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Brazil
02-13-2012, 11:42 AM
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By Tom Ziller (http://www.sbnation.com/authors/tom-ziller) - NBA Editor


Tony Parker has long been one of the league's best point guards, but adoration of purity in the position has resulted in a lack of widespread recognition of the Spur's wonderful achievement. Does Derrick Rose's universal acclaim change the equation?



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Feb 9, 2012 - Tony Parker (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21781/tony-parker) is on one of those occasional scoring benders he likes to put together. He scored 42 on Saturday in a mammoth win over the Thunder (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/oklahoma-city-thunder), and dropped 37 on Wednesday (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2012/2/9/2786406/tony-parker-san-antonio-spurs-philadelphia-76ers-score) as the San Antonio Spurs (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/san-antonio-spurs) reeled off their sixth straight win, five of them over legit playoff contenders. Parker has done this before: back in 2008-09, he unleashed a hellacious opening week that included a 32-point game and a 55-point outburst. Later that season, he had 37 and 39 back-to-back, then later 30 and 42.
Parker is, of course, a point guard, and for the longest time the idea of a point guard taking enough shots to score 30, 37, 42, 55 points was darned close to heretical. Just five years ago, the media gave Steve Nash (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21914/steve-nash) two MVPs for reviving the ideals of purity in the point guard. This isn't to say that Nash didn't deserve the awards, but that through his purity (as manifested in his assist totals), the common perception of his value was ... emphasized. (As someone who thinks Shaq ought to have won MVP in 2005, I resisted using the word "bloated" there.)


For basically the entire reign of Nash, what we'll call 2001-2010, purity in point guards was highly desired. "Court vision" became almost as ubiquitous a draft gush as "length." Lead guards like Stephon Marbury (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21904/stephon-marbury), Steve Francis (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21897/steve-francis) and Gilbert Arenas (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21829/gilbert-arenas) were denigrated, sometimes fairly and sometimes not. The source of this thirst for purity is debatable; don't think that the fact that Cousy, Stockton and Nash -- three prominent white players on great, primarily black teams -- symbolize the ideal itself is irrelevant. The NBA point guard position isn't all that dissimilar from the NFL quarterback position in this respect: whether subconscious or not, race tends to play a role in the general sentiment of a player's fitness to lead other men. Long-held biases are resilient. See Bomani Jones' superb Cam Newton draft retrospective (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/12/29/2668443/cam-newton-carolina-panthers-racism-2011) for more on the subject.


But something odd happened last season: the world fell in love with an impure point guard, Derrick Rose (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/50189/derrick-rose). Without the two championships the world's last beloved impure PG -- Isiah Thomas -- had won, Rose assimilated all corners en route to a dominant MVP vote triumph. His personality played a role; it wasn't February before Rick Reilly was touting Rose's MVP credentials (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/1/25/1955515/derrick-rose-mvp-kevin-durant) by using his innocence and accessibility to fans as a platform. The fact that the Bulls (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/chicago-bulls) were so wonderful, and that on many nights Rose was the only Bull who looked like an actual NBA player on the offensive end, certainly helped his case. But largely, the sporting world forgave Rose for the impurity embedded in a 25-point, 8-assist average. Just five years after Nash's second MVP, the NBA community embraced an impure point guard and him its king.


... which leaves me wondering why Parker has never gotten a similar level of respect.
To be sure, Rose in 2010-11 was better than Parker has been most seasons, with the possible exception of the 2008-09 mentioned up top, which is pretty close to a push, all told. It isn't as if Parker has failed to achieve wonderful team success with three championships and a Finals MVP award. (You can't fake it in the Finals, and those MVP awards rarely go to the wrong player. There was no way any Spur but Parker would win it in 2007.) Since Parker's 2001 debut, the Spurs have more wins than any other NBA team.


There's certainly plenty of credit bifurcation in San Antonio: Tim Duncan (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21776/tim-duncan) is rightly considered a legend, and a huge reason for the team's success. Manu Ginobili (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21775/manu-ginobili) similarly earns deserved accolades for continued excellence. But over the last few seasons, campaigns in which Duncan has aged rapidly before our eyes and Ginobili has missed swaths of games, Parker has been there, playing at a high level and keeping the Spurs competitive against every opponent. Yet he's never finished higher than No. 8 in MVP voting, hasn't made the All-Star team since 2009 and owns just one All-NBA honor -- a third team bid in 2009. He's been an incredible player for 10 years now, with great team success and excellent numbers ... and to date, his legacy is almost equally his marriage to Eva Longoria and alleged affair with Brent Barry's (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21774/brent-barry) wife as it is his on-court performance.


