just too perfect:lol

[NewcastleKEG]

Newcastle are you a Braves fan? If so that's just too perfect:lol
We shall have a lot of fun this season

[TIMMYtoZO]

We shall have a lot of fun this season

:lol So you are a fan of yet another team mine owns. First it is the Heat, then the Giants, and now the Braves. All 3 of my pro teams were responsible for your 3 pro teams getting eliminated. That is hilarious.

[NewcastleKEG]

:lol So you are a fan of yet another team mine owns. First it is the Heat, then the Giants, and now the Braves. All 3 of my pro teams were responsible for your 3 pro teams getting eliminated. That is hilarious.
It is rather shocking

I am a fan of arguably some of the most likeable franchises in sports.
ON THE FLIP SIDE
You are a fan of arguably some of the least likeable franchises in sport


- Giants: 9-7 team that won't shut up
- Phillies: Greatest playoff choke in MLB history?
- Heat: 3 All Stars isn't enough

[NewcastleKEG]

Only a

- Lakers, Yankees & Cowboys fan could match you

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lol So you are a fan of yet another team mine owns. First it is the Heat, then the Giants, and now the Braves. All 3 of my pro teams were responsible for your 3 pro teams getting eliminated. That is hilarious.

:lmaoExactly what I was thinking...you're gonna have a field day with this guy.

2011 Braves: Had 3 chances to win one game against the Phillies (who had nothing to play for), with HFA:lol

2010-11 Bulls: Got curbstomped by Miami in the ECF despite HCA

2011-12 49ers: lost to the Gmen despite HFA

All 3 lost to TtoZ teams, at home no less:lol

[Pelicans78]

So let me get this straight

- I post that Pirates are a .500 franchise
- I get blasted
- I prove that Pirates are a .500 franchise
- i get blasted

:lol Utterly ruined

Typical manipulating the facts.

No one is talking all-time. Look at the Royals record. Before 1994, they were one of the most successful franchises in sports history. We're talking about recent history. The Royals and Pirates have been awful the last 15 years or so. Basically after the 1994 strike which divided the big markets from small markets.

Get your fact straights.

[NewcastleKEG]

:lmaoExactly what I was thinking...you're gonna have a field day with this guy.

2011 Braves: Had 3 chances to win one game against the Phillies (who had nothing to play for), with HFA:lol

2010-11 Bulls: Got curbstomped by Miami in the ECF despite HCA

2011-12 49ers: lost to the Gmen despite HFA

All 3 lost to TtoZ teams, at home no less:lol
Except for the Heat, all those teams are on the down swing & Giants won't even make the playoffs next year

[DeadlyDynasty]

Except for the Heat, all those teams are on the down swing & Giants won't even make the playoffs next year

Giants are getting a bunch of talent back off of IR next year. Their tough schedule next year is the only thing that can hold them back, but they had a brutal one this year too and as a result were the most playoff-ready team.

The Phillies still have the best rotation in the game.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

only 4 days, nikkras!

[DeadlyDynasty]

Im loving the Carnivale chicks escorting the players out. :lol

Here we go:toast

[DeadlyDynasty]

Muhammad Ali looks like he'd be a beast if you gave him some turntables

[Darth_Pelican]

Like the jerseys. Hate the hats. The stadium looks great. I'm just wondering if it will be empty by game 15.

[DeadlyDynasty]

JJ rusty out the gate...cards still have good bats tho

[DeadlyDynasty]

Crap game

[Darth_Pelican]

18 innings of baseball and the Marlins have a grand total of 7 hits and 1 run. Ouch

[DeadlyDynasty]

18 innings of baseball and the Marlins have a grand total of 7 hits and 1 run. Ouch

It's the uniforms, I tell ya.

[dirkdirkastan]

So now we have the official Miami Marlins thread, the official Buffalo Bills thread... where is the official Columbus Blue Jackets thread?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Florida Panthers...keep up lil nlgga, im tired of carrying your ass

[DeadlyDynasty]

Now that's the Marlins we were supposed to see. The bats woke up and Stanton went nuts.

Ricky was money today, going 8 strong and only really throwing 2 bad pitches all day. Bell finally got some work and was lights out in the 9th.

Some of the bats still need to wake up (Hanley, Gaby, and LoMo)...but it's only 3 games.

[Findog]

Can somebody answer this for me? Do people in Miami really care or give a shit what Ozzie Guillen thinks about Fidel Castro? Or is this some sort of manufactured media controversy designed to draw pageviews?

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Can somebody answer this for me? Do people in Miami really care or give a shit what Ozzie Guillen thinks about Fidel Castro? Or is this some sort of manufactured media controversy designed to draw pageviews?

Oh they definitely do. The old school Cubans all fled b/c of him and most have had family imprisoned or killed by his government.

I personally don't think it was a big deal...Ozzie was just being absentminded with his comments (as usual), but Le Batard said it right: Castro's looked upon in the same light as Hitler to Cubans.

[Findog]

Oh they definitely do. The old school Cubans all fled b/c of him and most have had family imprisoned or killed by his government.

