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DeadlyDynasty
02-13-2012, 08:39 PM
Not necessarily who should win, but who will win? LeBron would be my choice, but are the voters ready to get behind him again?

Rose is injured, Howard is great but kinda going through the motions till he's traded...

DAF86
02-13-2012, 08:41 PM
Lebron would win it getting all first place votes.

NewcastleKEG
02-13-2012, 08:43 PM
Probably Kobe

Heat win games without James so I fail to see the point of voting the most VALUABLE player award to him. James admitted he knew individual awards would be the cost of joining the Heat.

There is a reason Malone & Barkley won MVP's when MJ was around. LeBron getting the regular season MVP award would be hilarious

DPG21920
02-13-2012, 08:43 PM
Dpg

DAF86
02-13-2012, 08:46 PM
Do you realize that LeBron is having one of the greatest statistical seasons of all time

Ashy Larry
02-13-2012, 08:48 PM
LeBron easily ....... and well deserved. Fits all criteria. Team with damn good record. Team close to or at the top. Kick ass stats to go along with it.

NewcastleKEG
02-13-2012, 08:48 PM
RIGHT NOW


1. Kobe
2. Howard
3. Rose
4. Durant
5. Love

HarlemHeat37
02-13-2012, 08:50 PM
Lebron and Durant are the only candidates, at the moment..

The fact that the Heat were successful without Wade helps Lebron's case, tbh..

It's essential that the MVP's team finishes in the top 4 in their conference..Orlando won't finish in the top 4, neither will the Lakers(Orlando is 6th, LA is 5th atm)..

baseline bum
02-13-2012, 08:52 PM
LeBron easily

Reck
02-13-2012, 08:53 PM
Kobe just based on the heavy minutes and the 15 or so wins by himself.

Cause lets be honest, all the Lakers win are thanks to one single person on that entire squad.

resistanze
02-13-2012, 08:53 PM
RIGHT NOW


1. Kobe
2. Howard
3. Rose
4. Durant
5. Love

See now I KNOW you're trolling bah.

JamStone
02-13-2012, 08:54 PM
1. LeBron
2. Kobe
3. Durant

Reck
02-13-2012, 08:55 PM
See now I KNOW you're trolling bah.

Why?

That list could be considered legit.

Although I would leave out Kevin Love entirely.

Pelicans78
02-13-2012, 08:56 PM
RIGHT NOW


1. Kobe
2. Howard
3. Rose
4. Durant
5. Love

Terrible list. Just awful. Kobe is no where near the MVP. Bulls have won more games without Rose than the Heat have without Lebron.

resistanze
02-13-2012, 08:57 PM
Omitting LeBron from the top 3, not to even talk about the top 5, delegitimizes the list.

Giuseppe
02-13-2012, 08:57 PM
I smell pussy & asshole.

baseline bum
02-13-2012, 08:58 PM
1. LeBron
2. Lin
3. Kobe

Pelicans78
02-13-2012, 08:59 PM
Lebron
Paul
Love
Durant

rayjayjohnson
02-13-2012, 08:59 PM
something something something my dad something something something celtics something something something asshurt something something something my dad again

DeadlyDynasty
02-13-2012, 09:01 PM
^
:lmao

ray, with the post of the day:lol

HarlemHeat37
02-13-2012, 09:06 PM
I forgot about Paul, he would be #3 on my list..

1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Paul
4. Kobe
5. Love

CP could be #2, he has been dominant in the 4th quarter, during the past month..

NewcastleKEG
02-13-2012, 09:07 PM
Omitting LeBron from the top 3, not to even talk about the top 5, delegitimizes the list.
We are discussing the most valuable player award NOT most athletic or gifted player in the league


James, Durant & Paul have team mates also in the MVP discussion. They should cancel each other out

DeadlyDynasty
02-13-2012, 09:08 PM
I completely forgot about CP3...good call, HH

NewcastleKEG
02-13-2012, 09:09 PM
I forgot about Paul, he would be #3 on my list..

1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Paul
4. Kobe
5. Love

CP could be #2, he has been dominant in the 4th quarter, during the past month..
:lol

1. Wade/Bosh
2. Westbrook/Harden
3. Blake

Pelicans78
02-13-2012, 09:09 PM
I completely forgot about CP3...good call, HH

I said it before he did.

Pelicans78
02-13-2012, 09:10 PM
:lol

1. Wade/Bosh
2. Westbrook/Harden
3. Blake

Neither of those guys are MVP candidates :lol


Lebron and Paul do more for their team than Rose does for the Bulls. Fact.

ChrisRichards
02-13-2012, 09:10 PM
Westbrook is outshining Durant, Rose is a bit worse than last year and Kobe's 44% FG and 6th seeded Lakers ain't gonna cut it.


This will be Lebron's 3rd regular season MVP, no doubt.

