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CubanSucks
02-17-2012, 10:19 PM
Coen bros:

Miller's Crossing
Barton Fink
Fargo
The Big Lebowski
O Brother, Where Art Thou
No Country For Old Men
True Grit

David Fincher:

Se7en
The Game
Fight Club
Zodiac
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
The Social Network
The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo


Christopher Nolan:

Memento
Batman Begins
The Prestige
The Dark Knight
Inception
*The Dark Knight Rises





didn't wanna list everything, just the highest rated and most recent

CubanSucks
02-17-2012, 10:26 PM
just saw The Prestige and holy hell is that a great movie! If The Dark Knight Rises turns out to be anywhere near as good as The Dark Knight then I would switch my pick to Nolan cause so far he hasn't made a dud. There's no doubt he's THE director/writer of this century

Bill_Brasky
02-17-2012, 11:19 PM
Coen bros and it's not even close.

DMC
02-17-2012, 11:48 PM
Coen by leaps and bounds. They make fantastic movies.

redzero
02-18-2012, 12:02 AM
I am a Nolan fanboy, but I like all of these directors a lot.

Nolan > Fincher > Coens

CubanSucks
02-18-2012, 12:28 AM
forget it, you're out of your element

I'm always open to learn new things

mingus
02-18-2012, 02:03 AM
Inception and Dark Knight are at the top of the list of all those movies. I would go with Nolan.

CubanSucks
02-18-2012, 02:33 AM
I tried putting another choice for "waiting for Dark Knight Rises" but I couldn't think of a way to make that statement less than 25 characters. That's what I would've chosen

SA210
02-18-2012, 03:56 AM
I'll go with Fincher, Se7ven is one of my favorite films of all time. Love Social Network, Fight Club and Benjamin Button.

Nolan a close 2nd.

leemajors
02-18-2012, 10:27 AM
Coen bros and it's not even close.

:tu

I am always blown away when I watch Blood Simple.

vander
02-18-2012, 10:40 PM
Fincher is solid, Coens are hit-or-miss, Nolan is the most overrated hack I am aware of :wakeup

lefty
02-18-2012, 10:58 PM
Nolan


Beacause TDKR is going to destroy everything else, and I mean destroy



Inception is a piece of shit though

SpursNextRomanEmpire
02-19-2012, 12:08 AM
Pretty tough to pick, all are some of my favorite directors. Right now I'd have to go with Fincher.

dirk4mvp
02-19-2012, 01:06 AM
Fincher is solid, Coens are hit-or-miss, Nolan is the most overrated hack I am aware of :wakeup

you would know overrated.

Eddie Murphy
02-19-2012, 11:34 AM
this just shows that there's no accounting for taste

coen bros are legendary
fincher has made 2 good movies
nolan has made 1 good batman movie that's not nearly as good as tim burton's batmans 1 and 2

:rolleyes :rolleyes

this faggot muthafuckra likes disney batman

redzero
02-19-2012, 11:36 AM
this just shows that there's no accounting for taste

coen bros are legendary
fincher has made 2 good movies
nolan has made 1 good batman movie that's not nearly as good as tim burton's batmans 1 and 2

:rolleyes :rolleyes

:lol at either of Burton's movies being anywhere near as good as Nolan's.

leemajors
02-19-2012, 11:50 AM
:lol at either of Burton's movies being anywhere near as good as Nolan's.

I liked the first Burton Batman as much as any of the Nolan ones. I was 12 when it came out, but i was still a pretty damn cool movie. The second was a bit overwrought though.

lefty
02-19-2012, 11:54 AM
this just shows that there's no accounting for taste

coen bros are legendary
fincher has made 2 good movies
nolan has made 1 good batman movie that's not nearly as good as tim burton's batmans 1 and 2

:rolleyes :rolleyes

Both BB and TDK shit on Burton's gay batmans

Cant_Be_Faded
02-19-2012, 11:56 AM
I still can't figure out why America jacks off to the dark night. That movie licked taint, and if you watched that shit and enjoyed that stupid husky voice Bale kept using, chances are your taste in movies suck. For that reason alone you can't pick Nolan. Give me Coen brothers

thispego
02-19-2012, 11:57 AM
Nolan thinks he has to make his movies 3 1/2 hours long to be good :lol. Coen bros'll get you INnOUT in 1.5-2 hours and be the better movie.