I personally don't think it was a big deal...Ozzie was just being absentminded with his comments (as usual), but Le Batard said it right: Castro's looked upon in the same light as Hitler to Cubans.

Yeah, but the people that fled Cuba are all in their 80's...they don't go to Marlins games or buy Marlins gear. Their grandkids don't care.

I mean, is it so beyond the pale to say anything about the situation besides "Castro's bad!"? The embargo probably hurts the Cuban people at this point more than the regime does.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Yeah, but the people that fled Cuba are all in their 80's...they don't go to Marlins games or buy Marlins gear. Their grandkids don't care.

I mean, is it so beyond the pale to say anything about the situation besides "Castro's bad!"? The embargo probably hurts the Cuban people at this point more than the regime does.

lol, no dude. People are STILL fleeing Cuba all the time. Most of the residents are first-generation Americans still. My pops remarried (she's Cuban), and although I've never been a fan of hers, her family is fucking awesome and vehemently anti-Castro. I've had a couple g/f's who are Cuban as well (both were 1st-gen Americans) and you basically couldn't utter Castro's name around them.

I know it sounds like I'm blowing this out of proportion but the dude is hated like the plague down there. Remember Marge Schott? That level of stupidity, as far as off the cuff remarks are concerned.

Once again I don't find it THAT big a deal, but down there that's a big no-no.

[Findog]

lol, no dude. People are STILL fleeing Cuba all the time. Most of the residents are first-generation Americans still. My pops remarried (she's Cuban), and although I've never been a fan of hers, her family is fucking awesome and vehemently anti-Castro. I've had a couple g/f's who are Cuban as well (both were 1st-gen Americans) and you basically couldn't utter Castro's name around them.

I know it sounds like I'm blowing this out of proportion but the dude is hated like the plague down there. Remember Marge Schott? That level of stupidity, as far as off the cuff remarks are concerned.

Once again I don't find it THAT big a deal, but down there that's big no-no.

Okay. I was just curious. It just seems like people are making a bigger deal about it than necessary. I mean he apologized, what more do you want?

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Okay. I was just curious. It just seems like people are making a bigger deal about it than necessary. I mean he apologized, what more do you want?

I agree, his apology should be accepted and his previous comments taken with a grain of salt, but I understand the backlash all the same. A lot of these people lost their businesses, family members, and had to uproot their lives to escape this guy--so when idiots say they "love and/or respect Fidel Castro," it pisses them off. To me it's like retards and college kids who deify Che Guevara (Castro's good buddy) w/o knowing anything about him except "Viva la Revolucion!"

[O.J. Simpson]

It's a shame Castro didn't get all of them before they escaped. Whiniest bitches in America.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

black people whine more...one dead spook (trayvon) has the whole tribe up in arms

[O.J. Simpson]

The Miami population is made up of upper-class Cubans that ran away like mice in the 60s. Then the wetbacks received the most government handouts in U.S. history.

And now they bitch because a man expresses his first-amendment opinion. Gotta love 'em. Does he get suspended if he says he wants Castro dead?

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

The Miami population is made up of upper-class Cubans that ran away like mice in the 60s. Then the wetbacks received the most government handouts in U.S. history.

And now they bitch because a man expresses his first-amendment opinion. Gotta love 'em. Does he get suspended if he says he wants Castro dead?

That's why you have to applaud Cubans in the first place, imo. They went from having everything to fleeing the country then building back up again in a new country--not only surviving, but thriving as upper-class people like you said. That's what differentiates them from Mexicans--who are satisfied with being the skidmark on the underpants of society.

For the record I think it's asinine he got suspended at all, but the Marlins are just doing damage control b/c they don't have the loyal fan base that'll be there no matter what. Just a business protecting its image. It's ludicrous from our perspective, I agree.

[O.J. Simpson]

That's why you have to applaud Cubans in the first place, imo. They went from having everything to fleeing the country then building back up again in a new country--not only surviving, but thriving as upper-class people like you said. That's what differentiates them from Mexicans--who are satisfied with being the skidmark on the underpants of society.

For the record I think it's asinine he got suspended at all, but the Marlins are just doing damage control b/c they don't have the loyal fan base that'll be there no matter what. Just a business protecting its image. It's ludicrous from our perspective, I agree.

It's well documented Cubans fleeing in the 60s received special treatment from the US govt (even legislation was passed) for the Cold War propaganda. They got billions in no-interest loans to start businesses, Medicare, public assistance. Hence why i said handouts, Cubans didn't pull themselves from their bootstraps or some other bullshit.

The team needs to grow a pair and say a man has the right to express his political views. That won't happen, but whatever.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Juice, you bought me a beer at Corbett's Bar and Grill 8 years ago, and I returned the favor when I ran into you at Dave and Buster's a couple months after that. We talked Bills football, not about murder, politics, or Cubans. Do you remember?

[O.J. Simpson]

:king Beer and the Bills is all I need.