HarlemHeat37
02-13-2012, 09:11 PM
:lol Derrick Rose's team is 5-2 without him, including 3 30-point wins:lol..

Their only losses being by 4 against Boston, and @ Memphis, playoff teams:lol..

DPG21920
02-13-2012, 09:11 PM
:lol Why does typing "Lebron" auto correct to "Dpg" ???

DeadlyDynasty
02-13-2012, 09:11 PM
I said it before he did.

:lol good call, 78

TDMVPDPOY
02-13-2012, 09:12 PM
dunno how you can have kobe

if he be more unselfish and share the load with drew and gasol, maybe he wouldnt have to carry the team....

NewcastleKEG
02-13-2012, 09:13 PM
Neither of those guys are MVP candidates :lol


Lebron and Paul do more for their team than Rose does for the Bulls. Fact.
Westbrook & Blake are MVP candidates

Bulls w/o Rose = 8th seed
Heat w/o James = 5th seed
Clippers w/o Paul = 8th seed

Pelicans78
02-13-2012, 09:14 PM
:lol Derrick Rose's team is 5-2 without him, including 3 30-point wins:lol..

Their only losses being by 4 against Boston, and @ Memphis, playoff teams:lol..

You can't reason using facts with that fool. He thinks like your average journalist. Too lazy to look up the facts.

NewcastleKEG
02-13-2012, 09:16 PM
You can't reason using facts with that fool. He thinks like your average journalist. Too lazy to look up the facts.
And who did the Bulls defeat w/o Rose.....?

Thought so

Pelicans78
02-13-2012, 09:20 PM
Westbrook & Blake are MVP candidates

Bulls w/o Rose = 8th seed
Heat w/o James = 5th seed
Clippers w/o Paul = 8th seed

We're talking about if the season ended today.

Lebron and Paul have done more for their teams so far than Rose has for the Bulls. That's a fact.

Pelicans78
02-13-2012, 09:20 PM
Bulls would be 19-11 without Rose right now.

NewcastleKEG
02-13-2012, 09:21 PM
We're talking about if the season ended today.

Lebron and Paul have done more for their teams so far than Rose has for the Bulls. That's a fact.
Have they?

Bulls have the superior record & yet their SG has been out all season

Haven't the Bulls played the most road games to start the season vs the Clippers playing the most home games

People are just excited to see the new face in a new place

Pelicans78
02-13-2012, 09:23 PM
Clippers would be 13-12 without Paul. Wasn't like Blake did alot for the Clip last season.

Heat would be 15-13 without Lebron since Wade missed alot of games too.

Pelicans78
02-13-2012, 09:25 PM
Have they?

Bulls have the superior record & yet their SG has been out all season

Haven't the Bulls played the most road games to start the season vs the Clippers playing the most home games

People are just excited to see the new face in a new place

Bulls have won a lot of games without Rose too.

Rip Hamilton has played half the games so far. Besides Korver and Brewer are playing much better than him anyway.

Bulls have the best bench in the league so far. Boozer and Noah have been great this season. Heck even Deng made the All-Star team.

You're just underrating your team just to be Rose's ball-licker.

NewcastleKEG
02-13-2012, 09:27 PM
I have no issue with Rose not winning the MVP this year because it was mathematically impossible for them to match the win total from last year but

James winning an individual award like the MVP with 2 All Stars on his roster is fucking LAUGHABLE.

If you have 3 All Stars on your team you should be winning 60+ games a season. NO EXCUSES

Pelicans78
02-13-2012, 09:31 PM
I have no issue with Rose not winning the MVP this year because it was mathematically impossible for them to match the win total from last year but

James winning an individual award like the MVP with 2 All Stars on his roster is fucking LAUGHABLE.

If you have 3 All Stars on your team you should be winning 60+ games a season. NO EXCUSES

How is it laughable when he does so much for the team? He does everything for the Heat offensively and defensively. He gets his team more involved than Rose and he scores as well. He's flat out the MVP because he's doing more for his team than anyone else. I don't care who's on his team. I care about results. The results show he's doing more for his team than anyone else. The numbers back him up.

resistanze
02-13-2012, 09:33 PM
NewcastleKEG's hate of the Heat, Giants, and black dongs is too much...

HarlemHeat37
02-13-2012, 09:35 PM
If the criteria for the MVP award was literally the most valuable player to his team, the results of the award would be drastically different..

2011: Dwight Howard
2010: Lebron James or Dwyane Wade
2009: Lebron James
2008: Lebron James or Chris Paul
2007: Kobe Bryant
2006: Kobe Bryant
2005: Kevin Garnett
2004: ??
2003: Tracy McGrady

All these players were more valuable to their respective teams than any of the actual award winners..

Pelicans78
02-13-2012, 09:39 PM
If the criteria for the MVP award was literally the most valuable player to his team, the results of the award would be drastically different..