Fincher all I have seen is fight club and 7 and they are good. Fight club really good

redzero
02-19-2012, 11:57 AM
I liked it when I was young, too, but I think people have nostalgia goggles on when they talk about it. It's a good movie, but that's it. Burton got the look of Gotham down, but the characters are a different matter.

thispego
02-19-2012, 11:59 AM
crofl emo youth teens mixing up tim burton's batman 1 and 2 with the batman beyond the animated cartoon

:lmao

redzero
02-19-2012, 12:03 PM
:lol at Nolan taking Burton's "dark Batman" idea.
:lol thinking that Burton came up with the "dark Batman shtick" in the first place
:lol not realizing that both Nolan movies are influenced more by comics like Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, The Long Halloween, etc. more than they are by Burton's movies
:lol attention span is so short that you can't enjoy a two-and-half hour movie

Damn, the Mookie Krew does have shitty taste.

thisnarco
02-19-2012, 12:03 PM
mookie crew movie marathon I saidddddddddddddddddddddd! lets watch all tim burton and paul verhoeven movies and touch each other

thispego
02-19-2012, 12:09 PM
2.5 hours :lol give me one Nolan movie mentioned in this thread that is 150 minutes or less

thispego
02-19-2012, 12:10 PM
mookie crew movie marathon I saidddddddddddddddddddddd! lets watch all tim burton and paul verhoeven movies and touch each other

:lmao

redzero
02-19-2012, 12:12 PM
Memento, The Prestige, Batman Begins, and Inception (barely) are all under 150 minutes. Memento is under two hours.

thisnarco
02-19-2012, 12:20 PM
2.5 hours :lol give me one Nolan movie mentioned in this thread that is 150 minutes or less


Memento, The Prestige, Batman Begins, and Inception (barely) are all under 150 minutes. Memento is under two hours.

croflcroflcrofl

mike mckay don't wanna go to da sidelines and talk to the olllllllll ball coach efter det one!

leemajors
02-19-2012, 12:22 PM
The best Batman move is Mask of the Phantasm.

thispego
02-19-2012, 12:23 PM
hmmm fascinating.

I wonder why they feel 4 hours long? hmmm

redzero
02-19-2012, 12:37 PM
hmmm fascinating.

I wonder why they feel 4 hours long? hmmm

Because every time somebody is killed in them, there aren't witty one-liners like "Consider that a divorce!" or "SCREW YOU!" or "Good night, sweet prince."

thispego
02-19-2012, 12:47 PM
:rolleyes

no

Muser
02-19-2012, 12:55 PM
I feel kinda sorry for Nolan with TDKR, people are expecting a masterpiece.

thisnarco
02-19-2012, 01:02 PM
crofl billy dee williams as harvey dent...this is Batman, not Dolemite

also the 2nd batman peaked in the beginning when walken threw pfieffer out the window, then the movie nosedived with her after det.

Cant_Be_Faded
02-19-2012, 02:01 PM
The prestige was bad ass, but the dark knight is a fucking joke

Ron Popeil
02-19-2012, 02:24 PM
One time, I even called him......ASSHOLE.

redzero
02-19-2012, 02:31 PM
:lol not realizing the dates that comic book series came out because they didn't influence tim burton's movies at all

Maybe, since he didn't actually read the comics in the first place.


:lol not recognizing the difference between campy batman videos that came out before/after tim burton's movies

Again, The Dark Knight Returns and Year One had far more influence on Nolan's movies than Burton's films. Burton did not at all come up with a darker interpretation of Batman. Just because he was the first one to do it in a major motion picture doesn't mean that he came up with the idea or that Nolan copied him.

You really don't know what you are talking about.

redzero
02-19-2012, 04:27 PM
That doesn't make sense. Anybody who thinks that Tim fucking Burton is the reason why Batman is portrayed in a more serious tone in contemporary media doesn't know anything.