It's not hard to imagine that if Parker had fewer 30-point outbursts and more 12-assist games, no matter what the Spurs actually needed (which has usually been his scoring), he'd have earned more positive notoriety by this point. If there's a bright light to be had, it's that Parker is just 29, so there's plenty of time for a Jason Kidd (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21554/jason-kidd) or Chauncey Billups (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/players/21686/chauncey-billups) style twilight, where Parker's leadership and veteran savvy (two fuzzy but point guard-y ideals) can earn the respect his powerful performance has never managed to grab en masse.


Seeing Rose, styled in the mold of Parker, earn universal acclaim is a positive step forward in our collective reception to point guards who do not emulate Stockton or Cousy. But that Parker had to suffer while the league was blinded by Nash's stylistic purity is unfortunate, and we can only hope that the Spurs' continued power leads to more laurels for the Frenchman's head.




didn't see posted

Brazil
02-13-2012, 11:47 AM
A TP interview in a french newspaper today

«Tony Parker, entre le titre de joueur de la semaine, votre sélection au All Star Game, et la très bonne période que traverse votre équipe, tout va pour le mieux pour vous en ce moment...
C'est vrai que tout va bien en ce moment, tant au niveau collectif que personnel. L'équipe tourne bien, nous sommes invaincus depuis le début du mois de février (ndlr : six victoires d'affilée) et je me sens très en jambes depuis le début de la saison. Je suis très content d'avoir été sélectionné pour participer au All Star Game (http://www.lequipe.fr/Basket/Actualites/Parker-jamais-trois-sans-quatre/262454), c'est un grand honneur pour moi. Le fait de savoir que les entraineurs m'aient choisi me rend très heureux (sourire).

«L'équipe qui aura le meilleur banc ira au bout»

L'absence de Manu Ginobili ne semble pas avoir eu d'effet négatif sur votre équipe qui réalise une très bonne première partie de saison. Comment l'expliquez-vous ?
L'absence de Manu Ginobili a été, au final, un mal pour un bien. Cela a permis à certains de nos jeunes joueurs d'avoir du temps de jeu et de montrer de quoi ils sont capables. Par exemple, je ne pensais pas qu'un joueur comme Danny Green pouvait aussi rapidement élever son niveau de jeu. Kawhi Leonard a également réalisé de très belles prestations. L'absence de Manu a été compensée, mais son retour est également une très bonne nouvelle pour nous.

Étant donné l'âge avancé de certains cadres de l'équipe (Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili) et l'enchaînement des matches à un rythme soutenu, la présence de ces jeunes peut s'avérer être extrêmement importante...
Oui, c'est certain. Le fait de savoir que l'on peut compter sur les joueurs du banc est essentiel. Étant donné le format particulier de cette saison, la fatigue et les possibles blessures de certains cadres, il est indispensable d'avoir une excellente rotation. De toute façon en NBA, il n'y a pas de secret : aucune équipe ne peut prétendre au titre sans avoir une certaine profondeur de banc. Cette saison plus qu'une autre étant donné le calendrier «inhumain» que l'on nous a mis en place. L'équipe qui aura le meilleur banc ira au bout.
Aux JO «on peut faire de belles choses»



Après l'affront de l'an passé et l'élimination prématurée au premier tour des Play-offs, les Spurs sont-ils animés cette saison d'un sentiment de revanche ?
Un peu, oui. L'élimination de la saison dernière (4 victoires à 2 en faveur des Memphis Grizzlies, ndlr) a été très difficile à digérer, mais cela fait dorénavant partie du passé. De toute façon, lorsque l'on joue dans une équipe comme les San Antonio Spurs, il n'y a pas d'autre objectif que le titre. C'est dans l'ADN de ce club. Nous allons tout donner pour essayer de décrocher un nouveau sacre. La concurrence sera rude avec Oklahoma City et Miami qui sont, pour moi, les meilleures équipes de la ligue à l'heure actuelle mais nous avons les armes pour aller au bout. Même si certains estiment que nous sommes trop vieux, il faudra, comme tous les ans, compter sur les Spurs dans la lutte pour le titre.