But that was before they gave me 33 years for stealing my own shit. I still catch the games in cell though.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

:king Beer and the Bills is all I need.

But that was before they gave me 33 years for stealing my own shit. I still catch the games in cell though.

:lol

I need beer because of the Bills.

[JamStone]

http://www.trbimg.com/img-4f84a7e4/turbine/sns-bal-lets-not-forget-that-selig-and-angelos-002/600

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

I asked Bud to autograph that pic but he declined

[O.J. Simpson]

Hypocritical cocksucker. I swear I could kill right now.

[DAF86]

lol suspended for speaking his mind
lol Nazis

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Lol soccer
Lol sport of homos

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Roy Halladay vs Josh Johnson tonight:toast

[Axe Murderer]

Roy Halladay vs Josh Johnson tonight:toast

my peepee got hard but then i realized i don't live in the respective Philadelphia and Miami metropolitan areas so i can't watch:depressed

[TIMMYtoZO]

Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Josh Johnson and Mark Buehrle are a combined 0-4, but they've recieved a combined 3 runs of support in those 4 games. This team fucking blows right now...they better cork their bats or juice up, I can't stake 155 more games of this shit.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Good to see HanRam and LoMo finally show up. This team blows, though...very disappointing so far.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Back at .500

Their most complete performance of the season so far. Bats were great and Buehrle was a boss.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Heath Bell has been a disaster.

[midnightpulp]

Thanks for the help, DD.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Something is seriously wrong with Josh Johnson...dude is terrible so far this year. Heath Bell needs to be designated too. Still, I'll take a 4-0 May, all things considered.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Buehrle pitched a complete game gem today. Marlins are 5-0 this month, and loving the west coast.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Ricky Nolasco is a peemp...finally back at. 500

[DeadlyDynasty]

Our bats are terrible.

[Goran Dragic]

If Reyes and Ramirez ever woke up they'd be a good team

[DeadlyDynasty]

Only 3 backs of the Nats despite the horrible performances from JJ, Bell, HanRam, Reyes, and Sanchez so far.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Stanton:smokin

[DeadlyDynasty]

Despite all the craptastic play so far, they're tied with the Mets for the 2nd WC spot with 125 games left to improve.

[Goran Dragic]

:lol why did Ryan Fitzpatrick's posts get put on ignore by Kori?

[DeadlyDynasty]

I think Slomo did it.

[DeadlyDynasty]

http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=320521128

Check out Gio Stanton's Grand Slam in that game....dude broke the scoreboard with a near-500 footer:smokin

[Goran Dragic]

The NL East is unreal. IMO the Mets and Nationals will eventually fade and the Phillies will eventually make a run. The Marlins are basically the Wild Card of the Division. As good as their starters have been they have potential to be better given Josh Johnson and Nolasco have underachieved so far. Obviously their batting depends on Reyes and Ramirez. Easily one of the most talented teams in baseball.

[DeadlyDynasty]

The NL East is unreal. IMO the Mets and Nationals will eventually fade and the Phillies will eventually make a run. The Marlins are basically the Wild Card of the Division. As good as their starters have been they have potential to be better given Josh Johnson and Nolasco have underachieved so far. Obviously their batting depends on Reyes and Ramirez. Easily one of the most talented teams in baseball.

Reyes and Ramirez are starting to pick it up...another solid outing from them tonight. LoMo and Gaby are playing like complete ass still, though. Heath Bell has actually looked like a major league pitcher his last few innings as well. Our rotation will keep us competitive all year...even Zambrano is having a stellar year with a sub 2.00 era and he's our 4th starter.

Stanton makes them fun to watch though. He's got that halfbreed blood coursing through his veins...the best of both worlds imho

[Stevie Johnson]

Them nigz is lookin pretty swole

[DeadlyDynasty]

Sweep of the division-leading Nats...now Miami's only .5 back of them, with the 3rd best record overall in the NL. Hopefully this June is better than last year's catastrophe.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Hopefully the Carlos Lee acquisition pays off. Good god June has been a hellish month for this team the last few years.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Think this may havr been the first time all season that the mrlins hit double-digit runs.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Stanton with 34 HR's despite missing 30 games...Marlin fan(s) better enjoy him before he's wearing pinstripes.

[baseline bum]

LOL blowing up the team yet again.

[lefty]

lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

Loria is the Antichrist.

[Findog]

Loria should be forced to sell the Marlins, then they should move to Montreal and be rechristened the Expos. That would bring things full circle quite nicely.

[lefty]

Loria should be forced to sell the Marlins, then they should move to Montreal and be rechristened the Expos. That would bring things full circle quite nicely.

I dig this scenario

[Clipper Nation]

Loria should be forced to sell the Marlins, then they should move to Montreal and be rechristened the Expos. That would bring things full circle quite nicely.

Except as a former Expos fan, I'd be stuck with a shit AAAA team to root for :lol

[lefty]

Except as a former Expos fan, I'd be stuck with a shit AAAA team to root for :lol

true :lol


Fucking 1994 lockout :cry