Proxy
02-19-2012, 05:47 PM
That doesn't make sense. Anybody who thinks that Tim fucking Burton is the reason why Batman is portrayed in a more serious tone in contemporary media doesn't know anything.

Comics were doing it already... I'm not sure the exact date of transition, but Frank Miller did Dark Knight Returns in 86 and Burton came out with Batman in 89... so, like always, Burton takes someone else's idea and tries to take credit. Dude is a joke, tbh.

leemajors
02-19-2012, 05:51 PM
Frank Miller invents anti-hero vigilante!

leemajors
02-19-2012, 05:52 PM
Alan Moore came up with the Guy Fawkes mask!

Proxy
02-19-2012, 06:09 PM
I would say Coen bros>Fincher>Nolan

Proxy
02-19-2012, 06:10 PM
Alan Moore came up with the Guy Fawkes mask!

Alan Moore is a scary, weird thing. I hate him as a person... but Frank Miller is nothing in comparison.

IronMaxipad
02-19-2012, 11:51 PM
Coen Bros > Fincher > Nolan

monosylab1k
02-20-2012, 03:26 AM
The prestige was bad ass, but the dark knight is a fucking joke

:lol pretty boilerplate mookie crew to love Nolan's worst movie and hate his most popular.

CubanSucks
02-20-2012, 03:49 AM
:lol pretty boilerplate mookie crew to love Nolan's worst movie and hate his most popular.

how the hell was The Prestige bad? That movie's insane

CubanSucks
02-20-2012, 03:52 AM
I'm completely shocked lefty hasn't voted. He was the first person that came to mind when I thought of Nolan

monosylab1k
02-20-2012, 12:05 PM
how the hell was The Prestige bad? That movie's insane

I didn't say it was bad, you mongoloid, I said it was Nolan's worst movie. Which it is by a longshot. The Prestige was like a really good M. Night Shyamalan movie, which is to say it's average at best.

monosylab1k
02-20-2012, 12:07 PM
Christopher Nolan:

Memento
Batman Begins
The Prestige
The Dark Knight
Inception
*The Dark Knight Rises

btw dumbass you forgot Insomnia which is right there with Nolan's best work.

leemajors
02-20-2012, 12:07 PM
I didn't say it was bad, you mongoloid, I said it was Nolan's worst movie. Which it is by a longshot. The Prestige was like a really good M. Night Shyamalan movie, which is to say it's average at best.

I liked it better than Memento.

monosylab1k
02-20-2012, 12:08 PM
I liked it better than Memento.

Memento is actually the one movie of his I have yet to see.

leemajors
02-20-2012, 12:08 PM
btw dumbass you forgot Insomnia which is right there with Nolan's best work.

Isn't the original better?

Edit: I haven't seen Nolan's version.

monosylab1k
02-20-2012, 12:11 PM
Isn't the original better?

Edit: I haven't seen Nolan's version.

:lol i haven't seen the original, I just know Nolan's version is great. I didn't loathe Al Pacino every second he was on camera, so he must have done something right. he took two of the worst over the top overactors in movie history (Pacino and Robin Williams) and got great performances out of them.

redzero
02-20-2012, 12:14 PM
Memento is actually the one movie of his I have yet to see.

Memento is top three for me along with Inception and The Dark Knight. You should definitely see it.

CubanSucks
02-20-2012, 03:28 PM
I didn't say it was bad, you mongoloid, I said it was Nolan's worst movie. Which it is by a longshot. The Prestige was like a really good M. Night Shyamalan movie, which is to say it's average at best.


btw dumbass you forgot Insomnia which is right there with Nolan's best work.

:lmao I was just about to use Insomnia as Nolan's worst, MONGOLOID!!!

The Prestige: 76% on RT with 90% from the audience, 8.4 on IMDB

Insomnia: 92% on RT with 67% from the audience, 7.2 on IMDB

unless you're a critic it looks like you're in the minority

Proxy
02-20-2012, 04:47 PM
so tim burton did/didn't look at any of the comics?

i so confused

Batman went dark before Burton's movie came out.

redzero
02-21-2012, 11:59 AM
Well, since this thread is about three directors, I'll ask this question: Se7en or Fight Club? I think Fight Club is better.