2011: Dwight Howard
2010: Lebron James
2009: Lebron James
2008: Lebron James or Chris Paul
2007: Kobe Bryant
2006: Kobe Bryant
2005: Kevin Garnett
2004: ??
2003: Tracy McGrady

That's pretty much true although I give Paul the slight edge over Lebron in 2008 :p:

Honestly, Lebron had a great case last season as well. Yeah he was a part of the big 3, but the Heat had no bench and no one else outside of that.

Also Dirk had a great case in 2006 and 2007. He was pretty valuable to those Mavs teams in the regular season.

NewcastleKEG
02-13-2012, 09:39 PM
How is it laughable when he does so much for the team? He does everything for the Heat offensively and defensively. He gets his team more involved than Rose and he scores as well. He's flat out the MVP because he's doing more for his team than anyone else. I don't care who's on his team. I care about results. The results show he's doing more for his team than anyone else. The numbers back him up.
Does LeBron get an assist when his team mate misses the shot?
Does James get a rebound when his team mates guy made his shot?
Does James get a point when the defense triple teams him?

Your ignoring how James benefits playing on the most talented team in the league. I'd love to see James try and duplicate his numbers on a slow tempo team like the Celtics

I will say this. If James is to win another MVP before Wade completely falls apart, it's going to be before he wins a title.

DeadlyDynasty
02-13-2012, 09:40 PM
Garnett in 04 and Shaq in 05

Pelicans78
02-13-2012, 09:41 PM
Does LeBron get an assist when his team mate misses the shot?
Does James get a rebound when his team mates guy made his shot?
Does James get a point when the defense triple teams him?

Your ignoring how James benefits playing on the most talented team in the league. I'd love to see James try and duplicate his numbers on a slow tempo team like the Celtics

I will say this. If James is to win another MVP before Wade completely falls apart, it's going to be before he wins a title.

James put up big time numbers in Cleveland which were slow paced teams.

Pelicans78
02-13-2012, 09:44 PM
Garnett in 04 and Shaq in 05

Easily Garnett in 2004. Easily.

2005 is tricky. Garnett had a tremendous season on a crappy team. Dirk and Amare were great as well. Amare made Nash look really good. Shaq and Wade were both strong that season

HarlemHeat37
02-13-2012, 09:54 PM
Those weren't my choices for MVP based on the actual criteria, they were examples of "value", tbh..

If I had to vote for the award, based on the criteria, I'd go:

2011: Dwight Howard/Derrick Rose toss-up
2010: Lebron James
2009: Lebron James
2008: Kobe Bryant/Chris Paul toss-up
2007: Dirk Nowitzki
2006: Steve Nash
2005: Shaquille O'Neal
2004: Kevin Garnett
2003: Tim Duncan
2002: Tim Duncan
2001: Shaquille O'Neal
2000: Shaquille O'Neal

Brazil
02-13-2012, 10:27 PM
Lbj then Durant

DMC
02-13-2012, 10:35 PM
I smell pussy & asshole.
You must be sleeping in the van again.

8FOR!3
02-13-2012, 10:57 PM
1. Andrea Bargnani
2. Danilo Gallinari
3. Marco Belinelli
4. Matt Bonner
5. Shane Heal

Any of those five, or Linsanity.

ElNono
02-13-2012, 11:18 PM
Lebron and Durant are the only candidates, at the moment..

Agreed

Calispursfan11
02-13-2012, 11:25 PM
I am hurt that no one has even whispered mention of TP. His numbers are not stratospheric but he has been the best player on a very good Spurs team this year. Minus Manu and TP, the Spurs would probably be sub .500 right now. With TP and no Manu they are still really good. That speaks volumes to TP's value.

Muser
02-13-2012, 11:28 PM
If LeBron doesn't get it then it would be a travesty. He's having one of the best seasons any player in history has ever had.

EmantheSpursFan
02-13-2012, 11:29 PM
Ive been advocating for TP these past few weeks now, after manu injury everyone on this board thought we'd be luck to just go .500 and instead Parker has carried this team to the second best record out west.

Killakobe81
02-13-2012, 11:30 PM
Has to be Lebron. durant has been good, but some games Westbrook has been better. Lebron has even a better team-mate but still is beasting.

Lebron's to lose ...

MI21
02-13-2012, 11:45 PM
LeBron with Splitter close behind.

Kewni Leonard
02-14-2012, 03:19 AM
I have no issue with Rose not winning the MVP this year because it was mathematically impossible for them to match the win total from last year but

James winning an individual award like the MVP with 2 All Stars on his roster is fucking LAUGHABLE.

If you have 3 All Stars on your team you should be winning 60+ games a season. NO EXCUSES

You're a moron. You just said Kobe should win it and he has 2 All-Stars on his team. Seriously, you're just bad with sports knowledge, or maybe even knowledge in general.

Kai
02-14-2012, 04:23 AM
LeBron
Durant
Then maybe CP3 considering the improvement the clips made.