L'échéance des prochains Jeux Olympiques est-elle déjà à l'esprit ?
J'y pense de temps en temps, mais pour l'instant, je reste concentré sur la saison NBA. Il faudra que l'on continue sur la bonne dynamique de l'Euro. On peut faire de belles choses, rééditer le même genre de performance qu'en Lituanie. Pour ma génération, cela fait dix ans que l'on court après les J.O, c'est un rêve qui se réalise».

DesignatedT
02-13-2012, 11:54 AM
The fact that Tony finished 8th in MVP voting one year is pretty incredible in itself tbh.

Brazil
02-13-2012, 12:10 PM
In English in the text

TP, with the player of the week distinction, your selection to the ASG and the serie of 6 wins of the spurs, everything is good for you right now...

It's true that everything is doing fine lately for me and the team. The team is playing great, we are undefeated since the beginning of the month and I feel I'm in a good shape this season. I'm very happy to have been chosen to go to the ASG, it's a great honor for me. The fact the coaches selected me makes me very happy.

The lack of Manu Ginobili doesn't seem to have negative effect on the team that is having a very good beginning of the season. How do you explain that ?

Manu injury has been a bad for a good. It gave plenty of playing time for some of our players to show what they worth. For instance I didn't think a player like Danny could quickly step up his game. KL has been playing very well too. We have compensated Manu missing all these games but his return is also a very good news for the team.

Because of all the TOSB in the team and the crazy calendar, the presence of young players can be very important.

For sure, the fact we can count on players coming off the bench is essential. Considering the shortened season, the fatigue and the potential injuries of key players, it is vital to have depth. Anyway in the NBA there is no secret, no team can be contender without having depth. This season more than a normal one with the "inhuman" calendar. The team with the best bench will win it all.

After the big disappointment of last year, will the spurs be in a mission ?

A little yes. The last year elimination has been very hard to swallow, but this is the past. Anyway when we play for the spurs, we have no other objective than the title. Its in the DNA of the club. We are going to do everything we can to get the title. The competition is fierce with Miami and OKC that are, for me, the best two teams in the league right now but we have the weapons to win it all. Even though some think we are too old, it will be necessary to count on the spurs like every year.

EVAY
02-13-2012, 12:16 PM
Thanks for the post...

FWIW, a couple of comments on the translations...mostly they are just fine, but as I was reading the French, I laughed at Tony's "Oh, definitely" response to the question on young players stepping up. The translation came up "For sure", but we all know that Tony means "Oh, Definitely".

The translation of the Manu's injury piece is awkward but the gist of the meaning comes through.

Thanks again. Nice piece.

The ADMIRAL 50
02-13-2012, 02:03 PM
hear! hear!

great article, thanks for posting :toast

lefty
02-13-2012, 02:06 PM
SB Nation :lmao

will_spurs
02-13-2012, 03:06 PM
SB Nation :lmao

Butthurt much?

lefty
02-13-2012, 03:40 PM
Butthurt much?
Yeah, because they say nice things on TP, all of sudden SB has good articles


:lol

SpursNextRomanEmpire
02-13-2012, 03:53 PM
I'm not sure I can see Parker becoming something like a Nash. He's always seemed like a scoring point guard to me.

Brazil
02-13-2012, 04:35 PM
Yeah, because they say nice things on TP, all of sudden SB has good articles


:lol

lol Lefty

the fact that it is a SB nation doesn't prevent the article from being interesting or not.

Brazil
02-13-2012, 04:37 PM
I'm not sure I can see Parker becoming something like a Nash. He's always seemed like a scoring point guard to me.

article is not stating tp is becoming something like nash

will_spurs
02-13-2012, 04:37 PM
Somebody somewhere is saying something nice about TP, and they MUST be wrong.

fify

SpursNextRomanEmpire
02-13-2012, 09:22 PM
article is not stating tp is becoming something like nash

I didn't say that I think Parker is turning into a Nash, I said that I don't see that happening in the future.

The article says "so there's plenty of time for a Jason Kidd or Chauncey Billups style twilight, where Parker's leadership and veteran savvy (two fuzzy but point guard-y ideals)"

And I thought that that is also a good picture of what Nash has turned into throughout the past few seasons.

Brazil
02-15-2012, 09:20 PM
lol lefty tbh fwiw