DeadlyDynasty
02-21-2012, 12:02 PM
Fight Club. Although Se7en still has one of the most disturbing scenes ever (Sloth).

redzero
02-21-2012, 12:04 PM
The cocksucker is still alive!

SpursNextRomanEmpire
02-21-2012, 12:55 PM
:lmao I was just about to use Insomnia as Nolan's worst

You're wrong there. Insomnia is great, but I also love The Prestige as well. Both great movies tbh.

SpursNextRomanEmpire
02-21-2012, 12:55 PM
Well, since this thread is about three directors, I'll ask this question: Se7en or Fight Club? I think Fight Club is better.

Fight Club. That movies "cool" factor is off the charts.

leemajors
02-21-2012, 02:08 PM
I thought Fight Club was stupid, but I think Palahniuk is a hack anyway.

CubanSucks
02-21-2012, 03:35 PM
Well, since this thread is about three directors, I'll ask this question: Se7en or Fight Club? I think Fight Club is better.

I was gonna ask what's everyone's favorite movie out of all 3 of their's combined was. Mine would be Fight Club. Unfortunately it comes on tv like once a week on at least 3 different channels so I've pretty much burned myself out on it cause I can never bring myself to change the channel

stretch
02-21-2012, 04:47 PM
I was gonna ask what's everyone's favorite movie out of all 3 of their's combined was. Mine would be Fight Club. Unfortunately it comes on tv like once a week on at least 3 different channels so I've pretty much burned myself out on it cause I can never bring myself to change the channel

IMO - Fight Club is the most fun movie, Memento is the most creative, and The Social Network is the most artistic (yeah that sounds gay but you know what I mean)

cheguevara
02-21-2012, 04:53 PM
Coen bros and it's not even close.

cheguevara
02-21-2012, 04:54 PM
I thought Fight Club was stupid, but I think Palahniuk is a hack anyway.

it was both cool and stupid

redzero
02-22-2012, 12:34 AM
1. The Dark Knight
2. Inception
3. Fight Club
4. Memento
5. Se7en
6. The Big Lebowski
7. No Country For Old Men
8. The Prestige
9. Batman Begins
10. Fargo

Manny Pacquiao
02-22-2012, 12:36 AM
1. The dark knight
2. Inception
3. Fight club
4. Memento
5. Se7en
6. The big lebowski
7. No country for old men
8. The prestige
9. Batman begins
10. Fargo

lol?

redzero
02-22-2012, 12:59 AM
What, did I spell it wrong?

TE
02-22-2012, 01:20 AM
1. The Dark Knight
2. Inception
3. Fight Club
4. Memento
5. Se7en
6. The Big Lebowski
7. No Country For Old Men
8. The Prestige
9. Batman Begins
10. Fargo

That's very unhipsterish of you. :lol

midnightpulp
02-22-2012, 05:16 AM
I feel kinda sorry for Nolan with TDKR, people are expecting a masterpiece.

In my mind, "comic book movie" and "masterpiece" are mutually exclusive concepts. Nolan is a great director, but he's more Steven Spielberg than Ingmar Bergman, which is a compliment, mind you. Nolan makes mass-market, popcorn films in a highly artistic way (like Spielberg). He's indeed the best blockbuster director working today, and I guess you can argue of the new century, but his films (for me personally) lack the substance to be considered masterpieces. And his style (which includes direction, writing, editing, etc) isn't strong and unique enough to stand on its own as the main artistic component where you can throw substance out the door and declare the film a masterpiece simply based on his form (like Tarantino's Pulp Fiction or Takeshi Miike's work, for example).

redzero
02-22-2012, 05:33 AM
I din't think the source material for a film should preclude it from being called a masterpiece, or anything else for that matter.

midnightpulp
02-22-2012, 05:52 AM
I din't think the source material for a film should preclude it from being called a masterpiece, or anything else for that matter.

At the end of the day it's a guy in a bat suit punching bad guys in the face and squaring off with a lunatic who paints his face like a clown. Not exactly the kind of content that is favorable to producing great art. Entertaining as hell? Yes. High cool factor? Yes. Would I rather watch it than Andrei Rublev? Probably. A "masterpiece" of the action genre? Definitely. A masterpiece of film as a whole? No. And this is coming from someone who thinks "low brow" art can stand alongside the high brow on equal ground. I just don't think Nolan succeeded in doing that with The Dark Knight, as Tarantino did with Pulp Fiction, Sergio Leone did with his stylized Westerns, etc.

redzero
02-22-2012, 06:07 AM
You can oversimplify lots of movies into that.

The Big Lebowski is only about cartoonishly idiotic bowling buddies who dick around and try to solve a non-mystery.
Pulp Fiction is about referencing other films more than anything (as are most of Tarantino's works).

Interesting that you should mention spaghetti westerns, because Leone's movies were not even respected that much by critics because their genre wasn't seen as a serious one. Hindsight being what it is, people now put The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly up there with The Godfather, Citizen Kane, etc. as one of the better movies of all time.

I personally don't care either way. If a director makes a great film, I don't care if one of the characters is wearing clown make-up, or that nothing actually happens plot-wise.

midnightpulp
02-22-2012, 06:27 AM
You can oversimplify lots of movies into that.

The Big Lebowski is only about cartoonishly idiotic bowling buddies who dick around and try to solve a non-mystery.
Pulp Fiction is about referencing other films more than anything (as are most of Tarantino's works).

Interesting that you should mention spaghetti westerns, because Leone's movies were not even respected that much by critics because their genre wasn't seen as a serious one. Hindsight being what it is, people now put The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly up there with The Godfather, Citizen Kane, etc. as one of the better movies of all time.

I personally don't care either way. If a director makes a great film, I don't care if one of the characters is wearing clown make-up, or that nothing actually happens plot-wise.

And I do think The Dark Knight is a great film. I actually never said otherwise. I just don't think it's one of the best films of all-time, on the level of Citizen Kane, The Godfather, Taxi Driver, and the countless foreign masterpieces, like so many claim.

And what differentiates "substance-less" films that also happen to be all-time great films, like Pulp Fiction and The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly, is that their style and feel are unmistakably unique, their respective directors putting something of their identity into either film. Whereas if you told me Spielberg, Zack Snyder, or Sam Raimi directed The Dark Knight, I'd probably believe you. There's really nothing that stands out enough for me about The Dark Knight to put up there with cinema's all-time best; and Ledger's performance failed to captivate me to the degree like it did many others.

leemajors
02-22-2012, 07:02 AM
You can oversimplify lots of movies into that.

The Big Lebowski is only about cartoonishly idiotic bowling buddies who dick around and try to solve a non-mystery.
Pulp Fiction is about referencing other films more than anything (as are most of Tarantino's works).

Interesting that you should mention spaghetti westerns, because Leone's movies were not even respected that much by critics because their genre wasn't seen as a serious one. Hindsight being what it is, people now put The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly up there with The Godfather, Citizen Kane, etc. as one of the better movies of all time.

I personally don't care either way. If a director makes a great film, I don't care if one of the characters is wearing clown make-up, or that nothing actually happens plot-wise.

The Big Lebowski is a loose adaptation of a novel.

redzero
02-22-2012, 07:08 AM
The Big Lebowski is a loose adaptation of a novel.

...okay.

leemajors
02-22-2012, 07:43 AM
...okay.

Just saying they had a very interesting take on Philip Marlowe that varied greatly from his previous incarnations as Humphrey Bogart and Robert Mitchum.

CubanSucks
02-22-2012, 03:12 PM
Citizen Kane, The Godfather, Taxi Driver, and the countless foreign masterpieces, like so many claim.

Citizen Kane: at the end of the day it's just an overzealous asshole who builds a media empire

Taxi Driver: at the end of the day it's just a Vietnam Vet who slowly loses his mind and takes it out on a pimp

The Godfather: at the end of the day it's just an aging gangster and his reluctant son

DesignatedT
02-22-2012, 05:02 PM
Coen

redzero
02-22-2012, 05:32 PM
this might be the most unintentionally funny exchange of all time

it's like 2 guys sniffing the rarefied area between their own hindquarters

Almost as funny as that one time one mouth breather claimed that Tim Burton is the reason that Batman is portrayed darker and more seriously in movies.

cantthinkofanything
02-22-2012, 05:37 PM
And I do think The Dark Knight is a great film. I actually never said otherwise. I just don't think it's one of the best films of all-time, on the level of Citizen Kane, The Godfather, Taxi Driver, and the countless foreign masterpieces, like so many claim.

And what differentiates "substance-less" films that also happen to be all-time great films, like Pulp Fiction and The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly, is that their style and feel are unmistakably unique, their respective directors putting something of their identity into either film. Whereas if you told me Spielberg, Zack Snyder, or Sam Raimi directed The Dark Knight, I'd probably believe you. There's really nothing that stands out enough for me about The Dark Knight to put up there with cinema's all-time best; and Ledger's performance failed to captivate me to the degree like it did many others.

It's fucking Batman. Don't you think it was smart of Nolan to direct it in such a way where you weren't saying, "wow...definitely Nolan".

mojorizen7
02-22-2012, 09:04 PM
I still can't figure out why America jacks off to the dark night. That movie licked taint, and if you watched that shit and enjoyed that stupid husky voice Bale kept using, chances are your taste in movies suck. For that reason alone you can't pick Nolan. Give me Coen brothers
+1 on TDK. Take out Ledgers performance and what do you really have left?

Batman Begins was solid IMO.
Inception was a nice looking,nice sounding interesting idea but in the end it was a master clusterfuck. It was like doing Algebra homework while on acid.

Memento was very good,but just a well crafted gimmick.

I went with the Cohen's,but Fincher is right there.

My Cohen Bros gems
Blood Simple
Raising Arizona
Fargo
Lebowski
No Country

As for Fincher we know about his stud resume...but Alien3(the assembly cut) is very underrated IMO.

Landon Donofag
02-23-2012, 01:49 AM
Dark Knight is overrated as fuck. LOL at anyone putting it number 1.

redzero
02-23-2012, 02:25 AM
+1 on TDK. Take out Ledgers performance and what do you really have left?

A completely different movie because the Joker appearance was the entire point.

midnightpulp
02-23-2012, 02:31 AM
Citizen Kane: at the end of the day it's just an overzealous asshole who builds a media empire

Taxi Driver: at the end of the day it's just a Vietnam Vet who slowly loses his mind and takes it out on a pimp

The Godfather: at the end of the day it's just an aging gangster and his reluctant son

And those 3 premises have much more potential to become a great story/film than a story/film centered around a comic book character.

redzero
02-23-2012, 02:35 AM
And those 3 premises have much more potential to become a great story/film than a story/film centered around a comic book character.

Do you mean a superhero or any comic book character, no matter what kind of comic it is?

midnightpulp
02-23-2012, 02:39 AM
It's fucking Batman. Don't you think it was smart of Nolan to direct it in such a way where you weren't saying, "wow...definitely Nolan".

Burton made sure to leave none of his signature style out in his Batman (and no, I'm not suggesting his Batman is superior. The script is fairly weak. As if if the writers focused primarily on making Nicholson's Joker as compelling and entertaining as possible, but in doing so, forget to develop the other characters beyond the two dimensional).

midnightpulp
02-23-2012, 02:45 AM
Do you mean a superhero or any comic book character, no matter what kind of comic it is?

Superheroes, since I know there's many mature comics and graphic novels out there that could no doubt become a masterpiece film in the hands of the right people. I'm not saying there isn't mature content in superhero stories, but fundamentally, they're stories made to appeal to kids/adolescents.

redzero
02-23-2012, 02:13 PM
:lol yeah, since Tim Burton was first to do it in a movie, it logically follows that everybody else who does it must be copying him.

Nolan definitely wasn't using the comics as a reference; he was using Burton's films, because Burton invented the modern Batman.